Anthony Edwards #3 in 2020 rankings, a 6'4 SG said KU is one of 5 schools showing the most interest in him right now. Duke, Kentucky, UNC, Michigan St the others. Heavy weight battle this one looks
5 Star SG Jaden Springer hears from KU. Springer attends IMG. Grew up in NC, a UNC fan. Seems like a tough pull from that area
On his recruitment by KU:
“Really they just talked to my coach. They’d been texting me, they’d been talking to me for a while and just decided to offer me. ... For a while they’ve been sending me texts. I talked to Bill Self one time, but other than that I’ve just been getting texts from assistant coaches.”
On KU's coaching staff:
“They’ve got a great coaching staff. Bill Self is one of the best coaches in college basketball. So they’ve got all the best coaches in college.”
Tennessee, Maryland, Auburn and Kansas as schools that, as of Late August, were reaching out almost daily. He also noted that last year he took visits to UNC, Kentucky, Georgetown, Maryland, Tennessee and Auburn — and that he expects to make plans for a KU visit soon.
BeddieKU23 said:
Anthony Edwards #3 in 2020 rankings, a 6'4 SG said KU is one of 5 schools showing the most interest in him right now. Duke, Kentucky, UNC, Michigan St the others. Heavy weight battle this one looks
Ya- - - - can't get much heavier then that. - Sounds like this one will be a war from start to finish. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Others are involved as well but Edwards seems like the type that's going to a proven Elite school
Jaemyn Brakefield, a power forward from Huntington Prep #20 ranked player. Townsend in deep with him.
Coach Townsend, I’ve got a good relationship with him. He talks to me, just tells me keep working, he’s watching," Brakefield said. "[I like] that he cares so much for the players. He's not going to call you a pro. He's going to push you to want to be better."
BeddieKU23 said:
Others are involved as well but Edwards seems like the type that's going to a proven Elite school
Sounds like he will pretty much have his pick of the litter - pardon the expression. - - Good to see that we are in the hunt at the early stage. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Some other names to keep an eye on
Ty Berry
Daishen Nix
Bryce Thompson
Julian Strawther
Not sure if KU will be in the Greg Brown sweepstakes but he is really good.
A couple other local players that KU may have an eye on:
KT Raimey, 6-4 (Olathe East), plays on the same AAU team as Ty Berry. He's a combo guard, though he plays off the ball quite a bit now.
Xavier Bell, 6-4 (Andover Central), another combo guard that, opposite from Raimey, has been playing on the ball more.
Markell Hood, 6-6 (Blue Valley Northwest), wing. He's a strong, physical player. Don't know if he's P5 yet, but he could be something like Agbaji, but likely bigger by the time he graduates.
Jonathan Jackson, 6-4 (Maranatha), guard. He's good, but its tough to evaluate him during the HS season because he plays for a small class school (Maranatha is a 2A school).
O'mar Stanley, 6-8 (Blue Valley West), PF. The lone elite level big man in Kansas in the 2020 class.
It's a shame that Berry, Bell, Raimey and Jackson all play in different classes and likely won't face off.
@justanotherfan not sure how many of those guys are KU level. Then again if you had asked me about Braun before his JR season I would have said no way.
I think Raimey could be a WSU, Tulsa etc... level guy.
Xavier Bell I haven't seen play I don't think. Is he on an aau team?
Jonathan Jackson you would have to think ends up at UNC if they want him. At this point, he almost feels like a walk-on for UNC or KU though.
O’mar Stanley looks intriguing.
@justanotherfan I can't believe Maranatha is even open still...
Markell Hood has a nice stroke.
What’s the deal with the big kid at Sunrise? Is he Nike bound ...?
Are you talking about N'Faly Dante? He is a top 10 2020 target. He has offers from KU, Kentucky, Oklahoma State, LSU, Kentucky, Oregon and St. John. He is 6'-11" with a ridiculous 7'-5" wing span and he is very close to Cheik Diallo whom he calls my brother. LSU appears to be in the lead with Kentucky also in the run, He plays for MoKan Elite which in the past has been very hostile to KU but recently KU has signed Agbaji and Braun that play for them.
He seems to be SEC bound.
I would think that KU will be throwing punches in that fight. A lot depends on our situation though. If we have Big Dave still, I think it will probably be hard to land him or any other OAD type of C prospect.
If Will Wade keeps landing guys like he has been, and I'd say he becomes a potential Blue Blood short list candidate. He has to show he can win at LSU still, but he is doing good things.
LSU is a sleeper to win SEC this season. They potentially have as good of a starting lineup as anyone.
Sleeper for second perhaps. Kentucky is running away with that league.
BShark said:
Sleeper for second perhaps. Kentucky is running away with that league.
Tennessee called and said...wait a minute...:smile:
We will see. I think UK has the best roster in the country.
I don't know what the difference between this season's UK team is and last seasons? And they finished tied for 4th, and easily could have been 5th if Vandy didn't piss away a game that was in the bag.
BShark said:
@justanotherfan not sure how many of those guys are KU level. Then again if you had asked me about Braun before his JR season I would have said no way.
I think Raimey could be a WSU, Tulsa etc... level guy.
Xavier Bell I haven't seen play I don't think. Is he on an aau team?
Jonathan Jackson you would have to think ends up at UNC if they want him. At this point, he almost feels like a walk-on for UNC or KU though.
O’mar Stanley looks intriguing.
If you had asked me about Agbaji before his senior seasons, I would not have put him at KU. I was surprised that Braun picked KU as well.
Bell plays for the team Perry Ellis used to play for I believe. They aren't as strong as some of the KC area teams, so he doesn't get as much exposure on the circuit.
Jackson probably goes to UNC, but he could explode. He's got some talent and is interesting to me.
I agree completely on Stanley. Interesting athlete. You can't ignore athletes like that.
Raimey is interesting in that he is talented, but doesn't get the right type of exposure in his HS system in my opinion.
The challenge is seeing these guys against legit talent, but not when teams are throwing gimmicky things at them that makes them alter their games (and makes it hard to evaluate them).
@justanotherfan I agree that KS HS basketball is not a good indicator at all. Which can definitely make evaluation more difficult and why it was nice to see Braun do well in AAU.
@BShark Braun could be one of those 4 year treasures we get every once in a while. Really tall...can really shoot, and handles the ball a lot better than most guys his height. Not point guard good, but good enough. Defense is probably a liability at this point, but could fill a BG role on the team well.
@justanotherfan Fair enough. Greene's poor attitude didn't help him either.
I don't know that I can think of a player in KU history to compare Braun to. Not like I'm calling him a freak or anything. He is just strangely athletic, where he fits somewhere in the middle of most KU recruits. He doesn't have a crazy vertical. But he still has hops. He shoots it great. His ballhandling is as good as any non PG recruit we've ever had here. Significantly better than Garrett's, imo. His vision is phenomenal.
To me, if he grows to 6'8, he is a legit NBA prospect and will end up being the steal of this class. If he stays at 6'5, who knows. He could end up being just a 4-year practice body, a role player like Tyrel Reed, or he could become the next Andy Rautins. But I do like his upside, which is about all you can ask from a guy ranked 100+ and taking up your 13th scholarship, knowing he is unlikely to see the floor a year from now.
I can't think of a comp either. Maybe Conner Teahan with better shooting and athleticism.
Andrew White?
@Crimsonorblue22 :+1:
2020 looks like it will be a battle for top talent. At this point I don't think KU has any advantage with anyone. It may be interesting to see if KU can get Jr's to take visits with that rule change.
BeddieKU23 said:
2020 looks like it will be a battle for top talent. At this point I don't think KU has any advantage with anyone. It may be interesting to see if KU can get Jr's to take visits with that rule change.
Julian Strawther and Bryce Thompson. Ty Berry assuming they get around to offering him which I really hope they do.
Zach Harvey reclassified for 2020, leaving the option open for 2019, maybe trying to put more distance from his legal issues? KU still appears to be the leader.
KU isn't involved in his recruitment
@BeddieKU23 Yeah, a lot depends on how many scholarships will be available. 19 is looking like a big class without any oad guards/wings. Dotson, Moore, Garrett, KJ, Agbaji and Braun could all theoretically still be around and that would be a salty really experienced group at that point (JR, RS SR, SR, 6th year SR, JR, SO). That doesn't even factor in McBride if he ends up in Lawrence.
I understand his legal issues had a bearing on his recruitment for 2019; however, people have short memories, with another year gone and if he shots up in the rankings, KU is back in play.
BeddieKU23 said:
KU isn't involved in his recruitment
Correct. Things change though and another year of development and distancing the legal case could get KU back into the picture.
I would take Strawther in a heartbeat over Harvey. Situations aside Strawther is just better.
BeddieKU23 said:
I would take Strawther in a heartbeat over Harvey. Situations aside Strawther is just better.
It's not even a little bit close.
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
I would take Strawther in a heartbeat over Harvey. Situations aside Strawther is just better.
It's not even a little bit close.
Strawther is criminally under-ranked. Would have thought that would have been corrected after he went toe to toe with Jalen Green this summer
He's a top 10 type talent. Effortless scorer and gets after it on the glass too.
2020 class has crazy perimeter talent and depth
BShark said:
He's a top 10 type talent. Effortless scorer and gets after it on the glass too.
Total package at the wing. 6'7, already has a good frame. Good athleticism, great shooter especially off catch and shoot. Can handle the ball. Definitely a top 10 talent
Good bigs in 20 are going to be hard to come by if this class keeps trending the way it is. Really important KU doesn't miss in 19 here
The way things are moving, by 2020 the top players might be headed to the NBA and the battle will be for the lower ranked players.
BeddieKU23 said:
Good bigs in 20 are going to be hard to come by if this class keeps trending the way it is. Really important KU doesn't miss in 19 here
Yep. Part of why I wouldn't hate Mitch taking a RS. He could be much more valuable as a 5th year SR. Put him with JR McCormack, SO JRE and some Lawsons and that's prettttty okay.
BeddieKU23 said:
KU isn't involved in his recruitment
Not for this year their not. - -I agree though for sure , it wouldn't surprise me one bit if they don't reopen his recruitment at all. - This allows this legal thing to be over with - -put things behind and that's EVEN if they do anything still seems pretty minor typical teenage kid making a mistake. - -Let him do his whatever for the mistake and then move on. - - -I fully expect them to recruit Zach again
JayHawkFanToo said:
I understand his legal issues had a bearing on his recruitment for 2019; however, people have short memories, with another year gone and if he shots up in the rankings, KU is back in play.
Exactly, from my understanding -- yes he was wrong - - - and he will have to suffer whatever if found guilty. I don't think there will be any Major come from it - -could be some probation - -not long though and like you say 2020 rolls and round and I think you can take it to the bank KU will be right there with Zach - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Even if his legal issues were non-existent I don't think KU would have taken him. Could be wrong here though
BeddieKU23 said:
Even if his legal issues were non-existent I don't think KU would have taken him. Could be wrong here though
ehhh I don't know , I guess it just depends how things were to play out , he is as good as Braun - -quicker then Braun - maybe not the shooter of Braun I couldn't swear on it one way or another. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I'm just going off my gut here. It seemed things were trending away with Harvey before his legal issues became known to the public. I'm not convinced he developed to the point KU was going to keep interest. Again just my own personal opinion here.
With the amount of talent in the 2020 class especially at the perimeter positions I would be surprised if Harvey was in the cards.
@BeddieKU23 I think you're probably right. Not like his door is being beaten down by blue bloods. He is a good program guy for someone. But maybe just not quite our level.
I imagine that a lot of the bigger programs lost interest because in the current environment any allegation of sexual misconduct is the kiss of death. He is now ranked #29 by Rivals for 2020 and between that and 40 in the other rankings except ESPN. He is doing a prep year in California and if he gets to the top 20 there will be interest by elite programs.
Dante and all of Sunrise will be in for late night.
Such a tease.
@JayHawkFanToo I think it was more than an allegation, was on their phones. Evidence!
I was referring to allegations in general that now are enough to cause programs to back off from prospects even if they prove later not to be true. In this particular case we know he pleaded guilty to a lesser offense.
I'm surprised that the Staff isn't pushing for Junior official visit's with the new rule changes in place.
Duke is hosting 3 elite Junior's over the next two weeks. Jeremy Roach, Jalen Johnson & BJ Boston.
Seems like a leg up already on the competition
@BeddieKU23 what is the new rule? Do they get to take another one their senior year?
Kcmatt7 said:
@BeddieKU23 what is the new rule? Do they get to take another one their senior year?
Juniors can take official visits and still take five more as Seniors. I believe the total is now 15 overall.
Duke for example has 3 Junior five star recruits coming in this month. At least two of them are considered Duke leans at this time.
Honestly, feels like a missed opportunity with the new rules. There's plenty of prospects interested in KU, I hope we see if any want to take an early visit
@BeddieKU23 Then yea, you're right. We need to start bringing in as many guys as we can then. I'm sure you'll see some. Seems like Self may be trying to lock down these early guys first. Then he can probably focus on Hurt and 2020 guys.
I mean we have Zeke, JRE and Stanley all deciding by the end of November. So I'm glad he is making them the priority.
I would say that getting a bunch of Juniors in for a game like Nova would be dope. Bring in like 5 together. Definitely make it all about the hype and atmosphere this visit. And then basketball the next one.
Kcmatt7 said:
I mean we have Zeke, JRE and Stanley all deciding by the end of November. So I'm glad he is making them the priority.
I would say that getting a bunch of Juniors in for a game like Nova would be dope. Bring in like 5 together. Definitely make it all about the hype and atmosphere this visit. And then basketball the next one.
I agree the current class is more important and you run the risk of planning too far ahead without knowing what you can sell.
Duke is a bit different from even KU in how they recruit/build their roster. Just pointing out that an elite school such as KU can definitely get younger kids on officials. Definitely could have been the case for Bryce Thompson who's got ties to the program and visited for Late Night.
In a recent article on Rivals Greg Brown said KU is among the 5 schools watching his games the most along with UK, Texas, A&M and UCLA.
Did UVs to UT and A&M. Not taking recruiting too seriously yet. Focusing on improving as a player. Doesn't plan to do any JR OVs.
I really hope KU is in this one. Along with Cade Cunningham and Julian Strawther this kid is one of my absolute favorite players in the loaded 2020 class.
BShark said:
In a recent article on Rivals Greg Brown said KU is among the 5 schools watching his games the most along with UK, Texas, A&M and UCLA.
Did UVs to UT and A&M. Not taking recruiting too seriously yet. Focusing on improving as a player. Doesn't plan to do any JR OVs.
I really hope KU is in this one. Along with Cade Cunningham and Julian Strawther this kid is one of my absolute favorite players in the loaded 2020 class.
If recent history continues with Baker in the 19 class Brown is basically Shaka's right?
I know Brown has had interest in KU for a while but we seem to lose these battles to the home town school.
Would be a great addition next year, POGO STICKS central
KU sent out an offer to 2021 F/C Michael Foster (complete stud, top 5 talent) and 2022 Wing Colin Smith.
Well read where w have a 2021 pg from Evansville Indiana going to be un-ofically visiting for the game tonight. - - -Khristian Lander is 5'11 - -& 150 - -pretty dang small but he is going to visit tonight
Is ranked # 30 in the Nation right now and currently has offers from:
Illinois -- -Indiana - - - Iowa - -& Purdue - - just a little FYI - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
jayballer73 said:
Well read where w have a 2021 pg from Evansville Indiana going to be un-ofically visiting for the game tonight. - - -Khristian Lander is 5'11 - -& 150 - -pretty dang small but he is going to visit tonight
Is ranked # 30 in the Nation right now and currently has offers from:
Illinois -- -Indiana - - - Iowa - -& Purdue - - just a little FYI - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
6'1''. Big talent. Hard to see Indiana letting him get away but hey he has to be paying his own way for this KU visit and an exhibition no less so surely he has some interest in KU.
Visiting with his coach.
@jayballer73 We could throw him into a lineup with McBride, Charlie, and Dotson. Garrett could be our center. We'd dub em the Mighty Mites...
BShark said:
jayballer73 said:
Well read where w have a 2021 pg from Evansville Indiana going to be un-ofically visiting for the game tonight. - - -Khristian Lander is 5'11 - -& 150 - -pretty dang small but he is going to visit tonight
Is ranked # 30 in the Nation right now and currently has offers from:
Illinois -- -Indiana - - - Iowa - -& Purdue - - just a little FYI - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
6'1''. Big talent. Hard to see Indiana letting him get away but hey he has to be paying his own way for this KU visit and an exhibition no less so surely he has some interest in KU.
ya agree with you at this point. - -He is coming on an un-official , so yep it's his dime and like you said an exhibition no less. -- You would have to think cause of that - he has to have some moderate interest anyways
KUSTEVE said:
@jayballer73 We could throw him into a lineup with McBride, Charlie, and Dotson. Garrett could be our center. We'd dub em the Mighty Mites...
lmao - - we would kill opponents on the boards lol
That lineup would eat Dok alive. He really doens’t know how to play against smaller, quicker players.
@Crimsonorblue22 That’s where Silvio would be nice.
Lander at the game.
KHRISTIAN LANDER@KHRISTIANLANDER 1H
BLESSED TO RECEIVE AN OFFER FROM UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS THINK YOU TO BILL SELF AND STAFF
Nice. Not surprised, kid can ball.
Lately there’s been some concern in Adidas and their programs that Nike has used the trial to get in deeper with some guys. UK and Oregon are shaping up to have monster classes.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Lately there’s been some concern in Adidas and their programs that Nike has used the trial to get in deeper with some guys. UK and Oregon are shaping up to have monster classes.
Not surprised, but barf.
If true Nike opened the door for the FBI to drop the hammer. Surely someone slipped up along the way. That’s making the major assumption that the FBI cares about corruption across NCAA basketball and not just smearing ADIDAS.
Gross. And we are going to end up signing with them for 12 years.
Yeah hopefully Nike gets a bunch of bad pub this spring.
BShark said:
Yeah hopefully Nike gets a bunch of bad pub this spring.
Wishful thinking right? They will hush it all
FarmerJayhawk said:
Lately there’s been some concern in Adidas and their programs that Nike has used the trial to get in deeper with some guys. UK and Oregon are shaping up to have monster classes.
if I were Oregon people - -I wouldn't be thumping that chest to hard yet. - They are FAR from being clear in this mess either
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Lately there’s been some concern in Adidas and their programs that Nike has used the trial to get in deeper with some guys. UK and Oregon are shaping up to have monster classes.
if I were Oregon people - -I wouldn't be thumping that chest to hard yet. - They are FAR from being clear in this mess either
Knight says otherwise. Too big to fail, too big to even damage.
Apparently Lander was on campus three days. Visit went pretty well.
Julian Strawther will take 5 official visits during his Jr year. KU is not one of them and KU wasn't listed as among the schools recruiting him. KU staff is all in on Ochai it seems or pursuing others
BeddieKU23 said:
Julian Strawther will take 5 official visits during his Jr year. KU is not one of them and KU wasn't listed as among the schools recruiting him. KU staff is all in on Ochai it seems or pursuing others
Damn.
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Julian Strawther will take 5 official visits during his Jr year. KU is not one of them and KU wasn't listed as among the schools recruiting him. KU staff is all in on Ochai it seems or pursuing others
Damn.
Thought the same. At this point we are not serious with him. Really good player too
I was definitely hoping he was a player KU made a push for. Just not in the cards unfortunately.
BShark said:
I was definitely hoping he was a player KU made a push for. Just not in the cards unfortunately.
Agree he's one of my favorites in the 2020 class. I don't see any blue bloods involved which I think is odd so I wonder if the officials are just the benefit of the rules change, get some schools out the way that he may like but when he gets serious others get involved. I just can't see a player of his caliber going through his recruitment without some bigger programs stepping in.
I would think the 5 official visits he makes in his senior year are more important...unless he is planing to reclassify and come out early
Good point. I hope we get back into his recruitment
RJ Hampton will be in Lawrence for the Nova game.
FarmerJayhawk said:
RJ Hampton will be in Lawrence for the Nova game.
Oh baby.
@Crimsonorblue22 - me too! Tix were BIG $$$$!
The fight for Hampton is going to be a knockdown, drag out war. Duke is probably still the frontrunner but I haven't heard much since he announced he was staying in 20.
Rivals posted that KU is involved with 2020 PF Isiah Cottrell 6'9 prospect ranked #76 by Rivals, #58 247.
"Kansas has been very active," said Cottrell. "Wake Forest has been pretty active too and a few others off the top of my head it's hard to remember them all."
Up next, Cottrell hopes to use the rules that allow five official visits to his advantage as he tires to sort it all out.
"I know there are a few that are being set like Washington and Florida," said Cottrell. "Kansas, possibly, I only have three more left this year so I want to make sure about visiting. I just want to make sure that I'm making the right decision."
Jaden Springer says KU has been in touch with him among many others. I don't see us as a major threat with him
KU keeps in contact with Josh Christopher as well out of Cali. USC probably a shoe-in but who knows..
@BeddieKU23 Cottrell is the kind of big I want.
As for Springer, IMG? yawn
KU prospect Miller from Morgan Park is currently two doors down from me in his moms class room. He's Illinois' #1 rated Junior. I'm gonna meet this kid sometime and tell him KU is a great place for someone like him. I already told his mom that.
@BeddieKU23 I'm gonna check him out over Christmas break. His school actually has a game here in the gym where I teach.
@BeddieKU23 I know he's considering Northwestern too. That's actually a good sign about the kid. I don't know his mom very well. If I see Howard at the game, maybe I'll say hi to him like I did a few years ago when I was watching Markese Jacobs.
Of course the kid has Wisconsin on his list so I might tell him UW is a nice fall back school if KU doesn't work out.
To be honest, as an Illinois native, and Illini fan, but not fanatic growing up, I would love to see Illinois basketball become relevant again so if he ends up there, that wouldn't be the end of the world in my mind.
Goodness, if I meet him, I'm gonna confuse him.
BeddieKU23 said:
If I remember correctly Howard knows his mom really well. I know Illinois has made him a priority. I definitely see him as a fit at KU and I hope we continue to recruit.
KU will have some good guard options in 2020. Self needs to not overplay his hand though, and take good players that are ready to commit.
After watching Adam Miller last night, we must get.
wissox said:
After watching Adam Miller last night, we must get.
He's a special talent for sure.
Rivals with a Ty Berry update. Doesn't seem like a big priority for KU right now.
Ty Berry’s junior season, from a team perspective, hasn’t started the way he had hoped as Newton (Kan.) is off to a 2-4 start. However, the class of 2020 Rivals150 point guard is off to a pretty strong start personally, as he’s averaging 26 points, 5 assists and 5 rebounds per game through his first six games.
On the recruiting side, Berry has all the usual suspects in the Midwest coming after him. The junior mentioned Purdue, Wichita State, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Kansas, Creighton, Nebraska, Iowa and Missouri as schools actively involved in recruiting him. He’s taken recent trips to Iowa, Iowa State, Kansas, Nebraska and Wichita State, and plans to see Creighton and Missouri soon.
IN HIS OWN WORDS
Berry broke down some of the programs who have been active in his recruitment.
Iowa: “I liked Iowa. It was cool. I had a good time. I liked the coaching staff a lot.”
Iowa State: “Iowa State was really cool, too. Coach (Steve) Prohm and his staff were really friendly and they just try to get good guys up there.”
Kansas: “I actually went up to Late Night at the Phog there. I mean, Kansas is Kansas. They are tough as always and a great program.”
Kansas State: “(Bruce Weber) came to some of our practices, so I’ve talked to him a little bit. He’s cool. They have definitely stepped up the last couple years.”
Nebraska: “I went there for a football game. It was cool. I like coach (Tim) Miles. He’s a cool dude. He has a lot of energy.”
Purdue: “They are a pretty tough team in the Big Ten every year. I haven’t been up there yet, but they’ve come to my school to see me. I’ve watched them a good bit this year. They play fast and smart and push the ball. I like that.”
RIVALS' REACTION
At this point in the process, Berry says he’s completely open to all the schools recruiting him and is nowhere near making a decision. This is one of those cases though where it’s probably wise to follow the visits. Both Iowa schools seem to be gaining a lot of traction with him, as well as Nebraska. Purdue is another school he spoke very highly of. Things can always change, but early on Berry looks like a player who could make it out of his home state of Kansas
KU has jumped into the mix for Matur Maker cousin of one-time KU prospect Thon Maker.
This is an easy answer for me, seven-footer Makur Maker has put himself into the conversation of 2020’s most elite prospects and will push for the national top five next time we update rankings. The cousin of the Milwaukee Bucks' Thon Maker and former four-star big man Matur Maker, can do a little bit of everything. He’s got deep shooting range, can handle the ball, is becoming a shot blocker and presents nightmare matchup issues.
His recruitment is just starting to take off. UCLA had been making a major play and I assume whoever takes over will do so as well. USC and Oregon recently offered and Kansas just jumped in this week. He’ll have everybody in the country checking in.
Lol
BeddieKU23 said:
Any shot here realistically?
Haven't payed much attention to him as I assumed he was Duke's..
I don't think he even knows which sport he will play yet. I haven't been following super closely either.
KU will likely need a big class in 2020. Hopefully it is a bounceback class.
Sic Les on him too!
Just dropping by - - breezing through, I think we are keeping touch on this kid. - -Soph out of Wichita South East I think. - - Name is Jackie Johnson the 3rd. - - -got to see him play tonight out at the Topeka High Invitional.
Looks pretty sweet. - - -Unbelievable court vision, really sweet passes. A Lefty - - -averaging 22 points a game in the Wichita City league - - went off for 22 tonight , shooting 50 % from the 3 on the season -- could of had 30 easily tonight for sure got into a little foul trouble then finished up with like 4 minutes to go in the game - - - 4-5 from the free throw line - -shooting 70% from the line - - 3-5 from 3 tonight pretty sweet looking tonight. - -Hope we keep very close contact with him. - -Ok I'm out just passing through - -hope everyone is good cya -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
jayballer73 said:
Just dropping by - - breezing through, I think we are keeping touch on this kid. - -Soph out of Wichita South East I think. - - Name is Jackie Johnson the 3rd. - - -got to see him play tonight out at the Topeka High Invitional.
Looks pretty sweet. - - -Unbelievable court vision, really sweet passes. A Lefty - - -averaging 22 points a game in the Wichita City league - - went off for 22 tonight , shooting 50 % from the 3 on the season -- could of had 30 easily tonight for sure got into a little foul trouble then finished up with like 4 minutes to go in the game - - - 4-5 from the free throw line - -shooting 70% from the line - - 3-5 from 3 tonight pretty sweet looking tonight. - -Hope we keep very close contact with him. - -Ok I'm out just passing through - -hope everyone is good cya -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Yes he does play for Wichita southeast and yes he is a sophomore he is a good player for his age group
Seems like KU might have a shot with Johnny Juzang.
BShark said:
Seems like KU might have a shot with Johnny Juzang.
Also some talk of the kid Tristian Enaruna in this class of 2019 ranked like 86th I believe not for sure been some talk about him
BShark said:
Seems like KU might have a shot with Johnny Juzang.
Anything this is based on? What's the connection here. I see the Meyer CB. Most recent video was okay. Great size for a wing. Zaire Williams in that same video looked like a D-1 player as well. Pulling Cali kids always seems like a waste of time but who knows.
Roy used to pull Cali kids but I understand your point.
Made RJ Hampton’s final 5: KU, Duke, Kentucky, TCU, Memphis. I think KU, Duke, and Memphis lead.
Well, at least we are still in it with this guy. I don't think the door is closed on him ending up in 19 just yet either. Seems a lot of 20 kids are at least considering the move. Might open another 4-5 prospects KU might have a chance with in the spring.
BeddieKU23 said:
Well, at least we are still in it with this guy. I don't think the door is closed on him ending up in 19 just yet either. Seems a lot of 20 kids are at least considering the move. Might open another 4-5 prospects KU might have a chance with in the spring.
Kid is a KU fan but we all know there are many more factors for his services.
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Well, at least we are still in it with this guy. I don't think the door is closed on him ending up in 19 just yet either. Seems a lot of 20 kids are at least considering the move. Might open another 4-5 prospects KU might have a chance with in the spring.
Kid is a KU fan but we all know there are many more factors for his services.
Yeah $woo$h reasons
BeddieKU23 said:
Well, at least we are still in it with this guy. I don't think the door is closed on him ending up in 19 just yet either. Seems a lot of 20 kids are at least considering the move. Might open another 4-5 prospects KU might have a chance with in the spring.
We won’t get him if it’s in 19 unless Grimes leaves. But I would love to get him and move Grimes to the 3 so he doesn’t have to defend guys that are quite as quick.
I hope we are in it til the end for Cade Cunningham. Teammate of KU targets Achiuwa and Beverly. Top 5 player in his class. Plays PG at 6'6 215'ish. KU offered in October. Not sure Barnes & Jalen Johnson are better then this guy.
BeddieKU23 said:
I hope we are in it til the end for Cade Cunningham. Teammate of KU targets Achiuwa and Beverly. Top 5 player in his class. Plays PG at 6'6 215'ish. KU offered in October. Not sure Barnes & Jalen Johnson are better then this guy.
Julian Strawther released his final 10 without KU on it. Oh well
BeddieKU23 said:
Julian Strawther released his final 10 without KU on it. Oh well
Damn. Looks like Marquette and Gonzaga are heavily involved. Figured it was a bad sign when he was taking visits early and KU wasn't involved. I am guessing the staff was unwilling to go after him that strongly + early. Unfortunate.
Mark Few is clean tho...
He's a fit at both programs.
We have may backed off on some wings since Agbaji has become a star. 2020 class is loaded if everyone sticks. I guess there wasn't enough mutual interest here. He has an absence of elite level programs on his list but he's definitely a top shelf talent.
BeddieKU23 said:
He has an absence of elite level programs on his list but he's definitely a top shelf talent.
Always interesting when this happens. There might be a red flag.
Agree. He has roamed around that 30 to 40 level in the ranks for a while. Maybe he feels like a bigger priority for those teams that usually get in deep with these types. Generally you don't see the big boys come calling until summer for most underclassmen and it doesn't seem like he's going to wait for them to come calling. Might just be a different dude then we are used to seeing.
Made Scottie Barnes top 8. Weeeeee.
https://247sports.com/Player/DJ-Steward-46047999/ ↗
KU watched him last night.
Matt Scott @kutheshiver 11m
2020 phenom pg r.j. Hampton will begin his official visit to Kansas this week will be here for Saturday's game vs Baylor
Well at least he is visiting. We can say that
@BeddieKU23 Indeed. We can hang a recruiting banner. "Got a visit from RJ Hampton".
KU has a real shot in this one, assuming RJ comes in 2020. He probably won't decide on a class until summer.
Arizona St doing that unofficial cheating thing where they add the less talented brother to get the 5 star brother. Josh Christopher is the player I'm talking about. His unranked brother just committed to ASU. KU has recruited Josh..likely to no avail
@BeddieKU23 KU would never take KJ to land Dedrick or any thing similar. 😝 I hope ASU gets stuck with the brother. I also wish I had a brother good enough to get me a scholarship! Remember when Blake Griffin was so good his brother got drafted into the NBA?
Didn't we do that or were going to w/a sister?
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Didn't we do that or were going to w/a sister?
That's been done.
https://247sports.com/Player/Isaiah-Cottrell-46040560/ ↗
This kid is making a official this weekend as well.
bout time KU got on getting Juniors to official
Woodrow said:
https://247sports.com/Player/Isaiah-Cottrell-46040560/ ↗
This kid is making a official this weekend as well.
Want.
And I wonder if he would have the chance to reclass. We are going to need a big badly.
Sounds like doke won’t be back.
Can Doke improve while sitting out?
Self: "No, no I don't see how you can better by just sitting and observing. ... He's still got the screw in hand."
Self says Azubuike has to keep the cast on always -- unless he's just walking, but only if there isn't ice on the ground. He does think he could be better next year just because he's older...
"I doubt we're going to get a chance to witness that, though," Self said.
@Crimsonorblue22 Yeah. I think Dedric and Doke are both 99.9% gone.
Not expecting anything with Silvio of course. If an impact big isn't added I could see Self scouring the grad transfer market. The back court next year will be really good and improved from this year but just Dave + Mitch up front is not close to enough.
Sounds like KU is honing in on this guy for a 2020 PG. Hampton could play on or off the ball and they’d obviously be able to defend both guard spots. https://247sports.com/Player/Daishen-Nix-46050728/ ↗
FarmerJayhawk said:
Sounds like KU is honing in on this guy for a 2020 PG. Hampton could play on or off the ball and they’d obviously be able to defend both guard spots. https://247sports.com/Player/Daishen-Nix-46050728/ ↗
He's been my top realistic guard want in 20 for awhile. Can absolutely ball.
Is he actually a PG? 6-5 would not be the prototypical BS PG
Kcmatt7 said:
Is he actually a PG? 6-5 would not be the prototypical BS PG
He’s at least 6’4 from what I’ve heard. He’s actually a lot like Deron Williams or dare say Grimes
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Cut his list to 8. KU is on it.
You'd like to think this is a recruitment KU can win especially if Wade is out at LSU.
We really need another guard and big for next years class because it's all but that certain than a few guys will leave. The next month on the trail and the what the NCAA releases next month will be huge on if that happens.
BShark said:
Saw him play against Oak Hill recently. He was good as a stretch 4. Kofi couldn't handle his versatility.
He needs to get rid of that mop on his head though. Looks so silly with it.
Wasatch Academy has another guy on their team worth monitoring. He was a blur with the ball, their PG Mike Sanders. He's Devon Dotson quick with the ball. Defended Cole Anthony well. Has a 6'7 wingspan. Not a great shooter at this point but he'll rise from his current rank #228.
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
Saw him play against Oak Hill recently. He was good as a stretch 4. Kofi couldn't handle his versatility.
He needs to get rid of that mop on his head though. Looks so silly with it.
Wasatch Academy has another guy on their team worth monitoring. He was a blur with the ball, their PG Mike Sanders. He's Devon Dotson quick with the ball. Defended Cole Anthony well. Has a 6'7 wingspan. Not a great shooter at this point but he'll rise from his current rank #228.
If he can Ball - -I could give a hoot about his hair - -if he can shoot and defend well hell knock yourself out - - just score the ball - -we good to go. - - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Give me 6 players - combination of top 100, jucos and grad tranfers - and I'd be happy. Hell, such a scenario would help us in the long run, would be (i.e., stayers rather than goers) a foundation class.
I know this kid has been mentioned on here before. - -Caleb Lohner 6"7. Just seen a 10 minute video on him ya I know high lite BUT man like has been said not really sure if we are putting in our time with him or not BUT.
The kid can flat out stroke the ball. - He Can catch and shoot - - he can shoot it off the dribble - - - he can finish at the rim - can really stroke the 3 ball - - - - -Decent handles - -Only draw back I can see is he DOESN'T have Garrett's shooting form lmao - - just kidding.
Thing is hearing he is more likely Mormon - -probably a BYU recruit - but sure the hell doesn't hurt to put out feeler's Can't hurt - - you don't show any interest - -you sure the hell aren't gonna get anyone. -- Worth a shot. - Oh Ya and has really nice hair lmao. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer73 "Really nice hair"........That's good!
This one will end up at a Power 5 school I believe. Baylor put in some work early with him but I see his versatility being coveted by others. He played well on TV a few weeks ago against Oak Hill. Much better then Enaruna showed
He is a player I could see KU making a push for.
And the good times just keep rollin in. - -I think the kid's 1st name is Julian - - Anyways Strawther - -Julian - committed to Gonzaga - -another kid we were suppose to be in pretty decent shape with in the class of 2020 - -let the good times roll - - DAM - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
KU showed interest in the kid last year but Julian went a different way. Two way street. KU didn't even make his list he put out months ago
BeddieKU23 said:
KU showed interest in the kid last year but Julian went a different way. Two way street. KU didn't even make his list he put out months ago
Oh my bad - - hadn't seen that - -slipped by me - -well- - - - - - -. ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
jayballer73 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
KU showed interest in the kid last year but Julian went a different way. Two way street. KU didn't even make his list he put out months ago
Oh my bad - - hadn't seen that - -slipped by me - -well- - - - - - -. ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
No worries. If I remember correctly he once said KU was his dream school? Is that the belief you had on him???
Seems like his dream school talk died awful quick.
BeddieKU23 said:
jayballer73 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
KU showed interest in the kid last year but Julian went a different way. Two way street. KU didn't even make his list he put out months ago
Oh my bad - - hadn't seen that - -slipped by me - -well- - - - - - -. ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
No worries. If I remember correctly he once said KU was his dream school? Is that the belief you had on him???
Seems like his dream school talk died awful quick.
Ya pretty much - -you know just beginning NOT to trust anything that comes from the mouth of babes - - or trust these so called experts - -or and fricken Crystal Balls anymore other trust any of these he said - -she said - -they said - -or a friend of mine has a friend who has a friend that has a brother -that has a girlfriend who works in the office - - or a dad that was suppose to have said that the dog handler said anymore - -just don't trust anything until we see the kids name officially a committed Jayhawk or from Coach saying it's official. - Examples? - - Ayton - - -Hurt - - - Julian - -and on - - and - - on - -and on - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Scottie Barnes is coming to visit soon. Date TBD.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Scottie Barnes is coming to visit soon. Date TBD.
Official Visit?
Possible Reclass? He's already 18. Maybe trying to sneak into the 2020 draft?
FarmerJayhawk said:
Scottie Barnes is coming to visit soon. Date TBD.
Are we actually recruiting again? Gaht dam.
Kcmatt7 said:
Possible Reclass? He's already 18. Maybe trying to sneak into the 2020 draft?
I'd pee myself.
Kcmatt7 said:
Possible Reclass? He's already 18. Maybe trying to sneak into the 2020 draft?
It'll be official. He'll be 19 during the 2020 draft year so it's possible assuming his grades are in order.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Possible Reclass? He's already 18. Maybe trying to sneak into the 2020 draft?
It'll be official. He'll be 19 during the 2020 draft year so it's possible assuming his grades are in order.
That's what I like to hear.
I'm not trying to get myself too hyped, but he looks like a guy who plays hard. And that jumper don't exactly look broke (form-wise).
BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Possible Reclass? He's already 18. Maybe trying to sneak into the 2020 draft?
I'd pee myself.
😷
I thought he was already committed somewhere wasn't there a Lewis and him a hot item together? - -probably just me forgetting to take my pills again
@jayballer7 What kind of pills do you take? Are they good?
@Gorilla72 damn. I think we all need pretty good pills anymore, don't we?
If Zeus Jackson, who - Greek mythology not withstanding - is related to Adonis Jordan joins KU, along with Poseidon Williams then we soon - class of 2023 - will be in great shape.
Marco said:
@jayballer7 What kind of pills do you take? Are they good?
lol - - ya man I'm tellin ya - but gonna see if I can't get the ol doc to increase the strength. - I'm tired of seeing the same colors lol. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
KU offered Josh Hall, a 6-foot-9, 190-pound junior small forward from Moravian Prep Academy in Hickory, North Carolina. Norm primary here.
Hall, the No. 139-rated player in the recruiting Class of 2020 by Rivals.com, is considering KU, Oklahoma State, Florida, North Carolina State and others.
"They just have had really good success with those guys and he told me I remind him of the first time that he saw a young Brandon Ingram.”
KU was watching Jalen Suggs, Maddy Sissoko, Daron Holmes Jr, Karim Mane among others this past weekend in the 20 class. I know I missed a bunch they were everywhere
BeddieKU23 said:
KU offered Josh Hall, a 6-foot-9, 190-pound junior small forward from Moravian Prep Academy in Hickory, North Carolina. Norm primary here.
Hall, the No. 139-rated player in the recruiting Class of 2020 by Rivals.com, is considering KU, Oklahoma State, Florida, North Carolina State and others.
"They just have had really good success with those guys and he told me I remind him of the first time that he saw a young Brandon Ingram.”
He's from Durham LOL.
So I guess we have to hope he is good and develops but not good enough to get a Duke offer...
Self checking in with https://247sports.com/Player/Jabri-Abdur-Rahim-46036363/ ↗ tomorrow
Self had an in-home visit with Greg Brown.
He's busting his ass lately, perhaps rejuvenated?
BShark said:
Self had an in-home visit with Greg Brown.
He's busting his ass lately, perhaps rejuvenated?
That's going to be one tough bucket of cash to overcome. Talented player. Hope we keep in it
COREY EVANS @COREYEVANS_10 4H
SOURCE FIVE-star sophomomore JT THOR WILL TAKE AN UNOFFICIAL VISIT TO KANSAS TOMORROW @JAYHAWKSLANT
BShark said:
Self had an in-home visit with Greg Brown.
He's busting his ass lately, perhaps rejuvenated?
Angry Self is dangerous Self.
BShark said:
Self had an in-home visit with Greg Brown.
He's busting his ass lately, perhaps rejuvenated?
That's what I was going to mention. - I was going to say hope we weren't losing track of Brown , I know he is interested in KU some things mentioned about Brown from the past weekend playing in the EBYL:
Greg Brown , 2020 class - - - PF 6'9 plays with the Texas Titans: - Has the size , length and athleticism - -becoming a more well rounded player - - ELITE level rebounding , he is developing his handle and Jumper. -- Numerous times faced up his man and through a combination of dribbles then step back pulling up from 18 ft. - Had a game 24 points and 14 rebounds - -shooting -- 11-15 from the floor with 4 jumpers.
Bill is getin after it - would be sweet to see him come in the year after RJ leaves - -just let that tide roll. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
COREY EVANS @COREYEVANS_10 4H
SOURCE FIVE-star sophomomore JT THOR WILL TAKE AN UNOFFICIAL VISIT TO KANSAS TOMORROW @JAYHAWKSLANT
WOULD BE 2021?
@jayballer73 yes 2021 as of now.
Coach Self is going to visit 6'6 5 star tomorrow , from Blair Academy NJ - - - -Jabri Abdul Rahim - - - Busy - - - Busy - - Busy. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
The gloves have come off, it seems.
Not sure this is any different then any other year with Coach hitting the road. I'd assume this is an open period for contact with recruits. Maybe he's changed his approach some? Getting to see some priority targets before the AAU season leaves most of these kids too busy is never a bad thing.
Some yikes news on Caleb Lohner from the same poster with the RJ Hampton info re other players on RJ's AAU team.
"The only player of significance is Caleb Lohner, who recently transferred to the same school that Enaruna goes to in Utah. Lohner's dad makes Marty Frankamp look like a saint. Tom Izzo point blank told the dad, "if you are going to bad mouth his high school coach, then he can't play for me," and quit recruiting him."
BShark said:
Some yikes news on Caleb Lohner from the same poster with the RJ Hampton info re other players on RJ's AAU team.
"The only player of significance is Caleb Lohner, who recently transferred to the same school that Enaruna goes to in Utah. Lohner's dad makes Marty Frankamp look like a saint. Tom Izzo point blank told the dad, "if you are going to bad mouth his high school coach, then he can't play for me," and quit recruiting him."
Not sure we would want that kind of headache right?
@jayballer73 Exactly my man.
Sounds like Bryce Thompson has blown up this Spring. I’ve seen a lot of articles about how much he has improved. I really hope Self and the staff are prioritizing him. Looks like a lot of new schools are recruiting him now.
Woodrow said:
Sounds like Bryce Thompson has blown up this Spring. I’ve seen a lot of articles about how much he has improved. I really hope Self and the staff are prioritizing him. Looks like a lot of new schools are recruiting him now.
He's always been good imo. Hope this doesn't end up like Sam Williamson.
You know guys (yeah, I'm going to say it), I'm not a big fan of - weren't these Condi Rice's recommendations? - these new agent and NBA draft rules. Who is going to come back? "Gee, I don't know, we'll let you know when we do."
Marco said:
You know guys (yeah, I'm going to say it), I'm not a big fan of - weren't these Condi Rice's recommendations? - these new agent and NBA draft rules. Who is going to come back? "Gee, I don't know, we'll let you know when we do."
Many of the proposals while well intentioned were terrible. The road to hell and whatnot.
@BShark Not so sure about the road to hell. The problem that I have with the whole thing is that it only takes into account the right of the student-athlete and not the program or university. If the rights of only the student-athlete are important then why do we need the NCAA?
The problem is the people that created the recommendations only looked at the things they didn't like about the current system, without considering the things that are good about the current system.
For instance, let's say you're a random kid that isn't ranked very high (or not ranked at all), you go to a non-powerhouse school in your state, etc. Under this new system, your chances of proving yourself and getting on a P5 coaches radar are basically gone because you won't get the invite to the camp to go toe to toe with some of the top players in your class. That's how Jevon Carter ended up at West Virginia. That's part of how Frank Mason got on Bill Self's radar. They weren't super high ranked throughout high school. They probably wouldn't have gotten an invite to the regional camp. But the AAU circuit allowed them to prove they could flat out play, and that landed them P5 opportunities. This system takes that chance away for a lot of kids because they won't get those AAU chances to prove themselves.
Yeah, AAU has its seedy characters and questionable ethics, but it also has a lot of programs that give kids exposure that they otherwise could not get playing for their local high school, and playing a role that might be more similar to their college role. There are a lot of 6-6 guys that will be wing players in college, but they are the de facto center on their HS team because of talent and personnel. But on their AAU squad, they play the 3 spot, which is where they need to be to get properly evaluated by college coaches on both ends.
No system would ever be perfect, but neither the old system or this new one really solves the problem. This one tries to take the money out of the top part of the game, but may suffocate the lower tiers along the way. Think of it this way - the kids that get recruited to the low major programs, or the D2 level, are now going to miss out on that type of exposure. Those kids play AAU, too. Maybe they aren't a fit for their local D2 program, but there's a coach in Ohio or Texas or Florida or Arizona that has a roster spot that they fit into. But with these local camps, non major recruiting is going to get really regionalized, which may cost some deserving student athletes a shot.
Seems like N'Faly Dante is leaning toward staying in 2020. Nobody on his list really has room for him at this point other than Oregon and not sure he wants to go there.
We need to sign Dante.
Marco said:
We need to sign Dante.
Swoosh
Honestly, the prep school to pro might happen for Dante. Could see a year overseas as well. Don't want to be "overseas guy" like Jerry Meyer was circa 2016, but it's an appealing option for a kid like N'Faly. Hate to say it but if he goes to school in 2020 I think Oregon (with Scottie Barnes, we're not getting him) or UK. Cade Cunningham is one of my top 5 players in the class and I'd love to have him but he and Dante could be lethal.
@FarmerJayhawk The assumption with Cade is UK right? But he basically never talks about his recruitment so who knows.
@BShark yup. It's early to say it's a lock, but they're the leader in the clubhouse. He seems genuinely intrigued by Kansas, so I bet we get an official at least. I think Daishen Nix is the guy at PG for us though. Self is all about him. Greg Brown is target A, B, and C at the 4 spot as of today. UNC and Texas will be tough to beat. I really like Jalen Suggs (dude is tough as nails and can play 1-3) and Xavier Foster, who seems open. We offered Foster last summer. Really skilled 4/5 man. Going to be tough to pull from Iowa. But might be legit 7'0 240 by the time he gets to college. The 2020 class is really the first I've been excited about since 2016.
FarmerJayhawk said:
@BShark yup. It's early to say it's a lock, but they're the leader in the clubhouse. He seems genuinely intrigued by Kansas, so I bet we get an official at least. I think Daishen Nix is the guy at PG for us though. Self is all about him. Greg Brown is target A, B, and C at the 4 spot as of today. UNC and Texas will be tough to beat. I really like Jalen Suggs (dude is tough as nails and can play 1-3) and Xavier Foster, who seems open. We offered Foster last summer. Really skilled 4/5 man. Going to be tough to pull from Iowa. But might be legit 7'0 240 by the time he gets to college. The 2020 class is really the first I've been excited about since 2016.
Got to remember - -Could be Kyree sticks in 2020 - IF he sticks in2020 -think we have a good shot with him. - We could slide him in several different spots. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
@BShark yup. It's early to say it's a lock, but they're the leader in the clubhouse. He seems genuinely intrigued by Kansas, so I bet we get an official at least. I think Daishen Nix is the guy at PG for us though. Self is all about him. Greg Brown is target A, B, and C at the 4 spot as of today. UNC and Texas will be tough to beat. I really like Jalen Suggs (dude is tough as nails and can play 1-3) and Xavier Foster, who seems open. We offered Foster last summer. Really skilled 4/5 man. Going to be tough to pull from Iowa. But might be legit 7'0 240 by the time he gets to college. The 2020 class is really the first I've been excited about since 2016.
Got to remember - -Could be Kyree sticks in 2020 - IF he sticks in2020 -think we have a good shot with him. - We could slide him in several different spots. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Good call. If Ochai goes pro we'll have more PT than he could ever want. I think he ends up in 2019. We have a legit shot if we miss on Rayjon.
FarmerJayhawk said:
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
@BShark yup. It's early to say it's a lock, but they're the leader in the clubhouse. He seems genuinely intrigued by Kansas, so I bet we get an official at least. I think Daishen Nix is the guy at PG for us though. Self is all about him. Greg Brown is target A, B, and C at the 4 spot as of today. UNC and Texas will be tough to beat. I really like Jalen Suggs (dude is tough as nails and can play 1-3) and Xavier Foster, who seems open. We offered Foster last summer. Really skilled 4/5 man. Going to be tough to pull from Iowa. But might be legit 7'0 240 by the time he gets to college. The 2020 class is really the first I've been excited about since 2016.
Got to remember - -Could be Kyree sticks in 2020 - IF he sticks in2020 -think we have a good shot with him. - We could slide him in several different spots. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Good call. If Ochai goes pro we'll have more PT than he could ever want. I think he ends up in 2019. We have a legit shot if we miss on Rayjon.
Ya I'm kinda of thinking he very well could too. - Not as excited about that now as when things didn't look as good with RJ. - -that would be a no lose situation - either Rayjon - -OR Kyree. - -Kyree is an absolute beast - - really thick - -incredible hops - I would love to have him here. - -Having said that -would this be a case of taking the experience with our grad Rayon that is NBA caliber if presented - -as much as I love Kyree I think the answer to that question is simple -- We take Rayjon if nothing more because of experience
Talent wise I believe it's a wash - -experience just means so much - -wish we could have both but that's not happening. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Duke already landing 5* players for 2020. Jeremy Roach a PG is the first of many I would assume .
Woodrow said:
Duke already landing 5* players for 2020. Jeremy Roach a PG is the first of many I would assume .
checks profile
sees Nike team USA jersey
Carry on.
A new name mentioned in our 2020 recruiting that I hadn't heard mentioned anyways.
Mady Sissoko 6'9 - - - 230 lb -from Mali- - - ranked at the present # 51 player in the class of 2020 ( Mount Pleasant Wasatch Academy. - - article stated Tremendous Athlete , long plays with a level 10 motor , legit rim protector , and legit rebounder from both sides of the court. He caused a delay in one of the games after a powerful dunk from him partially broke part of the rim.
His list of Schools at the present are BYU , Colorado , Oregon St , Utah , Utah St , & KU - - from seeing this list looks to me like might be hard to get off the Western pat of the Country or Coast. - - -From the sounds of it , I'm sure gonna be getting more interest for sure. - -This article summary was given by John Gershon - - - -who knows what will happen we shall see. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Basically Diallo 2.0
@BeddieKU23 Can we take a team vote before we ink him to an LOI?
BeddieKU23 said:
Basically Diallo 2.0
If he's a multi-year Diallo I'd take him in a heartbeat.
HEY - - what has happened to us with our recruitment on Greg Brown? -had a article on him off Zags Blog about his recruitment. - -I know we were recruiting him and recruiting him pretty hard.
Now he says several schools recruiting him hard and KU is not listed. - - -Brown stated that Memphis - - - Texas - - -North Carolina - - & Auburn are the schools that have been working the hardest , stating that he was planning to cut his list like I think he said around Jun or July to like 7 schools, - we better stay hard on this kid - -we had been active with him for some time and now NOTHING?
ANYONE know any more info - -really good player. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Nike won't allow him to go to KU.
Why don't the players just wear Nike or Adidas or UA on their jerseys? Then we'd know who these players are really playing for.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Why don't the players just wear Nike or Adidas or UA on their jerseys? Then we'd know who these players are really playing for.
Greg Brown is actually Adidas AAU but I just assume Nike will get him if they want him. See Hurt, Matt.
I’m not sure what the strategy is in 20. We need a big, big group again. Brown and Dante are the big targets but I think UNC for Brown and Oregon for Dante.
Some good info from the Star (oxymoron I know) on some 2020 guys. https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article230345514.html ↗
And I absolutely love Isaiah Todd. UK is going to be a nightmare though.
Would be concerned about Bryce Thompson as of now. Officially visited Oklahoma yesterday..
Jaden Springer cut his list to 11 including KU. Surprisingly no Duke/UK at this time. Can't imagine that actually stays that way heading into the summer. I know he's a longshot. Just passing along that he has KU on his long list
BeddieKU23 said:
Jaden Springer cut his list to 11 including KU. Surprisingly no Duke/UK at this time. Can't imagine that actually stays that way heading into the summer. I know he's a longshot. Just passing along that he has KU on his long list
Rivals is 100% Tenn and 24/7 is 100% UNC. Found that interesting.
Interesting. I haven't paid much attention to him to him since he's really a longshot. IMG as we know does us no favors either.
Looks like Tennessee is trending for a 4 star SG Keon Johnson who announced a final 3 and will announce in August.
I know Springer took an official visit to Tenn already and has visited 3 times overall.. Hmm
Saw the recent article on Cade Cunningham, another unlikely guard KU can get. His Brother played at SMU under Larry Brown which could be some sort of "in".
Seems like if Kentucky wants him they will get him. He's a stud, top 3 player in 20 from what I've seen
BeddieKU23 said:
Saw the recent article on Cade Cunningham, another unlikely guard KU can get. His Brother played at SMU under Larry Brown which could be some sort of "in".
Seems like if Kentucky wants him they will get him. He's an stud, top 3 player in 20 from what I've seen
Wouldn't be the first player Larry has dropped off to Bill. If he can...I'd be all about it. Cade is soooooooo good.
KU HAS OFFER A SCHOLARSHIP TO 2021 5- STAR TERRENCE CLARKE
KU recently offered 5 star guard Cam Thomas of Oak Hill. Master Bucket getter is all you need to know here
Really wondering where KU's focus will be in 2020. I wouldn't consider anyone in the Top 15 to end up at KU right now.
Kyree Walker seems like the prospect we have the most traction with but he's been bouncing between 19 & 20. I don't think it will end well if he sticks in 20 when other teams look at him as a focus. The edge for KU in 19 was having scholarships available and PT.
Is it just me or does it feel like KU is behind the 8 ball with this class? Didn't get many underclassmen on campus for visits. KU has 5 starting spots to sell after this season. I'm surprised how little interest kids have with that
BeddieKU23 said:
KU recently offered 5 star guard Cam Thomas of Oak Hill. Master Bucket getter is all you need to know here
That's a great description. He's not super quick, or super athletic, or really big, or anything else. He just puts the ball in the basket over and over and over.
Now, he's not overly small, or unathletic, or slow by any means. But the thing that stands out about him when you watch is that he puts the ball in the basket all the time.
@BeddieKU23 I just think we have a weird roster at the moment. We have those tweener guys that scare players away. You're not telling anyone they're starting over Ochai in 2020. McBride should scare some PGs. Braun is a 6'8 Wing player with a stroke. Garrett will be a Senior Wing player. Enaruna a guy plenty athletic to have a good Sophomore season at PF. Big Dave at C.
I guess I personally just don't see 5 starting spots to sell at the moment. I see a lot of competition.
justanotherfan said:
BeddieKU23 said:
KU recently offered 5 star guard Cam Thomas of Oak Hill. Master Bucket getter is all you need to know here
That's a great description. He's not super quick, or super athletic, or really big, or anything else. He just puts the ball in the basket over and over and over.
Now, he's not overly small, or unathletic, or slow by any means. But the thing that stands out about him when you watch is that he puts the ball in the basket all the time.
There's a lot of Malik Newman in him. Not saying they are the same type of prospect but the ability to score is what they do best. I'm surprised we didn't offer earlier. He's one of the best scorers in the country regardless of class
Kcmatt7 said:
@BeddieKU23 I just think we have a weird roster at the moment. We have those tweener guys that scare players away. You're not telling anyone they're starting over Ochai in 2020. McBride should scare some PGs. Braun is a 6'8 Wing player with a stroke. Garrett will be a Senior Wing player. Enaruna a guy plenty athletic to have a good Sophomore season at PF. Big Dave at C.
I guess I personally just don't see 5 starting spots to sell at the moment. I see a lot of competition.
Recruiting just seems to be changing quicker then KU can keep up.
Positions KU will have to focus on regardless is PG & PF/C. KU will need at least two big bodies even if Jaylen signs with KU.
Let's get Cunningham and Todd and just dumpster opponents.
BeddieKU23 said:
Cunningham/Cam Thomas is my dream backcourt.
The bigs in 20 are not appealing.
Outside of Todd and Dante I agree. Odds of Dante are slim. Self could roll out JR Dave, SO Enaruna, SO Wilson and SO Braun and it would be small but livable with a ton of shooting. Braun would be the 4th guy with minimal minutes. Adding Todd would change everything in the front court.
Tons of great guard options but how many spots does KU have is a real question. My top wants in order and I'd be fine with any of em: Cunningham, Nix, Thompson, Miller, Thomas. Would love to see Berry offered at some point to be a stash and develop guy if he is okay with that.
He'd be a fine back-up 5.
Kcmatt7 said:
@BeddieKU23 I just think we have a weird roster at the moment. We have those tweener guys that scare players away. You're not telling anyone they're starting over Ochai in 2020. McBride should scare some PGs. Braun is a 6'8 Wing player with a stroke. Garrett will be a Senior Wing player. Enaruna a guy plenty athletic to have a good Sophomore season at PF. Big Dave at C.
I guess I personally just don't see 5 starting spots to sell at the moment. I see a lot of competition.
I think that's probably a pretty fair assumption - -choice of words , I couldn't disagree with that - Nice buddy couldn't agree more. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Yeah,,, I know,,, maybe coach knows a bit more than me but I agree with @BShark, Ty Berry should have already been offered - the guy can ball. In fact, I'll take it a step further, why recruit five star point guards (just a hypothetical) at all? How about just signing solid point guards like McBride who can do everything and then fill out the rest of the roster with top 20 to 75 guys?
Saw ty play his sophomore year. Need to watch him again. His team not great and neither was the team he played. Hard for me to tell.
Marco said:
Yeah,,, I know,,, maybe coach knows a bit more than me but I agree with @BShark, Ty Berry should have already been offered - the guy can ball. In fact, I'll take it a step further, why recruit five star point guards (just a hypothetical) at all? How about just signing solid point guards like McBride who can do everything and then fill out the rest of the roster with top 20 to 75 guys?
It's very difficult to find guys willing to come in and sit for a bit. Which is what you would want them to do or you'd have growing pain years. For better or worse Self tries to field the best team possible every year.
Even for THE GREAT ONE at Villanova he had some early departures so they couldn't do their typical development stuff, had to start young guys and suffered for it this last season.
@Marco You have to find those guys though and it's pretty rare. The staff stumbled into Frank and Devonte. Self also constantly tried to recruit over both. I don't remember fully what the story with Issac (this is how his name is spelled, going to be fun on KU boards for years to come) is but I hope he ends up being a similar success story. He reminds me more of Devonte than Frank. He's got "in the gym" range just needs to get a little quicker if possible.
@Marco You said, "... fill out the rest of the roster with top 20 to 75 guys." Your point is one that I have discussed here on multiple occasions. I think it is a good one. I firmly believe that the key is that the coach has to make a commitment to the players outside of OAD range (up to a certain level) that he will never recruit over them with a presumed OAD. Committing to avoiding the presumed OAD is the key. That is completely realistic. It's as simple as doing it. Further, it would set a tenor for the program, it would free up a massive amount of time that was otherwise spent chasing the next Andrew Wiggins, and most of all, it would fit better with Bill Self as a coach. If a school like KU focuses on that range of recruits, I fail to see how we can't land a nice crop each season.
@BShark I think sometimes we confuse the "fielding the best team" with pursuing presumed OADs. I firmly believe presumed OADs don't make the best "team."
I feel like we just had this conversation and others like @Kcmatt7 @justanotherfan plus myself laid out why it's not as simple as saying KU can land any top 25-75 player if they want.
@BShark We did ... and we've had it for years. But no one has ever said that KU "can land any top 25-75 player if they want" with this approach.
What has been said is that if KU focused it's recruiting efforts in that general range, outside of presumed OAD, we'd have a better team that would better fit what Self desires, and we'd have more success in that range because we're not wasting our time with the top end presumed OADs. Nothing is perfect, and the stray targeted OAD for an open spot on the roster sometimes happens, including grad transfers. But if we get out of the presumed OAD game, I think there is a strong argument that our program will be better overall. It is obvious that in some years, not having that plug and play OAD might not be totally beneficial (folks have argued X in 2010, Wiggins in 2013). Clearly, Josh Jackson being here was a plus on the court. But in all three of those seasons, we got out of the first weekend once. The other presumed OADs have been complete disasters (Selby, Cliff, Diallo) ... the latter two I'd argue were because our coach was not enamored.
@HighEliteMajor agree with everything you said but the roster without Wiggins was a mess, esp when Embiid went down. Maybe if we saw that as a rebuilding year and invested in a multi year guy. Im behind that. At the time I think we were all behind the visibility of the #1 and #3 pick in draft for recruiting purposes. I wonder now if that mattered so much?
Well KU was the best team in the country the X year and he was one of the best 3 players on it. So I don't think that one can even be argued.
KU doesn't have enough data points for OADs. UK and Duke have had plenty of success with that model. The more you obtain, the more that turn out to be great players and the more that wash out. The baseline for talent is certainly higher, and Self is enamored with that so I doubt we see a change in approach. Six of the last seven signings were not presumed OADs but how much of that is Self just missing?
I won't argue that Self does his best work with multi year players. You could give him a bag of rocks and he'd probably make the tournament. I've lined out before the experience on his FF teams. How much of that is luck? How much of it is Self's approach to maximizing regular season results? I would argue, gun to their head most coaches would admit they coach to win every game. No coach has a magic elixir that lets them bypass some amount of regular season success for tournament success. Considering 2010 and 11 were some of Self's best teams, the best team in the country those years and they failed to even make the FF. Then he gets there in 2012 with a 6 player team (admittedly still a top 5 one) and in 2018 with a team that couldn't defend a lick. 2016 was another tight miss with a top team that happened to play the best team in the country in the EE. So 10 and 11 were more likely than 12 and 16 was more likely than 18. There is definitely a luck factor but as the 18 team showed it sure helps when you can shoot the crap out of the ball.
@HighEliteMajor The other problem with "OAD" is if "Johnny Top Recruit" happens to suck, Bill can't just bench him w/o massive criticism. Case in point...Q at times last year...
Hard to recruit guys to sit for two years. Believe what you want, but I'm telling you it is THE #1 most important factor. My little sister played D2 soccer instead of D1 soccer because she knew she'd get to start from day 1. My older sister transferred out of D1 softball to Community College after one semester because she wanted to play every single game. I was told by the 4 year colleges that I visited that I might not see the field, but the local CC was telling me I'd at least DH. So I went to CC first. (Before "retiring" and ending up in Lawrence).
Then consider this. A player like Grimes was never supposed to be a OAD when we first started recruiting him years ago. But then he blew up and others hyped him up outside of KU. You guys act like we just start recruiting guys 6 months out. But this is 2-3 years out where you're contacting most guys and seeing who is interested and then building that relationship. A guy could be 50th for the 2020 class right now and then explode this summer and end up 15th and have OAD expectations, but you've already built up the relationship for 2 years. Hard to all of a sudden tell them "you've actually gotten too good at basketball and we can't take you anymore."
Almost no one wants to sit. Look at Enaruna and Wilson both saying they want to play right away. Both are top 50 guys. Wilson literally said he's not going somewhere to sit, and that he wants to hoop. Even Frank and Devonte were getting solid tick as FR (Mason should have played even more over Tharpe). You have to go way down the rankings and even then it's hard to find guys willing to take a year (or worse two) off.
@Kcmatt7 Great point about how early recruiting starts. When KU offered Sam Williamson (Self pissing off his mom is gonna hurt), Bryce Thompson and Daishen Nix they were all basically unranked. Sam's other offers were schools like INCARNATE WORD. Of these three it looks like only Nix is blowing up to OAD status but all will end up top 50. Hell I remember being chided by a poster on another site for saying KU should offer and take Sam when he only had crap offers. The same poster later bemoaned the miss of a top 20 player.
Even Bryce is tracking on being a top 30ish guy in the new rankings. Dude has had an incredible spring. You go after the best fit for your roster. Period. Some guys like Ben just go supernova after a year and then you’re scrambling anyway. We don’t make the tournament without Wiggs in 2014.
@Kcmatt7 and @BShark make great points about recruiting being a long process. Because of that, you start watching these guys as middle schoolers, and start recruiting them as freshmen and sophomores in HS.
A kid that is the 30th or 40th best player in his class as a freshman in high school may flat out stop developing, at which point he may not even be a top 200 recruit as a junior. At that point its too late to get back into the running with guys that have gone from being unranked to high level, and that kid isn't P5 material at that point.
Once kids start growing and getting more athletic in HS, they really can take off.
For example, Cleveland State thought they had a pretty solid combo guard out of Chicago. Then that kid grew eight inches in a summer and turned into Anthony Davis as we know him. When KU started recruiting Joel Embiid he was hardly ranked in the top 100. Then he just exploded. Basically went from being a project to being a lottery pick in less than 24 months. On the other side of things, Zach Peters was a nice recruit for KU. Injuries kept him from ever playing a P5 level game.
Ochai Agbaji is another good example. He was barely a D1 recruit entering his senior year. He developed so quickly that KU was lucky to land him. Often, that type of player lands at a mid major instead because its their best offer. But for every kid that develops rapidly, there are ten others that peak and never improve.
@Kcmatt7 makes a tremendous point about playing time. We act like only higher ranked players want to play, but that is just not the case. EVERYBODY wants to play. College sports, unlike HS sports, is a lot of work. Putting in that kind of time and effort to sit on the bench is not something most people want to do. Especially if they are good enough to play somewhere else, whether that's dropping down from P5 to mid major, or from D1 to D2. I had a friend that went D2 because he knew that he would be playing as a freshman and likely starting as a sophomore. He was good enough to crack a D1 rotation, but it may have taken him two or three seasons to get serious minutes.
And regardless of saying you won't recruit over a player, the reality is that every year, you're recruiting over what you already have. Let's do a quick exercise:
Say this year your roster has two PG, two combo guards, three true wings, a combo forward and four post players. You have a junior PG and a freshman PG. You have a senior combo guard and a sophomore combo guard. Two of your wings are juniors. One is a sophomore. Your combo forward is a freshman. Two senior post players, a freshman and a sophomore. So your squad is perfectly balanced with three seniors, three juniors, three sophomores and three freshmen. You need to replace your three seniors. What do you recruit?
Obviously you're going to recruit at least one new post player because you have two senior post players. But you also have two young post players. If you recruit a new post player that comes in and is better than your two current players guess what, you have now recruited over your in house talent. And because you have two seniors, you will probably have to offer four or five post guys. You have to recruit guys that are good enough to play eventually, maybe even right now because you don't have a ton of depth inside.
On the perimeter, you're graduating a combo guard, so you have to go get another perimeter player, whether that's a PG, combo guard or a true wing player. But again, let's say you miss on your top combo guard targets, but there's a really good PG out there that wants to come to your school. Now your current freshman PG is not happy because he's stuck fighting this guy for a spot in the rotation and he's already (presumably) sitting behind your junior PG.
Saying you won't recruit over guys is impossible. Saying that you won't recruit over a certain level is impossible. KU recruits the top players because KU is a top school that can recruit the top players. If KU avoids recruiting those players, they risk missing out on more than just OADs.
HighEliteMajor said:
@Marco You said, "... fill out the rest of the roster with top 20 to 75 guys." Your point is one that I have discussed here on multiple occasions. I think it is a good one. I firmly believe that the key is that the coach has to make a commitment to the players outside of OAD range (up to a certain level) that he will never recruit over them with a presumed OAD. Committing to avoiding the presumed OAD is the key. That is completely realistic. It's as simple as doing it. Further, it would set a tenor for the program, it would free up a massive amount of time that was otherwise spent chasing the next Andrew Wiggins, and most of all, it would fit better with Bill Self as a coach. If a school like KU focuses on that range of recruits, I fail to see how we can't land a nice crop each season.
@BShark I think sometimes we confuse the "fielding the best team" with pursuing presumed OADs. I firmly believe presumed OADs don't make the best "team."
I totally agree.
I agree I think that KU needs to hurry up and offer Ty Berry, hes the best point guard in the Midwest.
alwaysajayhawk said:
I agree I think that KU needs to hurry up and offer Ty Berry, hes the best point guard in the Midwest.
I like Adam Miller better. And KU has Nix, Miller, Jalen Green, and Bryce Thompson above Berry on their board. Unless Berry improves a lot over the summer he’s not getting an offer until spring.
Have you seen Ty Berry play at all?
alwaysajayhawk said:
Have you seen Ty Berry play at all?
Personally, no. But I’ve gotten a lot of feedback from people who have. And those are KU’s thoughts. So take it up with Self if you think Berry is better than the guys I listed.
@alwaysajayhawk is he staying w/newton next year? Does he like the coach?
@FarmerJayhawk oh okay. The kid can flat out play though. I'm not saying that he is better than the kids that you named, but I will hate to see the best player in Kansas ( 2020 ) go out the state or to WSU or K state, that's all I'm saying
Marco said:
HighEliteMajor said:
@Marco You said, "... fill out the rest of the roster with top 20 to 75 guys." Your point is one that I have discussed here on multiple occasions. I think it is a good one. I firmly believe that the key is that the coach has to make a commitment to the players outside of OAD range (up to a certain level) that he will never recruit over them with a presumed OAD. Committing to avoiding the presumed OAD is the key. That is completely realistic. It's as simple as doing it. Further, it would set a tenor for the program, it would free up a massive amount of time that was otherwise spent chasing the next Andrew Wiggins, and most of all, it would fit better with Bill Self as a coach. If a school like KU focuses on that range of recruits, I fail to see how we can't land a nice crop each season.
@BShark I think sometimes we confuse the "fielding the best team" with pursuing presumed OADs. I firmly believe presumed OADs don't make the best "team."
I totally agree.
That is (prior recruiting whiffs aside) one of the things that I like most about this class, landing Braun, Enaruna and McBride. He locked those guys in, and now looks likely to also land Hampton and Wilson. Not too shabby - talent, depth, and (Hampton aside) four multi-year guys.
justanotherfan said:
Saying you won't recruit over guys is impossible. Saying that you won't recruit over a certain level is impossible. KU recruits the top players because KU is a top school that can recruit the top players. If KU avoids recruiting those players, they risk missing out on more than just OADs.
I actually just saw this. The point made contrary to this is promising a kid that you won’t recruit over him with a presumed OAD. It’s not that you won’t recruit over him. It’s just that you won’t bring in the one year (alleged) wonder like Wiggins to send him to the bench — the presumed OAD.
As is, recruits see a so-so player like Grimes PROMISED a starting spot. And a reasonable wonder is, will that happen to them their junior or senior season? Well it won’t outside of about 8-10 programs that get these drama queens. So that makes a program like KU less attractive.
Again, non-presumed OADs? Sure. But not presumed OAD that requires promises, as they all generally do.
That is the approach that would be key and helpful to landing more kids in the range discussed. If they knew that they would be able to compete and not face a guy PROMISED a starting spot, that would make KU much more attractive.
@HighEliteMajor It's a double edged sword. Don't offer a spot/minutes and you miss guys. Recruiting is a tough balance and there is a reason that it's always a handful of coaches/programs at the top with sustained excellence.
@FarmerJayhawk I can see the point of the staff on it. I really like all the guards you listed and have mentioned them before. But also in that post I don't see a ton of harm in offering and taking Berry early if he wants to be a Jayhawk. It really boils down to how many guards KU is going to need to take.
One last thing is that I think Self has been bitten more often than not with super early commitments in the past, these are ones I can remember...
Peters: development plateaued, some weird crap went down and eventually he quit basketball
Jacobs: development plateaued and also didn't really grow at all, got recruited over (McBride) before even enrolling and ended up at Depaul
Woolridge: not sure what the deal was here, but he wasn't good
Frankamp: not really B12 level
Brannen Greene: actually one of the most successful really early commits, which says a lot
So maybe Bill wants to mainly wait to take kids until they are SRs in HS.
@Crimsonorblue22 I haven't heard anything solid, but I'm hearing that he is thinking about going to prep school for his senior year
alwaysajayhawk said:
@Crimsonorblue22 I haven't heard anything solid, but I'm hearing that he is thinking about going to prep school for his senior year
I think this would be a really good idea. It's so hard to tell how good kids are against KS HS competition. Even fringe guys just crush it usually. Frankamp broke records iirc and he didn't even have a huge impact at WSU.
alwaysajayhawk said:
@Crimsonorblue22 I haven't heard anything solid, but I'm hearing that he is thinking about going to prep school for his senior year
I dig this move. I loooove KS HS sports (7 letters here!) but the level of competition is garbage.
@FarmerJayhawk IMG or Sunrise
BShark said:
@HighEliteMajor It's a double edged sword. Don't offer a spot/minutes and you miss guys. Recruiting is a tough balance and there is a reason that it's always a handful of coaches/programs at the top with sustained excellence.
@FarmerJayhawk I can see the point of the staff on it. I really like all the guards you listed and have mentioned them before. But also in that post I don't see a ton of harm in offering and taking Berry early if he wants to be a Jayhawk. It really boils down to how many guards KU is going to need to take.
One last thing is that I think Self has been bitten more often than not with super early commitments in the past, these are ones I can remember...
Peters: development plateaued, some weird crap went down and eventually he quit basketball
Jacobs: development plateaued and also didn't really grow at all, got recruited over (McBride) before even enrolling and ended up at Depaul
Woolridge: not sure what the deal was here, but he wasn't good
Frankamp: not really B12 level
Brannen Greene: actually one of the most successful really early commits, which says a lot
So maybe Bill wants to mainly wait to take kids until they are SRs in HS.
Berry is a keeper..... An in-state PG as good as he is needs to - even if we offered would he sign? That is how good he is - be a Jayhawk. Don't forget, though we would presumably (if he signs) not have Hampton we would still have McBride who like Berry I say is way underrated. That would be a great PG rotation, perhaps splitting time and getting equal minutes while pressuring the ball at both ends. I don't necessarily think that we should bypass recruiting players like Hampton or Grimes or Wiggins, but do know that signing an Enaruna or a Berry along the way is worth its weight in gold. We haven't really had any depth the past few seasons.
I definitely agree with that assessment, but I don't know if Berry is totally committed to KU either.
@Marco I need to see more of Berry. I think McBride can be a contributor eventually because his jump shot is elite. I just don't know yet if Berry appears to have any elite attributes. If anyone here has watched him play they would easily know more than the those of us that haven't.
Cunningham getting a lot of Okie St smoke. Wow.
Look out below!
FarmerJayhawk said:
Look out below!
Lol, you posted this about Walker/KU too and I'm not 100% sure what it means. :p
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Look out below!
Lol, you posted this about Walker/KU too and I'm not 100% sure what it means. :p
Bags are dropping!
I hope he goes to Okie Lite if not Kansas. dook and UK were on him like flies on shit
@FarmerJayhawk Ok that makes a lot of sense. It was more or less my assumption, but always good to clarify.
T mentioned K "w/e it takes to get him in Lawrence" T is running point on Walker, so uh...I think your math checks out there!
FarmerJayhawk said:
I hope he goes to Okie Lite if not Kansas. dook and UK were on him like flies on shit
Honestly wouldn't hate the Big 12 becoming completely badass. KU would still make the tournament and the tougher league could help development.
BShark said:
@FarmerJayhawk Ok that makes a lot of sense. It was more or less my assumption, but always good to clarify.
T mentioned K "w/e it takes to get him in Lawrence" T is running point on Walker, so uh...I think your math checks out there!
Oh yes. Adidas would love to keep Walker in the family. I've heard Todd's recruitment is not exactly above board, being in Raleigh and all. UNC isn't really competing that hard for him. I have a hard time thinking he'll go anywhere that can't make it worth his while.
Theory: Nike knows it is under the microscope so now it has to spread the love around a little more and not just Duke, UK, UNC, Oregon, and LSU....
Made Cunningham’s top 10. I think we’re in the top tier.
2021 daron Holmes has been offered by ku
FarmerJayhawk said:
Made Cunningham’s top 10. I think we’re in the top tier.
What's your thoughts on Oklahoma St? What's driving that, connections or cash
FarmerJayhawk said:
Made Cunningham’s top 10. I think we’re in the top tier.
The school are Duke uk Kansas unc Memphis Oklahoma state Washington Virginia Texas Florida
BeddieKU23 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Made Cunningham’s top 10. I think we’re in the top tier.
What's your thoughts on Oklahoma St? What's driving that, connections or cash
Some of both. He’s a Texas kid so I can see the appeal of playing close to home.
FarmerJayhawk said:
BeddieKU23 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Made Cunningham’s top 10. I think we’re in the top tier.
What's your thoughts on Oklahoma St? What's driving that, connections or cash
Some of both. He’s a Texas kid so I can see the appeal of playing close to home.
I'm just surprised that's an actual school hes considering behind the scenes. I never gave it thought he wasnt going anywhere but a blue blood so this is surprising
looooooooooool
So Question , wondering what would be so wrong with us trying to get back involved with Zach Harvey? - -kid from Topeka/well was from Topeka. - He had that incident with pics and sending texts or something - but that's all over with now right? - What would be so wrong with trying to pick that back up again # 39 in the class of 2020 -- just curious. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
jayballer73 said:
So Question , wondering what would be so wrong with us trying to get back involved with Zach Harvey? - -kid from Topeka/well was from Topeka. - He had that incident with pics and sending texts or something - but that's all over with now right? - What would be so wrong with trying to pick that back up again # 39 in the class of 2020 -- just curious. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I THINK WE ARE NOT IN THE PIC WITH HIM NOMORE
Reminder: 2020 unlike 18 and 19 is a LOADED class. Let's make it a big one Bill.
Yes ,you are right 2020 is definitely a loaded class, lots of talent
Sounds like Okie Lite is going to hire Cade Cunningham’s brother as an assistant. 🔒🔒🔒
@FarmerJayhawk that stinks! For a year?
FarmerJayhawk said:
Sounds like Okie Lite is going to hire Cade Cunningham’s brother as an assistant. 🔒🔒🔒
rofl
KU has recently offered and looks to be recruiting Top 50 PG Karim Mane of Canada. A 6'5 PG might fit the combo mold Self likes to recruit. Will be one to monitor
BeddieKU23 said:
KU has recently offered and looks to be recruiting Top 50 PG Karim Mane of Canada. A 6'5 PG might fit the combo mold Self likes to recruit. Will be one to monitor
Yes please.
Edit: He seems genuinely interested.
https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Basketball/RecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool ↗
New 2020 player rankings. Bryce Thompson jumped all the way up to #19!! Jumped 70 spots.
Yeah Bryce is definitely a hooper
Really seems like he made that jump from last yr. I think showing he can play PG with his scoring ability has changed his ceiling
Who thought that Thompson would jump that high? I sure the hell didn't. But I have always liked Thompson and hope that we can sign him, maybe get him, Berry and a guy like Xavier Foster come November - get 'em wrapped early. Going to be real tough - if not close to impossible - to get Foster out of Iowa, though.
Isaiah Cottrell, Kyree Walker, Bryce Thompson and Ty Berry? I'd take that in a heartbeat. If that class were to somehow fall in place we would still need one more big.
If Duke came calling, Foster would teleport out of Iowa.
BShark said:
If Duke came calling, Foster would teleport out of Iowa.
You're right.
Woodrow said:
https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Basketball/RecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool ↗
New 2020 player rankings. Bryce Thompson jumped all the way up to #19!! Jumped 70 spots.
Interesting list. They still have Harvey 80% percent KU lean.
@Marco I wouldn't put any stock into those %. Those are based off of people's picks. What happens is people go in and log a pick and might have been a year ago and then a school stops recruiting him and people don't change their picks. Those % are worthless until about a month or so before someone announces.
Woodrow said:
@Marco I wouldn't put any stock into those %. Those are based off of people's picks. What happens is people go in and log a pick and might have been a year ago and then a school stops recruiting him and people don't change their picks. Those % are worthless until about a month or so before someone announces.
the only way those% change is if someone makes another prediction - -these picks are suppose to be coming from people that follow these kids around the circuts - talk to them almost daily - and some of these guys just follow another lead - about the only legit one's I pay attention to is Evan Daniels - - Jerry Meyer - - & Eric Bossi - - & Andrew slater - they are usually pretty legit - -the rest just usually piggy back off those 4
What do you guys think of Isaiah Cottrell? Seems, if we sign him, to be an immediate contributor - not a star - who will work hard.
Marco said:
What do you guys think of Isaiah Cottrell? Seems, if we sign him, to be an immediate contributor - not a star - who will work hard.
Program guy. Going to need more in that class. Dream 2020 class, assuming Dotson and Silvio go pro, and we land Wilson, Walker, and Bilau: Daishen Nix, Makur Maker, and Bryce Thompson. So the starting lineup would look something like Nix, Walker, Agbaji, Wilson, Maker. That team could play stupid, stupid fast.
@FarmerJayhawk That is one hefty recruiting class. If we signed all five of those guys you certainly wouldn't hear me bitching, Lol
@FarmerJayhawk Maker at the 5, Bilau 4, Walker a 3, Nix the 1 and Thompson the 2 - not too shabby..!
Speaking of a loaded class. 🐦 View Tweet?s=21
FarmerJayhawk said:
Speaking of a loaded class. 🐦 View Tweet?s=21
How good is he? Didn't think we were on him that heavy. That is, until now. I think our 2020 class is going to be loaded. Alot of great depth in that class overall from top to bottom. A team could sign 5 players at the bottom of that list and stiil have themselves a great recruiting class.
Marco said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Speaking of a loaded class. 🐦 View Tweet?s=21
How good is he? Didn't think we were on him that heavy.
Really talented kid. Plus athlete, really good scorer. I don’t think he can run the point full time yet, but he’d be a nice complement to Nix, who’s more of a traditional PG. Self would love him. He’s a terrific penetrator and has a really good handle. His jumper is streaky but some of that is probably just from his lack of a good S&C program.
@FarmerJayhawk kind of like Sherron Collins but bigger?
Marco said:
@FarmerJayhawk kind of like Sherron Collins but bigger?
Bigger vertically but much smaller horizontally 😂😂
@FarmerJayhawk Can't see Maker playing in college.
BShark said:
@FarmerJayhawk Can't see Maker playing in college.
I concur. Won’t stop Self from recruiting him though.
ku has offer five-star jr caleb love on his unofficial visit today
Isiah Cottrell is trending to West Virginia. Wonder what that's about
@BeddieKU23 Money probably. But he has ties to every main contending school on his list except KU. I believe he is from the WVU area originally. Still has family there.
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Money probably. But he has ties to every main contending school on his list except KU. I believe he is from the WVU area originally. Still has family there.
Thx I didn't dig to find if he visited or anything. Would be a quality signing for them if he does go there
@BeddieKU23 I know KU was in there pretty good and I was hoping he would be a Jayhawk. Still pretty early but obviously something cause that CB train.
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 I know KU was in there pretty good and I was hoping he would be a Jayhawk. Still pretty early but obviously something cause that CB train.
I agree he would have been a solid option for KU as well. We know we are going to need bigs.
Bryce Thompson will be in LFK next week.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Bryce Thompson will be in LFK next week.
Lock him up Bill.
I think we have a great shot there. KU, OU, UNC his top 3. He'll be a fall signee
Great news
@FarmerJayhawk I tried to figure out what LFK meant for like a minute before finally giving up and searching the acronym via google. Maybe it's because you seem wholesome, and swearing doesn't bother me at all, but I was not expecting it to be what it was, even though it was very obvious.
Anyway... carry on.
So , from my perspective it looks like we are finally wrapping up out 2019 recruiting -should be finished tomorrow afternoon. - So , with that being said I wanted to put out my early Christmas wish for 2020 hoping we don't have so many misses like this year and we can get started - we are getting a late start although know we have been recruiting some for it also. - -So here is my wants - would love to have - -thinking we will need PG ,SG , SF ,and Bigs - Sooo:
As for PG wants in order they would be : Nix - - / Love
As for CG wants in order they would be : Thompson- - / Mane- -OR you could flip - - can't lose
As for SF wants in order they would be : Walker ( yes please ) - - / Abdur- Rahem
As for BIGS wants in order would be : ( Greg Brown - - Please , Please yes )- - / Todd ( - would love to get him for sure , but just don't think it's going to happen
Welp their is my requests for 2020 - I've been really good this year - -soooo if their IS a Santa - -you got my list lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
No shot at Brown
@jayballer73 we still have 2schollies open and only Jalen on radar to commit tomorrow right?
BShark said:
No shot at Brow
No shot at Todd - - - here we go again
approxinfinity said:
@jayballer73 we still have 2schollies open and only Jalen on radar to commit tomorrow right?
right. - -for 2019 you are right. - -I'm talking 2020 though these are my wishes
jayballer73 said:
BShark said:
No shot at Brow
No shot at Todd - - - here we go again
I mean it. Nike won't let it happen lol.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
@FarmerJayhawk I tried to figure out what LFK meant for like a minute before finally giving up and searching the acronym via google. Maybe it's because you seem wholesome, and swearing doesn't bother me at all, but I was not expecting it to be what it was, even though it was very obvious.
Anyway... carry on.
Ha! IRL I swear all the time. Family message board 😂
jayballer73 said:
BShark said:
No shot at Brow
No shot at Todd - - - here we go again
KU can get Todd IMO. Long way to go though.
FarmerJayhawk said:
jayballer73 said:
BShark said:
No shot at Brow
No shot at Todd - - - here we go again
KU can get Todd IMO. Long way to go though.
GOOOO ADIDAS.
Ryan confirmed on Brown on the phog just now. UNC, Texas or Memphis apparently. SWOOSH.
FarmerJayhawk said:
jayballer73 said:
BShark said:
No shot at Brow
No shot at Todd - - - here we go again
KU can get Todd IMO. Long way to go though.
He has North Carolina written all over him
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
jayballer73 said:
BShark said:
No shot at Brow
No shot at Todd - - - here we go again
KU can get Todd IMO. Long way to go though.
He has North Carolina written all over him
I don’t think so. He’s a Raleigh kid. I don’t think he stays in NC. At least UNC peeps don’t think so.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Bryce Thompson will be in LFK next week.
Rock Chalk, baby!!
@approxinfinity only one after Wilson. Moss has a financial aid package, at present, but once the season starts he'll be given a scholarship.
Cottrell announcing for WVU today. Thi$ moved fa$t.
BShark said:
Cottrell announcing for WVU today. Thi$ moved fa$t.
You are not kidding. At least a talent will be coming to the conference it looks
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
Cottrell announcing for WVU today. Thi$ moved fa$t.
You are not kidding. At least a talent will be coming to the conference it looks
Yep, I'm all for the league being better.
KSU and Baylor added guys recently as well.
With Cottrell, he isn't a guy we would have wanted starting next year but has long term potential to be quite good.
Agree I think he's a bit limited at the moment but with Development your looking at a solid P5 post player. I think KU can get someone a little more versatile and maybe ready to contribute earlier but that remains to be seen what will be available, interested, and will fit.
@BeddieKU23 Yeah he's very springy and can immediately contribute on D. Offense at this stage is just garbage man stuff though.
Walker updates where his crootment is at. VIP and a video. Good stuff actually.
@BShark Indeed. Time for the NCAA to acknowledge - as I have - that these guys (damn near all of the highly rated ones) are getting paid. The genie will not and cannot go back in the bottle.... Hell, even the Olympics caved to that reality years ago.
Are there still student athletes? Yes (as this year's class affirms, and I am all onboard - keep recruiting them!), but there are alot of tweeners who find themselves just at the cusp of being almost NBA ready who demand to have something while getting ready for the next stage. Getting rid of the OAD Rule will not solve the problem, if one even exists.
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
Cottrell announcing for WVU today. Thi$ moved fa$t.
You are not kidding. At least a talent will be coming to the conference it looks
you know - -I think Huggy is going to be fine. - - - -he has ALOT - -and I mean ALOT of players being told to hit the door 0R transfer last year. - Made the players he did have left grow up gain experience fast. - He has a couple of nice pieces from last year. - -he had that guard , can't remember his name and then the big guy right?
Think that is going to help him this year, I kinda like Huggy a little bit but let's not go over board - I just think he might surprise a little this year. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer73 Agree with ya brother. As long as Huggins is there, WVU will compete in the league. Huggins like Self and Dixon coaches HARD. Sometimes that rubs kids the wrong way, and you have to do a purge.
Notice, we purged a bit too, but kept the good ones. I'm guessing Bill wasn't too sad about Q and Charlie transferring out, ya diggggg?
@jayballer73 I'm a Huggy fan.
I remember a few years back when we played WVU and Huggy gave Self one of those overly large polos to wear for the game so they match and Self said thanks but I’ll keep my suit and tie.
I do like Huggins though. He’s a good one to have in the conference
BShark said:
@jayballer73 Agree with ya brother. As long as Huggins is there, WVU will compete in the league. Huggins like Self and Dixon coaches HARD. Sometimes that rubs kids the wrong way, and you have to do a purge.
Notice, we purged a bit too, but kept the good ones. I'm guessing Bill wasn't too sad about Q and Charlie transferring out, ya diggggg?
for sure - - Im'a digging - - like you said I think Huggy for sure pulls no punches, I think as a player one of two things - no in between -either you would love Huggy as a Coach - - OR you hate him - -hard nose - but pretty decent at what he does. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Marco said:
@jayballer73 I'm a Huggy fan.
YA I respect the guy , dry as dry can be humor goes but pretty god Coach - -always brings it -he is gonna be ok
rockchalkwyo said:
I remember a few years back when we played WVU and Huggy gave Self one of those overly large polos to wear for the game so they match and Self said thanks but I’ll keep my suit and tie.
I do like Huggins though. He’s a good one to have in the conference
yes he is - good for the Conference - glad he is in Conference
Huh, ummm you smell that? - - coming out of Stillwater Okla. - smells like some Grants - - Hamiltons - - -ya smell it? - Cade Cunningham ? - OSU - -Over Duke - - Kentucky - - Florida - - KU -- yep smells fresh - -SERIOUSLY?
Cottrell - - -WV? - ok is it me OR - - - - - -- - -IS IT A huge WTF? - what's wrong with these pictures?
@jayballer73 Another reason why I say we won't get anything amounting to diddly crap from the communists in KC (I think that is where they're headquarted).
https://247sports.com/Player/Andre-Curbelo-46043229/ ↗
Norm reached out.
BShark said:
https://247sports.com/Player/Andre-Curbelo-46043229/ ↗
Norm reached out.
Tiny little fella
Kcmatt7 said:
BShark said:
https://247sports.com/Player/Andre-Curbelo-46043229/ ↗
Norm reached out.
Tiny little fella
The kind of electric player that you get to keep longer than you should because of his height. :sunglasses:
BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
BShark said:
https://247sports.com/Player/Andre-Curbelo-46043229/ ↗
Norm reached out.
Tiny little fella
The kind of electric player that you get to keep longer than you should because of his height. :sunglasses:
Hell of a passer... I worry about his size and athleticism at this level, but he definitely looks like he has that special feel for the game.
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KU casts a wide net and this kid hasn't been offered yet. I doubt he would be a take over the guard targets I have mentioned previously.
Nix is generally considered option #1 right on the board?? Still trying to get a feel of where his interest is in KU in relation to others
@BeddieKU23 Nix's recruitment is "wide open" currently.
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Nix's recruitment is "wide open" currently.
Thanks I haven't kept up to date on him. I know he's had a good spring/early summer so far. Figured he'd be a big commodity out there. Hopefully KU keeps pushing forward on him
Not sure if this was posted, but Bryce Thompson is taking a unofficial visit to UNC this week I believe and then is supposed to come to Lawrence. Wouldn't be surprised if it isn't us and UNC fighting for him until the end.
Woodrow said:
Not sure if this was posted, but Bryce Thompson is taking a unofficial visit to UNC this week I believe and then is supposed to come to Lawrence. Wouldn't be surprised if it isn't us and UNC fighting for him until the end.
Definitely feels that way. Let's go two in a row beating UNC for recruits!
BeddieKU23 said:
Nix is generally considered option #1 right on the board?? Still trying to get a feel of where his interest is in KU in relation to others
I think they want 2 of Nix, Love, and Thompson. I feel the best about Thompson today, then Nix, then Love. Could see us locking Thompson down at Late Night or whereabouts. Nix and Love might be spring guys.
@FarmerJayhawk Full court press for Thompson imo.
Yup. The thought is he's more of a 2, Nix a pure PG and they could coexist wonderfully.
@FarmerJayhawk would love for us to sign Thompson at Late Night. A Thompson and Nix backcourt, I'd take that.
Sounds like he will be a Tarhole.
BShark said:
Sounds like he will be a Tarhole.
Probably ends up staying there 4 years too
did they Illuminatingly place a bag of "stuff" in his go bag.
If he doesn't visit KU after this we know the deal
BeddieKU23 said:
did they Illuminatingly place a bag of "stuff" in his go bag.
If he doesn't visit KU after this we know the deal
Exactly. Hopefully KU still gets a shot.
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
did they Illuminatingly place a bag of "stuff" in his go bag.
If he doesn't visit KU after this we know the deal
Exactly. Hopefully KU still gets a shot.
They will
OK saw off the Phog - -talking about top 247 guard set to visit Kansas - need your help - -is that Thompson?
@jayballer73 Man, I hope. Last I heard there was some kind of scheduling conflict.
Marco said:
@jayballer73 Man, I hope. Last I heard there was some kind of scheduling conflict.
He's making it this weekend. Gotta hit a HR.
Marco said:
@jayballer73 Man, I hope. Last I heard there was some kind of scheduling conflict.
not sure buddy, - all I know off the phog titles it had 5 star top 247 I think said combo guard sit to visit Ku - -the story was under VIP so couldn't read it - hope it is. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer73 @BShark Just said that it is, indeed, Thompson. Need to hit a grand slam!
Marco said:
@jayballer73 @BShark Just said that it is, indeed, Thompson. Need to hit a grand slam!
Cool - -wasn't really sure?
I want to see Thompson ball at KU. I have a good feeling about this one guys.
Have to counter that UNC visit. Big weekend
@BeddieKU23 he didn’t come, did he?
@Crimsonorblue22 he is. Probably having fun with his friend Mayberry. Close this one Bill.
BShark said:
https://247sports.com/Player/KK-Robinson-46083970/ ↗
:eyes:
He averaged 17.5 points per game and shot almost 44 percent from three on the EYBL circuit this spring. Nike battle
@BeddieKU23 Eh, never know.
KU just offered: https://247sports.com/Player/Dawson-Garcia-46050093/ ↗
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Eh, never know.
KU just offered: https://247sports.com/Player/Dawson-Garcia-46050093/ ↗
WANT. Similar player to Xavier Foster.
Yup, not only want he's a major NEED
@FarmerJayhawk Looks like a beast to me, pogo stick. Appears to be Adidas for now, I like our chances against Marquette and Indiana if that holds.
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Eh, never know.
KU just offered: https://247sports.com/Player/Dawson-Garcia-46050093/ ↗
Right we don't. We have some positive momentum at least with Enaruan/Wilson/White recently.
Big need on the big we just offered. Let's see where that one goes. Have no clue which way he might be leaning
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Eh, never know.
KU just offered: https://247sports.com/Player/Dawson-Garcia-46050093/ ↗
Surprised Duke isn't involved considering the success they've had with Minnesota kids recently.
@BeddieKU23 The main hope would be that he is close to McBride. If there is a shoe thing and he wants KU, then it wouldn't be hard to get him switched. We see it happen all the time when a kid wants a school but people involved also want to get paid.
Texas Hawk 10 said:
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Eh, never know.
KU just offered: https://247sports.com/Player/Dawson-Garcia-46050093/ ↗
Surprised Duke isn't involved considering the success they've had with Minnesota kids recently.
Duke comes in and gets players whenever they want, they don't have to be involved early. I'm sure if they have to move down their want list, they could get involved.
@BeddieKU23 They definitely know each other, how deep it goes idk.
Not KU but Baylor has been cleaning up in 2020 recruiting so far. Already signed a Top 100 PG. Just signed a Top 50 Center. Two sit out transfers as well. Drew doing his thing.
@BeddieKU23 Recruit well, get swept by Bill. Rinse repeat.
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Recruit well, get swept by Bill. Rinse repeat.
Right now 2020-21 season, Oklahoma & Baylor look to have salty rosters if majority stay in place.
Baylor is full up on scholarships for 2 years right now. Obviously won't last but its interesting strategy
@Crimsonorblue22 it went well. I think he'll be back in the fall for an official.
@BShark I'm pretty high on Xavier Foster, but if we can get this guy (who I've never heard of but seems to be a baller) I would be very happy. Is it just me or has there been a KU recruiting shift, concentrating mostly on four stars rather than a boatload of fives? I think there has been, and I'm all in.
I'd take either one for sure.
Marco said:
@BShark I'm pretty high on Xavier Foster, but if we can get this guy (who I've never heard of but seems to be a baller) I would be very happy. Is it just me or has there been a KU recruiting shift, concentrating mostly on four stars rather than a boatload of fives? I think there has been, and I'm all in.
Nope. KU is still recruiting the burger boys as hard as ever.
Okie St officially hired Cannen Cunningham who is the older brother of Cade. I know that had been rumored, but made official today.
Woodrow said:
Okie St officially hired Cannen Cunningham who is the older brother of Cade. I know that had been rumored, but made official today.
Strong move. Safe to not invest any more time into Cade for the staff.
Another bs move, he will be fired the yr he leaves or at the point he picks Kentucky
Ronnie Chalmers is chuckling ...
BeddieKU23 said:
Another bs move, he will be fired the yr he leaves or at the point he picks Kentucky
Enh, I am pro this move. Anyone know if Xavier Foster's dad can coach?
HighEliteMajor said:
Ronnie Chalmers is chuckling ...
We got in right on time there.
Anyone remember us hiring Danny Manning's Dad- when he was truck driving?
Well played, Mr. Boynton. I continue to be one of your fans.
BShark said:
Woodrow said:
Okie St officially hired Cannen Cunningham who is the older brother of Cade. I know that had been rumored, but made official today.
Strong move. Safe to not invest any more time into Cade for the staff.
Fans as well.
These moves rarely end up paying off for the coaches, fans alike. Porter and Methzu is a great example recently.
Maybe his bro is a good coach and deserves the chance. Cunningham is a sure-fire OAD so its not a huge impact long term
I want OSU to be good and relevant. It's good for the Big 12, which is good for us.
@BeddieKU23 There hasn't been much more of a complete disaster than the Porters at MU. It's perfectly "MU."
HighEliteMajor said:
I want OSU to be good and relevant. It's good for the Big 12, which is good for us.
@BeddieKU23 There hasn't been much more of a complete disaster than the Porters at MU. It's perfectly "MU."
I wouldnt' call it a "disaster." The hype sort of sparked that program from the cellar back to mediocrity.
Kcmatt7 said:
HighEliteMajor said:
I want OSU to be good and relevant. It's good for the Big 12, which is good for us.
@BeddieKU23 There hasn't been much more of a complete disaster than the Porters at MU. It's perfectly "MU."
I wouldnt' call it a "disaster." The hype sort of sparked that program from the cellar back to mediocrity.
Back from "Kim Anderson" to normal Miz levels.
OSU isn't exactly a recruiting powerhouse so I don't fault them for doing whatever they need to do to land big-time recruits. They're playing by the rules. The Big 12 could use good players anyway.
KU likes this guy. A LOT. https://247sports.com/Player/Mady-Sissoko-46051902/ ↗
Also was Enaruna’s teammate. Can’t hurt if he likes it at KU.
When I watched Enaruna's HS team Sissoko stood out. Athletic rim runner with good size. He's a catch and 1 move guy at best, rebound put-back, lob/dunk post player. Pretty similar to how Azubuike and Diallo were coming to KU. He's the type of post Self lands.
Read where N'Faly Dante is visiting Kentucky this Summer and still may reclassify. I know he isn't going to KU, but that would be a HUGE boost for UK if they got him for next year...
Honestly I doubt Dante goes to college. Overseas is a real option and there's some question as to whether he'll qualify.
Do you say in a runa or e naruna?
FarmerJayhawk said:
KU likes this guy. A LOT. https://247sports.com/Player/Mady-Sissoko-46051902/ ↗
Also was Enaruna’s teammate. Can’t hurt if he likes it at KU.
Good, good
@FarmerJayhawk I heard he can't speak English well enough to pass act.
@Crimsonorblue22 I don't know anything about that but it seems very weird that the ACT and SAT are only in English. Not a fan.
@FarmerJayhawk I think armchair Kansas said that.
Also, happy Bryce Thompson day! I ran with some info I got earlier about him visiting last week which turned out to be inaccurate. My bad.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Also, happy Bryce Thompson day! I ran with some info I got earlier about him visiting last week which turned out to be inaccurate. My bad.
Did he not visit last week and you mean he's on campus now?
@BeddieKU23 He is coming tomorrow
Crap, today is just Wednesday. Long week.
No wonder we didn’t hear much.
I heard that Ty Berry was on campus today for an unofficial
@FarmerJayhawk I mean, let's be real, they are supposed to be taking classes (though in reality many of them are not) in American universities, right? What, do teachers need to be bi, tri or quad-lingual? And if not, why should the tests be in anything other than English?
@FarmerJayhawk Maybe so.... But the exams are in English, as they should be.
Why though? The US doesn't have an official language so I see no issue with translating the tests.
BShark said:
Why though? The US doesn't have an official language so I see no issue with translating the tests.
Also, knowledge of a 2nd language doesn’t mean one is intelligent or stupid.
If they would “pass” the test in their native language it means they should qualify for college.
@BShark Probably because the courses are done in English, and if they can't pass the exams then that pretty much means that they (though many athletes are not really there to study) will not be able to follow said courses, let alone learn much. Which would throw the whole scam into question, now wouldn't it?
@Crimsonorblue22 And he passed the exams, right?
That's why we have interpreters, tutors. I'm not sure if you can't have somebody read the test for you.
Marco said:
@Crimsonorblue22 And he passed the exams, right?
Svi might have taken the TOEFL instead.
Another to keep an eye on https://247sports.com/Player/Lance-Ware-46048036/ ↗
@FarmerJayhawk odd profile for top 50 kid. Recruiting just picking up for him?
Profile claims 6'9''
Late riser kind of kid. Not sure how much interest KU has right this second but Self will be on him this summer to evaluate.
Big kid, definitely not a wing. Room to grow into that frame of his. He is a 4 man. Will be interesting to see how this one goes. My buddy knows of him as he has some NJ connections, I'll ask what he knows
FarmerJayhawk said:
Late riser kind of kid. Not sure how much interest KU has right this second but Self will be on him this summer to evaluate.
Poking around it seems like he is Louisville's to lose.
Bryce Thompson had a great time on his visit to ku today
New offer. We’re probably going to need a wing. https://247sports.com/Player/CamRon-Fletcher-46048763/ ↗
FarmerJayhawk said:
New offer. We’re probably going to need a wing. https://247sports.com/Player/CamRon-Fletcher-46048763/ ↗
Well looking at his top 5 schools at the present - - looks like he is at least possibly interested in staying close as he list both Missouri & K-state in his top 5 - -Soo we get involved who knows might be a sweet addition.
My 2 BIG hopes for 2020 right now at the present time - - - Kyree - always have wanted him - -and Bryce - those are at the top of my list - that would be awesome
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
New offer. We’re probably going to need a wing. https://247sports.com/Player/CamRon-Fletcher-46048763/ ↗
Well looking at his top 5 schools at the present - - looks like he is at least possibly interested in staying close as he list both Missouri & K-state in his top 5 - -Soo we get involved who knows might be a sweet addition.
My 2 BIG hopes for 2020 right now at the present time - - - Kyree - always have wanted him - -and Bryce - those are at the top of my list - that would be awesome
I would definitely take those two, have been high on Bryce for awhile. I think we'll have ourselves a very solid class in 2020.
Marco said:
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
New offer. We’re probably going to need a wing. https://247sports.com/Player/CamRon-Fletcher-46048763/ ↗
Well looking at his top 5 schools at the present - - looks like he is at least possibly interested in staying close as he list both Missouri & K-state in his top 5 - -Soo we get involved who knows might be a sweet addition.
My 2 BIG hopes for 2020 right now at the present time - - - Kyree - always have wanted him - -and Bryce - those are at the top of my list - that would be awesome
I would definitely take those two, have been high on Bryce for awhile. I think we'll have ourselves a very solid class in 2020.
Not sure as far as bigs - -where we at - -who were on in 2020 you know or heard of any? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer73 I'm going to have to do some checking on that. I was hoping for Foster, but that isn't happening.
Pg r.j.davis, class of 2020 has picked up a offer from ku
21 @camronfletcher1 9h
Class of 2020
Blessed to receive an offer from the university of Kansas 🙏
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
Pg r.j.davis, class of 2020 has picked up a offer from ku
ya KU has offered. - -So far has offers from Marquette , Indiana , UCLA , Pitt - -& now KU. - - North Carolina interested - Herbert Davis was watching him the other day - -no offer yet - - Villanova interested - -no offer yet - - -visited G'Town
Currently ranked at # 86 - - by rivals - -pretty sure will be moving up as he getting more and more interest. - -Much rather have Dix - or hell even Love would be nice. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I think theres a half dozen or so guards higher on the list. We know they are extending plenty of offers to those they like or those they hope have some interest
Think we could get RJ Davis.
@BeddieKU23 thinking we don't get Nix. Depends how many guards we need. If we need just two I'd love for it to be Thompson and Mane. Think Davis is very realistic and obtainable though. Could live with Thompson and Davis.
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 thinking we don't get Nix. Depends how many guards we need. If we need just two I'd love for it to be Thompson and Mane. Think Davis is very realistic and obtainable though. Could live with Thompson and Davis.
I agree to an extent. I want Thompson for sure and I think he is someone that could really pair well with McBride due to his bigger size and skill.
Davis with McBride isnt a big enough backcourt imo. I dont see Davis a starter at KU or a difference maker at that size and average athletic ability at best.
Mane mentioned KU as one of the 4 schools showing the most interest. I really liked his video. All the combo guard intangibles and he is a plus athlete. That kid has NBA potential at his size as a pro PG
Heard from my friend about Lance Ware. Probably late to that party but didnt get any negative info about him either. He is a post player and the video makes that apparent. Plenty of 6'7 types have success in the post with the right frame and he looks to have that frame to play the 4
@BeddieKU23 Louisville the front runner?
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 thinking we don't get Nix. Depends how many guards we need. If we need just two I'd love for it to be Thompson and Mane. Think Davis is very realistic and obtainable though. Could live with Thompson and Davis.
I agree to an extent. I want Thompson for sure and I think he is someone that could really pair well with McBride due to his bigger size and skill.
Davis with McBride isnt a big enough backcourt imo. I dont see Davis a starter at KU or a difference maker at that size and average athletic ability at best.
Mane mentioned KU as one of the 4 schools showing the most interest. I really liked his video. All the combo guard intangibles and he is a plus athlete. That kid has NBA potential at his size as a pro PG
Yeah I really like Mane as well and hope he is prioritized.
From Bossi, “Why he's rising: Harris originally signed with Missouri State in the class of 2019, and he could have been a potential player of the year in the Missouri Valley. The guy is just a leader. He wins a lot of games and makes everybody around him better.
Current recruitment: Schools are just figuring out that Harris has gotten his release from Missouri State. Expect high-major offers to flood in during July.”
@FarmerJayhawk well...well...do tell....
I also think there’s a chance he reclassifies back to 2019 later this summer and we RS him.
Wow. I found this ...me likey....:
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So like, I mean, he pinned the KU offer tweet. Seems dece.
Didn't really see a lot here that just gave me that Wow factor - -nothing special , a lot of lay ups. - -only seen a couple of out side J's he is decent from this tape but nothing that blows me away.
jayballer73 said:
Didn't really see a lot here that just gave me that Wow factor - -nothing special , a lot of lay ups. - -only seen a couple of out side J's he is decent from this tape but nothing that blows me away.
He's a guy you redshirt that is a pain in the ass for other teams as a JR/SR. Also friends with Braun I believe.
FarmerJayhawk said:
I also think there’s a chance he reclassifies back to 2019 later this summer and we RS him.
Later this summer meaning next week from the looks of it. :eyes:
Highlights are unimpressive. Below the rim player, short, not long, no stroke. McBride without a shot or a short Garrett without the D? I’m hopeful the video was just poorly done.
Video posted here was from last March.
To me, he looks like he has decent arm length for his size. He finishes well in the lane with both hands. He absolutely can jump. In one of the newer videos he dunks from almost being flat footed.
I'd also rather get another PG in here now instead of hoping we land a big name next season and end up settling for someone almost exactly like him to be the backup next year. Get someone in now that can learn the system for a full season. Who's to say he won't push McBride out of the backup role? AND literally the worst case scenario is that he gets here, realizes he doesn't belong, and transfers out. This is a no lose situation from my point of view.
Sounds like 2019 is the plan, and he'll likely redshirt unless he pulls an Ochai and goes nuts.
Kcmatt7 said:
Video posted here was from last March.
To me, he looks like he has decent arm length for his size. He finishes well in the lane with both hands. He absolutely can jump. In one of the newer videos he dunks from almost being flat footed.
I'd also rather get another PG in here now instead of hoping we land a big name next season and end up settling for someone almost exactly like him to be the backup next year. Get someone in now that can learn the system for a full season. Who's to say he won't push McBride out of the backup role? AND literally the worst case scenario is that he gets here, realizes he doesn't belong, and transfers out. This is a no lose situation from my point of view.
You really hit on the knoggin here. No risk. Get the guy in if he wants and see what he's made of. In today's landscape if he doesn't fit he'll move on
Oh this is a fun one.
Walker denies interest in playing overseas this year but we all know how denials go. Probably a lot of truth to him not having the grades to stay home and enroll somewhere.
BeddieKU23 said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Video posted here was from last March.
To me, he looks like he has decent arm length for his size. He finishes well in the lane with both hands. He absolutely can jump. In one of the newer videos he dunks from almost being flat footed.
I'd also rather get another PG in here now instead of hoping we land a big name next season and end up settling for someone almost exactly like him to be the backup next year. Get someone in now that can learn the system for a full season. Who's to say he won't push McBride out of the backup role? AND literally the worst case scenario is that he gets here, realizes he doesn't belong, and transfers out. This is a no lose situation from my point of view.
You really hit on the knoggin here. No risk. Get the guy in if he wants and see what he's made of. In today's landscape if he doesn't fit he'll move on
The word you always see on him is "tough", "leader" and "winner". Makes others better etc...
BeddieKU23 said:
Oh this is a fun one.
Walker denies interest in playing overseas this year but we all know how denials go. Probably a lot of truth to him not having the grades to stay home and enroll somewhere.
So done with him already. W/e
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Video posted here was from last March.
To me, he looks like he has decent arm length for his size. He finishes well in the lane with both hands. He absolutely can jump. In one of the newer videos he dunks from almost being flat footed.
I'd also rather get another PG in here now instead of hoping we land a big name next season and end up settling for someone almost exactly like him to be the backup next year. Get someone in now that can learn the system for a full season. Who's to say he won't push McBride out of the backup role? AND literally the worst case scenario is that he gets here, realizes he doesn't belong, and transfers out. This is a no lose situation from my point of view.
You really hit on the knoggin here. No risk. Get the guy in if he wants and see what he's made of. In today's landscape if he doesn't fit he'll move on
The word you always see on him is "tough", "leader" and "winner". Makes others better etc...
I can live with those qualities. I'm not jumping up and down seeing that video but if he's improved a bunch from that, I'd rather use the scholarship then hold it. We're one Dotson injury from the sky is falling.
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Oh this is a fun one.
Walker denies interest in playing overseas this year but we all know how denials go. Probably a lot of truth to him not having the grades to stay home and enroll somewhere.
So done with him already. W/e
Maybe there isn't truth to him actually going but I'm not buying it. Good luck to the kid. There was a brief thrill he might land here..
BeddieKU23 said:
I can live with those qualities. I'm not jumping up and down seeing that video but if he's improved a bunch from that, I'd rather use the scholarship then hold it. We're one Dotson injury from the sky is falling.
Yep. Plus it seems he is really close with CB. Would be the third MoKan kid recently after none for a long time.
I think he is firmly a RS guy but better to get him on campus and in the KU/Self program for a year than stash him at Sunrise. Like even if Dot gets injured (PLZ NO) I don't think he would play next year.
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
I can live with those qualities. I'm not jumping up and down seeing that video but if he's improved a bunch from that, I'd rather use the scholarship then hold it. We're one Dotson injury from the sky is falling.
Yep. Plus it seems he is really close with CB. Would be the third MoKan kid recently after none for a long time.
I think he is firmly a RS guy but better to get him on campus and in the KU/Self program for a year than stash him at Sunrise. Like even if Dot gets injured (PLZ NO) I don't think he would play next year.
Basically brothers with the Brauns. There's a rumor he'd be a partial qualifier, but I rarely buy into rumors about grades.
BShark said:
He's a guy you redshirt that is a pain in the ass for other teams as a JR/SR. Also friends with Braun I believe.
How on earth do you know that? I’m not at all second guessing you it’s just the amount of knowledge some of you have is very impressive.
@rockchalkwyo Just word of mouth. Also noticed back when and after Braun committed to us that he and Harris engaged with each other a lot on twitter. I then looked into Harris at the time and saw he was committed to Missouri State so I didn't think he would enter the equation for KU.
rockchalkwyo said:
BShark said:
He's a guy you redshirt that is a pain in the ass for other teams as a JR/SR. Also friends with Braun I believe.
How on earth do you know that? I’m not at all second guessing you it’s just the amount of knowledge some of you have is very impressive.
It was also in a Newell piece today. Harris lived with the Braun’s during AAU season for a couple years.
@FarmerJayhawk Didn't see this, thanks.
“Playing this summer with MOKAN Elite (an AAU program based in Kansas City) and is a tough as nails floor general and a winner,” Rivals.com’s Eric Bossi wrote of Harris on Tuesday.
Well guess they are seeing something seeing as how we offered. - -Sounds like from people in the know that he might transfer back to 2019?
If we wanted to and If he was interested enough with us - - - would we even have a scholi for him? - - let's see don't we still have ONE open? - - - I don't think he will be a guy that commits to soon - - he might sit back and just see how many and who ends up offering
saw a post from a fan saying that this kid is going to commit after Peach jam - somewhere anyways. - - That is this weekend I heard , can anyone one else verify that this is true? - -just curious. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer73 sounds like it’ll be next week and to Kansas. Probably for 2019
Harris looks great in this video. Shifty, solid handles, finishes with left or right, creatively. Can dunk. Put on some muscle since other video.
@approxinfinity I'm always down with true point guards. I don't think you can have too many of them.
@approxinfinity much better. He didn’t look power 5 caliber in the first video.
FarmerJayhawk said:
@jayballer73 sounds like it’ll be next week and to Kansas. Probably for 2019
Well if that turns out to be the case , maybe if he is rising like articles are saying then - - maybe we stole a solid player , cause they talking like he is going to be getting more likely then not a lot of higher major offers. - So if he commits that soon then would be good. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Another player that is going to add serious depth.
@jayballer73 I liked him from the first second because his tapes show some real good assists, great court vision, and some great drives. He has outstanding dribbling skills... still not sure his outside shot is there quite yet. The guy he reminds me of is a young Tyshawn. Without the turnovers.
Harris almost got a triple double this morning. Easily one of MoKan’s top players along with Dante. Self was also going to watch Karim Mane but Mane couldn’t make the first game. Should catch him tonight.
Not sure if it's breaking news, but KU is in a good spot with Isaiah Todd. Self did an in-home over the summer and Todd will visit KU in the fall. Look out below!!
FarmerJayhawk said:
Not sure if it's breaking news, but KU is in a good spot with Isaiah Todd. Self did an in-home over the summer and Todd will visit KU in the fall. Look out below!!
Worth it.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Not sure if it's breaking news, but KU is in a good spot with Isaiah Todd. Self did an in-home over the summer and Todd will visit KU in the fall. Look out below!!
Well that would be nice for sure. I had thought he was a pretty heavy lean towards North Carolina - - wonder by the time it rolls around when he is to visit - wonder IF we get hit with any post ban and such wonder how badly that will effect us with him? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I'd be really surprised if Todd ended up at UNC. I think they go with Brooks and Bacot at the 4 and 5 in 20-21.
Oh if we get hit with a postseason ban all bets are off. The 2019 class would look like that of 2013.
FarmerJayhawk said:
I'd be really surprised if Todd ended up at UNC. I think they go with Brooks and Bacot at the 4 and 5 in 20-21.
Oh if we get hit with a postseason ban all bets are off. The 2019 class would look like that of 2013.
So your thinking we won't get hit with a post season ban? -- - just curious. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer73 I doubt it, but the NCAA could decide otherwise. I know the powers that be at KU don't expect significant sanctions.
By “too far” he means “in like a week.” https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/Dajaun-Harris-2020-guard-Kansas-Missouri-Texas-Missouri-State-133589336/ ↗
Evan Daniels tweeted this out about 6 hours ago about Harris:
Been extremely impressed with 2020 prospect Dajuan Harris at Peach Jam. - - - Tough , competitor , at lead guard spot. - -Terrific passer/vision & a scrappy defender.
Someone asked if he thought he would re-classify BACK to 19 or stay in 2020 and watch his offers blow up?
Now if he is rising like I'm now hearing - and people just realizing he has gooten his release - I'm thinking and think he will stay in 2020 and watch the big time offers flow in - -I'm sure from what I'm hearing he would be getting ample offers if he stayed in 2020. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@FarmerJayhawk any word on who the staff is watching this week? I’ve haven’t seen Self and the staffs name mentioned much on Twitter.
Have you heard anything on KU and Nix? Or have they prioritized Thompson more now?
Seems like those are the only 2 top 20 players they have a legit shot at...
Woodrow said:
Seems like those are the only 2 top 20 players they have a legit shot at...
Isaiah Todd.
Caleb Love could end up top 20 and KU has a shot there.
Woodrow said:
@FarmerJayhawk any word on who the staff is watching this week? I’ve haven’t seen Self and the staffs name mentioned much on Twitter.
Have you heard anything on KU and Nix? Or have they prioritized Thompson more now?
Seems like those are the only 2 top 20 players they have a legit shot at...
Harris, Adam Miller, Isaiah Todd, and RJ Davis off the top of my head.
Nix is a slow burn. I think KU is in a good spot but he’ll be a spring guy. Thompson will likely decide in the fall.
I'll add Self was watching Thompson for both his games yesterday.
Also, re: Harris. The plan is to come in 2019, but he needs a few more classes to make it happen. Could be a thing where he shows up first day of school or doesn't come until mid-year.
@FarmerJayhawk Good to hear. Seems like the staff is taking Thompson very seriously and not banking on the connection.
Good info on Harris. Is the plan still to announce next week?
Self and staff all watching Caleb Love today.
Woodrow said:
@FarmerJayhawk any word on who the staff is watching this week? I’ve haven’t seen Self and the staffs name mentioned much on Twitter.
Have you heard anything on KU and Nix? Or have they prioritized Thompson more now?
Seems like those are the only 2 top 20 players they have a legit shot at...
Update on Nix. Should officially visit KU in the fall. Date tbd.
I'll be really interested to see how the staff plans visits to Late Night this year. We have so many overlapping guys since we really only have needs at PG and the 4-5. Do you have two guys like Nix and Thompson visit on the same weekend? Or do you split them apart and tell each they'll be a starting guard? And that doesn't even factor in Davis and Love. Suffice to say I really liked the guys we're prioritizing and it could be a really fun class.
@FarmerJayhawk Avoid the death penalty and land 2 out of the 4 you mentioned and KU will be really good again.
Looking at Peach Jam box scores 4 of the 6 Mokan games are up
Dajuan Harris has had these stat lines PTS AST REB STL
4/7/2/2 2-4 shooting
13/10/9/3 5-10 shooting
4/6/2/1 on 1-2 shooting
5/8/4/3 on 2-5 shooting
Definitely seems like a guy that is pass first and really picks his spots to actually shoot. 31 AST vs 10 turnovers.
Mokan won this morning advancing to the semi-finals, that box score isn't up on their site yet.
This is from Bossi
THE EYE OPENER
DAJUAN HARRIS
Why him?: MoKan Elite has made what is becoming an annual trip to the quarterfinals at the Peach Jam and the jet quick passer and floor general had an awful lot to do with it. He's as good a passer as there is in the country and he proved to be a legit high major option with his ability to lead, control pace, defend at the point of attack and ultimately lead his team to a win. This guy doesn't care about stats, he just cares about winning.
Recruitment: Signed with Missouri State in the class of 2019 but has reopened his recruitment and mentioned interest from Missouri and Texas with a Kansas offer.
BShark said:
This is from Bossi
THE EYE OPENER
DAJUAN HARRIS
Why him?: MoKan Elite has made what is becoming an annual trip to the quarterfinals at the Peach Jam and the jet quick passer and floor general had an awful lot to do with it. He's as good a passer as there is in the country and he proved to be a legit high major option with his ability to lead, control pace, defend at the point of attack and ultimately lead his team to a win. This guy doesn't care about stats, he just cares about winning.
Recruitment: Signed with Missouri State in the class of 2019 but has reopened his recruitment and mentioned interest from Missouri and Texas with a Kansas offer.
Don’t talk dirty like that to me, Bossi.
Mokan is in the finals at Peach Jam.
This is from the Arkansas board so tifwiw but they mostly believe KU is the leader for KK Robinson.
Thread link but it's VIP: https://247sports.com/college/arkansas/board/59414/Contents/kk-robinson--133591714/ ↗
BShark said:
This is from the Arkansas board so tifwiw but they mostly believe KU is the leader for KK Robinson.
Thread link but it's VIP: https://247sports.com/college/arkansas/board/59414/Contents/kk-robinson--133591714/ ↗
Sorry bud - - but who is this KK Robinson?
BShark said:
Mokan is in the finals at Peach Jam.
Final is on ESPNU at 1
I think they’d only take one of Robinson and Davis. Too many midgets running around isn’t good for Bill’s (or anyone’s) defense.
@FarmerJayhawk Agree. Corey Evans posted contradictory info with KK. Honestly, might make me feel even better about our chances LOL.
Apparently Mane is eligible for the 2020 draft. Knowing that, I'd stay away.
BShark said:
Apparently Mane is eligible for the 2020 draft. Knowing that, I'd stay away.
I don’t think we’re really that involved given we’re after 5-6 other guards right now, depending on whether Harris stays in 2020.
Mokan win 85 to 84 in overtime over teamwhynot
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
Mokan win 85 to 84 in overtime over teamwhynot
What was the deal there? I didn't see Harris play at all end game, caught it late at a Mexican restaurant
@approxinfinity u mean till end of game? I didn’t see much of him either but I was in and out. Didn’t know til end he was guy in head band. Nothing impressive to me🤔
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@approxinfinity u mean till end of game? I didn’t see much of him either but I was in and out. Didn’t know til end he was guy in head band. Nothing impressive to me🤔
He reminds me of a point guard who I am not gonna name but @HighEliteMajor remembers super fondly. Feeds the post like a boss.
He's a guy that Bill will play more than fans think he should.
Oh hey said PG was at this AAU game interesting
He's probably scouting, huh?
approxinfinity said:
@BShark oh I thought he was #5. I was looking for #5 but headband guy wasn't #5. That's probably it.
No he was # 13 - - wasn't really that impressed with him either had a coup[l of senseless turnovers late fouls - -not impressed. - -Not impressed enough to use our 13th Scholi on.
On a side note mercy N - -was huge bif boy what he end up with? - -like 26 and 16 ? - -I know were not but wish we were in harder on Greene
Evan CB’d Harris to KU. Lock city
@FarmerJayhawk What does that mean?
FarmerJayhawk said:
Evan CB’d Harris to KU. Lock city
So it sounds done but still the question of which class right?
Harris now shows as a 4 star prospect on 247, 107 overall
BeddieKU23 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Evan CB’d Harris to KU. Lock city
So it sounds done but still the question of which class right?
Yessir. I believe it’s grade dependent. If he can get all the coursework done and qualify, I think he ends up in 2019.
FarmerJayhawk said:
BeddieKU23 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Evan CB’d Harris to KU. Lock city
So it sounds done but still the question of which class right?
Yessir. I believe it’s grade dependent. If he can get all the coursework done and qualify, I think he ends up in 2019.
Would love to see that happen, red-shirt and ready to go next spring
Great news.
Sounds like jayballer is torn on this kid. He's gonna wait and watch his offers blow up but also not worthy of the 13th scholarship. Really makes you think. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
BeddieKU23 said:
Harris now shows as a 4 star prospect on 247, 107 overall
Wow got the KU bump before even committing smh
I guess I’ll trust u guys, seems like he was a back up and didn’t play much??
Crimsonorblue22 said:
I guess I’ll trust u guys, seems like he was a back up and didn’t play much??
He played a lot look at the box scores. Great glue guard think Brady or Russ.
Harris can really play. He'll be a giant pain in the ass for everyone in the league. While we may never wow you with athleticism, he just is good at basketball.
How confident are we that he reclassifies?
It's grade and course completing dependent so nobody really knows for sure.
Reclassifying to redshirt is kinda funny. Hurry up and wait.
FarmerJayhawk said:
It's grade and course completing dependent so nobody really knows for sure.
If he reclasses, redshirt? Or legit competition for McBride as the backup PG?
In my mind, he's much more of a pure PG than McBride who I feel is more like a short Combo guard.
dylans said:
Reclassifying to redshirt is kinda funny. Hurry up and wait.
Better to have him in Lawrence than Wichita.
BShark said:
Great news.
Sounds like jayballer is torn on this kid. He's gonna wait and watch his offers blow up but also not worthy of the 13th scholarship. Really makes you think. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
Oh how we question lol. - - not really torn actually - -just me - -I would as soon leave it open - he just doesn't wow me looks very ordinary - had some critical to's late in the game - - forced passes - -yes I watched the entire game - -got beat on the drive while playing defense more then once resulting in a foul. - -just wasn't really overwhelmed by his play - -never really heard the commentators talking about him much - -he did play a lot - -so I'm not gonna jump off a cliff cause we take him
As far as him waiting for his Scholi's to blow up - -that's coming from what others have said possible - - I just happen to agree I think IF he is all that like some are trying to make him out - -then ya like they say he will more likely then he will stay in 2020 -and get numerous offers.
You can throw all the shade ya want - - I know it sounds like a forked tongue - -I won't be mad if he comes - -I won't lose sleep if he doesn't pretty much when it's all said and done. - -The main thing I don't want to see is us getting to a point where just offer to have that body. - -He redshirts? - -then possibly he can help - -as far as him challenging Mcbride this year - for back up point - - - -I don't think Issac would have much to worry about. - - McBride is quicker - - Better shooter and good defensively - - There ya have it - -if he comes -- WELCOME ABOARD - -make me a believer - - I mean he from Missouri right? - - Soooo SHOW ME - - lmao - -just having some fun guys don't get your skivvies twisted. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
As a little side not to this guys - - - - just saw where Jerry Meyer and Cris Fisher both picked Harris to KU - -to go along with Evan - - CB said been 4 predictions - - haven't seen the other - -but the CB has KU at 100 % - -so had to be a KU pick also - - there you go -- -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Okay, it is now time for Coach Marco to interpret and read between the lines, and it is as I predicted (I am also a crystal ball reader when it comes to moves that we will make after making moves.... Lol). We already have McBride, and if we sign Harris - regardless of whether he is in 2019 or 2020 - we will not sign Nix or any other five star PG and I am fine with that - feed the horses! Now,,, if we are no longer targeting point guards who then besides Thompson and Todd should we be?
KU leads for Caleb Love.
@FarmerJayhawk Yeah, I saw that too. Prediction, we won't sign him. We'll already have two point guards who are both four stars and more than serviceable. No, scratch that, we'll have three point guards if also including Garrett.
@Marco the staff wants at least 2 guards in 2020. If Harris doesn’t reclassify he’d be the third. They don’t want to rely on McBride as a 30 MPG guy as a sophomore. Harris won’t be ready to be the guy either. Love and Thompson are such good fits because they’re interchangeable on both ends. Both have the length to slide to the 3 in a small lineup. Chasing all these 6’0 ish guards doesn’t give us near the flexibility we want.
FarmerJayhawk said:
KU leads for Caleb Love.
Big time
Love retweeted something about KU coaches being 4 deep for his game. Bodes well you would think.
BeddieKU23 said:
Love retweeted something about KU coaches being 4 deep for his game. Bodes well you would think.
Very much so. Get Love, Thompson, and Harris then call it good.
Bold Harris prediction - Reclassify redshirt transfer. Prove me wrong Missouri boi. Please be a diamond in the rough.
Color me jaded, but the 3-4 year guys I’d like are ranked 30-80.
@dylans Bold prediction, aside from what the KU staff might want @FarmerJayhawk - and I agree, Love is bigtime - we will have only McBride, Harris and Garrett as our depth point guards. So, let's move on to the frontcourt, who?
@dylans Mostly posting this as a reminder to myself for later since I'm about to go to sleep.
Interesting range of 30-80. I'm curious now how many kids in that range do stay 3-4 years. I'll do breakdowns tomorrow over the last few classes that apply (so starting with 2017) and tackling each group of 10 (30-39, 40-49 etc) and seeing the percentages. My gut instinct would be not a lot in the 30-50 range are there 4 years.
Marco said:
@dylans Bold prediction, aside from what the KU staff might want @FarmerJayhawk - and I agree, Love is bigtime - we will have only McBride, Harris and Garrett as our depth point guards. So, let's move on to the frontcourt, who?
I’m watching Mady Sissoko, Dawson Garcia, Josh Hall, and Isaiah Todd.
Seen a few 247 articles in the past week mention the rise of Bryce Thompson and his recruitment and don't even mention KU.. Wondering what's up with that when he's clearly a TOP target and has interest. No mention of his recent visit.
Anyways Bryce is now a 5 star prospect, ranked #20. Huge jump for this guy. Hope we can pull him and Love together
@BeddieKU23 Man, if we could pull Thompson and Love I would be ecstatic (hope my gut feeling is wrong. It wouldn't be the first).
@FarmerJayhawk gave a list of frontcourt players. It would great to add Todd and Garcia too.
I wish you all would put videos up of these kids you talk about. Or use full names. Consider it your good deed for the elderly...lol.
KUSTEVE said:
I wish you all would put videos up of these kids you talk about. Or use full names. Consider it your good deed for the elderly...lol.
We probably need a new thread with a list of “persons if interest” with their 247 linked next to them
30-39
2017
Still in school: Silvio, John Petty (barely), Paul Scruggs, Chaundee Brown, Ethan Thompson
Gone: Jalek Felton, SGA, Lindell Wigginton, Brandon Randolph, Daniel Gafford
2016
SR: Cassius Winston, Alterique Gilbert, Udoka
Left after JR year: Tyus Battle, Kyle Guy
Left before that: Zach Collins, Lauri Markannen
LOL: Cunliffe, Javin DeLaurier
The 2017 guys could still leave before their senior year of course. I bet at a minimum Silvio does. It's a crapshoot.
To add, the 2018 class saw two players in the 30-39 range go OAD
Tyler Herro & Luquentz Dort.
I would wager a few pennies we see Reggie Perry, Ayo, Javonte Smart & Kira Lewis join after this year. 60% likely gone after two years.
Joey Baker will be around, Brandon Williams knee's will likely get in his way of leaving early, McCormack is a 4 year guy and I have no idea on Cherry's career arc but all I saw him do at AZ St was chuck 3's so who knows.
The 30-39 range is definitely not what people think it is
Kcmatt7 said:
dylans said:
@BShark Mason 76, Graham 36. Seems to be the sweet spot.
Both had major KU bumps.
Yeah, but the major KU bumps this go around got the guys into the 90-150 range. Pretty unimpressive. Diamonds in the rough are tough to find and guys in this range rarely make an impact in their first 2-3 years.
@approxinfinity I think this will need to be a bigger class than last year. Plus the timing of the FBI stuff and rumors swirling hurt a lot. 2018 was a big class when needed, 20 needs to be big and typically Bill does his best work in these spots.
I answered him on discord but basically it's guys I think KU is firmly leading for.
Crap. Still can’t delete things. Enjoy!
If there is no new post on that thread it will disappear unless you actively search it out. Personally I only go to unread topics. I don’t believe editing the OP will bring it back up.
@dylans Not meaning to toot my own horn but we could pin it if it is felt that it is important enough.
I will be editing the OP with new information as I hear about it.
Ty Berry will play his SR year at Sunrise: 🐦 View Tweet
A bit of 1 + 1 here with Dajuan Harris who was going to be at Sunrise this upcoming year.
Newton coach.
Good for Berry, not so good for KSHAA basketball.
dylans said:
Kcmatt7 said:
dylans said:
@BShark Mason 76, Graham 36. Seems to be the sweet spot.
Both had major KU bumps.
Yeah, but the major KU bumps this go around got the guys into the 90-150 range. Pretty unimpressive. Diamonds in the rough are tough to find and guys in this range rarely make an impact in their first 2-3 years.
Just no winning for Bill lol. Can't recruit OADs or program guys...
Have to be high impact freshman who are okay with sitting the bench. All 5 of them.
Most kids transfer to sunrise Academy so they can get better in get more chances to get scholarships from coaches
@Crimsonorblue22 I bet that his Newton coach was not happy at all. But great situation for Ty he gets to play with the #5 kid in the country in the 2020 class,. Also heard that Tom Izzo was a steady presence at Tys games this past weekend in Atlanta, along with Michigan University.
FarmerJayhawk said:
New offer. He was terrific this weekend. https://247sports.com/Player/Kerwin-Walton-4605721 ↗
Sure seems to be a lot more offering to middle on the top 100 and then even guys like this - - and like McBride - - & Braun last year maybe a change of plan/attack in recruiting - -maybe looking at more 4 year quality guys for room to improve - - -
It could be with this new rule coming into effect before to longer , maybe Coach is changing approach/attack. Could be he is looking to start making more of an concerted effort on 4 year types of guys that has room to develop. - Good solid quality players - - yet 4 year players and possibly a little less on the Elite that we know with more then not probably will jump straight to the NBA. - So Coach getting a little head start - I dunno just a thought. - He starts recruiting these types of players now - -leaves less chance of getting left out from the elite and then having to scramble for other players to fill holes on the roster - - I really don't have a problem with good solid quality 3-4 year players with a OAD sprinkled in if we can still land them - -might work out okay - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Yes sir
@alwaysajayhawk We won't sign Berry if Harris commits - as simple as that. (edit) I didn't see @FarmerJayhawk 's post before sending this.
@jayballer73 That's kind of what I have said and am thinking, and - but we'll always nab a couple of high profile recruits - I am all in!
FarmerJayhawk said:
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I'll take that. I say quit concentrating on PGs in the 2020 class, focus elsewhere.
No way. We still need an impact guard if not two.
We still need 2 guards, possibly a wing, and 2 bigs.
Can't see signing an impact wing at all. Enaruna, Wilson, Garret and to a lesser extent Braun will likely all still be on the roster.
BShark said:
Can't see signing an impact wing at all. Enaruna, Wilson, Garret and to a lesser extent Braun will likely all still be on the roster.
I still can. If Kyree Walker wants to come, you take him. So we’ll see.
FarmerJayhawk said:
We still need 2 guards, possibly a wing, and 2 bigs.
That's what I more or less just said, don't see us signing another PG, though.
FarmerJayhawk said:
We still need 2 guards, possibly a wing, and 2 bigs.
This is how I see it. Would have to be a miracle like Scottie Barnes to take a wing.
SO McBride and RS FR/SO Harris as the only point options is an NIT recipe but Self is so good he would make the NCAAT somehow. Honestly in that spot maybe Garrett starts at pg, really don't wanna see it. Adding Caleb Love would be a game changer.
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
Can't see signing an impact wing at all. Enaruna, Wilson, Garret and to a lesser extent Braun will likely all still be on the roster.
I still can. If Kyree Walker wants to come, you take him. So we’ll see.
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BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
We still need 2 guards, possibly a wing, and 2 bigs.
This is how I see it. Would have to be a miracle like Scottie Barnes to take a wing.SO McBride and RS FR/SO Harris as the only point options is an NIT recipe but Self is so good he would make the NCAAT somehow. Honestly I'm that spot maybe Garrett starts at pg, really don't wanna see it. Adding Caleb Love would be a game changer.
Look, not trying to argue with you man, but recruits are not stupid. We'd have McBride, Harris and Garrett - a pretty crowded PG rotation. Didn't say I didn't want us to sign another point guard, only said that we wouldn't. And while thinking that I believe that we should focus mostly on other positions. PS - I disagree about a McBride/Harris tandem at PG being NIT. Would Caleb Love who cannot pass be such an improvement?
Love, Nix and Thompson are all immediate starters period. Not saying we get them but they are all started level and Bill will try. Love is a game changer imo, would be thrilled to land him we need size. Garrett is an emergency pg.
@BShark Oh,,, we'll get Thompson who is bigtime but he is not a point guard. Only trying to be realistic. Nix and Love are not - but if they do I'll celebrate with a bonfire/rib grill/keg party and invite all of you - going to sign with us. Personally, I'm fine with our signing of Harris rather than waiting for Nix or Love.
@BShark Then we need to go full court press and hire his dad. UNC who? Hey, if we can get Love I would be ecstatic, just don't think we will. Will Love sign thinking that for sure McBride and Harris will need a two-year learning curve? Not to mention Garrett, that's all I'm saying.
I think Walker goes to college. When/where still TBD.
We’re going to need bodies too. Could lose 6 guys from this year’s roster. I really like Harris but he won’t be a KU caliber starter for 2-3 years. I’m not sure what we have in McBride yet. He’s never been a distributor really. Need 2 more guards to bridge us to upperclassmen Harris and McBride. I could also see one of Wilson/Enaruna as our starting 4 next year, so that opens up a spot at the wing for a different guy.
@FarmerJayhawk dot silvio doke mitch ochai moss being the possible 6? Agree it still needs to be a big class with immediate talent.
I think that Enaruna and Wilson will from time to time play both forward positions. Try to sign Thompson, Todd and Garcia for sure, and whatever others.
Mentioned this in an update in the target thread but Cam'ron Fletcher cut KU. What a brief time it was, literally just offered him.
@FarmerJayhawk Sign him and it might bode well for us being able to get Garcia.
BShark said:
SO McBride and RS FR/SO Harris as the only point options is an NIT recipe but Self is so good he would make the NCAAT somehow. Honestly in that spot maybe Garrett starts at pg, really don't wanna see it.
Scary stuff right there. Reminds me to live in the moment and enjoy next year. The following one could be rough as a $2 handy if no top shelf talent signs.
Idk if Self is playing the recruiting game super safe or if the FBI/NCAA witch hunt has been killing us. Still pissed they have just decided not to even look at Dook after we knew what Zion wanted and Wendell Carters name was several lists of guys that got money. Makes me not want to watch my favorite sport. It seems pretty logical that if are giving guys ranked in the 60s and higher stuff, that the Dooks, UNCs and Kentucky's of the world must be paying for the multiple top 25 guys they get every year.
That was a quick recruitment for Harris. KU did a good job here.
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
We still need 2 guards, possibly a wing, and 2 bigs.
This is how I see it. Would have to be a miracle like Scottie Barnes to take a wing.
SO McBride and RS FR/SO Harris as the only point options is an NIT recipe but Self is so good he would make the NCAAT somehow. Honestly in that spot maybe Garrett starts at pg, really don't wanna see it. Adding Caleb Love would be a game changer.
I think that we could skate with those two running PG.
It's those two running PG with the rest of that roster that is terrifying....
Bill absolutely needs to go find someone who's a walking bucket or else the 2020-2021 season looks like it's going to be rough.
Kcmatt7 said:
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
We still need 2 guards, possibly a wing, and 2 bigs.
This is how I see it. Would have to be a miracle like Scottie Barnes to take a wing.
SO McBride and RS FR/SO Harris as the only point options is an NIT recipe but Self is so good he would make the NCAAT somehow. Honestly in that spot maybe Garrett starts at pg, really don't wanna see it. Adding Caleb Love would be a game changer.
I think that we could skate with those two running PG.
It's those two running PG with the rest of that roster that is terrifying....
Bill absolutely needs to go find someone who's a walking bucket or else the 2020-2021 season looks like it's going to be rough.
We would need some rapid development from Tristan and Wilson. I think we really need to add a big like Todd or Garcia. Both in a dream world.
BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
We still need 2 guards, possibly a wing, and 2 bigs.
This is how I see it. Would have to be a miracle like Scottie Barnes to take a wing.
SO McBride and RS FR/SO Harris as the only point options is an NIT recipe but Self is so good he would make the NCAAT somehow. Honestly in that spot maybe Garrett starts at pg, really don't wanna see it. Adding Caleb Love would be a game changer.
I think that we could skate with those two running PG.
It's those two running PG with the rest of that roster that is terrifying....
Bill absolutely needs to go find someone who's a walking bucket or else the 2020-2021 season looks like it's going to be rough.
We would need some rapid development from Tristan and Wilson. I think we really need to add a big like Todd or Garcia. Both in a dream world.
Absolutely need size. No disagreement there. Need a new project C too, imo.
My dream class is still Nix, Thompson, Todd, Sissoko, and Jacob Love. I think all those guards can actually play together since both Nix and Thompson are around 6’5. So your lineup would be Nix, Thompson, Garrett, Todd, McCormack. Main rotation guys are Love, Harris, Wilson, and Enaruna. HAVE SOME
Offered 2021 Kendall Brown. Have a real good shot here from the looks of it.
Brown also described Kansas as his “dream school” Friday and spoke about what he likes about Kansas.
“Pretty much everything,” said Brown. “We went down there for a tournament in second grade and I just loved the place and everything about it.”
“He played there as a second grader and ever since, KU was where he wanted to go,” Brown’s father, Courtney told ZAGSBLOG.
In terms of what he’s looking for in a school, Brown said he’s prioritizing “the coaches and style of play”.
Close here Bill.
BShark said:
Brown also described Kansas as his “dream school” Friday and spoke about what he likes about Kansas.
“Pretty much everything,” said Brown. “We went down there for a tournament in second grade and I just loved the place and everything about it.”
“He played there as a second grader and ever since, KU was where he wanted to go,” Brown’s father, Courtney told ZAGSBLOG.
In terms of what he’s looking for in a school, Brown said he’s prioritizing “the coaches and style of play”.Close here Bill.
BILL SELF TAKE THE WHEEL
BShark said:
Brown also described Kansas as his “dream school” Friday and spoke about what he likes about Kansas.
“Pretty much everything,” said Brown. “We went down there for a tournament in second grade and I just loved the place and everything about it.”
“He played there as a second grader and ever since, KU was where he wanted to go,” Brown’s father, Courtney told ZAGSBLOG.
In terms of what he’s looking for in a school, Brown said he’s prioritizing “the coaches and style of play”.Close here Bill.
Any inside info? How good is the guy?
Hadn't really heard of him or seen him play yet @Marco He's on my radar now. He's going down to Sunrise so he will have a lot of exposure going forward. He has to have some kind of game to be a top 50 recruit as a JR. Feelings seem mixed on him. Rivals has him as a top 20 guy but 247 bumped him down to 45 in their last update 8 days ago. I don't think Rivals has updated yet so he may drop there too. One bad tournament will do that and with the new schedule there aren't nearly as many chances for coaches to evaluate. I trust Bill when it comes to evals for the most part.
Could he commit today I couldn't tell you. Keep in mind we have Tre White committed at his position and he is likely to reclass and move up into the same class as Brown.
This kid can flat out play!
Brown looks like a 4 to me. He's a freak athlete, but he is so raw offensively I couldn't imagine him playing guard.
Tre White looks like a guard to me though. Much more fluid. Better form on his shot. Better handles.
But we'll see.
So is my boy Kyree just TOTALLY removed from our recruiting efforts? - -ya I heard that supposedly talk about him going over sea's but just curious - -I know he is refuting that saying he hadn't said that.
Has anyone heard if Coach has just backed totally away? - -the kid is an animal - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
jayballer73 said:
So is my boy Kyree just TOTALLY removed from our recruiting efforts? - -ya I heard that supposedly talk about him going over sea's but just curious - -I know he is refuting that saying he hadn't said that.
Has anyone heard if Coach has just backed totally away? - -the kid is an animal - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
You know I'd love to have him end up at KU, but this overseas smoke concerns me.
BShark said:
jayballer73 said:
So is my boy Kyree just TOTALLY removed from our recruiting efforts? - -ya I heard that supposedly talk about him going over sea's but just curious - -I know he is refuting that saying he hadn't said that.
Has anyone heard if Coach has just backed totally away? - -the kid is an animal - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
You know I'd love to have him end up at KU, but this overseas smoke concerns me.
actually I hadn't heard A THING until here - -then I read the article where he said he wasn't doing that
@jayballer73 that article was in response to the rumors he had a deal in place to play in China. So the smoke has been around for several weeks. Whether there is any substance is up in the air. Hopefully Bill has the roster filled out with quality players long before we have to deal with that drama. (I’m a dreamer, I know)
BShark said:
Interesting, if true.
HMMMM , interesting indeed - but it says he is 2021?
BShark said:
Interesting, if true.
Overrated (clap clap clap lap clap). As a general rule, I’d prefer we didn’t offer guys my height, 5’8 on a good day.
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Yea I'm torn. We've seen Frank, Ulis, Harper and Edwards all do well despite their size.
His brother plays D1 ball too, at a small school, but he's done okay considering he's probably about the same height.
I admit, it's pretty hard to get a read on how a short guy's game will translate to this level.
@Kcmatt7 True. Ulis is the closest to Harmon's size, and is a true PG where Harmon is definitely more of a combo at this point. Frank was too when Townsend saw him first, but was also a freak athlete and a couple inches taller. Edwards is a good comp. Harmon isn't the shot maker Edwards is, but there's a time component to that.
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How is it that ol sweaty/stumpy keeps getting these kids to commit AFTER the NCAA is all up in their a - - - I would think they gonna be getting hit - - and hit hard BUT yet doesn't seem t be effecting their recruiting - -hell were not even sure ol stumpy will be keeping his job. - - - Terry committed to them what the hell? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Caleb Love has been really good at Team USA camp and is really coming along as a PG. He’ll cut his list this week and KU is certainly in as good a spot as anyone.
Well I'll discuss this topic a little more , I know I've talked about this multiple times so I apologize.
Just read where Kyree is close to making his decision about re-classifying to 2019 OR staying in 2020. I know seems to be a lot of discussion about Kyree jumping and going over sea's most think it's a done deal or a lot of people think that way. - -Kyree on the other hand is denying that - I wouldn't want to bet on it one way or another.
People know how much I like Kyree. - -Kid is a beast - - has no position can play 1-4 probably so they say anyways - massive hops. - -So anyways obviously if KU still has interest then obviously we have to have him stay in the class of 2020 right? - -as we have no more spots available for 2019. - -So let me ask IF he does stay in 2020 - we still recruit him hard right? -- or do we just say Blah on the assumption he is a done deal for over sea's ?
I think you have to attack him hard - -we could for sure use him big time - I would love to have him. - -What would you do/say? - -What you think Coach will do? - - I want him - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Kyree lost me at overseas
I don't think coach is recruiting him much at all, unless he chooses to go to college (2020) and just begs for KU to sign him - which he won't. We're going to lose some players after this season, but will still have plenty coming back and our 2020 recruiting class I think has a chance to be pretty bigtime.
As of today Kyree is staying in 2020
FarmerJayhawk said:
As of today Kyree is staying in 2020
Well IF we were to still want to recruit him - - we would obviously want him to stay in 2020 - -I would still take him obviously - - I seriously can't believe that Coach wouldn't want to recruit him in 2020 - -I think we if he does stay in 2020 were going to still recruit - -again the kid is good - -real good
Daishen Nix's Guardian said he will take an official visit to KU and UK in the coming weeks. Nix officially visited Maryland last year.
His Guardian is a former assistant to Jerry Tarkanian.
Being touted as the best passer in High School, being compared to Jason Kidd at same stage.
No shoe affiliation. Going to be a weird one or normal, the lines are so blurred no idea what's normal in bball recruiting anymore
BeddieKU23 said:
Daishen Nix said he will take an official visit to KU and UK in the coming weeks.
He has a guardian, beware, former assistant to Jerry Tarkanian.
Being touted as the best passer in High School, being compared to Jason Kidd at same stage.
No shoe affiliation. Going to be a weird one
Sounds like he'll be an early commit wherever he goes.
Kcmatt7 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Daishen Nix said he will take an official visit to KU and UK in the coming weeks.
He has a guardian, beware, former assistant to Jerry Tarkanian.
Being touted as the best passer in High School, being compared to Jason Kidd at same stage.
No shoe affiliation. Going to be a weird one
Sounds like he'll be an early commit wherever he goes.
From Alaska originally, same area as Mario Chalmers
moses @moses_moody3 10m
blessed to have received an offer from the university of Kansas! thank you hcbill self @kuhoops @kuathletics go jayhawks
Cunningham cutting his list to 5 tonight.
Guessing Okie Lite, dook, UK, UNC, Texas
FarmerJayhawk said:
Guessing Okie Lite, dook, UK, UNC, Texas
Got sort of close. OSU, UK, UNC, Washington, Florida.
Looking pretty swoosh there.
BShark said:
Looking pretty swoosh there.
Bags already dropped. Now he just gets to pick which one Nike tells him to pick
We made Isaiah Todd's final 5: KU, UK, Memphis, Michigan, UNC. Kind of suprised there's no Okie Lite.
FarmerJayhawk said:
We made Isaiah Todd's final 5: KU, UK, Memphis, Michigan, UNC. Kind of suprised there's no Okie Lite.
High roller battle.
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
We made Isaiah Todd's final 5: KU, UK, Memphis, Michigan, UNC. Kind of suprised there's no Okie Lite.
High roller battle.
Yessir. Todd has played on every shoe circuit over the years so there's no built in loyalty there. Honestly think KU has the best shot of those 5. UK seems like they've moved on after Todd decided to stay in 2020. UNC and Todd aren't that tight. Michigan seems an odd fit. Can never count out Memphis though.
FarmerJayhawk said:
We made Isaiah Todd's final 5: KU, UK, Memphis, Michigan, UNC. Kind of suprised there's no Okie Lite.
Always nice to land in a top five - -when in reality it means with this one we finish in the runners up spot - -again , to either Kentucky OR N Carolina be interesting to see which one gets him
More news, we made Caleb Love’s top 6: KU, UNC, Louisville, slavers, Zona
This smells like KU vs. UNC.
Mercy - -what the hell am I missing? - I see yet ANOTHER recruit - -Puff Johnson - -not that we were in on him - -but yet - -here we go another recruit that has Stumpy as one of his top schools. - -What the Hell? - -what exactly is ol sweaty selling these kids anyways?
With the heat that has been on that program and Coach's yet still seems recruits drawn to him like a Venus fly trap - -I JUST DON'T GET IT
Someone please help clarify this for me - -just exactly does he have that is causing this - players still showing major interest when we not even sure what might be given to them as Punishment from this whole NCAA?FBI scandal thing - -doesn't seem to be making much difference - - scaring recruit away - -so what gives> - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer73 Puff’s dad played with Miller at Pitt.
FarmerJayhawk said:
@jayballer73 Puff’s dad played with Miller at Pitt.
Oh Ok. - Well I guess that's makes a least a little sense then - -a ilttle bit anyways.
Still besides puff - - I am still not seeing all the love with these recruits they are giving ol stumpy
JT Thor reclassifying to 2020 and committing the 26th. Haven’t heard a firm leader but I’ll ask around.
@FarmerJayhawk Kansas/ Kentucky? Or are Maryland, Florida, the field in it? KU lean I hope!
dylans said:
@FarmerJayhawk Kansas/ Kentucky? Or are Maryland, Florida, the field in it? KU lean I hope!
I can’t see Kentucky. They just got a combo forward today and will get another in Lance Ware. Oregon is one to watch. But KU is in the top tier for sure.
FarmerJayhawk said:
dylans said:
@FarmerJayhawk Kansas/ Kentucky? Or are Maryland, Florida, the field in it? KU lean I hope!
I can’t see Kentucky. They just got a combo forward today and will get another in Lance Ware. Oregon is one to watch. But KU is in the top tier for sure.
Whoa, what is this? -- -where have I been? - -who is this Thor kid? - -didn't even know we were recruiting any Thor - - - can you tell me something about him? - -any good? - -Do we have a shot at him?
FarmerJayhawk said:
dylans said:
@FarmerJayhawk Kansas/ Kentucky? Or are Maryland, Florida, the field in it? KU lean I hope!
I can’t see Kentucky. They just got a combo forward today and will get another in Lance Ware. Oregon is one to watch. But KU is in the top tier for sure.
Never discount Cal.
just checked the UK board - -some were asking if he was on campus this past week. - -Talking about how him and Todd would be a good combo.
A couple saying according to twitter looked like KU was the leader. Talking about looked like he really didn't have any flaws - - his -jump was shot was pretty good high arch pretty unstoppable - sound ok to me
Says recruitment is wide open - - - -and ya going to Announce the 26th of August - that would be a nice start. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer73 Lol.... And don't forget Apollo Jackson!
KUSTEVE said:
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Oh a lefty - -a sure thing for sure being a lefty just like me - -can't miss lol - - Seriously though looks like a smooth stroke. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Slater recently put a CB into Okie Lite for Bryce Thompson.. Shenanigans going on in Stillwater to land Cunningham and Thompson??
@BeddieKU23 seems pretty clear something strange is going on behind the scenes there.
@BeddieKU23 There is a rumor he wants Trae Young shot volume.
Something strange is going on behind the scenes everywhere. Some scenes are just stranger than others. I'm perfectly fine with a kid who wants Trae Young volume not attending Kansas.
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 There is a rumor he wants Trae Young shot volume.
Interesting rumor. I mean its easy to lump a kid into that rep for being from Oklahoma but wonder what legs it actually has. I haven't seen Boynton to be the type of coach to facilitate "shot volume" but maybe he will for Thompson.
This recruitment certainly looks to have taken a life of its own
@BeddieKU23 Yeah I think Boynton is a damn good coach.
BeddieKU23 said:
Slater recently put a CB into Okie Lite for Bryce Thompson.. Shenanigans going on in Stillwater to land Cunningham and Thompson??
OSU does have the occasional class like that, probably about once a decade or so. Probably just Nike spreading the wealth to their second tier programs. LSU is another example and so was Washington before this year. Teams that about once a decade or so land a monster class courtesy of the Nike machine.
LSU could stay a perennial threat depending on Wade.
Xavier Foster released his top 5: Iowa (likely landing spot), ISU, Baylor, Providence, Va Tech
FarmerJayhawk said:
Xavier Foster released his top 5: Iowa (likely landing spot), ISU, Baylor, Providence, Va Tech
Well at least KU was eliminated early. Thought there was a chance he would end up at Duke but it seems they didn't want him since they never offered.
Well , seems to be some confusion here to me. - -What I had been hearing was that JT Thor was going to make his decision by the 26th of August as to where he is going to play.
Yet when I read the article that he had indeed re-classified and him stating that his recruitment was WIDE OPEN that there were no leaders - the article said he won't even list his top Schools that he is interested In till the end of August. - -So which is it? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Corey Evans just had a weekly mailbag and he thinks Thor ends up at Oregon or Kentucky if UK offers.
And Nix will visit Kansas this fall. Date TBD.
Man, how I would love for us to sign a true inside/out small forward, 6-7ish 225 lbs, a Paul Pierce kinda guy - though obviouly not saying if we signed one that he would ever be that good.
FarmerJayhawk said:
And Nix will visit Kansas this fall. Date TBD.
Hope we have a real shot.
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
And Nix will visit Kansas this fall. Date TBD.
Hope we have a real shot.
We absolutely do. He's one of the more wide open five star guys in the class since he doesn't play on a shoe circuit or anything.
KU does not make the final 5 for Greg Brown. Kentucky, Texas, UNC, Memphis and Auburn.
Woodrow said:
KU does not make the final 5 for Greg Brown. Kentucky, Texas, UNC, Memphis and Auburn.
Lol it’s like he’s telegraphing to up the bidding
Woodrow said:
KU does not make the final 5 for Greg Brown. Kentucky, Texas, UNC, Memphis and Auburn.
Dam call me Naïve , fully understand we wasn't gonna be his final destination BUT to not make his final 5? - -interesting , but just as well , no reason to waste time. - -I think he stays right in Texas myself. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Woodrow said:
KU does not make the final 5 for Greg Brown. Kentucky, Texas, UNC, Memphis and Auburn.
That's a shame, he's a fantastic talent but I knew this one was all about the swoosh
Pretty predictable I think we were all prepared for it.
... and we should consider ourselves lucky as a result.
Just for the curious - - wanted to say again - - JT Thor will NOT be committing of August 26th as has been mentioned - -his birthday- - he will at that time be giving his list of his top schools and is planning on announcing his commitment in October - -The word that is going around is that he will be Coming to KU late Night - -just letting you know - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Will be interesting to monitor. Dawson Garcia could potentially visit KU this fall. One of many schools in contact with him.
Garcia also continues to hear regularly from North Carolina, Kansas, Kentucky and Duke. Texas, Marquette, Arizona & the hometown Minnesota are also heavily involved.
@BeddieKU23 Would love for us to be able to sign Garcia.
I know some here are not fans, but KU officially offered Andre Curbelo
@Crimsonorblue22 People weren't impressed with him.
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Andre is a 4 year guy. Is he better then Harris who we just took? I say we look for an elite option like we are. I see the value in offering. May just be that.
BeddieKU23 said:
Andre is a 4 year guy. Is he better then Harris who we just took? I say we look for an elite option like we are. I see the value in offering. May just be that.
Could be that Bill is hedging that at least one of the two will turn out.
I don't expect an elite PG to get scared away by any of the PGs projected to be on the roster in 2020-2021.
Marco said:
@Kcmatt7 I do.... Not that I necessarily want them to be - would take Nix in a heartbeat! - but we would already have McBride, Harris and Garrett. That is a pretty deep and talented group.
Garrett isn't a PG. I don't understand why people keep lumping him in with the PGs. He hasn't been one since he got here. He isn't one right now. And he won't be one next season.
Kcmatt7 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Andre is a 4 year guy. Is he better then Harris who we just took? I say we look for an elite option like we are. I see the value in offering. May just be that.
Could be that Bill is hedging that at least one of the two will turn out.
I don't expect an elite PG to get scared away by any of the PGs projected to be on the roster in 2020-2021.
I agree Bill has sent a lot of offers out in this class and I don't see anyone being scared away. The only way that happens is if McBride wiggles himself an established backup role and shows the combination of playmaking and facilitating that he can provide. TBD on that though.
I want Love from this class first and foremost. I think we have the best shot with him right now the way his recruitment is trending. Nix obviously is a big fish as well with tremendous passing ability. Bryce Thompson's recruitment has certainly taken some turns recently. Not sure what's happening there but my dream class was Love/Thompson. If we can land one of the two we should feel pretty good about our lead guard options.
Marco said:
@Kcmatt7 I do.... Not that I necessarily want them to be - would take Nix in a heartbeat! - but we would already have McBride, Harris and Garrett. That is a pretty deep and talented group.
More talented then Nix ? - - - I think not. - - If Nix would not come because of these guys -then I wouldn't want him - always have sai - - always will say. - -If your as good as people say you are -- if you think your as good as you say you are - then Nix won't be scared off by these guys - prove your talent on the court - -in competition - it will play it'self out - - -if your a type of guy that just wants to come to the school and be given the spot/handed to you? - -then find a school that will let you do that - -I'm not interested in players that aren't interested having to compete for their spot on the floor - -shows a sign of lazyiness - -non competitiveness.
I don't think Nix or Love either one would back away just because McBride or Harris were already here - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer73 I didn't say that he was more talented than Nix.
Happens all the time in recruiting though with kids choosing schools based on the depth chart. I couldn't imagine KU landing or aggressively going after a PG if Devon wasn't almost a lock to leave after this season? You can't sell playing time to an elite kid if he's going to be stuck behind Devon. But Self has a good message to sell if he's already looking for his replacement with the expectation he's leaving and the options behind him are unproven freshman right now. There's always a chance a kid will be scared by the fact Self does have a few options on the roster but what can ya do. It's recruiting. That's why KU rarely goes after just one guy at a position.
Marco said:
@jayballer73 I didn't say that he was more talented than Nix.
no you just listed players that would be there - -I wasn't pointing out that you had said ONE specific player - you listed McBride - - Garret - & Harris and talking about he may not come with those three - -All I'm saying not ONE of them more talented then him - -there would be NO reason for him not to come even with those three - -he should be able to win that spot
BeddieKU23 said:
Happens all the time in recruiting though with kids choosing schools based on the depth chart. I couldn't imagine KU landing or aggressively going after a PG if Devon wasn't almost a lock to leave after this season? You can't sell playing time to an elite kid if he's going to be stuck behind Devon. But Self has a good message to sell if he's already looking for his replacement with the expectation he's leaving and the options behind him are unproven freshman right now. There's always a chance a kid will be scared by the fact Self does have a few options on the roster but what can ya do. It's recruiting. That's why KU rarely goes after just one guy at a position.
Your 100 % right if Devon was coming back - -and your 100% right we don't have to worry about that - -we know he is gone. - but if he was coming back - -no way would KU be recruiting a player of the caliber of Nix OR Love - - - But Devon isn't coming back thus recruiting others like Nix & Love
Even with the 3 that was mentioned - If I were Nix or Love I wouldn't be scared away for the opportunity to play with a blue blood program because of the other 3 that was mentioned. - I would have enough confidence in myself if I were as good asa people say - or if I felt I was that good - -I sure wouldn't run from an offer from KU because of McBride - - Garett - -or Harris - - if someone was to tell me he wouldn't or couldn't beat these guys out for minutes - -then there is one of two things - -Either I'm not as good as being hyped -or I don't want to work for the position - me - -I would let my game do the talking against those 3 - - AND FEEL PRETTY GOOD ABOUT MY CHANCES. -- -rock chalk all day long baby
@jayballer73 Which is what I am getting at, many highly ranked players want to be all but guaranteed a starting spot. Maybe Nix and Love don't fit into that category, hope they don't, but if they do they might look at a point guard position that is already 3-deep if counting Garrett as a bit too deep.
Hell, I hope we do sign Nix or Love, and definitely want to sign Thompson who would get immediate PT at the 2, but the 1 position is more problematic due to the depth. Should we offer them? No doubt about it. But this isn't the playground, "I'll put my game up against all comers! I'm the Man, it is me vs. You!" More problematic than that. They believe their college choice to be an audition for the NBA, ofcourse they're gonna take a look at who else and how many others are already there. We're crowded at the point, that is just a fact.
Marco said:
@jayballer73 Which is what I am getting at, many highly ranked players want to be all but guaranteed a starting spot. Maybe Nix and Love don't fit into that category, hope they don't, but if they do they might look at a point guard position that is already 3-deep if counting Garrett as a bit too deep.
Hell, I hope we do sign Nix or Love, and definitely want to sign Thompson who would get immediate PT at the 2, but the 1 position is more problematic due to the depth. Should we offer them? No doubt about it. But this isn't the playground, "I'll put my game up against all comers! I'm the Man, it is me vs. You!" More problematic than that. They believe their college choice to be an audition for the NBA, ofcourse they're gonna take a look at who else and how many others are already there. We're crowded at the point, that is just a fact.
good we can agree - -to disagree - - I just don't see it that way sorry
Aren’t the minutes all but guaranteed if those three are the only competition?
@jayballer73 Garrett, Harris, and McBride isn't "set". We need a Nix.
Nix and Love. There’s plenty of room. Self’s system works best with 2 point guards on the floor.
dylans said:
Aren’t the minutes all but guaranteed if those three are the only competition?
Pretty much - -that's why I would be saying if I'm Nix or Love those three sure wouldn't be scaring me from not coming don't care how deep the position is. - -Let those three worrying about Minutes - -I'd be knowing I've got mine. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I get what your saying. You want the elite kids to come in and earn their keep. If they are afraid of competition then you get a good glimpse at their state of mind and maybe those kids are not a fit for a tough nosed coach like Self. A kid like Nix is probably only in College 1 year so positioning his brand is important.
Even if Devon was coming back another year I think Caleb Love would still be a major target. He's a combo guard in my eyes and we know the value those can have on this team. It might be harder to sell with Devon back but I think he's comfortable playing either guard spot. Should be interesting
KK Robinson cut his list to 7 with KU among them. #9 ranked PG in the 2020 class. A mix of South to Midwest programs for him. KK is an Arkansas native and is being recruited by Norm.
Arkansas, KU, Iowa St, Illinois, Vandy, TCU & Texas A&M in the mix.
I wonder if we get him on an official. KK is a smooth lefty with good athleticism. Film is good
If KU pushes they can get him. Robinson and McBride are tight. But he’s also down the board a ways.
Adam Miller will visit KU. Date TBD. KU or Illinois, right?
FarmerJayhawk said:
If KU pushes they can get him. Robinson and McBride are tight. But he’s also down the board a ways.
I say we sign (no-brainer) the most high-profile point that we can get. Bill runs pretty much a three-guard set, I get that, so question. Do you think McBride and Harris are more than serviceable? I.e. can they as sophomores get us to where we want to go, which is always a conference and national 'chip? Where do you think they will play? 1, 2 or three? Who do you think we have more than just a chance to sign? If you say Nix - despite some of my posts - I would certainly not be disappointed. I want Thompson bigtime but he is a two, I'm talking PGs.
Marco said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
If KU pushes they can get him. Robinson and McBride are tight. But he’s also down the board a ways.
I say we try to sign as high-profile a point as we can. Bill runs pretty much a three-guard set, I get that, so question. Do you think McBride and Harris are more than serviceable? I.e. can they as sophomores get us to where we want to go, which is always a conference and national 'chip? Where do you think they will play? 1, 2 or three? Who do you think we have more than just a chance to sign? If you say Nix - despite some of my posts - I would certainly not be disappointed. I want Thompson bigtime but he is a two, I'm talking PGs.
Caleb Love
FarmerJayhawk said:
Adam Miller will visit KU. Date TBD. KU or Illinois, right?
forgot about Miller. Lots of options it looks like for KU at the moment
Kcmatt7 said:
Marco said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
If KU pushes they can get him. Robinson and McBride are tight. But he’s also down the board a ways.
I say we try to sign as high-profile a point as we can. Bill runs pretty much a three-guard set, I get that, so question. Do you think McBride and Harris are more than serviceable? I.e. can they as sophomores get us to where we want to go, which is always a conference and national 'chip? Where do you think they will play? 1, 2 or three? Who do you think we have more than just a chance to sign? If you say Nix - despite some of my posts - I would certainly not be disappointed. I want Thompson bigtime but he is a two, I'm talking PGs.
Caleb Love
I hear you, Thompson is starting to look a bit problematic, isn't he?
Marco said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
If KU pushes they can get him. Robinson and McBride are tight. But he’s also down the board a ways.
I say we sign (no-brainer) the most high-profile point that we can get. Bill runs pretty much a three-guard set, I get that, so question. Do you think McBride and Harris are more than serviceable? I.e. can they as sophomores get us to where we want to go, which is always a conference and national 'chip? Where do you think they will play? 1, 2 or three? Who do you think we have more than just a chance to sign? If you say Nix - despite some of my posts - I would certainly not be disappointed. I want Thompson bigtime but he is a two, I'm talking PGs.
Trotting out Harris and McBride as our starting guards next season would absolutely terrify me. Harris is an old school PG. He'll only play on the ball. McBride is more versatile, but it'll be hard to have them both on the floor given their slight stature. KU has a good chance (i.e. I think KU is in the top 3, will get a visit, and could close) at Thompson, Nix, Miller, Love, and Robinson. I think they want at least 2, maybe 3 of that group depending on how the youngsters develop.
My preference is Nix and Thompson. Both have great size and have complementary skillsets. Nix a traditional PG (probably the best passer in HS basketball) and Thompson is a scorer who can really shoot. Love is right behind them given his stupid wingspan (6'9), athleticism, and developing offensive game.
BeddieKU23 said:
I get what your saying. You want the elite kids to come in and earn their keep. If they are afraid of competition then you get a good glimpse at their state of mind and maybe those kids are not a fit for a tough nosed coach like Self. A kid like Nix is probably only in College 1 year so positioning his brand is important.
Even if Devon was coming back another year I think Caleb Love would still be a major target. He's a combo guard in my eyes and we know the value those can have on this team. It might be harder to sell with Devon back but I think he's comfortable playing either guard spot. Should be interesting
See you understand what I'm trying to say. May not be the best in trying to express what I'm trying to get across - -but what you say - -ya that's What I'm trying to say. - I've always looked at it this way.
If your that so called stud - -getting all the hype/praise poured on you fro these so called recruiting experts - -if your that good - -then you sure in the hell shouldn't be scared of competition proving that it's your time - -your position to lose - and if like you say if they run from that - -you do get a good look at their state of mind. - That's exactly it - -I DON'T want some 5 star stud that just thinks they should walk right in and just have the position given to them.
So if just because we are deep or so called deep at that position with McBride - - Garrett - - Harris there - you won't come? - -Good -- & Good luck - -I DON'T WANT YOU PERIOD. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Marco said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Marco said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
If KU pushes they can get him. Robinson and McBride are tight. But he’s also down the board a ways.
I say we try to sign as high-profile a point as we can. Bill runs pretty much a three-guard set, I get that, so question. Do you think McBride and Harris are more than serviceable? I.e. can they as sophomores get us to where we want to go, which is always a conference and national 'chip? Where do you think they will play? 1, 2 or three? Who do you think we have more than just a chance to sign? If you say Nix - despite some of my posts - I would certainly not be disappointed. I want Thompson bigtime but he is a two, I'm talking PGs.
Caleb Love
I hear you, Thompson is starting to look a bit problematic, isn't he?
I don't have a good read on the situation. Seems like he's Nike bound, but things can change fast... A bag of cash can travel mighty fast down I-35.
Let's see, we'll lose Dotson and Moss, Agbaji too maybe - guys, trust me, if we sign Nix and either Thompson or Love I would not be the least bit disappointed!
KU gets the last visit for Caleb Love. October 12-13.
FarmerJayhawk said:
KU gets the last visit for Caleb Love. October 12-13.
Sounds like UNC is the runaway favorite however.
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
KU gets the last visit for Caleb Love. October 12-13.
Sounds like UNC is the runaway favorite however.
Bossi thinks Kansas. I’ve heard the staff likes their spot as well. Visits will be huge.
@FarmerJayhawk @BShark
Is there a heavy "swoosh" influence at work with Love?
Little interesting to hear. - - Off Kentucky Board , article where Nix says he STILL would like a visit to UK.
Their posters saying looks like Cal isn't even really interested that much about him -Saying it's looking like they are going to be really Guard Top Heavy
They talk like they are more interested in Christopher @ Point And Green at the SG - saying they already have Boston - - Good chance Quickly is back -Juzang good chance he will return - -possibility of Allen back - -and then Clark good chance of him re-classifying and thinkin they have a great shot at him
Sounds fine with me - -be just one less School we would have to go up against for the possibility of coming. - -Talking about Nix is really big/solid - - great passer - - but knock on him I guess is his jump shot -- has no shot -- - well we shall see how it turns out - -hopefully we can get a visit from him - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Have we heard anymore on the JT Thor thing? - -Do we know is he going to visit or what? - -Do we want? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Anybody else heard anything on a offer to Javante Brown ? = - - -KU - - Texas A & M - - - U Conn - - -Indiana - - -Marquette - - Stanford -- & Purdue - -7 footer - -I looked and off 247 he like ranked 115 th? - - ummmmm - this is what we want? - - just curious - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Hawk8086 said:
@FarmerJayhawk @BShark
Is there a heavy "swoosh" influence at work with Love?
Haven’t heard of anything out of the ordinary.
@jayballer73 Thor will visit. Not sure when. Could be Late Night.
Not much will happen with Brown unless (until?) he reclassifies to 2020.
FarmerJayhawk said:
@jayballer73 Thor will visit. Not sure when. Could be Late Night.
Not much will happen with Brown unless (until?) he reclassifies to 2020.
Would we want Brown - looks like he might be a project - -4 yr player - -any info on him?
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
@jayballer73 Thor will visit. Not sure when. Could be Late Night.
Not much will happen with Brown unless (until?) he reclassifies to 2020.
Would we want Brown - looks like he might be a project - -4 yr player - -any info on him?
All I really know is he’s very large and very Canadian
FarmerJayhawk said:
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
@jayballer73 Thor will visit. Not sure when. Could be Late Night.
Not much will happen with Brown unless (until?) he reclassifies to 2020.
Would we want Brown - looks like he might be a project - -4 yr player - -any info on him?
All I really know is he’s very large and very Canadian
Which Brown?
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
@jayballer73 Thor will visit. Not sure when. Could be Late Night.
Not much will happen with Brown unless (until?) he reclassifies to 2020.
Would we want Brown - looks like he might be a project - -4 yr player - -any info on him?
All I really know is he’s very large and very Canadian
Which Brown?
Javonte.
I read yesterday that Nix was going to cut his list to 5 today. Has anyone seen anything on that?
Also we made the top 10 for Jaemyn Brakefield. Bot sure how big of a player KU is in that one though.
Woodrow said:
I read yesterday that Nix was going to cut his list to 5 today. Has anyone seen anything on that?
Also we made the top 10 for Jaemyn Brakefield. Bot sure how big of a player KU is in that one though.
Brakefield is a big take.
Woodrow said:
I read yesterday that Nix was going to cut his list to 5 today. Has anyone seen anything on that?
Also we made the top 10 for Jaemyn Brakefield. Bot sure how big of a player KU is in that one though.
He announced it's happening. Prediction: Kentucky, Maryland, Alabama, KU, UCLA.
Woodrow said:
I read yesterday that Nix was going to cut his list to 5 today. Has anyone seen anything on that?
Also we made the top 10 for Jaemyn Brakefield. Bot sure how big of a player KU is in that one though.
I don't think we are a player for Brakefield - -interesting to see we even made the top 10. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Anybody know for sure exactly how serious things are with RJ Davis? - - I mean are we in any kind of shape with him or what? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
jayballer73 said:
Anybody know for sure exactly how serious things are with RJ Davis? - - I mean are we in any kind of shape with him or what? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Definitely behind a handful of guys on our board.
FarmerJayhawk said:
jayballer73 said:
Anybody know for sure exactly how serious things are with RJ Davis? - - I mean are we in any kind of shape with him or what? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Definitely behind a handful of guys on our board.
ya I didn't think he was tip top - - good player but think we have other options
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Woodrow said:
I read yesterday that Nix was going to cut his list to 5 today. Has anyone seen anything on that?
Also we made the top 10 for Jaemyn Brakefield. Bot sure how big of a player KU is in that one though.
He announced it's happening. Prediction: Kentucky, Maryland, Alabama, KU, UCLA.
Nailed it!
Woodrow said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Woodrow said:
I read yesterday that Nix was going to cut his list to 5 today. Has anyone seen anything on that?
Also we made the top 10 for Jaemyn Brakefield. Bot sure how big of a player KU is in that one though.
He announced it's happening. Prediction: Kentucky, Maryland, Alabama, KU, UCLA.
Nailed it!
Yesssss. Still got it. UCLA, UK, and KU is the “list within the list” IMO. Kentucky hasn’t offered yet and is in the top 5.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Kentucky hasn’t offered yet and is in the top 5.
Omegalul.
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Kentucky hasn’t offered yet and is in the top 5.
Omegalul.
Jalen Green is their big target though.
@FarmerJayhawk Stated this sometime back. - - - off their Board - - they don't think Cal is as interested in Nix as Nix - - -is in UK.
They are more focused on Christopher @ PG they say and Green at SG. - -Guard top heavy.
Already have Boston - -Quickley probably returning - -Clark re-classifying -I think in less UK misses on these others - - we aren't gonna have to worry about them.
Just because a player lists his top five - -doesn't mean he is a school's top 5 - -Kentucky has other interest at this point - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer73 100% agree. If it’s a fall decision, it won’t be UK. Nix was at LA today for an official, but still working on scheduling one to KU. It wouldn’t surprise me to see Nix and Thompson visit the same weekend to develop some chemistry, and KU is the only school they have in common.
Love looks nice. Real nice. Is there a legit chance KU lands him?
FarmerJayhawk said:
@jayballer73 100% agree. If it’s a fall decision, it won’t be UK. Nix was at LA today for an official, but still working on scheduling one to KU. It wouldn’t surprise me to see Nix and Thompson visit the same weekend to develop some chemistry, and KU is the only school they have in common.
That would be a nice combo to land for sure - - not feeling as good as I was about Thompson - -sounds like Okie-State trying to slither him in with oh what's his name? - - Cunningham? - - is that it ? - -can't remember - but looks like those two are bud's - I mean still feel fairly good on him but not like I did. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
dylans said:
Love looks nice. Real nice. Is there a legit chance KU lands him?
Just me? - - feels like w stand a fairly decent chance. - Wouldn't say we wee a clear cut leader by any means - But think we are right there. - -
Actually though I think we stand a better chance at landing Nix then Love. - -You wouldn't hear me bitching about that though if that turned out to be the case. - -I think Both are pretty dam good players - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
dylans said:
Love looks nice. Real nice. Is there a legit chance KU lands him?
I think we do and the last visit could be key here. Some recent chatter that UNC leads. Hopefully he takes all his visits.
Nix and Thompson or Nix and Love, would take - bigtime! - any combination of both, perhaps throwing in a Brakefield and Garcia for good measure.
Marco said:
Nix and Thompson or Nix and Love, would take - bigtime! - any combination of both, perhaps throwing in a Brakefield and Garcia for good measure.
I think our chances for Brakefield are next to none - -feel between those two Garcia is the better bet
Well Nix just committed to UCLA. Damn.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Well Nix just committed to UCLA. Damn.
So much for the visit.
So dumb. Why even come out with a top 5 and then commit the next day...
I was going to post yesterday I would be surprised if he let Cali without committing. Once there was chatter UCLA led and him taking the first visit there with no other scheduled visits. Made a ton of sense.
Woodrow said:
So dumb. Why even come out with a top 5 and then commit the next day...
Better then stringing along programs during visits
BeddieKU23 said:
Woodrow said:
So dumb. Why even come out with a top 5 and then commit the next day...
Better then stringing along programs during visits
Down the list of targets we go.
@BeddieKU23 Oh I agree 100%. Just don't see the need to come out with a list. Just go take your visit and commit.
I hope the staff is prioritizing Love and Thompson.
Woodrow said:
@BeddieKU23 Oh I agree 100%. Just don't see the need to come out with a list. Just go take your visit and commit.
I hope the staff is prioritizing Love and Thompson.
I hope so, too.......
Okay,,,,, so much for Nix. Time to concentrate on Garcia, Love and or Thompson, and Brakefield - and add a couple of top one hundreds...
Not getting any of them imo but esp not JB who will be at Kentucky.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Well Nix just committed to UCLA. Damn.
Well Holy bat crap - - batman -- sure me look good - -I had just stated earlier that I thought we had a better chance for nix then love - - - goes to show how much I know.
Had just read the article had he had broke down his 5 schools - -talked about how KU & Kentucky was dream schools -- guess since he thought he couldn't get his dream school as he was wanting to visit Kentucky bad -but again not sure they were as interested in him as him them - - since that didn't happen he decided on a Nightmare instead. - - He talked about Cronin changing from slow to fast - -well goodie. - NEXT - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BShark said:
Not getting any of them imo but esp not JB who will be at Kentucky.
He just cut them my dude.
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
Not getting any of them imo but esp not JB who will be at Kentucky.
He just cut them my dude.
Must've been thinking of some other kid that's a uk lock. Honestly a bit annoying to sift through because some number of people act like anyone uk shows interest in is a "lock".
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
Not getting any of them imo but esp not JB who will be at Kentucky.
He just cut them my dude.
Must've been thinking of some other kid that's a uk lock. Honestly a bit annoying to sift through because some number of people act like anyone uk shows interest in is a "lock".
Yet another example of teenage kids right? - - I mean just another example - -Nix just listed his 5 yesterday and commits today to UCLA - -and JB just listed his top 10 yesterday at least that's how zags had the story - listed his top 10 yesterday and now you say he cut Kentucky today? - or am I missing something here - if he did - -that's crazy. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BShark said:
@jayballer73 https://www.aseaofblue.com/2019/8/19/20812948/uk-basketball-recruiting-jaemyn-brakefield-kansas-jayhawks-ucla-bruins ↗
Just read their board - - they had been on him hard early then backed off some. - - Said good player for someone.
Read an article from Brian Rauf from fan sided - -he made his prediction on where the top 20 players of the 2020 class would land - - giving a scouting recruit for each and every one and prediction where they would land.
Right off kind of funny - -he predicted that he thought Nix would end up at KU.
He says he think s Caleb Love will end up at Louisville. - - Says all three schools have a need for him - - Louisville - - - North Carolina - - - & KU -- -KU obviously because with Devon gone next year he could slide right in - -But just thinks with Mack at Louisville and how he has been able to recruit referring to pretty dam good class of 2019 - really likes Mack - -thinks that will be his landing spot.
He DID say he thinks Thompson - - will end up at KU. - -he said both in state Oklahoma schools have a solid chance of landing him BUT he thinks with his dad's connection with Coach Self that it will be the edge to land him at KU. Talks about KU having a hole at Shooting Guard next year.
His Breakdown of Bryce is - - -- needs to get stronger - -Yet says :
Bryce can fill it up from the outside - - - -Can kill an opponent by attacking the paint - - Can beat them everywhere in between - - - Very crafty - - wide array of moves - - -Quality shots no matter what the defense does -- -floater - - -runners - - -fade away' s -- step backs - - has it all - - I like the sounds of that - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Another article that I found pretty interesting - came of UK board. - -Like I had mentioned - -Nix like them - not sure how sold they were on him - -has no outside shot at this point. - is suppose to be his weakness. - -said UK never offered -and Nix announcing his top five hoping to pull and offer from UK.
Article I read had to deal with UCLA - a Writer from the Mercury News said that UCLA was in real danger of being ruled ineligible for the tournament in 2020-21 due to the programs APR Score.
The APR score is the metric the NCAA uses to gauge academic performance in College sports - - -hmmmmm
Every year each School gets an APR score that is then combined with past results and used to calculate a single year multi year score. When the NCAA released the new APR scores for the 2017-18 year UCLA multi year score was 933. - - - -That was 3 points above the cutoff for staying eligible for postseason play - -yet Nix goes to UCLA - - interesting. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Let's be honest, many of this past season's and current recruiting whiffs are due to our not being able to pay them much of anything while the NCAA is still sniffing around looking for something that they will not find. No bother though, our team is and will continue to be just fine.
Woodrow said:
@BeddieKU23 Oh I agree 100%. Just don't see the need to come out with a list. Just go take your visit and commit.
I hope the staff is prioritizing Love and Thompson.
I think farmer reported recently he thought KU cooled on Nix and that could have been to finding out UCLA was a heavy choice. Regardless its kids being kids, annoying but it's what we sign up for today following how things go down
I follow trends as well, but take more stock from in who we have coming back and in what positions Coach may have stockpiled young talent.
That being said, I think that we need a power forward and center, and if we can add a couple (Thompson would be a bigtime pickup!) of long guards then I would be more than stoked.
BeddieKU23 said:
Woodrow said:
@BeddieKU23 Oh I agree 100%. Just don't see the need to come out with a list. Just go take your visit and commit.
I hope the staff is prioritizing Love and Thompson.
I think farmer reported recently he thought KU cooled on Nix and that could have been to finding out UCLA was a heavy choice. Regardless its kids being kids, annoying but it's what we sign up for today following how things go down
I just hadn’t heard much lately linking KU and Nix. It’s full speed ahead on Thompson and Love. RJ Davis looks like Pitt or UNC. KK Robinson could get a longer look now.
@FarmerJayhawk KK Robinson would be a major get. What are your thoughts on some of the big guys (who do you think we stand a good chance of getting)? It seems with Dok and Mitch (if he doesn't redshirt) and maybe even Silvio leaving that we need to fill at the very least two scholarships in the frontcourt.
FarmerJayhawk said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Woodrow said:
@BeddieKU23 Oh I agree 100%. Just don't see the need to come out with a list. Just go take your visit and commit.
I hope the staff is prioritizing Love and Thompson.
I think farmer reported recently he thought KU cooled on Nix and that could have been to finding out UCLA was a heavy choice. Regardless its kids being kids, annoying but it's what we sign up for today following how things go down
I just hadn’t heard much lately linking KU and Nix. It’s full speed ahead on Thompson and Love. RJ Davis looks like Pitt or UNC. KK Robinson could get a longer look now.
Sounds like they kind of knew what direction he was going in.
One of KK, Love & Thompson would be great.
Thompson up to #14 in the new 247 rankings. Really hope Bill can land him.
Jalen Green is considering skipping College and going pro for a year. #3 player overall KU not a factor but would be a big blow to UK and FSU among others that want him badly. Go get your money young man and don't waste college's time
Woodrow said:
Thompson up to #14 in the new 247 rankings. Really hope Bill can land him.
Big time.
Love at #21 as well to note
It doesn’t seem like Harris will be in 2019 unless it’s midyear. Could be wrong, but haven’t heard anything lately.
@FarmerJayhawk I heard today, 2020
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@FarmerJayhawk I heard today, 2020
So what is the plan here? Going to a prep school now?
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@Crimsonorblue22 isn’t he at sunrise?
No he's not at Sunrise, I m hearing that Ty Berry is the point guard up there, so I think that Harris is at KU but he's redshirting this year
Read where DaRon Holmes will re-classify and be in the 2020 recruiting class. - - -A 6'8 PF from Goodyear Arizona. Ranked 33rd in the 2021 class
DaRon - -made an un-official visit to KU on Monday - - both his parents went to KU. - -lived in Kansas until 7th grade year. - said how he felt honored to receive a offer from KU.
Anthony Ray - -a writer for Arizona preps stated he has rarely seen a prospect like Holmes take the floor on Arizona Hardwood - - -broke down Daron like this : - - Superb length - - -& versatility - - - complete mis match problem , - - -able to handle the ball in open court - - -very long and rangy , runs the floor like a guard - - athletic post performer - - score inside and out - -good shooter with range - -excellent feet and hands. - - DaRon says no he isn't like a lot of others big that wants to play guard - - -he wants to play Big where they want him to play.
Offers from : -- Arizona , USC , California , WF , Vandy , Pepperdine , Marquette , Ariz St , Texas Tech Ku , and others
Think we have a pretty good chance if we want - sounds like pretty decent player. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer73 Yea, that is a kid Bill needs to lock up. He would be a great addition and a nice start to the 2020 class.
Does KU have a guy signed for 2020 or was that for 2021?
dylans said:
Does KU have a guy signed for 2020 or was that for 2021?
2022 technically but it's believed he will reclass to 21.
BShark said:
dylans said:
Does KU have a guy signed for 2020 or was that for 2021?
2022 technically but it's believed he will reclass to 21.
who is it that is going to re-classify to 2021?
FarmerJayhawk said:
It doesn’t seem like Harris will be in 2019 unless it’s midyear. Could be wrong, but haven’t heard anything lately.
Just read - - Harris made big jump in Rivals ranking. - -Went from unranked to 83rd.
Article said he still hasn't officially signed yet & is continuing to work to get things done so he can join the team in time for roster this month. - -He is not listed on the KU roster officially it said - -I wonder if he is going to be able to get it done? - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Tre White.
@jayballer73 Will come down to academics with Harris.
@FarmerJayhawk I'm really glad you're part of the board. You add a lot to our discussions.
I really like Harris. He's real smooth with the ball, passes beautifully... no look passes ... the whole shebang. He can drive to the basket and score, and seems to be able to hit a jumper. What I like best are those quick hands...picking off passes, and making steals and taking them the other way. Hopefully, he can build his body up without losing his quickness. In a couple years, the dude could be really good.
@KUSTEVE likewise! This is the best KU board I’ve been a part of. The quality of discourse is terrific.
I like him a lot as well. He’s got a bit of Aaron Miles to his game. He and Mackey are good complements. I very much hope he can get here in December. Sounds like August isn’t happening, but obviously I don’t know his schedule for sure.
Hopefully Harris can join this year. That would be ideal for the transition from Dotson to whatever options we have to play with.
BeddieKU23 said:
Hopefully Harris can join this year. That would be ideal for the transition from Dotson to whatever options we have to play with.
Sounds like the staff is very high on him.
https://247sports.com/college/kansas/board/103719/Contents/2020-recruiting-130979045/?page=21 ↗
:eyes:
JT Thor would be a great pick-up, and from there it would seem that we need one or two bigs (who is anyone's guess, don't seem to be in the lead for any). We need to sign atleast one long guard too, one that can shoot from anywhere.
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/mady-sissoko-232226 ↗
This guy is taking a official this weekend. First I have heard of him.
BYU is the rumored leader here, but KU has a shot.
FarmerJayhawk said:
BYU is the rumored leader here, but KU has a shot.
Any idea if he is into the mormon faith?
BeddieKU23 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
BYU is the rumored leader here, but KU has a shot.
Any idea if he is into the mormon faith?
Muslim, actually. I do think he’s a pretty religious kid.
Just read -- not 2020 recruit BUT - -read where Grady Dick is going to take a un-official for late night -- - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer73 "Dick, a 6-foot-5, 170-pound guard in the Class of 2022 from Wichita Collegiate, received a scholarship offer from the Jayhawks this summer and made a name for himself in the recruiting world with a solid summer when he showcased his extreme athleticism.
“This kid is a very skilled prospect who plays with a high motor and is ultra-aggressive on the court,” Kusports.com recruiting insider Matt Scott said.
Dick has teamed with fellow-Class of 2022 prospect Mark Mitchell, of Bishop Miege, on the summer circuit and is considered by many recruiting analysts to be a fast-riser in the class."
http://www2.kusports.com/weblogs/tale-tait/2019/aug/26/recruiting-update-in-state-prospect-grad/ ↗
If anyone would know about the real targets, it's Matt Scott.
BShark said:
http://www2.kusports.com/weblogs/tale-tait/2019/aug/26/recruiting-update-in-state-prospect-grad/ ↗
If anyone would know about the real targets, it's Matt Scott.
Saw all the one's he listed yesterday in his article
Here is a very good article about Gradey Dick. The kid is DYNAMIC ...
https://kansas.rivals.com/news/gradey-dick-has-a-strong-connection-to-kansas-and-other-programs ↗ ↗
The pull quote: "Don’t be surprised if Dick eventually emerges as one of the most heavily coveted prospects in the 2022 class when all is said and done."
Rumor is KK Robinson is transferring to Oak Hill to get more blue blood (read: Kansas) attention.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Rumor is KK Robinson is transferring to Oak Hill to get more blue blood (read: Kansas) attention.
Awesome.
Thoughts on the big visiting in late September?
FarmerJayhawk said:
Rumor is KK Robinson is transferring to Oak Hill to get more blue blood (read: Kansas) attention.
Good decision. KK on video looks a bit underrated. I would not be upset if Self made him a priority if a few other targets get caught up in swoosh money
I liked KK's tape a lot.... Would not be upset.
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Rumor is KK Robinson is transferring to Oak Hill to get more blue blood (read: Kansas) attention.
Awesome.
Thoughts on the big visiting in late September?
Honestly don’t know a ton. I saw Sunrise and assumed it was a nominal visit.
@FarmerJayhawk This kid from Aspire https://247sports.com/Player/Gethro-Muscadin-46057375/ ↗
BShark said:
@FarmerJayhawk This kid from Aspire https://247sports.com/Player/Gethro-Muscadin-46057375/ ↗
Right. He was at Sunrise last year so I assumed KU was window dressing. I'll poke around and see what I can find.
Saw a couple twitter highlights. Looks pretty athletic.
I can confirm he does not play the flute, a la the Jethro Tull frontman.
Kcmatt7 said:
I liked KK's tape a lot.... Would not be upset.
Right the tape looks good and he has size, athleticism and play making ability that seems to indicate he's better then his current ranking. I wonder if his highlights are not consistent enough or something. Certainly would seem to have the talent of a Top 50 guy
So Mady Sissako will be on Campus this weekend. 6'8 - - 225 pound Center listed Coach Self how football can be a recruiting tool hoping for a good turnout for the game.
Mady said that coming to United States that KU was his dream School. - - Yet doesn't mean anything special just because it was his dream school , says he wants to go where they want him the most and where he fits in.
Mady is considered an Elite Shot Blocker. - A writer after watching Mady at a recent event - -writer for Cats illustrated which is Kentucky writer said - - - Mady was one of the most dynamic shot blockers he has seen. - -calling them Volleyball spikes -- pinning against backboards and such - -Sounds like we could use him for sure - -talked about how he can bully his way to the basket
Ranked # 48 at the present up 31 spots in latest ranking - Already visited BYU - -Colorado - - Michigan State - - UCLA - And plans on working a visit to Memphis
jayballer73 said:
Just read -- not 2020 recruit BUT - -read where Grady Dick is going to take a un-official for late night -- - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I think Dick would be a huge pick up 😃. But seriously, looks like a baller. Yet another great in-state player that has grown up watching KU. We have got to sign those kinds of players. I'm still not giving up on Ty Berry.
Have some sneaky feeling we could wrap up his recruitment this weekend. No info, just a hunch with him taking the visit so early. We'll see
Bryce Thompson is cutting his list of schools tonight at 7 per his Twitter.
Woodrow said:
Bryce Thompson is cutting his list of schools tonight at 7 per his Twitter.
It would be pretty shocking if KU weren't on it.
Moses Moody cut his list to 7. USC, Michigan, Ohio St., Oregon, Arkansas, Florida, and KU.
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/moses-moody-202543 ↗
Woodrow said:
Moses Moody cut his list to 7. USC, Michigan, Ohio St., Oregon, Arkansas, Florida, and KU.
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/moses-moody-202543 ↗
Hmm. USC Adidas as well? Seems like a nice mix.
Woodrow said:
Bryce Thompson is cutting his list of schools tonight at 7 per his Twitter.
KU, UNC, OU, OSU, Michigan St, window dressing, window dressing
BeddieKU23 said:
Have some sneaky feeling we could wrap up his recruitment this weekend. No info, just a hunch with him taking the visit so early. We'll see
I understand what your saying my friend.- - Boy that would be a really nice pick up if we could somehow manage to get him to commit this weekend while he was here huh. - - I hope maybe you have a unknown wisdom like a physic lol - -wish I could have that same hunch- - -we shall see , says he has a great motor running all the time elite rim defender - -I like that. - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Woodrow said:
Moses Moody cut his list to 7. USC, Michigan, Ohio St., Oregon, Arkansas, Florida, and KU.
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/moses-moody-202543 ↗
He is visiting Ohio State this weekend
Marco said:
jayballer73 said:
Just read -- not 2020 recruit BUT - -read where Grady Dick is going to take a un-official for late night -- - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I think Dick would be a huge pick up 😃. But seriously, looks like a baller. Yet another great in-state player that has grown up watching KU. We have got to sign those kinds of players. I'm still not giving up on Ty Berry.
ummmm I see what you are saying here lol - - nice - -hum - got a friend who had the last name of head - -legally got it changed lol - - -just saying and moving on lol - - - -
FarmerJayhawk said:
Woodrow said:
Bryce Thompson is cutting his list of schools tonight at 7 per his Twitter.
KU, UNC, OU, OSU, Michigan St, window dressing, window dressing
You don't think KU has a shot with Thompson?
Woodrow said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Woodrow said:
Bryce Thompson is cutting his list of schools tonight at 7 per his Twitter.
KU, UNC, OU, OSU, Michigan St, window dressing, window dressing
You don't think KU has a shot with Thompson?
I could be wrong but I don't think that is what Farmer was saying - -I could be all wrong but I think that is who he is predicting will be some of his final schools - - -cause I knw Bryce is for sure interested in Okie St - -and is interested in KU - -some say that OU is even leading right now - -I think possibly Farmer is saying these will be final 5
Woodrow said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Woodrow said:
Bryce Thompson is cutting his list of schools tonight at 7 per his Twitter.
KU, UNC, OU, OSU, Michigan St, window dressing, window dressing
You don't think KU has a shot with Thompson?
Oh, I definitely do! Like @jayballer73 said, it's just my guess for his list. I know those 5 will be on it, not sure on the other 2. I think KU, UNC, and Okie Lite are the top 3, not sure on the order. Earlier this summer it looked like it would be KU or UNC and he'd commit before school started, but now it looks like he'll take 5 officials and decide around the early signing period.
Just a hunch. Visiting his "dream school" on a football weekend should be a good atmosphere and good visit for him. I don't know whether they tried to get him to visit later (like for Late Night) or closer to the signing period so I'm just connecting dots that he might be closer to a decision and if the visit goes well might end in our favor.
Having seen the kid play this past year on TV I wouldn't call him elite at anything. He definitely is in the mold of a Diallo or a Oscar Tschiebwe. He is a bit raw offensively but is active and gets up and down the floor, plays above the rim and can definitely alter and block shots at a very good rate. He's definitely someone Self likes to have on the roster
@FarmerJayhawk Gotcha. I took it as you thought KU was just window dressing.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Woodrow said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Woodrow said:
Bryce Thompson is cutting his list of schools tonight at 7 per his Twitter.
KU, UNC, OU, OSU, Michigan St, window dressing, window dressing
You don't think KU has a shot with Thompson?
Oh, I definitely do! Like @jayballer73 said, it's just my guess for his list. I know those 5 will be on it, not sure on the other 2. I think KU, UNC, and Okie Lite are the top 3, not sure on the order. Earlier this summer it looked like it would be KU or UNC and he'd commit before school started, but now it looks like he'll take 5 officials and decide around the early signing period.
ya thanks glad I wasn't wrong lol. -- Agree with you I think it's still gonna be us 3 probably - - really little more worried about Okie St now - I mean not OVERLY worried but still - -also like you said I had been hearing a lot about UNC but yet not as much lately
BeddieKU23 said:
Just a hunch. Visiting his "dream school" on a football weekend should be a good atmosphere and good visit for him. I don't know whether they tried to get him to visit later (like for Late Night) or closer to the signing period so I'm just connecting dots that he might be closer to a decision and if the visit goes well might end in our favor.
Having seen the kid play this past year on TV I wouldn't call him elite at anything. He definitely is in the mold of a Diallo or a Oscar Tschiebwe. He is a bit raw offensively but is active and gets up and down the floor, plays above the rim and can definitely alter and block shots at a very good rate. He's definitely someone Self likes to have on the roster
I was wondering the way they was describing him - -was wonder about the other kid from WV - the shot blocker Konate? - would be nice - -you think he compares to him any at all? - -they talk about how he has a high motor runs all the time curious?
Dam I swear to God - - all the Phog has become is one Giant Cluster F - - - . - -these idiots on threads for the most part all they do is trade insults at one another that has NOTHING to do about the thread - -like one said Oh I'm sorry I thought this thread was on 2020 recruiting - - carry on - -Couldn't agree more with him - -I mean come on , at one time you could find some helpful insight - - -not any more - - just sad. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Hey! I got the 5. Also, Bryce coming for Late Night. https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/bryce-thompson-finalizes-his-school-list-visits-scheduled ↗
FarmerJayhawk said:
Hey! I got the 5. Also, Bryce coming for Late Night. https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/bryce-thompson-finalizes-his-school-list-visits-scheduled ↗
Nothing like taking a gamble on your choices lmao - -just messin with ya bud - - I was right there with ya. - -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
FarmerJayhawk said:
Hey! I got the 5. Also, Bryce coming for Late Night. https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/bryce-thompson-finalizes-his-school-list-visits-scheduled ↗
I wish I felt more confident with Bryce for us. - - I think we have our work cut out for us with the Oklahoma schools - -- Especially Okie State , even more with them then Lonnie BUT you never know.
Not saying we can't and won't get his commitment but just don't have a solid feel as of yet anyways. Okie State scares me on this one , I think if they get that other kid what - -Cunningham? - -could be trouble for us if that happens with Bryce talk of them being a package at Okie St. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Gethro Muscaden 6'10 Center - -visiting KU on Sept 20th - - - -scheduled for K-State on the 6th of Sept - -and Texas Tech on the 5th of October. - - - UNLV , U Conn , VCU , New Mexico also recruiting him
DawsonGarcia ( I would love to get this kid ) - -was at Minnesota last Night - -along with Ty Berry - -I don't think we are going to have much to do with Ty - just don't think we are that big of factor with him.
Saw where Maddy is Splitting his Visit this weekend - -Going to be here at KU this Weekend AND also Memphis this Weekend.
Bryce is at Texas this Weekend, then will visit North Carolina the 6-8th of Sept - - -then - - Okie St the 27 th - 29th of Sept - -KU on Oct 4th ( un-official ) - -Michigan St the 25th-27th of Oct - -even though Texas Tech didn't make his list of - -t final - -they say that Bryce may very well visit Tech
Said they had planned on committing early - -but now up in the air -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABYr. - -
@BeddieKU23 My inside source on Adam Miller (his mother) no longer works with me, but her friends tell me KU is no longer his top 5. Two Arizona schools for some rea$on that is a my$tery. If they're wrong, we're getting a great player.
@jayballer73 We know what happens when they go visit Memphis.
I'm sick today, so I might as well post videos.
Gradey Dick:
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Love me some Mady:
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I'm teaching this kid in 8th grade. Let's lock him up now!
wissox said:
@BeddieKU23 My inside source on Adam Miller (his mother) no longer works with me, but her friends tell me KU is no longer his top 5. Two Arizona schools for some rea$on that is a my$tery. If they're wrong, we're getting a great player.
Makes sense why we haven't heard KU connected with him this summer
wissox said:
I'm teaching this kid in 8th grade. Let's lock him up now!
If we don't land him, I'm holding you personally responsible.
starting to look like another odd year in getting involved or leading for recruits -were not leading for anyone at this point. - -Going to be another year where we scramble at the end?
jayballer73 said:
starting to look like another odd year in getting involved or leading for recruits -were not leading for anyone at this point. - -Going to be another year where we scramble at the end?
Bet on it. Maybe a surprise fall commit but as usual we have uncertainty at some positions with young guys waiting.
Welp , starting to look like Mady could end up at Michigan State - -# CB'S have been made SINCE his visit here and all 3 go to - - - -Michigan State
Man things have sure swayed the other way we use to have not nearly as much problem having to sweat out who we gonna be able to get - -Now looks like we have trouble even getting players ranked middle of the pack to come - -have to really work our ass off for that - -I DON'T GET IT
Confirmed he never visited Kansas. Michigan St. it is
jeez so much for that theory
@jayballer73 We're playing it straight, and they're not.
KUSTEVE said:
@jayballer73 We're playing it straight, and they're not.
I don't know about that chief.
When it comes down to get some guys, Self will do it.
Can't say I care for the way this recruiting has played out now going into this 2nd year - -last minute scrambles and looking that way again this year - - can't land or having trouble closing on the upper crust - and Now we can't even get a visit from the middle of the pack players - -WTH. - - ( Got a feeling some other Coach's doing a good selling job with this NCAA Scandal BS - and possible violations ) either that OR someone on this staff isn't getting the job done on these kids - -either way this is beginning to suck - -and I do mean suck.
Could be we are quite stacked already with many possible returning players from this year's team. Too many unknowns at this time, and higher ranked prospects want to start, and/or don't want to be the 7th or 8th player off the bench.
@jayballer73 maybe this is what we get building with multi-year guys. Just don't know where their ceiling is so all tiers wait and see.
Not worried.
hawkmoon2020 said:
Could be we are quite stacked already with many possible returning players from this year's team. Too many unknowns at this time, and higher ranked prospects want to start, and/or don't want to be the 7th or 8th player off the bench.
Great point.
Ryan over on the phog had a grim view of 2020 recruiting so far. Hearing crickets on what the staff feels confident in or even has a shot with.
It could be all about nothing or spot on.
Very weird that Mady didn't even follow through on his visit.
All the recent blurbs on Caleb Love are pro UNC.
Bryce Thompson isn't ending his recruitment anytime soon.
I would be very disappointed if we are in the spring with no commits.
KU recruited at a very high level for a very long time under Self. There's no question KU has been impacted by the FBI trials and this is the continued fall out. UNC went back to recruiting and landing the Cole Anthony & the Joel Berry's of the world as soon as the NCAA cleared them in the academic scandal. I fear KU won't be back to that level until the NCAA does or doesn't drop the hammer.
I'm not advocating for this but at some point Self may have to shake up his staff. He's been extremely fortunate to have Norm & T but very few elite programs keep the same staffs these days for extended periods of time. Fresh blood may make a difference as well. Again not saying it should happen but its an option the man in charge can make if he felt recruiting misses were a result of that
Louisville OUT on Caleb Love. KU or UNC. Neither would surprise me.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Louisville OUT on Caleb Love. KU or UNC. Neither would surprise me.
Is that what your hearing or is this posted somewhere? Haven't had the time to look
KUSTEVE said:
@jayballer73 We're playing it straight, and they're not.
Yeah, and we don't have much choice in doing so. The NCAA needs to remove its head out of its ass and wrap up their so-called investigation. Time for them to admit that they have - even if the judge had allowed access to the everything that in reality, as far as being true evidence, is nothing at all - only speculation and heresay.
hawkmoon2020 said:
Could be we are quite stacked already with many possible returning players from this year's team. Too many unknowns at this time, and higher ranked prospects want to start, and/or don't want to be the 7th or 8th player off the bench.
I tend to agree with you, have been saying the same for awhile. With Dave returning and, who knows, maybe even Silvio (even Mitch, if he redshirts), along with Enaruna and Wilson, Braun, Garrett and perhaps Agbaji, plus McBride and Harris I am not the least bit worried. Coach will sign a few players, we all know that, and they will be gamers.
If KU gets some Love, a swing big and a combo three point shooting guard that, my friends, would be a solid class.
BeddieKU23 said:
Ryan over on the phog had a grim view of 2020 recruiting so far. Hearing crickets on what the staff feels confident in or even has a shot with.
It could be all about nothing or spot on.Very weird that Mady didn't even follow through on his visit.
All the recent blurbs on Caleb Love are pro UNC.
Bryce Thompson isn't ending his recruitment anytime soon.
I would be very disappointed if we are in the spring with no commits.
KU recruited at a very high level for a very long time under Self. There's no question KU has been impacted by the FBI trials and this is the continued fall out. UNC went back to recruiting and landing the Cole Anthony & the Joel Berry's of the world as soon as the NCAA cleared them in the academic scandal. I fear KU won't be back to that level until the NCAA does or doesn't drop the hammer.
I'm not advocating for this but at some point Self may have to shake up his staff. He's been extremely fortunate to have Norm & T but very few elite programs keep the same staffs these days for extended periods of time. Fresh blood may make a difference as well. Again not saying it should happen but its an option the man in charge can make if he felt recruiting misses were a result of that
CB'S now rolling in for JT Thor to Okla State - - look out. - -if they land Cunningham & Thor -those to by themselves is a very solid class - - then if they top it off somehow by managing to get a commit out of Bryce - -which both Okla Schools are in on him really heavy - -IF they land him - - holy crap = =Okie State becomes an instant threat.
I'd be stunned if Love ended up anywhere but UNC from what I've been reading.
BeddieKU23 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Louisville OUT on Caleb Love. KU or UNC. Neither would surprise me.
Is that what your hearing or is this posted somewhere? Haven't had the time to look
Heard it this morning. Specifically Louisville had moved on to other PG targets. I agree with @BShark UNC is the leader in the clubhouse but it's not done until the blood dries
We made Mady Sissoko's final four as window dressing
And finally, Josh Hall canceled his visit to NC State. Some rumors out there he'll pop for Louisville but the plan all along has been wait until spring. So we'll see
FarmerJayhawk said:
We made Mady Sissoko's final four as window dressing
Big lols.
This is a weird recruiting period for KU. Honestly doesn't seem like KU is even trying that hard. But it could just be a product of having many incumbent players and the FBI crap finishing it's way into the plumbing.
I wouldn't be mad if the class ended up being something like KK Robinson and a decent looking big then retain everyone but Dot, Doke and Silvio. It's not a dream scenario but that team would be alright.
I was thinking about this earlier. Even if we sign NOBODY (not at all likely) we can start Harris, Garrett, Ochai, Wilson, and McCormack. That's not a terrible team. Depth obviously would be an issue, but the fact is we don't need a ton of bodies just to have them. We can be somewhat choosy and take the guys that fit. I think Bryce Thompson is the best fit since he's the premier scorer among our guard targets and we're right in the thick of it for him. Heard his leaders are KU, UNC, and OU. This was a week or so ago so idk if anything has changed. We can also wait and see on Isaiah Todd, who'd be a great fit next to Dave. Get those two and it's a top 5 team again.
FarmerJayhawk said:
We made Mady Sissoko's final four as window dressing
kind of funny we make his final four when he didn't even show up for his scheduled visit
@FarmerJayhawk Thompson and Todd would be the dream scenario.
You are right though KU doesn't have to add much so it makes sense to go after high impact players first and foremost.
Ok let's hear the theories - -the educated guesses - -the hunch - -personal opinions - -WHY ? - -why is recruiting seem to be such a struggle these last couple of years.
Not that long ago we were right there head to head battling with the elites - -Duke - - Kentucky -N Carolina's - -for top flight players
Now looks like it is trending that even Oklahoma St - -Memphis - and just about any other Joe Blow school is beating us out for guys. -- Soooo what the hell happened? - -John Q Public wants to know. - -Has Bill lost his luster/edge - - - is his staff getting stale? - -have they lost the fire in their gut? -There is something that just doesn't seem right. - -I mean NOW were even having trouble getting the 40-5o type ranked players in interest - -Are we focusing on the wrong guys? - - let's hear from others - -tell me whats going on - -what's the reasoning as to why this is happening - -it's looking like we have definitely lost or advantage over the Big 12 , Others are gaining ground - -Texas Tech - - hell Baylor has gotten better - - Thank GOD Shaka can't Coach worth a tinkers dam - -somehow he is still getting talent to go there - - WHY? - -who the frick knows. - - Somebody enlighten me on what the hell has happened - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Oklahoma State and Memphis are BIG MAJOR players now. Penny changed the game at Memphis.
BShark said:
Oklahoma State and Memphis are BIG MAJOR players now. Penny changed the game at Memphis.
So big that they have made this big of change for KU ?
@jayballer73 I think it’s a couple things. Obviously all the federal case BS hurt. @BShark is right, we would’ve gotten commitments from Tucker and Precious if not for Penny acting like he’s Tark the Shark. Another is the blessing/curse of the 2018 class. The staff absolutely killed it that year. Fall commits from Dave, Silvio (who later moved to 2017), Dotson, and Grimes. That essentially built the core and blocked some 2019 guys from playing time. Another is Doke’s injury. If you’re a big, why would you come to Kansas if there’s a decent chance two top 40 upperclassmen are coming back? We’re kind of in that situation in 2020. It’s not a done deal Ochai and Silvio leave after this year. Dave will likely return. If you’re Mady, MSU and BYU look a lot better from a PT standpoint since he’s signing in November. Finally, the lack of NBA studs compared to other blue bloods hurts. Who’s KU’s best perimeter player in the NBA? Wiggins? Yiiiikes. All these in a vacuum may seem relatively minor, but added together they leave KU out in the cold for a lot of top players.
FarmerJayhawk said:
@jayballer73 I think it’s a couple things. Obviously all the federal case BS hurt. @BShark is right, we would’ve gotten commitments from Tucker and Precious if not for Penny acting like he’s Tark the Shark. Another is the blessing/curse of the 2018 class. The staff absolutely killed it that year. Fall commits from Dave, Silvio (who later moved to 2017), Dotson, and Grimes. That essentially built the core and blocked some 2019 guys from playing time. Another is Doke’s injury. If you’re a big, why would you come to Kansas if there’s a decent chance two top 40 upperclassmen are coming back? We’re kind of in that situation in 2020. It’s not a done deal Ochai and Silvio leave after this year. Dave will likely return. If you’re Mady, MSU and BYU look a lot better from a PT standpoint since he’s signing in November. Finally, the lack of NBA studs compared to other blue bloods hurts. Who’s KU’s best perimeter player in the NBA? Wiggins? Yiiiikes. All these in a vacuum may seem relatively minor, but added together they leave KU out in the cold for a lot of top players.
The ONE big thing you mentioned has hurt us ALOT - - - more then some think. - - I think this NCAA/FBI - -BS has hurt us more then some realize. - - I think this opposing Coach's are playing this to the hilt exp ( -WHY you wanna go to a school that is gonna get slammed by the NCAA) - now I'm not saying that's happening that we are getting slammed - -BUT these other schools are running with this like Banchi's and playing it up for all it's worth twisting it in the favor - - Sucks it's a cut throat game.
Yet like someone else mentioned - - MAYBE it IS time for a Shakeup with our Coaching staff - - MAYBE we do need some new blood? - -Aaron Miles maybe - -maybe Jarrod come back on Staff? - -I dunno but seems like something needs to change - -were kinda falling off, again even struggling getting the 35-70 range players to even visit.
Someone mentioned this could be a surprise year where we land players that John Q Public has not even heard a whisper of - -just un-settling. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer73 For not only recruiting purposes but strengthening our D, a skakeup might be in order.
@BeddieKU23 Any guesses on how many scholarships will be available in 2020?
@KirkIsMyHinrich Greene cost us, Andrew White. HCBS and everyone else fell in love w/Greene's long-range and form.
A flea circus at best. Not sure5 why he jumped a good Nebraska team for6 Maryland5 bjut7 he did land a late 2nd round pick.
@jhawk7782 Helicopter dad situation with White. He got to star on a couple bad teams so at least there is that.
jhawk7782 said:
@BeddieKU23 Any guesses on how many scholarships will be available in 2020?
4 seems the bare minimum but there is a possibility its 5 or 6 which would really hurt next years team with the way recruiting is going.
3 Seniors leave for sure. Dotson is a near lock as well to jump early.
Agbaji with a big year might have a tough decision to make.
Silvio was out the door if he eligibility wasn't restored & with a big year might have some good options.
I personally think both have better then a 50% chance of returning next season but its too early to tell.
I'm hopeful we'll return a core of 9 guys after the season but anything can happen with transfers today.
BShark said:
@FarmerJayhawk Thompson and Todd would be the dream scenario.
You are right though KU doesn't have to add much so it makes sense to go after high impact players first and foremost.
There's a scenario where KU returns 9 of the 13 players under scholarship right now.
What if Agbaji & Silvio do not return next season and the 5 freshman see minimal playing time due to the core 8 veterans in front of them? That would change what KU needs right? If a Sr Garrett & a Jr McCormack are the upperclassmen left that's a really dangerous situation to be in.
Maybe the staff is recruiting (without success) in an aggressive nature to make sure such a scenario doesn't happen but that's not what it appears to be right now. Boy I hope they can land at least 1 signee in the fall that has high impact potential in year 1 to ease some concerns
Self to see Caleb Love tomorrow
Self is conducting a in home visit with Thompson today. He will be the first coach to see him during the beginning of this live period.
Also 7 foot big man Davion Bradford who plays for MOKAN is taking a unofficial to Late Night.
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/davion-bradford-185536 ↗
Not sure if this was posted but JT Thor announced his top 5 last week. Kentucky, UCLA, Georgia, Oklahoma State, and KU.
Woodrow said:
Self is conducting a in home visit with Thompson today. He will be the first coach to see him during the beginning of this live period.
Also 7 foot big man Davion Bradford who plays for MOKAN is taking a unofficial to Late Night.
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/davion-bradford-185536 ↗
Boynton was in literally at midnight. Self next after him.
Whew. Bradford is a big dude.
Bryce Thompson @b3thompson_ 55m
great in home visit with ku heart #rockchalk
Sissoko to Michigan St
Gonna be tough finding a quality big this year
KU will be at Oak Hill today to check in on KK Robinson.
BeddieKU23 said:
Sissoko to Michigan St
Gonna be tough finding a quality big this year
Your right my friend - - - maybe this 7 footer whz his name? - -Devion? - -project to go behind McCormack - looks like that's what we are going to have to be in on at the present
Ha , was just talking about finding big men this year for 2020. - -went to 247 and saw where we had a CB prediction for a kid - - 1st time I EVER heard his name mentioned this year - kind of weird how someone had said about how this could be a year where we don't hear anything about someone and that they might be the one's we land.
Not saying anything like that about the kid but just weird how this is now: - - Kid named Ryan Kalkbrenner - out of St Louis 6 '11 - - - -216 pounds - - a 4 * - - rated number 74 - - -by 247 sports.
Other Schools involved: - - Purdue which is leading right now at 57 % - - Cloudy/undecided at - - 29 % - - & KU at 14 % - - Dylan Prezkop made a KU prediction - -has a rating of 93 % correct - - other schools are Purdue - - - Stanford - - -Creighton - - KU - - & Cincinnati - -has a total of 17 offers - - just the 1st time I had seen this name - - we shall see. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Kalkbrenner is a really nice player. One of my best friends is at Purdue and told me he's THE GUY they want in that class.
Kalkbrenner has shot blocking skills but you put on the tape and you would be underwhelmed at a lot of things. Think Lucas with even less skill and mobility currently. Purdue has a knack for these types of bigs. The CB seems out of left field from someone who does that from time to time.
Missing out on Sissoko isn't the sky is falling but he was the type of prospect KU typically gets. He wasn't a can't miss day-1 type guy either. If Silvio/Dave return next season we may not have a grave need for a quality big. I do prefer we get at least 1 though. The Todd sweepstakes could be interesting?
Good thing we don't need a starting center out of this class.
@BShark I'm a little confused. I can see why some wings might shy away with all the uncertainty and a lot of guys already on the team. But, the big guys.....Doke gone for sure. Silvio, probably. But even if Silvio stays....Mac, Silvio, Mitch....Wouldn't guys think there is room?
Caleb Love is now down to Mizzou, Louisville, UNC, and KU.
Sounds like Mizzou is a lot bigger player than most thought.
The Love visit as scheduled isn't happening due to Team USA stuff. Will be rescheduled.
Coach saw Gethro Muscaden - - from Aspin Academy in Louisville yesterday - -# 128 - - 4 * - - 6'10 -- 215 Center - lots of focus on the 70-150 type players this year - -
jayballer73 said:
Coach saw Gethro Muscaden - - from Aspin Academy in Louisville yesterday - -# 128 - - 4 * - - 6'10 -- 215 Center - lots of focus on the 70-150 type players this year - -
Kstate likes their chances with him.
BShark said:
jayballer73 said:
Coach saw Gethro Muscaden - - from Aspin Academy in Louisville yesterday - -# 128 - - 4 * - - 6'10 -- 215 Center - lots of focus on the 70-150 type players this year - -
Kstate likes their chances with him.
Really?
I put on his tape. Has some bounce to him, good athletic ability it appears. Can protect the rim. Functional form on his jumper with range so he's a stretch type guy candidate at that height. Will need weight room. Lobs, Pick and Roll upside & stretching the defense seem like things that could translate to KU.
In all, begs the question if we are looking into a player K-St thinks they can land then what does that say about KU's recruiting right now. Has Weber found a good one? There's upside there and some translatable skills.
@BeddieKU23 yeah they seem to think he is theirs to lose. I do not know where he ranks among KU targets.
@BeddieKU23 I think it's weird that we haven't heard that KU leads for anyone. We also don't really have good official recruiting coverage now. Matt Scott is pretty much the best we have regardless of what people think about him, but he works for kusports now and isn't putting as much out there.
I am not sure who I like better between Muscadin and Bradford. I'd take the Kalkbrenner kid over either though. Wondering how much of Bradford visiting is KU has three MOKAN kids on the roster now.
BeddieKU23 said:
I'm assuming since we went in-home that KU is interested in him.
This is a strange cycle already. Do you get that vibe?
Super bizarre cycle. There's some rumors flying around that Cade Cunningham isn't done to Okie Lite and that UNC is actually his preferred destination. Only his brother is keeping them in contention. If that's true, could set off a domino effect of Love and/or Thompson getting pushed to KU.
What do you like about Kalkbrenner? I was really underwhelmed with his tape and thought he was a real project. He just really underwhelmed me as an athlete besides his shot blocking ability. Maybe he's a system guy that gets in some where and really develops. I'll check around to see what else is out there on him.
Bradford is a big dude. Seemed like someone you could mold in this system. His 43% FT shooting though was a turn off.
Muscadin seems like he could be more a 4 then a 5 unless he puts on good weight.
FarmerJayhawk said:
BeddieKU23 said:
I'm assuming since we went in-home that KU is interested in him.
This is a strange cycle already. Do you get that vibe?
Super bizarre cycle. There's some rumors flying around that Cade Cunningham isn't done to Okie Lite and that UNC is actually his preferred destination. Only his brother is keeping them in contention. If that's true, could set off a domino effect of Love and/or Thompson getting pushed to KU.
Wow I would not be upset at that scenario playing out.
I don't think we can land both Love/Thompson but if Self did that would be some home run recruiting there. I'm holding onto the belief we need 1 of Love/Thompson/KK and losing on all 3 would be a bad look. We'll see how this plays out
I see where the K-State guy put in his CB pick for TY Berry to Oklahoma St. -- Doesn't seem like that would make a lot of sense to me if they landed either Thompson or Love would it? - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
FarmerJayhawk said:
BeddieKU23 said:
I'm assuming since we went in-home that KU is interested in him.
This is a strange cycle already. Do you get that vibe?
Super bizarre cycle. There's some rumors flying around that Cade Cunningham isn't done to Okie Lite and that UNC is actually his preferred destination. Only his brother is keeping them in contention. If that's true, could set off a domino effect of Love and/or Thompson getting pushed to KU.
BeddieKU23 said:
What do you like about Kalkbrenner? I was really underwhelmed with his tape and thought he was a real project. He just really underwhelmed me as an athlete besides his shot blocking ability. Maybe he's a system guy that gets in some where and really develops. I'll check around to see what else is out there on him.
Bradford is a big dude. Seemed like someone you could mold in this system. His 43% FT shooting though was a turn off.
Muscadin seems like he could be more a 4 then a 5 unless he puts on good weight.
Great shot blocker, has potential offensively to develop a mid-range game at the very least. Looks like he needs to bulk up a bit though. Overall I trust the KU program to turn him into an effective cog by year 2 with the potential to start down the line.
None of them are an elite option, I just think he offers more than the other two. Looking into it more I would definitely take Muscadin over Bradford and I do feel like Bradford's visit to KU is because of the newfound Mokan ties. You want to keep that pipeline open. We will see how it shakes out.
BeddieKU23 said:
I don't think we can land both Love/Thompson but if Self did that would be some home run recruiting there. I'm holding onto the belief we need 1 of Love/Thompson/KK and losing on all 3 would be a bad look. We'll see how this plays out
I'd agree with this. Just really need one. Anything beyond that is gravy.
Any concern with Love canceling the visit. We see this too much where they never reschedule?? Hopefully they lock in a new date soon. Wouldn't hurt if he came in after his others
Love is going to MU. My prediction is in.
@HighEliteMajor I heard from reliable sources that Mizzou is Loves top choice followed by NC
Not a fan.
Apparently he is visiting for late night as well. Really tough to get a read on this class.
BShark said:
Not a fan.
Apparently he is visiting for late night as well. Really tough to get a read on this class.
You know, when you shoot low ...
Gross. Offering JC kids already... WTF is going on
Dam - - Dam - - Dam. - -I was afraid of this - - the kid I REALLY wanted ALOT - -is now Yes he very easily is going to end up playing College Basketball.
Kyree - - is talking that he will enter College this Semester , he has been taking on-line classes - -- -and has talked I guess with Western Kentucky Coach.
All I know is we sure the hell could of used his 30.2 scoring or - - his 11 plus rebounding - -or his 6 assists a game - -averages. - -Kid has no position , pretty much plays the 1-4 - - and absolute animal and seemed like he really had an interest in KU - - dammit -- kid is a beast - - - Welp - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Good for him if he can find a team. Too bad he didn't have his academics in order for KU to grab him at the time.
Kyree's only intentions are to get to the draft. KU is ok without that
BeddieKU23 said:
Good for him if he can find a team. Too bad he didn't have his academics in order for KU to grab him at the time.
Kyree's only intentions are to get to the draft. KU is ok without that
Wait , is what your saying is that isn't the dream of any kid? - to live his dream of being able to someday play in the NBA? - -I hope that's not what your saying. - I bet you ask any young boy growing up and then and kid as they grow older when playing what their ultimate dream would be when playing Basketball is -It would be to be able to make the NBA dream come true - -not just Kyree - -if that is your line of thinking then KU would be ok without every player that stepped on the floor - -
Or maybe I should re-word this a little - let me say any kid that has the talent such as Kyree - what is their # 1 goal? - -it is to be able to fulfill their life long dream of being able to play in the NBA , can't really look bad at a kid for that - -it's a job just like for any other person - - making a living - -only he is getting to do what he loves for his job and be paid for it - Hell If I could of or would of had that type talent that would of been my only intentions too - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I’d be surprised if Walker goes to college. Reclassifying is just to get 2020 draft eligible.
No not at all. I'm aware that many (maybe even a majority) dream of making the NBA.
@BeddieKU23 Heck, I still dream of making it to the NBA. But the Devil didn't want what I was selling.
From a KC star article
KU coaches meet with Thor
KU coach Self and assistant Kurtis Townsend on Thursday made a recruiting visit to the Atlanta area to see J.T. Thor, a 6-9 senior forward from Norcross (Georgia) High School. Thor, who visited Oklahoma State last weekend, will attend the Oct. 4 Late Night in the Phog as part of an official visit to KU. Georgia, UCLA and Kentucky are are also on his list of schools. He’s the No. 52-rated player in the recruiting Class of 2020 according to Rivals.com.
“At this point right now it is definitely Kansas. They’ve probably made him No. 1 priority the most,” Thor’s brother, Jal Thor, told Cats Illustrated. “Georgia has been on him very hard too. They’ve been calling every day. They’ve pretty much said, ‘You’re our No. 1 guy. We have Anthony Edwards, We need somebody to come in and do what he does just like you, and be on your way out.’ They’re kind of pitching that.’’
Jal Thor added: “Right now we’re kind of still up in the air. We’re listening to what everybody has to say. We want to see kind of what everybody else is doing because he wants to play with a really good guard. That’s why Oklahoma State is in there because they’re close with Cade Cunningham. UCLA has Daishen Nix. So he wants to play with good guards so he is watching that closely. Right now we’re just taking it slowly. He’s probably going to pick somewhere by November, but he probably won’t sign until late.”
BeddieKU23 said:
No not at all. I'm aware that many (maybe even a majority) dream of making the NBA.
Sorry just sounded like you were holding it against Kyree for wanting to go to the NBA - - and with his skills he would be a fool not to want to -- kid can do it all - -AN get paid for it
Let me ask you - -if you were a Basketball talent and was sure of being drafted wouldn't you want to go . - -Doesn't bother me in the least that he is wanting to do better - -falls right in line with many , many , many others - -be able to play the sport you love AND BE PAID while doing it - - - No Brainer
@jayballer73 I don’t know. Sounds like a no brainer but some of these guys and their handlers have no brains. They see only the here and now, they don’t think long term. For some, maturing in college is a better development plan and can help pave the way to more longevity. For others of course, college is a waste of time. The problem, I think, sometimes, is the concept that it is a no brainer as long as you know you can just earn money playing. Do you want to be playing in Turkey, or the NBA, in 10 years?
HighEliteMajor said:
@jayballer73 I don’t know. Sounds like a no brainer but some of these guys and their handlers have no brains. They see only the here and now, they don’t think long term. For some, maturing in college is a better development plan and can help pave the way to more longevity. For others of course, college is a waste of time. The problem, I think, sometimes, is the concept that it is a no brainer as long as you know you can just earn money playing. Do you want to be playing in Turkey, or the NBA, in 10 years?
good points
BShark said:
From a KC star article
KU coaches meet with Thor
KU coach Self and assistant Kurtis Townsend on Thursday made a recruiting visit to the Atlanta area to see J.T. Thor, a 6-9 senior forward from Norcross (Georgia) High School. Thor, who visited Oklahoma State last weekend, will attend the Oct. 4 Late Night in the Phog as part of an official visit to KU. Georgia, UCLA and Kentucky are are also on his list of schools. He’s the No. 52-rated player in the recruiting Class of 2020 according to Rivals.com.
“At this point right now it is definitely Kansas. They’ve probably made him No. 1 priority the most,” Thor’s brother, Jal Thor, told Cats Illustrated. “Georgia has been on him very hard too. They’ve been calling every day. They’ve pretty much said, ‘You’re our No. 1 guy. We have Anthony Edwards, We need somebody to come in and do what he does just like you, and be on your way out.’ They’re kind of pitching that.’’
Jal Thor added: “Right now we’re kind of still up in the air. We’re listening to what everybody has to say. We want to see kind of what everybody else is doing because he wants to play with a really good guard. That’s why Oklahoma State is in there because they’re close with Cade Cunningham. UCLA has Daishen Nix. So he wants to play with good guards so he is watching that closely. Right now we’re just taking it slowly. He’s probably going to pick somewhere by November, but he probably won’t sign until late.”
Promising. Thor is the kind of piece would should be adding since the starting frontcourt is set for the next 3 years.
HighEliteMajor said:
@BeddieKU23 Heck, I still dream of making it to the NBA. But the Devil didn't want what I was selling.
"Snakeroot potion! Come and get it! Get your snakeroot potion!"
"Why would I need snakeroot potion down here?"
"So that you can maybe worm your way back up, kind fellow!"
KK Robinson is down to a final 7. Arkansas, Illinois, Iowa St, Texas A&M, TCU, Vanderbilt, and KU.
Self and Townsend are going to be at Oak Hill today to check in on him as well.
Woodrow said:
KK Robinson is down to a final 7. Arkansas, Illinois, Iowa St, Texas A&M, TCU, Vanderbilt, and KU.
Self and Townsend are going to be at Oak Hill today to check in on him as well.
Definitely keeping after him.
His final 7 would make it seem like KU has a great chance if they really prioritized him but I can't say there's any confidence that would actually play out that way given how this cycle is trending. I do think KK would be a good fit at KU. Still trying to figure out why he's a bit underrated to date. The Oak Hill change will probably give a good gauge on whether he's better then his ranking suggest
Not KU but Kentucky Cleaning up in 2020.
Just got Lance Ware (PF) & Terrance Clarke- 2021 5 star stud to reclassify to 2020. This in addition to Top 10 Boston Jr & Top 50 SF Fletcher.
Kentucky will probably add 3-4 more as well looking at their likely roster full of guys going in next years draft.
KU needs to make some moves. Everyone else is
Self was in for Moses Moody today
Will KU sign another basketball recruit ever again? Stay tuned.
@BShark Great question. If you go by 247sports list of the top 100 in the 2020 class, it's not clear that the answer is yes. Out of the top 50, 25 have signed or at listed at 100% predicted to a school. Out of the 51-100 pool, 40 are signed or 100% predicted. For the dwindling number of unsigned, KU is listed as one of the top two predictions just once - and that's second to OSU for Bryce Thompson.
I assume that HCBS and staff will pull some rabbit out of the hat once some of the unsigned players miss out on their first choices, but is there anyone out there that wants to play for KU???
Here’s how it appears to me. I always thought Roy put too much emphasis on one player hinging his whole class on him. As soon as he went to UNC where a system to buy players was in place his recruiting drastically improved. I sigh think Roy has any direct involvement in paying players. As soon as Bill showed up in Lawrence recruiting became amazing, some of that was a void at Kentucky, some was players getting paid. Now recruiting looks a lot more like it did under Roy when players weren’t getting paid.
Hopefully I’m wrong and there’s just a black cloud (fbi) hanging over the program for a brief moment.
I'm hearing rumblings that Bryce Thompson has Oklahoma as his first choice and is probably headed that way.
alwaysajayhawk said:
I'm hearing rumblings that Bryce Thompson has Oklahoma as his first choice and is probably headed that way.
Maybe Young 2.0
@alwaysajayhawk bummer!
Was fun to D him up!
Yeah, Bryce and Tre are really good friends, that's another thing in Oklahoma favor
Didn't they play in the NIT last year?
BShark said:
Will KU sign another basketball recruit ever again? Stay tuned.
Not going to hold my breath lol. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Duke picks up its 3rd 5* of the class in D.J. Steward.
So I see that Kyree Walkers 247 CB has been updated. - - Jerry Meyer is now predicting that Kyree is headed to Arkansas.
Dammit - -people saying he was headed over sea's - -ummm NOPE - -the old CB used to have us at 50 % & Arizona 25 % - - Now Meyer prediction he will land at Arkansas - -huge pick up for them , glad he won't come back and bite us in the Ass. - -Arkansas now at 50 % - - then KU & Arizona at 25 % - - - Strrrrrrrrrrrrrike - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DDAY LONG BABY
A KU assistant will be in today to see Dawson Garcia who announced his top 7 a couple days ago.
KU will also be in to talk to Kerwin Walton.
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/kerwin-walton-232884 ↗
This class / cycle is just bizarre. I haven't heard KU associated with a lot of these kids that they are checking in on. Usually we have a idea of who they are targeting, but it seems right now we have no clue. ( besides the complete obvious)
Walton is a big time shooter
Woodrow said:
A KU assistant will be in today to see Dawson Garcia who announced his top 7 a couple days ago.
Would like to pull Dawson - - pretty nice Lefty - -looks like might need to put on a little weight but would be a good get. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Damm saw where Cassius broke Zion's Vertical leap for Duke
This might already have been posted guys but - - -KK Robinson has 2 visits planned/official - - - KK will be at KU on October 4-6th. - - Isn't our late night on the 4th? - -Will visit Arkansas the 18th-20th of October
His Coach says KK is the pass 1st PG - - excellent Passer , Can score when called on , - - -Great Court Vision , - - And gets in the lane well off the bounce
Decision going to be made BEFORE Christmas he says. - - Arkansas - - KU - - TCU - -Texas A & M - -- Iowa State - - -Illinois - - & Vandy - - where we sitting with him? - -I think we gotta pretty decent shot myself - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I like how this one is trending. I personally would like to see him end up a Hawk.
Staff has been into see him a few times, the move to Oak Hill & having Dave on the team as an alum can help.
I know KK is ranked lower then some other targets but the film I've seen looks solid, personally think he's a bit underrated and the move to Oak Hill will give him plenty of visibility to possibly rise in the ranks by the end of his Sr year. He could end up a high to middle 4 star player when its all said and done.
He is a solid 2 way player with a rep for being a quality defender already. Would be interesting having a southpaw PG on the team.
KU is his first official for late night. It's not going to get any better then that wherever else he goes. Hopefully he loves the visit
FarmerJayhawk said:
Self was in for Moses Moody today
Any chance here??
Possible reclass candidate https://247sports.com/Player/Frank-Anselem-46055566/ ↗
@BeddieKU23 I think so, but it’s so early with him it’s hard to say for sure.
I kind of feel comfortable. Self always pulls stuff out in the spring. We have a roster that has good depth going forward. All is good.
-------------uh, if there wasn't this unknown dark cloud looming.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Possible reclass candidate https://247sports.com/Player/Frank-Anselem-46055566/ ↗
@BeddieKU23 I think so, but it’s so early with him it’s hard to say for sure.
Thanks. Will be interesting to see if that one goes anywhere.
Anselem is a big kid that on tape looks like he's just starting to scratch the surface.
Have we visited him?
BeddieKU23 said:
I like how this one is trending. I personally would like to see him end up a Hawk.
Staff has been into see him a few times, the move to Oak Hill & having Dave on the team as an alum can help.
I know KK is ranked lower then some other targets but the film I've seen looks solid, personally think he's a bit underrated and the move to Oak Hill will give him plenty of visibility to possibly rise in the ranks by the end of his Sr year. He could end up a high to middle 4 star player when its all said and done.
He is a solid 2 way player with a rep for being a quality defender already. Would be interesting having a southpaw PG on the team.
KU is his first official for late night. It's not going to get any better then that wherever else he goes. Hopefully he loves the visit
Late Night is always a good thing , Big Seller for us , the only down side I've heard from some is with the late night - -the Coaching Staff can't really give him as much of that one on one attention with so many other recruits being here also.
Might be making something out of nothing - -but Glad at this point anyways he only has the 2 visits scheduled - -he comes in , we make a good enough sales pitch - - maybe he won't even make any other visits. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BeddieKU23 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Possible reclass candidate https://247sports.com/Player/Frank-Anselem-46055566/ ↗
@BeddieKU23 I think so, but it’s so early with him it’s hard to say for sure.
Thanks. Will be interesting to see if that one goes anywhere.
Anselem is a big kid that on tape looks like he's just starting to scratch the surface.
Have we visited him?
Self was in this week for him. It escapes me which day.
I guess now we no why recruiting is suffering
Woodrow said:
I guess now we no why recruiting is suffering
If the rumors are true it will be everything going forward
@BeddieKU23 You don't think every coach has told recruits why would you go play for a team that is not going to be able to play in the tournament. I 100% believe it affected the 2019 class and there is no doubt it has affected 2020.
Woodrow said:
@BeddieKU23 You don't think every coach has told recruits why would you go play for a team that is not going to be able to play in the tournament. I 100% believe it affected the 2019 class and there is no doubt it has affected 2020.
Absolutely its impacted both cycles. I just think the headlines will really scare off any recruits for the fall at minimum now. Could be overreacting here a bit but I'm sure the national chains will pick the story up and everyone will know
BeddieKU23 said:
Woodrow said:
@BeddieKU23 You don't think every coach has told recruits why would you go play for a team that is not going to be able to play in the tournament. I 100% believe it affected the 2019 class and there is no doubt it has affected 2020.
Absolutely its impacted both cycles. I just think the headlines will really scare off any recruits for the fall at minimum now. Could be overreacting here a bit but I'm sure the national chains will pick the story up and everyone will know
Watch the Spiral begin - - and we have seen it Already - -Mc Bride jumpin ship. - -he can use any other excuse - -this NCAA bull shit is exactly why he is out
@BeddieKU23 yeah. It’s happening. ESPN is reporting the KCStar is reporting Kansas has allegations to come. About what you may ask? 😂 aargh
Wichita tv station, Kc 🌟 blah blah
@Crimsonorblue22 they should really change their name to be more truthful. KC Missouri Star. - they really enjoy delivering bad news to us!
dylans said:
@BeddieKU23 Know what?
Edit. Never mind.
Let’s get this 💩 over with. !
OK , so let me ask people this - - -stay with me here , let's say IF - - - again - -IF it did happen to turn out that the NCAA Charged Coach Self with Coach Control - - -where he could be suspended for a year - - IF that turned out - - Do you guys think Self would say Screw it - -and walk away from it? - Resign from KU move on - -Or What? - - -just askin guys that's all -- don't think it's that bizarre of a possibility. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer73 big if but he’ll stick it out and come back strong and pissed.
Hmm a year off to recruit behind the scenes? (Cough cough Huggins) Lol surely nothing but good could come from that.
Heard from a very solid source tonight that until the NCAA issue is resolved, expect recruiting to be “brutal.” Name if the game is develop, develop, develop. I get the feeling they’re more concerned about that than any sanctions.
Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if we lose Bryce Thompson and Caleb love now,
I suspect the 2020 recruiting thread ... might ... slow ... down. And we mocked the offer to the JUCO kid. I feel bad now.
Going to be really interesting to see just how many of these recruits that were coming for late night -NOW actually show up. - - -I have a feeling like has ben said , it's not gonna be pretty.
There is one thing that stumps me though , I mean dam - - take a look at Arizona AND Louisville these two programs are both smack dab in this mess and really hasn't effected their recruiting that much at all. - - Hell Ol Stump Sean was/is real close to losing his job - -that program when this is all said and done could STILL be in a pile of warm dog doo and yet , you look at his recruiting and doesn't seem like he has taken hardly any kind of hit - - not like it's effecting ours , every time you turn around another recruit is committing there or they are in the conversation for
Look at Louisville - - they have been in Big time trouble - - - has it really effected their recruiting like it seems to ours ? - - -don't think so - - I think there are some schools really just bashing the hell out of us about all this - -still makes me think also that it might be time to do some house cleaning , bring in new blood on the recruiting staff, possibly some of these guys have become stale.
Something BESIDES this crap just isn't adding up. With the success this program has had in recent past , there is just no way our recruiting should be this sucky bad - even with this NCAA BS - -I smell something and it's not good. - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer73 It's definitely going to get rough but then it will get better. Louisville is the perfect example. They got hammered and recovered.
This current class is not going to have any star appeal.
Edit: Louisville didn't even have a recruiting class in 2018? Is that correct? Showing as no signees that year for them.
BShark said:
@jayballer73 It's definitely going to get rough but then it will get better. Louisville is the perfect example. They got hammered and recovered.
This current class is not going to have any star appeal.
This is going to be a year of loyalty for the program - - - well I'm saying from a fans perspective in a way anyways.
You know - - I know these other programs fan base everywhere you go - -they see your team, wearing gear an such - -get ready for all the BS remarks , talking about how the program is scum - - dirty always has been always will be they will say , Can't win without cheating and all kinds of cheap shots - -- just sayin - - be ready.
Now I know , and it's ok if people don't agree but all I'm saying is - -that IF it turns out and to me it's looking more and more that whether we want to accept it or not - - at least from the so called wire taps - - info that couldn't be introduced to the case or whatever , but if that took place if money WAS exchanged for a players service to get them to come here - - - -if they played or not - - bottom line is - - money was given , there was supposed where Coach asking if we were good - -again is being said Coach offered to resign - -IF your not guilty of something , then WHY would you do that?
If I'm innocent of these allegations there is no way in Hell I would be doing something such as that -to me him making a statement IF he did just solidifies his guilt in this - -again I can understand why people might disagree with what I'm saying here - it's ok if you do I understand. I'm just trying to look from all sides.
Again IF and it's looking like as much as we don't want to admit it from phone conversations and yes again I get it - it wasn't permitted to be used BUT whether it was permitted or not sure sounds like from the phone tap -- money WAS exchanged -- Bottom Line - -that is a violation period - - plain and simple - -try coloring it any way you want - - by NCAA guidelines a player can't receive money well a player/parents who the hell ever - -So IF we did - - the YES we ARE guilty - - the old saying goes - - you do the crime - - -then do the time.
I hate this crap - -getting to old for this , I would give my left Nad if for once - - just ONCE in an upcoming season that we could go through a season with eligibility issues with players such as Cliff - - -the other kid that we had to fight for eligibility - - -or Billy or whoever - - just ONCE not have to worry about some NCAA bullshit - just give me one more regular season without this crap before I kick the bucket - -I'm so dam loyal to these guys - -I take it sometimes to fa - - it really chaps my ass when people start talking crap on the program -- so this year is going to be a challenge for me to keep myself in check - -seriously I take this TO SERIOUS I think - -it's a sport , but I can't help it I love my Jayhawks even though I didn't attend KU been this way since as long as I can remember . -- Bottom line is guys - - BUCKLE UP BOYS - -it's gonna get worse before it get's better - - time to circle the wagons and unite - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Rumblings??? Caleb Love to North Carolina.....???
alwaysajayhawk said:
Rumblings??? Caleb Love to North Carolina.....???
Well that's no surprise, we sure know or should know , that no way he coming here with this NCAA BS coming at us.
It's gonna be interesting to see exactly what we do end up with now this year, May even be a Juco - -Bill really gonna have to deep WAY DEEP look for those very obscure places for a recruit. - -May have to be a middle 100's guy ranking - - I just don't think we have a snow ball's chance in hell of landing any kind of top 50 player with everything that's going on right now. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
alwaysajayhawk said:
Rumblings??? Caleb Love to North Carolina.....???
I believe this was likely and the KU crapstorm being churned back up sealed it.
We need to start looking at our local kids now, there is still a lot of good local talent around
alwaysajayhawk said:
We need to start looking at our local kids now, there is still a lot of good local talent around
Not a bad idea. Get who you can and hope to develop them.
I hope that we can offer Ty Berry soon before he commits to Northwestern, Minnesota, or Okie St
5* big man Walker Kessler committed to UNC tonight
Oh wow. That’s a stunner.
He almost certainly wasn’t going there, but that 100% eliminates UNC for Todd
This thread is starting to feel like free advertisements for other teams signees. Tough times never last, we hope
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Couple tweets from Evan Daniels this morning that I found interesting. Sure KU is still considered a blue blood, but they are not acquiring talent any longer like one. Also, it looks like there might be a handful of top 25 kids taking the pro route this year...
Hearing when, not if, for Caleb Love and UNC
Didn’t make Andre Curbelo’s final 5. Not sure how much of a target he was.
Hopefully the staff doesn't slow play KK Robinson for Thompson. They need a PG in this class for sure.
Woodrow said:
Hopefully the staff doesn't slow play KK Robinson for Thompson. They need a PG in this class for sure.
They'd take both in a heartbeat. Thompson could easily play off the ball.
Woodrow said:
Hopefully the staff doesn't slow play KK Robinson for Thompson. They need a PG in this class for sure.
And unless Thompson is coming with whatever is looming for certainty Robinson is surely a prospect you won't get away stringing along
FarmerJayhawk said:
He almost certainly wasn’t going there, but that 100% eliminates UNC for Todd
watch watch - -shouldn't come as a big surprise now - - Todd/Kentucky
FarmerJayhawk said:
Hearing when, not if, for Caleb Love and UNC
Yeah it's done. Not sure who the hell KU is getting for this class given the circumstances.
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
He almost certainly wasn’t going there, but that 100% eliminates UNC for Todd
watch watch - -shouldn't come as a big surprise now - - Todd/Kentucky
Overseas feels like the play here, though I could be wrong.
Sounds like a few top players in this class will go overseas.
@FarmerJayhawk Yeah it's only a matter of time before he makes it official
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Hearing when, not if, for Caleb Love and UNC
Yeah it's done. Not sure who the hell KU is getting for this class given the circumstances.
Bag of peanuts
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Hearing when, not if, for Caleb Love and UNC
Yeah it's done. Not sure who the hell KU is getting for this class given the circumstances.
Bag of peanuts
Well, now we know why in full.
I mentioned this is the other thread, but I am intrigued to see Bill with a full blown bag of rocks.
I expect Mitch, Harris and Braun on the roster next year. After that I don't even know. Garrett, Dave and Enaruna if we are lucky.
BShark said:
I mentioned this is the other thread, but I am intrigued to see Bill with a full blown bag of rocks.
Hmmm. Bill has to be here to do that.
HighEliteMajor said:
BShark said:
I mentioned this is the other thread, but I am intrigued to see Bill with a full blown bag of rocks.
Hmmm. Bill has to be here to do that.
Odds are high, since he is still currently here after the last offseason. Unless the NCAA literally bans him which would be fought.
BShark said:
HighEliteMajor said:
BShark said:
I mentioned this is the other thread, but I am intrigued to see Bill with a full blown bag of rocks.
Hmmm. Bill has to be here to do that.
Odds are high, since he is still currently here after the last offseason. Unless the NCAA literally bans him which would be fought.
i'll ask this again now the Lack of coaching Control or what ever the F it is - - this CAN lead to a year suspension - - if that indeed happens - - - Does Bill walk Away?
A couple good links to read -
http://www.ncaa.org/enforcement/enforcement-process-charging ↗
Second link is one from a while back that referenced KU's odd approach when a lot of this surfaced, again could play into why we're getting hammered.
Caleb Love got 6 CB picks to UNC today. No surprise
Love cancelled his trip to KU and has cut his list to Mizzou and UNC . No surprise here.
Despite everything going on Gethro Muscadin took his visit to KU over the weekend.
BeddieKU23 said:
Despite everything going on Gethro Muscadin took his visit to KU over the weekend.
Probably a player we can still get.
Woodrow said:
Love cancelled his trip to KU and has cut his list to Mizzou and UNC . No surprise here.
one of many cancellations to come
BeddieKU23 said:
Despite everything going on Gethro Muscadin took his visit to KU over the weekend.
don't get the VIP but hope he had some positive things to say - - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
He did. Here a few snips. Despite the positive things I do not expect he signs here
He met the players and learned about their personalities, and he even got a little starstruck when hanging around KU basketball's coach.
“I was sitting with him and I was like, ‘Man, I’m really sitting with Bill Self, a Hall of Fame coach,’” “That’s something huge for me.”
They really know my game. They really know my strengths. That’s something that means a lot to me that they’ve been watching me.”
Is that all?
“They have pretty much everything that I’ve been looking for in a college,” Muscadin said of KU. “That’s pretty incredible. That’s something that means a lot for me
@BeddieKU23 understandable. At the end of the day Bill will get some guys.
Memphis is the school to watch with Gethro. In other news, UK is out for Isaiah Todd. No spots left there. I think he ends up overseas since his options here are pretty dry for what he's... ummm... looking for in a school.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Memphis is the school to watch with Gethro. In other news, UK is out for Isaiah Todd. No spots left there. I think he ends up overseas since his options here are pretty dry for what he's... ummm... looking for in a school.
My hope would be that Memphis has better options.
Helluva place to be in recruiting right now but that's how it is.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Memphis is the school to watch with Gethro. In other news, UK is out for Isaiah Todd. No spots left there. I think he ends up overseas since his options here are pretty dry for what he's... ummm... looking for in a school.
Dam , Dam , Dam - - man I hate to see a kid that has talent like that go over sea's - - you would think he surely could find a spot - -once apon a time we were right there with him - -Screw the NCAA - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Riley Gates, a KSU insider, put his CB for Gethro to KU today.
Edit: What about Karim Mane?
rockchalkwyo said:
Riley Gates, a KSU insider, put his CB for Gethro to KU today.
Looks like KU has a great shot here.
Edit: What about Karim Mane?
Not much out there about him right now. Might be a straight to pro candidate.
Sounds like Javonte Brown will be a Texas A&M aggie eventually.
rockchalkwyo said:
Riley Gates, a KSU insider, put his CB for Gethro to KU today.
Edit: What about Karim Mane?
Mane is not expected to go to College
BShark said:
rockchalkwyo said:
Riley Gates, a KSU insider, put his CB for Gethro to KU today.
Looks like KU has a great shot here.
Edit: What about Karim Mane?
Not much out there about him right now. Might be a straight to pro candidate.
Gethro at this point would be a very nice addition - - I mean right now that's probably about as good as it get's - -he a pretty decent player - -a developmental player- - 3-4 year player right? I'm sure Coach would love to have him
Here is a question - -IF - - and again I'm saying IF - - IF /Coach /Self does get suspended next year and feeling pretty sure that Coach Townsend ends up getting axed - - -then who Coach's the team next year?
jayballer73 said:
BShark said:
rockchalkwyo said:
Riley Gates, a KSU insider, put his CB for Gethro to KU today.
Looks like KU has a great shot here.
Edit: What about Karim Mane?
Not much out there about him right now. Might be a straight to pro candidate.
Gethro at this point would be a very nice addition - - I mean right now that's probably about as good as it get's - -he a pretty decent player - -a developmental player- - 3-4 year player right? I'm sure Coach would love to have him
Here is a question - -IF - - and again I'm saying IF - - IF /Coach /Self does get suspended next year and feeling pretty sure that Coach Townsend ends up getting axed - - -then who Coach's the team next year?
Hear me out on this: Larry Brown. Tanned, rested, ready. Can obviously coach, knows the league, loves Kansas. Boom.
That would be a thumb to the nose at the NCAA.
bskeet said:
That would be a thumb to the nose at the NCAA.
All the better!
FarmerJayhawk said:
jayballer73 said:
BShark said:
rockchalkwyo said:
Riley Gates, a KSU insider, put his CB for Gethro to KU today.
Looks like KU has a great shot here.
Edit: What about Karim Mane?
Not much out there about him right now. Might be a straight to pro candidate.
Gethro at this point would be a very nice addition - - I mean right now that's probably about as good as it get's - -he a pretty decent player - -a developmental player- - 3-4 year player right? I'm sure Coach would love to have him
Here is a question - -IF - - and again I'm saying IF - - IF /Coach /Self does get suspended next year and feeling pretty sure that Coach Townsend ends up getting axed - - -then who Coach's the team next year?
Hear me out on this: Larry Brown. Tanned, rested, ready. Can obviously coach, knows the league, loves Kansas. Boom.
lol- - oh ya that would look - sweet - - nice kick to the nads to the NCAA - see -what got another squeaky clean Coach for a year - - take that lmao
I said it before and I will say it again. We need to start recruiting local talent now! There are enough high caliber in state and local kids that are damn good and that are 3 and 4 year players that Bill can work with and develop, because we are not going to get the 5 star or even the 4 star players now
alwaysajayhawk said:
I said it before and I will say it again. We need to start recruiting local talent now! There are enough high caliber in state and local kids that are damn good and that are 3 and 4 year players that Bill can work with and develop, because we are not going to get the 5 star or even the 4 star players now
Honestly, anyone that wants to come at this point as long as they have some ability.
In state talent that KU should go hard after now...
Ty Berry.. 2020.. Sunrise Christian
Tamar Bates..2021.. Piper high school
Grady Dick..2022... Wichita Collegiate
Mark Williams..2022.. Bishop Miege
All of these kids are high major D1 ballplayers, that are getting highly recruited, I will hate to see them get out of the state.
alwaysajayhawk said:
In state talent that KU should go hard after now...
Ty Berry.. 2020.. Sunrise Christian
Tamar Bates..2021.. Piper high school
Grady Dick..2022... Wichita Collegiate
Mark Williams..2022.. Bishop Miege
All of these kids are high major D1 ballplayers, that are getting highly recruited, I will hate to see them get out of the state.
I think we can and should get Grady Dick unless it all goes FUBAR.
This year feels like a lost cause, I don't think we could get Ty Berry now.
Assuming you meant Mark Mitchell I don't think we can get him. Kentucky, UNC or straight to the pros IMO.
Name to keep an eye on: https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/latrell-jossell-213166 ↗
Yeah Mark Mitchell... Sorry
Yeah it's a shame that we might lose Ty Berry to the Big 10 ( Northwestern, Minnesota, Michigan ) this kid can really play , he will be playing in the league someday, mark my words..
alwaysajayhawk said:
Yeah Mark Mitchell... Sorry
No big deal, I figured it out.
If KU does miss on him it won't be due to a lack of trying. He is a stud and the staff knows it.
alwaysajayhawk said:
Yeah it's a shame that we might lose Ty Berry to the Big 10 ( Northwestern, Minnesota, Michigan ) this kid can really play , he will be playing in the league someday, mark my words..
I don't feel as strongly as you but it wouldn't surprise me if he is better than whoever we end up with. Recruiting is about to enter the stone age.
We still have Tre White right 2022? We have a decent foundation to last a few years as long as there’s no transfers
rockchalkwyo said:
We still have Tre White right 2022? We have a decent foundation to last a few years as long as there’s no transfers
Correct. Howard checked in on him just recently. He is still committed and still visiting for late night.
For next year's team, player retention is key. We could be looking at a large exodus though.
If there is a postseason ban could KU redshirt it’s best players (non-early nba entrants) that year? Just call it a lost cause/development year like the Houston QB this year?
Howard into see this kid today (actually his mom) https://247sports.com/Player/Tyon-Grant-Foster-46093992/ ↗
FarmerJayhawk said:
Howard into see this kid today (actually his mom) https://247sports.com/Player/Tyon-Grant-Foster-46093992/ ↗
If you listen carefully you can hear the pick axes.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Howard into see this kid today (actually his mom) https://247sports.com/Player/Tyon-Grant-Foster-46093992/ ↗
And THIS is what we very well could see the likes of for this year AND next more likely then not
He looks better than I thought
Oh wow sign him up now. He is well worth a scholarship
I think if the pipeline dries up its going to hurt a lot more in terms of bigs than wings. This kid looks good.
Well from my expertise eyes lol, 1st impressions , could we possibly be able to bag a sleeper?
Watching looks like he is pretty complete player. Ya it's a high-lite reel but still can't hide the talent.
Ew - - he got range - -he does have range , pretty smooth - - - - good handles - - - - - Likes to go to the rim also - - - -finishes when it presents it'self - - -really nice size for the position - - - -and looks fairly quick , not exceptional but good enough.
Like has been said we could for sure offer don't think it would be a waste - and again the position that it looks like we are in now and for awhile - - ya we need to offer.
Even with this Juco though even kids like this want that opportunity to play in the National title game - -or at least the possibility So with him only having two years to do so - - would he come with the possibility of a ban next season? - - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Bill Self is a great evaluator of talent and is going back to WORK because he has to dig. Like I said before I'm oddly excited by this.
@rockchalkwyo looks like a young paul pierce to me.
http://njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2018-19/div1/players/tyongrantfosterlyx5 ↗
Here are his stats. Doesn’t look like his ppg is that high until you scroll down and see he averaged a little over 7 mpg with a points per 40 minutes is 43. As long as I’m reading that correctly
Self: “To be honest with you, I’ve been concerned about recruiting challenges happening for the last 27 years I’ve been a head coach. Every place has its own challenges. Now this gives us some unique challenges that also we can somehow look at them as opportunities, too. Sure, that’s always going to be an issue. But in the past, when you’ve gone against Kentucky and Carolina and Duke and Michigan State or UCLA or whoever to get the players you’re recruiting, they’re all challenges. Certainly we’ve got our hands full with this, but we’ll end up, I think, having a very good recruiting class.”
@rockchalkwyo I wonder if he was injured? 5 starts at the juco level and worth a scholarship offer? Yikes
BShark said:
@dylans ISU poking around too. From what I can tell he can hoop, but he can't shoot. Perfect for Bill.
lol, who can't shoot ? - -the video I was watching looked lie he was doing a pretty decent job to me - -and I'm referring to his J - -not layups or flushes = = =He by far is No Marcus G. - - this kid got some range , and at times looked like even deep range -and they were looking pretty smooth/pure - -not like a prayer where you fire up as missile and it clangs around off the rim 5-6 tomes bounces up 3 ft and falls back through - - I didn't see any prayers in his shot- I think he would be a nice addition if we could land him. - - ROCK CHALK ALLD AY LONG BABY
Slater and Meyer both picked gethro for KU today
rockchalkwyo said:
Slater and Meyer both picked gethro for KU today
Hmm sounds like the word is out
If we land a recruit in this crapola that's like winning the lottery
rockchalkwyo said:
Slater and Meyer both picked gethro for KU today
Oh Dam - - surely not -- could we POSSIBLY be in the hunt for a recruit anyways with all this? - - - -He would be a decent land considering everything going on - -good 3-4 year player - -hopefully we can work with develop - -he has some game - -but can for sure get better - -let's hope maybe he might land. - -ROCK CHALK ALLD AY LONG BABU
BeddieKU23 said:
If we land a recruit in this crapola that's like winning the lottery
that would be fun - - - -never have won any kind of lottery - -no seriously my friend, I hear you 100 % - -but at least might be some hope. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
With Gethro visiting here what? - - last weekend? - - -and now we getting CB picks from BOTH Slater & Meyer - -you might be right something might have leaked.
Has offers from Wichita St - - -TCU - - Tulsa - - Tex A & m - - -SMU - - - St Louis - - Rutgers - - -Texas Tech - - -Houston - - -Col St - - -VCU - - -UNLV - - -New Mexico - - -Memphis - - -Conn- - -& Louisiana Tech - - All Schools that offered - -we shall see
I'd take Muscadin in a second. Athletic.
BShark said:
I'd take Muscadin in a second. Athletic.
Definitely a project but some skills to work with. The new age big man that can stretch it.
@BeddieKU23 My people tell me he's going to Zona, sorry to say. But his mom doesn't work with me anymore so she's not the source.
For what it's worth, the Badgers have picked up 4 4 star players in the last two weeks. That's quite a haul for them. Two are 2020 recruits and two are 2o21 recruits.
Dylan Prezkop (no clue who he is) put his CB pick for Gethro to KU this morning. Thats 4 now. Is he coming for Late Night?
rockchalkwyo said:
Dylan Prezkop (no clue who he is) put his CB pick for Gethro to KU this morning. Thats 4 now. Is he coming for Late Night?
Unlikely. He already took an official visit to KU that went great. So if he comes to late night it would be unofficial, he'd have to pay.
@wissox Now we have to hope Kentucky doesn't want any of them.
wissox said:
@dylans I'm recruiting Bucketeers to attain to duel fanship!
I believe Stugotz said,”Wisconsin exists to be 4th in the poll and win nothing!”
I’ve got enough heartache. KU wins one every 20 years, the Royals every 40, the Chiefs every 50. That’s a lot of waiting already.
@BShark , @FarmerJayhawk , Scott Chasen wrote an article about Gethro on 247, but it's VIP. Can either of you tell us what it's about? Please and thank you
@rockchalkwyo Just a puff piece. He will decide soon though.
@dylans 4th in the poll and win nothing summarizes it well! Of course referees made sure there'd be no championship in 2015.
@Crimsonorblue22 I knew you'd decline the dual fanship thing!
I cant wait for the season to start. Anyone else excited??
BeddieKU23 said:
I cant wait for the season to start. Anyone else excited??
Definitely. Might have to mute some TV broadcasts but I'm ready to watch KU.
I actually already have ESPN+ due to college football season so I'm ready to go on that too.
ESPN must be paying a bunch to get 10 of the KU b-ball games as an exclusive broadcast on ESPN+. They really want ESPN+ to work so they can skip the big cable/satellite companies and just get straight into our wallets. I wish it was just another platform instead of the forced platform.
5* Isaiah Todd is visiting this weekend
Woodrow said:
5* Isaiah Todd is visiting this weekend
Alright alright alright! Even though I’m pretty sure we don’t have a shot and he’s going overseas, he’s so perfect for next year’s squad that I can’t quit it
FarmerJayhawk said:
Woodrow said:
5* Isaiah Todd is visiting this weekend
Alright alright alright! Even though I’m pretty sure we don’t have a shot and he’s going overseas, he’s so perfect for next year’s squad that I can’t quit it
I would be pretty amazing to drop the bag required to get him while under the scrutiny of the NCAA.
Read this morning that Fisher off 247 put in his pick ( CB ) - to KU for Gerthro Muscadin last Night - - still giving 100% of the predictions - I mean there have been only 5 CB'S but all have been for us - -so good thing I guess.
These for the most part I think are going to be the types we get for a bit - -not necessarily a bad thing , developmental player 4 yr player but with this dam NCAA thing going on -he just might develop into a solid 4 year kid that can help us in a couple of years - -think he needs to hit the weight room though pretty lean - -I think said 6'10 & 215 - - -sounds like an old Rick Suttle type of frame - - - you all remember him? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer73 I just read an article off of Rivals, and Cory Evans still thinks he will land at Texas Tech (which he'll visit this weekend). I remember last year though, Mr. Corey Evans was wrong on almost everything pertaining to KU (Hurt, Stanley, Precious, and I want to say one more).
rockchalkwyo said:
@jayballer73 I just read an article off of Rivals, and Cory Evans still thinks he will land at Texas Tech (which he'll visit this weekend). I remember last year though, Mr. Corey Evans was wrong on almost everything pertaining to KU (Hurt, Stanley, Precious, and I want to say one more).
Good Point. Corey swings and misses a ton in regards to KU recruiting
rockchalkwyo said:
@jayballer73 I just read an article off of Rivals, and Cory Evans still thinks he will land at Texas Tech (which he'll visit this weekend). I remember last year though, Mr. Corey Evans was wrong on almost everything pertaining to KU (Hurt, Stanley, Precious, and I want to say one more).
ya , I hear what your saying - -who knows for sure , it's one big crap shoot. -Thing is though seems like for the most part or so it seems - - just like with this kid - - - Jerry Meyer and Andrew Slater have both thrown CB"S for KU - -Meyer is usually pretty spot on - -then this Morning although not as much as Meyer and Slater - - Fisher threw in to KU also. - The real tale tale to me is what Evan Daniels says - -I like him a lot he usually pretty accurate - haven't seen him make any prediction
Like I said when your dealing with 17-18 yr olds - -who the hell knows lol. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Almost like Corey doesn't know anything. There is a reason Slater mocks him and zags. Slater is one of the ku oicks for Muscadin so I feel pretty good about it.
Bit from Bossi on Thompson, “ Thompson is planning to be at Kansas this weekend and the Jayhawks had looked to be emerging as a pretty clear leader. However, he'll have to ask some tough questions about the Jayhawks' status with the NCAA. If not Kansas, his in-state finalists could be in best position to capitalize.“
FarmerJayhawk said:
Bit from Bossi on Thompson, “ Thompson is planning to be at Kansas this weekend and the Jayhawks had looked to be emerging as a pretty clear leader. However, he'll have to ask some tough questions about the Jayhawks' status with the NCAA. If not Kansas, his in-state finalists could be in best position to capitalize.“
I'm pretty sure bill self will not lie to the kid and tell him like it is
FarmerJayhawk said:
Bit from Bossi on Thompson, “ Thompson is planning to be at Kansas this weekend and the Jayhawks had looked to be emerging as a pretty clear leader. However, he'll have to ask some tough questions about the Jayhawks' status with the NCAA. If not Kansas, his in-state finalists could be in best position to capitalize.“
Daddy liiiike.
BShark said:
Almost like Corey doesn't know anything. There is a reason Slater mocks him and zags. Slater is one of the ku oicks for Muscadin so I feel pretty good about it.
me too , that's what I was saying - -Slater and Meyer both picked KU - - I trust those two - -seems pretty solid most the time
FarmerJayhawk said:
Bit from Bossi on Thompson, “ Thompson is planning to be at Kansas this weekend and the Jayhawks had looked to be emerging as a pretty clear leader. However, he'll have to ask some tough questions about the Jayhawks' status with the NCAA. If not Kansas, his in-state finalists could be in best position to capitalize.“
Thanks for sharing. Self looks like he has a chance to hold the edge or lose it here. Probably the only recruit that matters this weekend in the big picture dont you think?
@jayballer73 Probably not many of us here are old enough to remember Rick Suttle. He was my favorite player on those teams.
Hawk8086 said:
@jayballer73 Probably not many of us here are old enough to remember Rick Suttle. He was my favorite player on those teams.
ya pretty good player -- -skinny s a rail but pretty decent player
BeddieKU23 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Bit from Bossi on Thompson, “ Thompson is planning to be at Kansas this weekend and the Jayhawks had looked to be emerging as a pretty clear leader. However, he'll have to ask some tough questions about the Jayhawks' status with the NCAA. If not Kansas, his in-state finalists could be in best position to capitalize.“
Thanks for sharing. Self looks like he has a chance to hold the edge or lose it here. Probably the only recruit that matters this weekend in the big picture dont you think?
I’d add KK Robinson to that list as far as 2020 guys. I’m still hanging onto some hope of Todd but probably just a vice at this point.
@FarmerJayhawk Do you think we can get the unranked 5'9'' 2 guard tho?
FarmerJayhawk said:
BeddieKU23 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Bit from Bossi on Thompson, “ Thompson is planning to be at Kansas this weekend and the Jayhawks had looked to be emerging as a pretty clear leader. However, he'll have to ask some tough questions about the Jayhawks' status with the NCAA. If not Kansas, his in-state finalists could be in best position to capitalize.“
Thanks for sharing. Self looks like he has a chance to hold the edge or lose it here. Probably the only recruit that matters this weekend in the big picture dont you think?
I’d add KK Robinson to that list as far as 2020 guys. I’m still hanging onto some hope of Todd but probably just a vice at this point.
Totally forgot about him. Guess I'm just low on hope in this class given what's happened. Either kid would be great to have. Some are concerned how Bryce will translate to College. KK seems like a really nice grab for running point and being a solid defender off the bat. Hopefully self can work some magic
Gethro got another CB pick for KU today. Hopefully Texas Tech bombs this weekend
Here's a quote from Corey Evans, yes I know he's not that reputable in regards to KU, but... He did ask Karim directly if he plans on skipping college and he said no. Posted 8 days ago on Rivals.
"There have been rumors that Karim Mane could potentially skip college and jump directly to the NBA next spring due to his age and year of graduation. I asked Mane that directly and he stated that his intentions are to enroll in college next fall.
Mane has spoken little on his recruitment, but has also not devoted much attention towards it. That is about to change. A final list of schools or visits of any type have not been scheduled, but Mane did tell Rivals.com that Alabama, Georgetown, Illinois, Kansas, Marquette, Maryland, Memphis, Seton Hall, and Wake Forest were among those most frequently in contact with him.
Expect for Mane to schedule his official visits and for a few others to jump into the mix, but a late signing in April is the likeliest conclusion to sorting out where he will end up next year."
jayballer73 said:
BShark said:
@dylans ISU poking around too. From what I can tell he can hoop, but he can't shoot. Perfect for Bill.
lol, who can't shoot ? - -the video I was watching looked lie he was doing a pretty decent job to me - -and I'm referring to his J - -not layups or flushes = = =He by far is No Marcus G. - - this kid got some range , and at times looked like even deep range -and they were looking pretty smooth/pure - -not like a prayer where you fire up as missile and it clangs around off the rim 5-6 tomes bounces up 3 ft and falls back through - - I didn't see any prayers in his shot- I think he would be a nice addition if we could land him. - - ROCK CHALK ALLD AY LONG BABY
I'm not adverse to jucos if they fill a role.
BeddieKU23 said:
I cant wait for the season to start. Anyone else excited??
Bigtime ready! Unfortunately, with the NCAA dragging its damn feet we're going to hear alot of "and ofcourse we've all heard about the program being investigated by the NCAA" and yada, yada, yada "but they certainly have a great team this year." I'll just press pause and fast-forward......
@FarmerJayhawk Is he going to leave us dazed and confused?
Jt thor will no longer visit. Writing on the wall there
@FarmerJayhawk :eyes:
BShark said:
@FarmerJayhawk :eyes:
Haven’t heard but my guess is Memphis and Michigan, but he goes overseas.
Corey put in a pick for KU so even if KU makes the list assume he’s going elsewhere 😂
Surprised Duke didnt buy him.
That let's you know how much they are looking for
Who are you guys talking about?
@rockchalkwyo Isaiah Todd.
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Visited this weekend
Woodrow said:
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Visited this weekend
I believe we’re taking Gethro instead but it’s not 100% locked down yet. Memphis is still trying to get him on campus and probably will.
Todd down to KU and Michigan. Announcing Oct 17.
@FarmerJayhawk the better hope they get him then. They are in no position to turn kids down in hopes of landing someone else.
BShark said:
Todd down to KU and Michigan. Announcing Oct 17.
wow.
Overseas tbd later I'm assuming
@rockchalkwyo Yeah seems done.
BShark said:
Todd down to KU and Michigan. Announcing Oct 17.
I'm sure not getting my hopes up - - -- haven't heard a lot of Tod talk around here - -Course that doesn't necessarily mean a bad thing. - - I remember reading somewhere , they saying this could be a year when we sign guys that we haven't heard that much about, - - talk about - - maybe this is one of them who knows. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Overseas still firmly in play anyway.
BShark said:
Overseas still firmly in play anyway.
That’s my pick
Perfectly okay with Gethro instead of Todd (if that's how it ends up)
I understand the difference in their talent level, one is clearly better then the other at this stage but Todd is the type of recruit that got us in the mess we dug ourselves in.
You wonder if a recruit like Todd ends up at Michigan if they still had Belein? I would think he doesn't.
BShark said:
@rockchalkwyo Yeah seems done.
Asked my guy who works around NC schools and knows people who know Todd and he’s thought KU for a long time.
@BeddieKU23 Yeah you would think Gethro would be a 4 year guy which we need. And definitely not, Howard is much more willing to recruit than Belein from the looks of it.
@FarmerJayhawk Don't do this to me lol.
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Yeah you would think Gethro would be a 4 year guy which we need. And definitely not, Howard is much more willing to recruit than Belein from the looks of it.
@FarmerJayhawk Don't do this to me lol.
I really could see KU getting a commitment then Todd bolting in the spring. Can’t play HS hoops when fielding offers from pro teams (I think)
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
@rockchalkwyo Yeah seems done.
Asked my guy who works around NC schools and knows people who know Todd and he’s thought KU for a long time.
Not trying to doubt your friends who know the Todd's BUT sure looks like to me he is headed to Michigan.
Since he named his two finalists - - Michigan has gotten 4 CB picks today - -seems like somebody must know something , and others following suit. - -Something leak? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
@rockchalkwyo Yeah seems done.
Asked my guy who works around NC schools and knows people who know Todd and he’s thought KU for a long time.
Not trying to doubt your friends who know the Todd's BUT sure looks like to me he is headed to Michigan.
Since he named his two finalists - - Michigan has gotten 4 CB picks today - -seems like somebody must know something , and others following suit. - -Something leak? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
With respect to the pickers, I don’t trust their opinions much. I think a lot of guys won’t even put them in as long as overseas looks like the eventual landing spot.
FarmerJayhawk said:
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
@rockchalkwyo Yeah seems done.
Asked my guy who works around NC schools and knows people who know Todd and he’s thought KU for a long time.
Not trying to doubt your friends who know the Todd's BUT sure looks like to me he is headed to Michigan.
Since he named his two finalists - - Michigan has gotten 4 CB picks today - -seems like somebody must know something , and others following suit. - -Something leak? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
With respect to the pickers, I don’t trust their opinions much. I think a lot of guys won’t even put them in as long as overseas looks like the eventual landing spot.
Were is this overseas talk is coming from
FarmerJayhawk said:
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
@rockchalkwyo Yeah seems done.
Asked my guy who works around NC schools and knows people who know Todd and he’s thought KU for a long time.
Not trying to doubt your friends who know the Todd's BUT sure looks like to me he is headed to Michigan.
Since he named his two finalists - - Michigan has gotten 4 CB picks today - -seems like somebody must know something , and others following suit. - -Something leak? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
With respect to the pickers, I don’t trust their opinions much. I think a lot of guys won’t even put them in as long as overseas looks like the eventual landing spot.
Understandable bud , even if we were to get him for a year - would be a sweet addition for us, me myself, I just don't feel very confident about him landing here - -over sea's or not
Does anyone know if Bryce Thompson came down this weekend or not, I didn't see him at late night on Friday
alwaysajayhawk said:
Does anyone know if Bryce Thompson came down this weekend or not, I didn't see him at late night on Friday
He did. Arrived on the 5th.
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
@rockchalkwyo Yeah seems done.
Asked my guy who works around NC schools and knows people who know Todd and he’s thought KU for a long time.
Not trying to doubt your friends who know the Todd's BUT sure looks like to me he is headed to Michigan.
Since he named his two finalists - - Michigan has gotten 4 CB picks today - -seems like somebody must know something , and others following suit. - -Something leak? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
With respect to the pickers, I don’t trust their opinions much. I think a lot of guys won’t even put them in as long as overseas looks like the eventual landing spot.
Were is this overseas talk is coming from
Quite a few folks have asked him about it and he’s never denied he’s interested or it’s a legit option.
Announcing for Michigan but even after that I wouldn't rule out overseas.
Any chance at Davion Bradford? Announcing Friday apparently after visiting over the weekend...
BeddieKU23 said:
Any chance at Davion Bradford? Announcing Friday apparently after visiting over the weekend...
KSU. Like farmer said the staff prefers Gethro.
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/marial-mading-256811 ↗
https://n.rivals.com/news/junior-college-four-star-marial-mading-gaining-admirers ↗
I apologize if this was already shared.
He looks awesome
@rockchalkwyo @BeddieKU23 Oregon getting involved with Mading fwiw.
Couple of recruit follow ups and what they have been saying:
Javonte Brown Ferguson on his visit to KU : --- The KU visit went great , They ( KU ) want me . - -They need two big's - - - They said IF Gethro Muscadin & Isaiah Todd sign then it wouldn't be the best thing for me to come. -- 70/30 % chance he will be re-classifying and make his Decision after the New Year.
KK Robinson was asked about his visit : - - -Said he loved it. -- -The Atmosphere in Allen Fieldhouse was crazy. - - Being able to see Snoop Dogg also was a great experience. - - They ( KU ) said that they weren't recruiting me to sit the Bench. They are recruiting me to make plays and to be one of the go to guys down the line - - - - Of Course I have to earn it - - - Nothing is given. ( - -Love that reasoning from him ) - - Then he says " I Think I'll fit great in their system - - sounds encouraging -- Coach Self has always done great with little Guards - - -I like our chances with him I believe - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
thx hopefully can close on KK
BeddieKU23 said:
thx hopefully can close on KK
ya, hope they can to. - -from his comments , sure very easily could mean nothing/have no substance BUT when he said " I think I'll fit great into their system ? - - things that make ME go hmmmm -- anyways - -probably me just being silly/wishful thinking. - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
thx hopefully can close on KK
One to pay attention to at least.
If the staff can close on KK and Gethro in the fall in spite of everything I'll be very impressed with the recruiting efforts.
Definitely got the wishful thinking meter up a few notches hearing the fit comment. Those tend to be important details to read in between the lines from. We'll see, he still has visits left.
BeddieKU23 said:
Definitely got the wishful thinking meter up a few notches hearing the fit comment. Those tend to be important details to read in between the lines from. We'll see, he still has visits left.
Ya , KK - -is visiting Illinois , this weekend - -then he visits Arkansas Oct 18th-20th , still considering Iowa State - - Vanderbilt - - & Virginia Tech
Personally myself I think I would be more afraid of Arkansas then anyone else , and that's more then anything just because of them being a home School - -possibly with Iowa State following them up - -I feel good really right now - -but watch Arkansas I think this very well could come down to us and them. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Agree I think Arkansas is the team to fear here with Mussleman taking over and running a NBA style offense.
Not 2020 but the visit went very well for Kendall Brown. Sounds like he is going to visit again for the UW Milwaukee game.
BShark said:
Not 2020 but the visit went very well for Kendall Brown. Sounds like he is going to visit again for the UW Milwaukee game.
Ya , I had heard /read that he loved his visit - - 2021 right? - -think I saw we were at 100% - -with him BUT only 1 CB prediction lol. - - - seriously would be a nice start with him. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
jayballer73 said:
BShark said:
Not 2020 but the visit went very well for Kendall Brown. Sounds like he is going to visit again for the UW Milwaukee game.
Ya , I had heard /read that he loved his visit - - 2021 right? - -think I saw we were at 100% - -with him BUT only 1 CB prediction lol. - - - seriously would be a nice start with him. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
That right we are at 100%with him
Did anyone hear how Gethro's visit to Texas Tech went?
@rockchalkwyo probably fine but I'm not worried about TT.
Bill self is going to see gethro's on Thursday
Our friend Corey changed his pick from TTU to KU today fwiw.
BShark said:
Our friend Corey changed his pick from TTU to KU today fwiw.
For Gethro ?
@jayballer73 Yes
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
Bill self is going to see gethro's on Thursday
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Juco 4 star Prospect Tyon Grant-Foster is visiting KU this weekend.
Eric Bossi had this to say recently about him:
I know that Scrubb has been given the title of best prospect in the Junior College ranks, but do-it-all wing Tyon Grant-Foster of Ottumwa (Iowa) Indiana Hills has to be in the conversation as well. A native of Kansas City, Kans., Grant-Foster is extremely versatile, athletic and still developing physically. There's a good reason that he's now racked up offers from Georgia, Kansas, Iowa State, LSU, Miami, Oklahoma State, Oregon, SMU, Texas A&M, Virginia Tech and others.
Bossi also says the Juco ranks this season is the deepest he's seen in a while.
@BeddieKU23 I can't tell you how excited I am at the prospect of snagging JUCO players. I am now experiencing much the same giddiness that a UTSA or Southern Illinois fan must feel upon hearing such news.
Sometimes you find good ones but I get the sarcasm built in your comment.
Recruiting Juco's and developmental type players is the result of recruiting the Billy Preston's of the world. KU's rep on the recruiting circuit has hit a big speed bump for now
@BeddieKU23 I would suggest, perhaps, that this new necessity is of Bill Self's creation, as this entire scandal and issue sits at his doorstep, in my opinion.
I keep going back to his words last fall -
"As the leader of the Kansas men’s basketball program, I take pride in my role to operate with integrity and within the NCAA rules, which is a fundamental responsibility of being the head basketball coach."
We would not be in this spot if Self followed his stated expectations.
We wouldn't have a functional basketball team without playing the shoe game so there is that too.
As far as JUCOs go in general I'd take this kid and Mading for sure. Wrap up Gethro and KK Robinson and I think that is about as good a class as we can hope for.
Who was the last JC kid that made a impact on college basketball? At KU Mario Little was a good player, but there are just not many at all that go on too become even decent players.
I understand the situation that KU is in, but even with that this is pretty concerning to me.
Woodrow said:
Who was the last JC kid that made a impact on college basketball? At KU Mario Little was a good player, but there are just not many at all that go on too become even decent players.
I understand the situation that KU is in, but even with that this is pretty concerning to me.
Shakur Juiston, Pierre Jackson, Jae Crowder, Jimmy Butler.
These are outliers but it can be done. I think it's more likely we get cogs out of JUCO, not stars.
BShark said:
We wouldn't have a functional basketball team without playing the shoe game so there is that too.
As far as JUCOs go in general I'd take this kid and Mading for sure. Wrap up Gethro and KK Robinson and I think that is about as good a class as we can hope for.
I go back to my prior point - If we seem to know that shoe companies pay kids (the shoeco game), that it's such common knowledge, then Bill Self knows. Bill Self has clearly and distinctly denied any such knowledge. That would make Bill Self a liar of a quite high degree. Add to it the "integrity" comment by Self and then the "honesty and integrity" comment by Long. It is just reprehensible.
And, as we stand here, we're talking about JUCO kids at KU. Tyrone Appleton is my hero, though, so maybe it's not all bad.
@Woodrow I know Mading was. The other kid I think was unranked but there are other factors there such as the services quit evaluating kids once it is known they won't qualify. I need to see what I can find out about him. I know Oregon, LSU, ISU and TAMU all offered as well combined with what I've seen there is something there to his game. Biggest issue is his jumper.
Who was the hutch Juco kid, long time ago, Ben ?
Juco's definitely have a low success rate. Foster has a lot of High Major attention so its not just KU that wants him. It is unusual for KU to have to go this route but we all know why that's happening this recruiting cycle. Foster is intriguing with his size and skills. From a numbers perspective KU will need them and really can't pick and choose to the standard they were accustomed to
BShark said:
We wouldn't have a functional basketball team without playing the shoe game so there is that too.
As far as JUCOs go in general I'd take this kid and Mading for sure. Wrap up Gethro and KK Robinson and I think that is about as good a class as we can hope for.
as for me - - like you say because of the way things are - - -I would really like to be able to land Mading - think he pretty solid - -Now I don't want to over due or anything but to think Juco's is a plague - -is just crazy - - lots of really good Juco's and can really help during certain times. ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
jayballer73 said:
BShark said:
We wouldn't have a functional basketball team without playing the shoe game so there is that too.
As far as JUCOs go in general I'd take this kid and Mading for sure. Wrap up Gethro and KK Robinson and I think that is about as good a class as we can hope for.
as for me - - like you say because of the way things are - - -I would really like to be able to land Mading - think he pretty solid - -Now I don't want to over due or anything but to think Juco's is a plague - -is just crazy - - lots of really good Juco's and can really help during certain times. ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Give me some examples of JUCO guys that make solid contributions for blue blood programs or typical top 10 teams ... I just don't see it. You don't have to. I get your point that casting all JUCO guys as low tier isn't reality.
However, I'm just bitter right now with where we are at. As @BeddieKU23 said, we needing to fill roster spots.
We've struggled recruiting anyway. We've continued to play second fiddle for a number of seasons -- supposedly when we, er, Adidas, was paying guys.
@Crimsonorblue22 it was Ben Davis
HighEliteMajor said:
jayballer73 said:
BShark said:
We wouldn't have a functional basketball team without playing the shoe game so there is that too.
As far as JUCOs go in general I'd take this kid and Mading for sure. Wrap up Gethro and KK Robinson and I think that is about as good a class as we can hope for.
as for me - - like you say because of the way things are - - -I would really like to be able to land Mading - think he pretty solid - -Now I don't want to over due or anything but to think Juco's is a plague - -is just crazy - - lots of really good Juco's and can really help during certain times. ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Give me some examples of JUCO guys that make solid contributions for blue blood programs or typical top 10 teams ... I just don't see it. You don't have to. I get your point that casting all JUCO guys as low tier isn't reality.
However, I'm just bitter right now with where we are at. As @BeddieKU23 said, we needing to fill roster spots.
We've struggled recruiting anyway. We've continued to play second fiddle for a number of seasons -- supposedly when we, er, Adidas, was paying guys.
I'm not sharp enough to remember Juco Names from times past - - yet I do know that there have been some pretty solid players from Juco - -could be wrong but wasn't Larry Johnson a juco that played for UNLV ? - - seems to me he was a pretty dam solid Juco - -doesn't have to just be Blue Bloods.
Do I prefer Juco ? - -hell no I don't, - I agree with you to a point that I do am umm disappointed with where were at - - wouldn't say bitter - -pretty much just saying seeing as where were at - -were at then myself if there is a Juco that can help the program and I fully believe the ones being discussed here CAN help the program - -then I'm not going to turn my back just because they are Juco. - -As a Coach I'm going to take the talent that I have available that can help in our current situation.
Juco recruits at Blue Bloods or perennial Top 10 teams is almost non-existent so there's very little data to even discuss such occurrences. If you expand the discussion to Power 5, you'll get at least a handful every year that make contributions or become key players in the right situations.
If your not in trouble (like KU is currently) they could recruit at a level we expect from this staff. I understand the optics of this- the "sky is falling" because we're getting slapped around by the FBI/NCAA right now that we have to look at Juco's just to potentially fill spots.
Personally I didn't think we'd get anyone on campus after the NOA came, much less have a chance to sign 1-3 guys in the fall (regardless of their rank, talent). I have to give the staff credit if they close on some guys this fall despite the issues facing them.
If the evaluators are right about this years JUCO kids there may be a few outliers in the bunch. Louisville just got a commitment from arguably the top JUCO guard in the Country instead of going all in on Some Top 100 HS kids they were definitely in contention for.
"He is recruiting me to come be a starter if I work and said that if I work there's no reason I won't be able to play 25 or 30 minutes a game."
That's um, that's something.
BShark said:
"He is recruiting me to come be a starter if I work and said that if I work there's no reason I won't be able to play 25 or 30 minutes a game."
That's um, that's something.
I could be wrong about this - - BUT when reading what he has to say , when they are asking him about his next steps - -he says he is not sure will have to see about setting up more visits - -whether he NEEDS to set up more visits after visiting Ku & Iowa State- -my 1st thought on that is - -almost sounds like if things goes well with those two visits - -then these are the two he will decide between Ku & Iowa St - -might be nuts but kind of sounds like that to me anyways - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BShark said:
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/tyon-grant-foster-256774 ↗
:thinking_face:
me thinks -- I likes the looks of that - -yes me likey lol - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Kentucky getting involved with Mading. He probably sucks tho.
whispers I don't think he is a great fit for Bill in all seriousness. I also don't think Kentucky would really press him for a commit but we will see.
HighEliteMajor said:
I go back to my prior point - If we seem to know that shoe companies pay kids (the shoeco game), that it's such common knowledge, then Bill Self knows. Bill Self has clearly and distinctly denied any such knowledge. That would make Bill Self a liar of a quite high degree. Add to it the "integrity" comment by Self and then the "honesty and integrity" comment by Long. It is just reprehensible.
To play devil's advocate, we most certainly live in an "ends justify the means" world, and "today's pirates are tomorrow's admirals"
Also, we complained bitterly about Self's unwillingness to adapt earlier in his time at Kansas, playing guys that we didnt think had the ceiling to deserve PT. If I recall, this might roughly correspond to his time playing the likes of Jamari, Landen, Morningstar etc major minutes. Well, he complained about the system, complained about east coast media bias, and then.... He adapted! Just had to "get a few dudes".
@approxinfinity Speaking of adapting he talked about playing a zone to stay big this year. Billy Self playin' zone. What a time to be alive.
Are things gonna get this bad?
Half wondering if this is related to Gethro as well.
BShark said:
Are things gonna get this bad?
Half wondering if this is related to Gethro as well.
This Bad ? - - so what's the story with this kid?
So here is what I would like to see if possible for commits NOW. lol
So if we could get these four all things considered - -I'd be good. - -Land KK Robinson , - - Foster , - - Mading - -& Brown/Ferguson stated that KU had told him if we got Todd & Mading - -probably wouldn't be good to come - - - Well Todd isn't Coming Sooooo , he re-classifies like he says is probably going to happen , then welcome aboard - -land those 4 we bwe good - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BShark said:
Are things gonna get this bad?
Half wondering if this is related to Gethro as well.
Wide net. Potential walk on.
@FarmerJayhawk Any idea on when Gethro will announce? It looks like he has taken 4 OV and doesn't have anymore scheduled...
I know we are not going to get any "elite" players this year, but it would be nice to get someone on board and try to get some sort of momentum.
Scott Chasen wrote an article about Aiden Shaw’s visit but it’s VIP. Can anyone tell us what it’s about please
90% sure Bryce Thompson has eliminated Kansas. I think OU with UNC on the outskirts. I’ll keep asking about KU until I know it’s not us. But I the NCAA cloud is doing some bad things to us right now on the trial. Not exactly breaking news, but the consequences become more real for each kid we miss on.
This should surprise no one. Cannot blame the kid
Maybe a good sign concerning Grant-Foster and KU as Iowa St picked up a Top 150 Small Forward yesterday.
Davion Bradford expectedly picked Kansas St
Oklahoma St recently lost their Top 100 PG who probably has seen all the Cunningham press and bolted
BeddieKU23 said:
Maybe a good sign concerning Grant-Foster and KU as Iowa St picked up a Top 150 Small Forward yesterday.
Davion Bradford expectedly picked Kansas St
Oklahoma St recently lost their Top 100 PG who probably has seen all the Cunningham press and bolted
KSU is currently one over now I believe. Hilarious they think they might still get Gethro. Not saying he is 100% coming to KU but if he does go elsewhere I do not see it being KSU when Memphis and Louisville are recruiting him too.
I at least haven't seen many KSU fans claiming Bradford as a win over KU when KU never offered and the visit felt like keeping the new found good relationship with MOKAN going.
KSU has a great class for them. #11 in the country on 247 but that won't hold up. Still a very solid class, the after effects of a good tournament run followed by sharing the league title.
Looks like ISU is still recruiting in the 150-300 range. I can't really doubt them though with how good Haliburton and Conditt look. Their evaluation game seems strong. Wouldn't surprise me if they took him knowing Grant-Foster is leaning heavily towards KU. He could easily be KU's first commit in this class.
Gethro taking another unofficial to Louisville. Second in two weeks. Seems like they lead for him.
Aspire is in Louisville tbf. They could land him but there isn't a ton of smoke currently. It would be a rough miss after not offering Bradford.
KU, KSU, Louisville and Tech looking like his final four.
Well Crap , been ALOT of smoke going on - - looks more justified now - - smoke saying Cunningham IS NOT going to land at Okie St - -looks like might have some substance.
Evan Daniels just put in a CB for Cunningham to who else - - -Kentucky. - they are going to be just insanely loaded - - AGAIN , if this turns out - BUT the last couple of years - - Duke has been pretty loaded , didn't win any Championship - that's why they play the games -still fricken crazy. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Okie Lite is out on Cade. UK or UNC, but likely UK. Bryce is OU or UNC, likely OU.
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Maybe a good sign concerning Grant-Foster and KU as Iowa St picked up a Top 150 Small Forward yesterday.
Davion Bradford expectedly picked Kansas St
Oklahoma St recently lost their Top 100 PG who probably has seen all the Cunningham press and bolted
KSU is currently one over now I believe. Hilarious they think they might still get Gethro. Not saying he is 100% coming to KU but if he does go elsewhere I do not see it being KSU when Memphis and Louisville are recruiting him too.
I at least haven't seen many KSU fans claiming Bradford as a win over KU when KU never offered and the visit felt like keeping the new found good relationship with MOKAN going.
KSU has a great class for them. #11 in the country on 247 but that won't hold up. Still a very solid class, the after effects of a good tournament run followed by sharing the league title.
Looks like ISU is still recruiting in the 150-300 range. I can't really doubt them though with how good Haliburton and Conditt look. Their evaluation game seems strong. Wouldn't surprise me if they took him knowing Grant-Foster is leaning heavily towards KU. He could easily be KU's first commit in this class.
I think there's a few bodies that will move on from Weber's team as always. Nobody wants to listen to that pip-squeak
ISU has to be done at wing since they have a sit-out transfer that will likely start next year. I think the Blackwell commitment was foreshadowing of KU's chances with Grant-Foster.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Okie Lite is out on Cade. UK or UNC, but likely UK. Bryce is OU or UNC, likely OU.
Wow.
Would seem like Lock City for Cunningham to UK after Evan put his pick in.
The have's and the have-not's are really starting to show now.. KU is trending in the latter
@BeddieKU23 And the irony of that as it relates to "Shoe Money" is just maddening.
BOOM
Welcome to the University of Kansas Mr. Tyon Gant-foster
Scotty Barnes lands at Florida St.
Nike controlled this one no matter where he went. Guess they want him in the ACC
BeddieKU23 said:
Scotty Barnes lands at Florida St.
Nike controlled this one no matter where he went. Guess they want him in the ACC
Looks like the ole crystal ball got fooled.
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Scotty Barnes lands at Florida St.
Nike controlled this one no matter where he went. Guess they want him in the ACC
Looks like the ole crystal ball got fooled.
Being a FSU football fan (unfortunate these days) there was optimism Ham did a good job with this one. It's a big time grab for them.
Bossi has a good writeup. Kid’s going to be a player. https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/kansas-gets-on-the-board-with-tyon-grant-foster ↗
No idea if KU will get involved but Jalen Terry is back on the market after de-committing from Michigan State.
BShark said:
No idea if KU will get involved but Jalen Terry is back on the market after de-committing from Michigan State.
I don't think we will
BeddieKU23 said:
Scotty Barnes lands at Florida St.
Nike controlled this one no matter where he went. Guess they want him in the ACC
Mercy - -thought he was Oregon bound for sure
Now Ok so next up Gethro - -& KK - -I'd take that ok
jayballer73 said:
Now Ok so next up Gethro - -& KK - -I'd take that ok
I would bet on both committing before the first game of the season. Not saying the picks will be KU just that both are looking like fall signees.
BShark said:
jayballer73 said:
Now Ok so next up Gethro - -& KK - -I'd take that ok
I would bet on both committing before the first game of the season. Not saying the picks will be KU just that both are looking like fall signees.
Kk has said all the right things regarding KU lately. Both kids have either foreshadowed a commitment or just playing the game
@BeddieKU23 Seems like the Robinson camp isn't leaking anything. Zero picks on Rivals or 24/7.
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Seems like the Robinson camp isn't leaking anything. Zero picks on Rivals or 24/7.
Pretty rare. Maybe hasn't made up his mind yet? He has more visits right? Something to monitor after his other visits.
Given what we are facing on the recruiting trail he's about as good a prospect as we can land right now. Certainly has the film of a player Self likes to have in the program. Harris & Robinson battling for the PG spot next year would be a bit intriguing and scary.
Gethro is announcing on November 1.
Woodrow said:
Gethro is announcing on November 1.
No pick movement yet. Will be telling if there is a big burst soon.
Playa and Chasen put in KU picks. Chasen isn't an insider but he only puts in a pick when he is very confident hence his low number of picks but 95% success rate.
Woodrow said:
Gethro is announcing on November 1.
Locked it down on his in-home. Nice pickup.
Good news! Gethro has some bounce to him. Will be interesting to see what the new S&C coach can do to him..
BeddieKU23 said:
Good news! Gethro has some bounce to him. Will be interesting to see what the new S&C coach can do to him..
He could be an absolute monster by year 3 and likely won't have to start next year.
Self visiting Todd today, likely to get the news in person. I'll ask my friend about the weather in Sydney.
@FarmerJayhawk I wonder why he is even visiting. Everyone knows he is going to Michigan. ( at least committing there)
Woodrow said:
@FarmerJayhawk I wonder why he is even visiting. Everyone knows he is going to Michigan. ( at least committing there)
Honestly what else would Self being doing today? Just playing the game here.
Just wondering - -what's our chances of Getting Gethro & Javonte both to commit to us?
I know Javonte stated that Coach told him that if both Todd and Gethro committed then it probably wouldn't be good for him to come - - Well Todd isn't coming here Soooooo?
If we could get Brown to go with Gethro & KK & Foster - -that would be a nice class considering - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
jayballer73 said:
Just wondering - -what's our chances of Getting Gethro & Javonte both to commit to us?
I know Javonte stated that Coach told him that if both Todd and Gethro committed then it probably wouldn't be good for him to come - - Well Todd isn't coming here Soooooo?
If we could get Brown to go with Gethro & KK & Foster - -that would be a nice class considering - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Javonte will be an Aggie so 0%. Feel great about getting Gethro though.
BShark said:
Woodrow said:
@FarmerJayhawk I wonder why he is even visiting. Everyone knows he is going to Michigan. ( at least committing there)
Honestly what else would Self being doing today? Just playing the game here.
Recruiting someone we have a chance at...
I mean I know it is part of the game and maybe he does think he can flip him or is just doing it out of respect.
Woodrow said:
BShark said:
Woodrow said:
@FarmerJayhawk I wonder why he is even visiting. Everyone knows he is going to Michigan. ( at least committing there)
Honestly what else would Self being doing today? Just playing the game here.
Recruiting someone we have a chance at...
I mean I know it is part of the game and maybe he does think he can flip him or is just doing it out of respect.
I would assume it's the latter. You put the time in and got listed in the final 2 so even though it's obviously Michigan you play along and check in.
Anyone with Rivals premium?
https://kansasstate.forums.rivals.com/threads/gethro-muscadin.113426/ ↗
See where we got another CB - -for Gethro M. - - Gershon put in his CB for him.
Again we got Foster - -we pick up KK - -Gethro and maybe Javonte - -would be good
Edited my post guys - - got another CB for Gethro - -from Louisville insider at 7:59 tonight -- - 10 CB'S - -100 % KU - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Louisville’s guy just put in a KU pick for Gethro. 🔒🔒🔒🔒🔒🔒
FarmerJayhawk said:
Louisville’s guy just put in a KU pick for Gethro. 🔒🔒🔒🔒🔒🔒
Lol yeah I saw that. Gethro has been following him on twitter for awhile and you have to imagine with Aspire being in Louisville that he would be tied in.
KSU fans will be prepping their didn't want him anyway tweets.
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Louisville’s guy just put in a KU pick for Gethro. 🔒🔒🔒🔒🔒🔒
Lol yeah I saw that. Gethro has been following him on twitter for awhile and you have to imagine with Aspire being in Louisville that he would be tied in.
KSU fans will be prepping their didn't want him anyway tweets.
They can add it to the try harder next time banner they got
Gethro's will be Making his announcement today at noon
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
Gethro's will be Making his announcement today at noon
I thought he wasn't announcing till the 1st? -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer73 That was the plan, but it looks like that has changed.
jayballer73 said:
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
Gethro's will be Making his announcement today at noon
I thought he wasn't announcing till the 1st? -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
HE MOVE IT UP
He's too excited to be a Kansas Jayhawk he can't contain it.
BShark said:
He's too excited to be a Kansas Jayhawk he can't contain it.
YEP
boom
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
jayballer73 said:
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
Gethro's will be Making his announcement today at noon
I thought he wasn't announcing till the 1st? -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
HE MOVE IT UP
Awesome , where did you see this at?
jayballer73 said:
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
jayballer73 said:
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
Gethro's will be Making his announcement today at noon
I thought he wasn't announcing till the 1st? -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
HE MOVE IT UP
Awesome , where did you see this at?
Ya Swain has put in a CB for us and Gethro this morning too - so yes sir. - - - - now we need KK. - - - - fully understand that these high school kids - -Gethro & if we can get KK - both 4 year kids but just get them in and get them developed more - we be ok. ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
RCJH
Giggety. Self going to see Thompson today.
Article says of LJW that according to analysts Gethro has probably the best possibility for biggest jump in rankings - -that just with him committing to Ku will probably put him in the top 100. - - just coming into his game. - -hopefully be a good 4 yeat player for us.
Looking at his picture - -looks a LITTLE BETTER then what I thought when read his stats - -6'10 & 215 is pretty lean - but looks a little better then that looks more like possibly 220 - needs work in the weight room. - -ROCK CHALK AL DAY LONG BABY
FarmerJayhawk said:
Giggety. Self going to see Thompson today.
Comp visit given the relationship?
FarmerJayhawk said:
Giggety. Self going to see Thompson today.
Wish he could pull some Magic for sure - - BUT just afraid that ship has sailed - - believe you said didn't you think it's NC - or Oklahoma?
BeddieKU23 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Giggety. Self going to see Thompson today.
Comp visit given the relationship?
I think it’s a Hail Mary. Pretty sure he’ll end up at OU.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Giggety. Self going to see Thompson today.
Keep on trucking Bill
Things I'm seeing points to him ending up at Oklahoma
FarmerJayhawk said:
BeddieKU23 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Giggety. Self going to see Thompson today.
Comp visit given the relationship?
I think it’s a Hail Mary. Pretty sure he’ll end up at OU.
Might be the last time they get to see him before he ends it. Given the longstanding relationship I can see this being a nice get together that ends with thanks for recruiting me
Todd to Michigan ( for now ) official
Woodrow said:
Todd to Michigan ( for now ) official
I'm pretty sure hes gonna stay therebasically official
Any updates on whether or not the Hail Mary was completed? If he ends up at OU can we have the play reviewed for PI?
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Any updates on whether or not the Hail Mary was completed? If he ends up at OU can we have the play reviewed for PI?
Well Slater just CB’d Bryce to KU...
FarmerJayhawk said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Any updates on whether or not the Hail Mary was completed? If he ends up at OU can we have the play reviewed for PI?
Well Slater just CB’d Bryce to KU...
It's hard to tell when he is trolling. UNC definitely feels out since they are getting RJ Davis though.
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Any updates on whether or not the Hail Mary was completed? If he ends up at OU can we have the play reviewed for PI?
Well Slater just CB’d Bryce to KU...
It's hard to tell when he is trolling. UNC definitely feels out since they are getting RJ Davis though.
I still think OU but we’ll see I suppose.
@FarmerJayhawk it would be a miracle!
Lon Kruger is so blah! Jmo
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@FarmerJayhawk it would be a miracle!
Bill is one of the best closers out there...
Do we know yet - - - Has Bryce announced any kind of a time frame as to when he wants to commit ? - - has he mentioned any date? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Any updates on whether or not the Hail Mary was completed? If he ends up at OU can we have the play reviewed for PI?
Well Slater just CB’d Bryce to KU...
It's hard to tell when he is trolling. UNC definitely feels out since they are getting RJ Davis though.
I still think OU but we’ll see I suppose.
Actually I don’t.
FarmerJayhawk said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Any updates on whether or not the Hail Mary was completed? If he ends up at OU can we have the play reviewed for PI?
Well Slater just CB’d Bryce to KU...
It's hard to tell when he is trolling. UNC definitely feels out since they are getting RJ Davis though.
I still think OU but we’ll see I suppose.
Actually I don’t.
This would be quite the coup.
FarmerJayhawk said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Any updates on whether or not the Hail Mary was completed? If he ends up at OU can we have the play reviewed for PI?
Well Slater just CB’d Bryce to KU...
It's hard to tell when he is trolling. UNC definitely feels out since they are getting RJ Davis though.
I still think OU but we’ll see I suppose.
Actually I don’t.
Are you getting a feeling / a sense possibly for us on this FarmerJayhawk ? - - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Any updates on whether or not the Hail Mary was completed? If he ends up at OU can we have the play reviewed for PI?
Well Slater just CB’d Bryce to KU...
It's hard to tell when he is trolling. UNC definitely feels out since they are getting RJ Davis though.
I still think OU but we’ll see I suppose.
Actually I don’t.
Are you getting a feeling / a sense possibly for us on this FarmerJayhawk ? - - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
This is going to be super unsatisfying but I could see him picking OU, KU, or UNC. Things should get more clear this week.
FarmerJayhawk said:
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Any updates on whether or not the Hail Mary was completed? If he ends up at OU can we have the play reviewed for PI?
Well Slater just CB’d Bryce to KU...
It's hard to tell when he is trolling. UNC definitely feels out since they are getting RJ Davis though.
I still think OU but we’ll see I suppose.
Actually I don’t.
Are you getting a feeling / a sense possibly for us on this FarmerJayhawk ? - - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
This is going to be super unsatisfying but I could see him picking OU, KU, or UNC. Things should get more clear this week.
Well we still got a fairly good shot I think. - Was reading off the Phog FWIW - -but a poster there said that on the OU Board I guess their main guy was saying that KU was now in the lead - by a slim margin - Ku & then OU running a close 2nd
A poster also brought up and interesting thought makes SOME sense anyways - -he was saying with the way these NCAA transfer is now that now days if a kid were to commit and then ya know say Bryce committed to KU then the NCAA slams us with probation - - Bryce could transfer out and chances more likely then not be eligible somewhere else probably immediately - - And or with the chance quite possibly being OAD then like he also said it's probably going to be a year or two before anything is settled in cement with this thing -because if we are found guilty - -then we have an appeal process - -so really in the end would effect Bryce anyways.
Know that can be a reach - -but still - Bryce has said after his final visit that he was going to sit down with his Parents and talk about things and commitment - - who knows we MIGHT hear something this week. - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
better news then we thought would come out after the OU official. would be a colossal pull given the circumstances
Ryan thinks Bryce could be a hawk.. Interesting info he's come upon.
Bryce. 🔒🔒🔒🔒🔒
FarmerJayhawk said:
Bryce. 🔒🔒🔒🔒🔒
To who
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Bryce. 🔒🔒🔒🔒🔒
To who
Rock Chalk Jayhawk
🙏🙏🙏
Javonte Brown Ferguson is down to Texas A&M, UCONN, and KU. Will probably commit in the next couple of weeks. Not sure how much KU is in this one, but just passing it on.
FarmerJayhawk said:
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Bryce. 🔒🔒🔒🔒🔒
To who
Rock Chalk Jayhawk
lol, do you know something that we don't know that your not tell your pals - - -you little raschal lol. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Woodrow said:
Javonte Brown Ferguson is down to Texas A&M, UCONN, and KU. Will probably commit in the next couple of weeks. Not sure how much KU is in this one, but just passing it on.
BShark said:
Woodrow said:
Javonte Brown Ferguson is down to Texas A&M, UCONN, and KU. Will probably commit in the next couple of weeks. Not sure how much KU is in this one, but just passing it on.
Yes he likely to go to a&m
Woodrow said:
@BShark From what I have seen today on Twitter it seems like UCONN is going to be the pick for him. One thing is for sure it is not going to be KU it appears.
Definitely not KU. With Dave being back, Silvio possibly being back, Mitch possibly taking a RS, landing Gethro and Enaruna/Wilson able to play the 4 I don't think KU will add another big.
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Bryce. 🔒🔒🔒🔒🔒
To who
Rock Chalk Jayhawk
lol, do you know something that we don't know that your not tell your pals - - -you little raschal lol. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I've emptied the bag my man!
To @BShark's point, the two biggest "recruits" left on the board are Silvio and Ochai. Harris, Thompson, Ochai, Silvio, McCormack is easily another top 5 team. Even if Silvio goes, we could go small (even though Enaruna is taller than Silvio?) with Wilson or Enaruna at the 4. Could also go the grad transfer route but that seems less likely.
FarmerJayhawk said:
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Bryce. 🔒🔒🔒🔒🔒
To who
Rock Chalk Jayhawk
lol, do you know something that we don't know that your not tell your pals - - -you little raschal lol. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I've emptied the bag my man!
To @BShark's point, the two biggest "recruits" left on the board are Silvio and Ochai. Harris, Thompson, Ochai, Silvio, McCormack is easily another top 5 team. Even if Silvio goes, we could go small (even though Enaruna is taller than Silvio?) with Wilson or Enaruna at the 4. Could also go the grad transfer route but that seems less likely.
Even if Silvio came back I like playing predominantly "small" with the roster and rotating Silvio and Dave at the 5. Makes it easier to find minutes for Garrett, Enaruna and Wilson. Lets you play your best guys more.
FarmerJayhawk said:
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Bryce. 🔒🔒🔒🔒🔒
To who
Rock Chalk Jayhawk
Wow, if true, big news to say the least. Thompson is an absolute assassin.
Zach Berry just put in a KU pick for Bryce on Rivals. Was he planning on announcing this week or just naming his top 3?
Also KK has a pick for Arkansas, again on Rivals
rockchalkwyo said:
Zach Berry just put in a KU pick for Bryce on Rivals. Was he planning on announcing this week or just naming his top 3?
Also KK has a pick for Arkansas, again on Rivals
Do you have the ink
well saw where Meyer put a CB in for KK to Arkansas - - no real surprise - - -at least to me , I've thought all along Arkansas would be the one we would have our hands full on this with.
Not really sure if the little smoke we are now getting with Bryce would have anything to do with that or not.
Bossi just put in a pick for KU. @FarmerJayhawk is right again 🔒 🔒. Knock on wood
jayballer73 said:
well saw where Meyer put a CB in for KK to Arkansas - - no real surprise - - -at least to me , I've thought all along Arkansas would be the one we would have our hands full on this with.
Not really sure if the little smoke we are now getting with Bryce would have anything to do with that or not.
Interesting they already signed a Top 100 PG in Davonte Davis.
BeddieKU23 said:
jayballer73 said:
well saw where Meyer put a CB in for KK to Arkansas - - no real surprise - - -at least to me , I've thought all along Arkansas would be the one we would have our hands full on this with.
Not really sure if the little smoke we are now getting with Bryce would have anything to do with that or not.
Interesting they already signed a Top 100 PG in Davonte Davis.
Looks like Musselman (with shoeco help) is making a big move to lock down the top 4 in state kids.
BeddieKU23 said:
jayballer73 said:
well saw where Meyer put a CB in for KK to Arkansas - - no real surprise - - -at least to me , I've thought all along Arkansas would be the one we would have our hands full on this with.
Not really sure if the little smoke we are now getting with Bryce would have anything to do with that or not.
Interesting they already signed a Top 100 PG in Davonte Davis.
they have ? -- thanks for that info - - -I didn't realize that. - -hmmmm, makes me think maybe even more that KK has found out or possibly heard something come out about Bryce. - -little confused though , Bryce is a combo isn't he? - - KK is a PG so if I'm not mistaking on the position and that is the case Bryce decision shouldn't effect KK decision - I got to be wrong - - old age lol
just read where that guy Dylan Prezkop just put his CB for KK to Arkansas also - - so Bshark looks like you right - - -Shooooooooooes
So Javonte Brown has us in his final 3 and gonna make his decision soon. - -Now BShark says 100 % that he is headed to Texas A&M - - and I'm not saying that your wrong at all believe that , very well could be - -but said that with Gethro coming here would be a reason for him not wanting to come , just can't see that as a reason for him not to.
Brown/F - -had said that Coach Self and staff had told him that IF we got commits from Gethro AND Todd then it probably wouldn't want to come or might not be the best for him to come somewhere along those lines. -- Well Todd didn't commit, they didn't say anything about if Silvio stuck around he shouldn't come
Again I'm not saying he won't go to A&M -you know more then I do I'm sure - -just guessing on my part - -just saying that I just don't think cause Gethro is here that would be enough to keep him away - -personally between the two Gethro and Javonte I'd prefer Javonte - but would be ideal for both - -just random thoughts. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
jayballer73 said:
just read where that guy Dylan Prezkop just put his CB for KK to Arkansas also - - so Bshark looks like you right - - -Shooooooooooes
It's fine we are getting the top target.
KK and Bryce are mutually exclusive.
The thing about Javonte is next years roster doesn't need another big at all, it needs more actual ball handling capable guards.
5s: Dave, hopefully Silvio, Gethro
Undersized 5s: Mitch (assuming he takes a RS this year)
4s: Enaruna, Wilson
That's 6 deep in the post already (which means Gethro probably RS).
FarmerJayhawk said:
KK and Bryce are mutually exclusive.
I figured this was the case. We NEED another ball handling guard but I don't see getting two high level players at that spot.
Best case scenario is now...
1: Harris
1/2/3: Bryce, Garrett
2/3: Ochai, Braun, Tyon
Pretty versatile.
Need some help guys just read off a post and I hadn't seen it anywhere else - -so wondering if anyone else HAD seen it. - -another poster off the Phog like 12 hours ago said that Corey Evans also has now projected that Bryce would commit to KU ? - -has anyone here seen that? - -If true that means Bossi/Slater/Evans have all now said Bryce to KU - -would be huge to see Evan predict KU - - anybody seen anything with Corey -- rock chalk all day long baby
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/bryce-thompson-200857 ↗
Bossi and Corey Evans both picked KU last night
FarmerJayhawk said:
KK and Bryce are mutually exclusive.
They have to be considering an Arkansas insider just put a KU pick in for Bryce
Woodrow said:
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/bryce-thompson-200857 ↗
Bossi and Corey Evans both picked KU last night
thank you - -- hadn't seen it -- that's encouraging - -now we just need to get Evan - -I usually count on Evan seems like he is usually pretty spot on
Ryan seems to think Javonte is headed to U Conn - - interesting. - - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
That is definitely the current smoke. I would expect a flood of UConn picks in the CB soon.
What a turn of events we might be witnessing with Bryce. Felt dead in the water for months here. Would say a lot to land a talent like him in the mess going on
BeddieKU23 said:
What a turn of events we might be witnessing with Bryce. Felt dead in the water for months here. Would say a lot to land a talent like him in the mess going on
boy isn't that the truth.- - - like you say for the mess we are in - -to even think IF he does commit -- if we get no more figure with him & Foster & Gethro - -isn't THAT BAD all things considered - -with Bryce obviously the cream . - Not trying to get my hope all worked up yet but things possibly starting to look better for him. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
KK had himself a MAN'S game the other night on the 16th of October - - he almost had himself a quadruple double against Bluefield College in Saltville in a exhibition - -he went off for : 18 points - - -12 rebounds - - - 9 assists - - & 8 steals - -THAT is a night - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BeddieKU23 said:
What a turn of events we might be witnessing with Bryce. Felt dead in the water for months here. Would say a lot to land a talent like him in the mess going on
No doubt about that. If we can land him to go along with our other two recruits I would call that (while also keeping this year's class in mind) a freaking grand slam!
BeddieKU23 said:
What a turn of events we might be witnessing with Bryce. Felt dead in the water for months here. Would say a lot to land a talent like him in the mess going on
Same. I quit asking about Bryce a couple months ago once I heard he was going to stay home and Cade/Todd would end up at Okie Lite. Once the ground started shifting under those two I just figured we wouldn’t be the beneficiary of any of it. But alas, we’re probably getting Bryce.
Though I’ll eat some crow. UK was taking the first of Askew and Cade. Sounds like Okie Lite is the probably destination for him now. RJ Davis kind of took the spot at UNC but we’ll see I suppose. I think it’s either OSU or UK.
Snoop apparently didn't bother the Thompson family...
I'd imagine landing Bryce would send a message to the rest of the College Basketball World that Bill isn't leaving.
Well just doing some random thinking. - -I know that' usually scary for me lol. Anyways got to thinking read where Boynton was in to see Bryce yesterday & Shaka was into see Bryce too.
Got me to wondering trying to fit this puzzle - -the pieces together , with the little smoke and a few CB'S that we have picked up for Bryce recently and then these Coach's coming in to see him yesterday - -you don't suppose do you that there might be a possibility that he was bringing these Coach's in to tell them about his commitment and thanking them for his recruitment? - - I know Shaka I don't think was really a serious contender was but know Okie St was in there at least at one time. - With him taking his last visit and such and making the statement that after his last visit he would get together with his parents and talk about things?
Could be his decision is coming really soon & he notifying Coach's. I was curious what the talk was on the North Carolina board and read where I guess there was some kind of insider that said that the longer this went on he thought helped KU more - - Plus people saying the Davis commit hurt their chances with Bryce.
Almost comical reading their comments about how dirty KU was and couldn't figure out why ANY parent would want their kid to come play at such a dirty program. - - - Seriously - - Really this coming out of the mouths from all the crap they had going on? - Talking about how Bill Self has made a mockery of the game since he has been at KU - - lmao.
Talk about how they had thought Oklahoma was a figure but heard that Oklahoma had made a last ditch effort with Bryce having the Thunder practice on their floor when Bryce took the official visit and then followed him home to visit with him. - -UNC talking said that since Bryce hadn't committed to them yet they felt like their chances were not so good - -I really haven't hear much about UNC and Bryce lately I think their cooked - - it's OU & KU I like our chances.
jayballer73 said:
Well just doing some random thinking. - -I know that' usually scary for me lol. Anyways got to thinking read where Boynton was in to see Bryce yesterday & Shaka was into see Bryce too.
Got me to wondering trying to fit this puzzle - -the pieces together , with the little smoke and a few CB'S that we have picked up for Bryce recently and then these Coach's coming in to see him yesterday - -you don't suppose do you that there might be a possibility that he was bringing these Coach's in to tell them about his commitment and thanking them for his recruitment? - - I know Shaka I don't think was really a serious contender was but know Okie St was in there at least at one time. - With him taking his last visit and such and making the statement that after his last visit he would get together with his parents and talk about things?
Could be his decision is coming really soon & he notifying Coach's. I was curious what the talk was on the North Carolina board and read where I guess there was some kind of insider that said that the longer this went on he thought helped KU more - - Plus people saying the Davis commit hurt their chances with Bryce.
Almost comical reading their comments about how dirty KU was and couldn't figure out why ANY parent would want their kid to come play at such a dirty program. - - - Seriously - - Really this coming out of the mouths from all the crap they had going on? - Talking about how Bill Self has made a mockery of the game since he has been at KU - - lmao.
Talk about how they had thought Oklahoma was a figure but heard that Oklahoma had made a last ditch effort with Bryce having the Thunder practice on their floor when Bryce took the official visit and then followed him home to visit with him. - -UNC talking said that since Bryce hadn't committed to them yet they felt like their chances were not so good - -I really haven't hear much about UNC and Bryce lately I think their cooked - - it's OU & KU I like our chances.
Between ku and ou
jayballer73 said:
Well just doing some random thinking. - -I know that' usually scary for me lol. Anyways got to thinking read where Boynton was in to see Bryce yesterday & Shaka was into see Bryce too.
Got me to wondering trying to fit this puzzle - -the pieces together , with the little smoke and a few CB'S that we have picked up for Bryce recently and then these Coach's coming in to see him yesterday - -you don't suppose do you that there might be a possibility that he was bringing these Coach's in to tell them about his commitment and thanking them for his recruitment? - - I know Shaka I don't think was really a serious contender was but know Okie St was in there at least at one time. - With him taking his last visit and such and making the statement that after his last visit he would get together with his parents and talk about things?
Could be his decision is coming really soon & he notifying Coach's. I was curious what the talk was on the North Carolina board and read where I guess there was some kind of insider that said that the longer this went on he thought helped KU more - - Plus people saying the Davis commit hurt their chances with Bryce.
Almost comical reading their comments about how dirty KU was and couldn't figure out why ANY parent would want their kid to come play at such a dirty program. - - - Seriously - - Really this coming out of the mouths from all the crap they had going on? - Talking about how Bill Self has made a mockery of the game since he has been at KU - - lmao.
Talk about how they had thought Oklahoma was a figure but heard that Oklahoma had made a last ditch effort with Bryce having the Thunder practice on their floor when Bryce took the official visit and then followed him home to visit with him. - -UNC talking said that since Bryce hadn't committed to them yet they felt like their chances were not so good - -I really haven't hear much about UNC and Bryce lately I think their cooked - - it's OU & KU I like our chances.
It's definitely a 2 horse race between Kansas and Oaklahoma
Roy is in to visit Thompson today
Woodrow said:
Roy is in to visit Thompson today
They don't have a chance
Self on the recruiting effect of the NCAA news: "Recruiting is hard regardless. When you're recruiting at an elite level, you've got obstacles every year. ... It's something we certainly explain out and are very transparent with what's going on. ... I would say it has definitely had an impact."
Self says he also thinks KU could have one of the better early signing periods the school has had "in a long time."
That last quote caught my attention...
Woodrow said:
Self on the recruiting effect of the NCAA news: "Recruiting is hard regardless. When you're recruiting at an elite level, you've got obstacles every year. ... It's something we certainly explain out and are very transparent with what's going on. ... I would say it has definitely had an impact."
Self says he also thinks KU could have one of the better early signing periods the school has had "in a long time."
That last quote caught my attention...
Bryce Thompson is pretty good.
Woodrow said:
Self on the recruiting effect of the NCAA news: "Recruiting is hard regardless. When you're recruiting at an elite level, you've got obstacles every year. ... It's something we certainly explain out and are very transparent with what's going on. ... I would say it has definitely had an impact."
Self says he also thinks KU could have one of the better early signing periods the school has had "in a long time."
That last quote caught my attention...
( Self said he thinks KU could have one of the better early signing periods the school has had in a long time ? - - - -hmmmmm - - -more then one more signing
I'm still wondering if Bryce is not calling the Coach's in and making them aware of his decision -- Roy into see him today? - -visits complete - - have a feeling decision coming really soon. - - Right now hearing KU leading - - ( Barely ) - - - Oklahoma RIGHT THERE - -and Okla State close behind Oklahoma - - UNC not much of a factor so I've read since their commit of the Davis kid -the fans think they are out. - - let's do this - -Come on Bryce , make us proud. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Jerry Meyer flipped to KU from OU...
Yep
boom
FarmerJayhawk said:
Jerry Meyer flipped to KU from OU...
Oh well hell - -like is said - - - BOOM - - big time flip - -big time CB. - - oh I'm feeling much better now. - - --nice way to wake up and read - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Now all I need to see is Evan Daniels put his pick in for Bryce and I'll be good to go - -Evan is usually pretty spot on, I myself rely on him the most
We have Slater - - -Evans - - - Meyer -- - Fisher - just looking for Evan. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Corey Evans had his Wednesday mailbag today and in it he said he thinks a commitment from Bryce is coming in the next couple of week. Said as of now he is "leaning" towards to Kansas.
Coach Self made the statement that this recruiting class could be one of the best he has had for awhile.
There is wording here that makes me wonder other then Bryce. - -Could be that there is STILL another. - -I know there had been discussion , among fans can't remember if it was from here or another site, where fans posted that this might be a year of surprise - - - maybe a recruit we really hadn't heard hardly anything about , saying that brings me to this.
Yes I feel a lot of us are starting to feel better with Bryce , but I too have felt we very well could still have another. - -We all know there has been talk about Mitch Red-shirting for the Reasons of needing him worse NEXT year more then this - -up front will be thinner.
All of the above brings me to this possibly. - - -We just offered Frank Anselem a 6'10 from Prolific Prep California - -Frank is in the Class of 2021 but like Javonte has the option of re-classifying to 2020 and is expected to do so he says. - - -So Frank stated about KU : - -
KU is a great School with lots of History and tradition , They are one of the most successful Colleges in America in both Academics & Basketball - - The fans are lit - - - It's Great. - - I can play the Four or Five , KU runs a lot of Ball screens , so I think I'll fit perfectly. - - Makes me wonder is Frank a surprise? - -with our thinner front Court next year he might be talking about? - -ranked currently # 60 - -Other Schools interested in him -Oregon - - just offered - -- also Arizona - - Arizona State - - USC - -yet you go to 247 and it Shows LSU with 2 CB'S - - - -but anyways - what ya think? - - Maybe another commit? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
jayballer73 said:
Coach Self made the statement that this recruiting class could be one of the best he has had for awhile.
There is wording here that makes me wonder other then Bryce. - -Could be that there is STILL another. - -I know there had been discussion , among fans can't remember if it was from here or another site, where fans posted that this might be a year of surprise - - - maybe a recruit we really hadn't heard hardly anything about , saying that brings me to this.
Yes I feel a lot of us are starting to feel better with Bryce , but I too have felt we very well could still have another. - -We all know there has been talk about Mitch Red-shirting for the Reasons of needing him worse NEXT year more then this - -up front will be thinner.
All of the above brings me to this possibly. - - -We just offered Frank Anselem a 6'10 from Prolific Prep California - -Frank is in the Class of 2021 but like Javonte has the option of re-classifying to 2020 and is expected to do so he says. - - -So Frank stated about KU : - -
KU is a great School with lots of History and tradition , They are one of the most successful Colleges in America in both Academics & Basketball - - The fans are lit - - - It's Great. - - I can play the Four or Five , KU runs a lot of Ball screens , so I think I'll fit perfectly. - - Makes me wonder is Frank a surprise? - -with our thinner front Court next year he might be talking about? - -ranked currently # 60 - -Other Schools interested in him -Oregon - - just offered - -- also Arizona - - Arizona State - - USC - -yet you go to 247 and it Shows LSU with 2 CB'S - - - -but anyways - what ya think? - - Maybe another commit? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I think Coach has a few tricks still left up his sleeve.... It's going to be interesting.
@jayballer73 I think Self was just talking about Bryce in that quote from yesterday. I am not even sure who else they are targeting that would commit early. ( that they are have a shot at)
I wish 247 updated there "targets" page so we had a idea of who they are actively recruiting.
Woodrow said:
I wish 247 updated there "targets" page so we had a idea of who they are actively recruiting.
Ahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Well Scott chasen FWIW just put his CB in for Bryce to KU - yte he is the KU insider so FWIW -- yet still just more sign that Bryce maybe leaning our way. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Evan had his "Ask Evan" questions. Doesn't appear he knows where Bryce is going yet. Thinks KU, UNC, OU but no favorite at the moment..
Woodrow said:
I wish 247 updated there "targets" page so we had a idea of who they are actively recruiting.
As far as I know it’s only Thompson and Robinson in 2020. I think getting Gethro put the kabash on Mading.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Woodrow said:
I wish 247 updated there "targets" page so we had a idea of who they are actively recruiting.
As far as I know it’s only Thompson and Robinson in 2020. I think getting Gethro put the kabash on Mading.
If he signs those two, that would be a more than solid four man class.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Woodrow said:
I wish 247 updated there "targets" page so we had a idea of who they are actively recruiting.
As far as I know it’s only Thompson and Robinson in 2020. I think getting Gethro put the kabash on Mading.
Robinson not coming here - -he is almost gift wrapped to Arkansas. - I was worried about them with him - -figured it would come down to us or them - think he is done
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Woodrow said:
I wish 247 updated there "targets" page so we had a idea of who they are actively recruiting.
As far as I know it’s only Thompson and Robinson in 2020. I think getting Gethro put the kabash on Mading.
Robinson not coming here - -he is almost gift wrapped to Arkansas. - I was worried about them with him - -figured it would come down to us or them - think he is done
Yes Robinson is all but done to Arkansas
247 now has Grant-Foster as the #2 Juco prospect, a 3 star composite for now
North Carolina feeling pretty feisty I guess after Roy's home visit with Bryce
Kyree Walker leaving Hillcrest and exploring pro options.
jayballer73 said:
North Carolina feeling pretty feisty I guess after Roy's home visit with Bryce
We good
FarmerJayhawk said:
jayballer73 said:
North Carolina feeling pretty feisty I guess after Roy's home visit with Bryce
We good
Hall of famer.
FarmerJayhawk said:
jayballer73 said:
North Carolina feeling pretty feisty I guess after Roy's home visit with Bryce
We good
Good I'm countin on you- - lol
From what I read on UNC board they are also very much in play for Kerwin Walton who just visited over the weekend. Could announce this week for UNC taking the last spot. However it also sounds like his Dad said they will check back with UNC in a few days in regards to what movement happens with Bryce or they want to take Kerwin's commitment. All this is moot if Bryce is already planning to be a Hawk but UNC is certainly portraying its two guys for one spot on their board.
BeddieKU23 said:
From what I read on UNC board they are also very much in play for Kerwin Walton who just visited over the weekend. Could announce this week for UNC taking the last spot. However it also sounds like his Dad said they will check back with UNC in a few days in regards to what movement happens with Bryce or they want to take Kerwin's commitment. All this is moot if Bryce is already planning to be a Hawk but UNC is certainly portraying its two guys for one spot on their board.
Almost like Bryce will be a Jayhawk.
Either Bryce is considering UNC a lot more then we think or the UNC board is selling a lot of souls and subscriptions to keep the interest..
BeddieKU23 said:
Either Bryce is considering UNC a lot more then we think or the UNC board is selling a lot of souls and subscriptions to keep the interest..
They are just trying to keep it interesting that's all
@BeddieKU23 yet they won't put in cb picks.
I can imagine if we had some reporters that were plugged into the action like they have on their site we'd be getting similar sunshine pumping as well. Of course there's always a chance UNC is in fact as much in this as KU or leading but your right why has their been radio silence about it then.. Can never tell with these recruitments anymore so I'm just waiting it out like everyone to see how it falls
BeddieKU23 said:
I can imagine if we had some reporters that were plugged into the action like they have on their site we'd be getting similar sunshine pumping as well. Of course there's always a chance UNC is in fact as much in this as KU or leading but your right why has their been radio silence about it then.. Can never tell with these recruitments anymore so I'm just waiting it out like everyone to see how it falls
that's interesting , cause I was reading the Carolina Insider - -not a lot of talk about Bryce there. - -They talking or focused more on Kerwin Walton - -Or Ziaire Williams for their remaining Scholi - sounds like which ever one commits 1st - - someone did say he fully expected Bryce to stay back here - - I think for the most part from what I have read - -they have seen the writing on the wall. - - -Wither KU -- OR OU. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Yep, I think they only take one of Walton, Thompson, and Williams.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Yep, I think they only take one of Walton, Thompson, and Williams.
the way it is sounding to me is - - they only have ONE to hand out anyways. -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
PS. The date is set, and I believe they’ve made the call. I’ll let Bryce and the family do the rest.
FarmerJayhawk said:
PS. The date is set, and I believe they’ve made the call. I’ll let Bryce and the family do the rest.
Confidence?
FarmerJayhawk said:
PS. The date is set, and I believe they’ve made the call. I’ll let Bryce and the family do the rest.
And the date is ?
There was a KU pick on rivals last night
BeddieKU23 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
PS. The date is set, and I believe they’ve made the call. I’ll let Bryce and the family do the rest.
Confidence?
Heard KU was likely the choice a week or so ago and haven’t heard anything since so now reason to doubt it now.
Not sure on the specific date. I do know he’ll sign early.
Apparently we are recruiting TJ Montgomery the PG for Aspire. He is tiiiiiny.
@FarmerJayhawk you heard anything about this?
Most of his highlights on youtube are old so I'm guessing he trailed off in his development
BShark said:
Apparently we are recruiting TJ Montgomery the PG for Aspire. He is tiiiiiny.
@FarmerJayhawk you heard anything about this?
¯_(ツ)_/¯. I’d think getting Thompson would end pursuit of most other guards.
Might be another exposure deal like the kid down in TX too. Seems Self is developing a nice relationship with Aspire.
I looked at his tape and I do wonder if Virginia Tech and Miami are truly recruiting him let alone Louisville and KU.
Thompson’s final four will be out in a few minutes. Going out on a really, really crazy limb and saying KU, OU, UNC, Okie Lite
FarmerJayhawk said:
Thompson’s final four will be out in a few minutes. Going out on a really, really crazy limb and saying KU, OU, UNC, Okie Lite
lol
It has been released and its Kansas Oklahoma Oklahoma state and North Carolina
mercy what a whole lot of Nothing - -we've known that for since - the cows came home
If we get Thompson I can live with that recruiting class.
Puff Johnson trending UNC’s way. If he commits there it effectively ends their pursuit of Bryce.
I saw where Texas Tech got a top 50 kid this morning from Duncanville, Texas.
Texas Tech is also getting CB'S for the # 27 ranked player in Namari Burnett - -out of Chicago Illinois 6'3 combo guard the # 5 combo in the Nation - - Chris Beard ain't playin - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Bryce Thompson is going to take a un official Visit to Oklahoma state for a basketball game
@JAYHAWKFAN214 boo!
@JAYHAWKFAN214 who are they playing? Hopefully a small crowd!
Oral Roberts, wed
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@JAYHAWKFAN214 who are they playing? Hopefully a small crowd!
Does Historic Gallagher-Iba ever have big crowds other than for KU?
Lol
Maybe snoop dog?
Heard him doing play by for the lakers
mercy this whole recruiting process with Bryce is becoming a drawn out drama publicity under the lights thing - -Holy Crap
@FarmerJayhawk any reason to be concerned about Bryce taking a last minute visit with Cade to Okie St? Doesn’t seem good to me...
Woodrow said:
@FarmerJayhawk any reason to be concerned about Bryce taking a last minute visit with Cade to Okie St? Doesn’t seem good to me...
exactly what I was thinking - - with the strong possibility of Cunningham to Okie St -NOW all of a sudden Bryce is going to take an un-official ? -don't like the looks - he has already had his official - - why would there be any reason to take ANOTHER visit? - -- unless he is still having doubts - -you put Cunningham at Okie State - -KU and this whole NCAA thing with possible penalities - there is no reason for him to go back. -- Every one thinking this was a KU/OU thing now - -and BAM surprise. - -I sure wouldn't count on Bryce at this point - -almost like someone is his camp looking for a reason for Bryce NOT to come here. - - watch.
Woodrow said:
@FarmerJayhawk any reason to be concerned about Bryce taking a last minute visit with Cade to Okie St? Doesn’t seem good to me...
I’m not that worried. Think Okie Lite is bringing up the rear
FarmerJayhawk said:
Woodrow said:
@FarmerJayhawk any reason to be concerned about Bryce taking a last minute visit with Cade to Okie St? Doesn’t seem good to me...
I’m not that worried. Think Okie Lite is bringing up the rear
Isn't that what they always do?
And he will visit Oklahoma before making his decision next Tuesday
Bryce is announcing next Tuesday at 10am. He will visit OU tonight for a game and OSU tomorrow for a game.
So look like NC is out - - -Puff Johnson becoming a big trend with them - -- He making last minute visit to Okla-state - - -AND Okla - - yet NOT KU - -that doesn't paint a nice picture to me
jayballer73 said:
So look like NC is out - - -Puff Johnson becoming a big trend with them - -- He making last minute visit to Okla-state - - -AND Okla - - yet NOT KU - -that doesn't paint a nice picture to me
He doesn't need to visit Kansas He knows what Kansas is about
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
jayballer73 said:
So look like NC is out - - -Puff Johnson becoming a big trend with them - -- He making last minute visit to Okla-state - - -AND Okla - - yet NOT KU - -that doesn't paint a nice picture to me
He doesn't need to visit Kansas He knows what Kansas is about
As much as he has visited Oklahoma -- he SHOULD know what they are about
So he is announcing and knows where he is going but is still taking a couple visits. Hopefully thanks for recruiting me courtesy visits. :grinning_face:
BShark said:
So he is announcing and knows where he is going but is still taking a couple visits. Hopefully thanks for recruiting me courtesy visits. :grinning_face:
I wouldn’t turn down free tickets and VIP treatment either 😂
Also, Cade is going to Okie Lite. Got some bad info a few weeks ago.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Also, Cade is going to Okie Lite. Got some bad info a few weeks ago.
Playa got played. #TrustSlater
BShark said:
So he is announcing and knows where he is going but is still taking a couple visits. Hopefully thanks for recruiting me courtesy visits. :grinning_face:
ya makes sense huh?- -the kid knows a week in advance where he is going. - - But yet still takes visits? - -makes sense - -if you know your NOT going to that School - -ya -- talk about a playa getting played - - NEXT - - or is there a NEXT ? - - Cunningham going to Okie State - - - is NOT GOOD for KU.
In some regard - -different things - -an accumulation of things I'd say - - I'm starting to see things shift some - -the balance of power becoming more deverisified with us. - -This NCAA thing has just kicked us right in the N - - - in so many ways - - mainly with our recruiting - yet even before this came up , started seeing the other schools in the Conference starting to get some more elite players - - used to be ALL KU- - these past few years - KU has regressed in recruiting - - power spreading out. - - - I think the years of KU dominance is over
Just multiple things taking place. - -Better Coaching throughout the league - - -KU and this fricken NCAA thing - -The looming NBA rule coming. - - Having Coach's on the staff that are growing stale - - - is Snacks doing anything worth while - or is he just smoking the shit and getting paid still?
Were swinging and missing on countless recruits - - why is that? - I think that's another reason Coach has changed his approach on recruits. - -you can laugh - - doubt whatever - but if you sit back look at the broad picture - -you can see it. - -I think we JUST STRUCK OUT again on another recruit - -Casey left standing at the plate - Makes ZERO sense - -if your still in the hunt, for a recruit who knows where he is going to visit other schools again but yet - no visit here - - not buying this crap about well he knows all he needs about KU - - holy crap as many un-officals he has made to Oklahoma being in state - he for sure knows all he needs to know about them too - -I' call BS on that theory - again - - -NEXT.
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Also, Cade is going to Okie Lite. Got some bad info a few weeks ago.
Playa got played. #TrustSlater
Yuuup. This was from a UNC person so that was weird. But he should sign early too.
jayballer73 said:
BShark said:
So he is announcing and knows where he is going but is still taking a couple visits. Hopefully thanks for recruiting me courtesy visits. :grinning_face:
ya makes sense huh?- -the kid knows a week in advance where he is going. - - But yet still takes visits? - -makes sense - -if you know your NOT going to that School - -ya -- talk about a playa getting played - - NEXT - - or is there a NEXT ? - - Cunningham going to Okie State - - - is NOT GOOD for KU.
In some regard - -different things - -an accumulation of things I'd say - - I'm starting to see things shift some - -the balance of power becoming more deverisified with us. - -This NCAA thing has just kicked us right in the N - - - in so many ways - - mainly with our recruiting - yet even before this came up , started seeing the other schools in the Conference starting to get some more elite players - - used to be ALL KU- - these past few years - KU has regressed in recruiting - - power spreading out. - - - I think the years of KU dominance is over
Just multiple things taking place. - -Better Coaching throughout the league - - -KU and this fricken NCAA thing - -The looming NBA rule coming. - - Having Coach's on the staff that are growing stale - - - is Snacks doing anything worth while - or is he just smoking the shit and getting paid still?
Were swinging and missing on countless recruits - - why is that? - I think that's another reason Coach has changed his approach on recruits. - -you can laugh - - doubt whatever - but if you sit back look at the broad picture - -you can see it. - -I think we JUST STRUCK OUT again on another recruit - -Casey left standing at the plate - Makes ZERO sense - -if your still in the hunt, for a recruit who knows where he is going to visit other schools again but yet - no visit here - - not buying this crap about well he knows all he needs about KU - - holy crap as many un-officals he has made to Oklahoma being in state - he for sure knows all he needs to know about them too - -I' call BS on that theory - again - - -NEXT.
I think we've done fine in recruiting up until the NCAA garbage started. The 2018 class was legit: McCormack, Silvio (until he reclassified), Grimes, Dotson. That's an elite group. The 2017 group was solid, just Billy didn't pan out. 2016 group had Josh, Doke, and Lightfoot. Another really good group. We'll get back to our winning ways on the trail once this blows over.
So far no change in picks on either rivals or 247 for us to be worried. There was a KU pick last night on rivals for what it’s worth.
Opinion: He does live in Oklahoma so it’s not surprising or concerning that he’s visiting OU and OSU. How many times did Gethro visit Louisville and we still snagged him? Also, he can’t go to New York and watch KU tonight for an unofficial visit.
rockchalkwyo said:
So far no change in picks on either rivals or 247 for us to be worried. There was a KU pick last night on rivals for what it’s worth.
Opinion: He does live in Oklahoma so it’s not surprising or concerning that he’s visiting OU and OSU. How many times did Gethro visit Louisville and we still snagged him? Also, he can’t go to New York and watch KU tonight for an unofficial visit.
We are up to 80%
Instead of Bryce Thompson Visiting Norman they are gonna do a in house visit instead
Don’t wanna see empty gym. Jk
Well we picked up 3 CB'S today for Bryce - - 80 % KU - - 20 % OU - -we wee at 71-29 - - must get 3 % for a vote - -makes sense - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Cade Cunningham just popped for Okie St
Ku is up 82% for Bryce Thompson
Woodrow said:
Cade Cunningham just popped for Okie St
Does that make Thompson more likely choose Ok St??
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Woodrow said:
Cade Cunningham just popped for Okie St
Does that make Thompson more likely choose Ok St??
No
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Woodrow said:
Cade Cunningham just popped for Okie St
Does that make Thompson more likely choose Ok St??
They are taking a unofficial visit for a game tonight together ...
Woodrow said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Woodrow said:
Cade Cunningham just popped for Okie St
Does that make Thompson more likely choose Ok St??
They are taking a unofficial visit for a game tonight together ...
been told that has changed -- Thompson by himself
jayballer73 said:
Woodrow said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Woodrow said:
Cade Cunningham just popped for Okie St
Does that make Thompson more likely choose Ok St??
They are taking a unofficial visit for a game tonight together ...
been told that has changed -- Thompson by himself
HOW SO
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
jayballer73 said:
Woodrow said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Woodrow said:
Cade Cunningham just popped for Okie St
Does that make Thompson more likely choose Ok St??
They are taking a unofficial visit for a game tonight together ...
been told that has changed -- Thompson by himself
HOW SO
just read where he was not going to be with Cunningham
jayballer73 said:
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
jayballer73 said:
Woodrow said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Woodrow said:
Cade Cunningham just popped for Okie St
Does that make Thompson more likely choose Ok St??
They are taking a unofficial visit for a game tonight together ...
been told that has changed -- Thompson by himself
HOW SO
just read where he was not going to be with Cunningham
Oh
Curious . - -Am I the only one with the way things re , is there anyone else that is feeling un-comfortable/queasy - -even with reading and seeing al the so call experts picks and articles about how they feel about Bryce committing to KU - -we lead huge with the CB , so why don't I feel that confident about Bryce? - feel about as nervous as I ever have.
Is there anyone else that kinda feels the same ?Not very confident - -even though -the so called experts off Rivals and 247 show us solid for him? - -Cunningham committing to OSU the night before Bryce visits just is not a good read for me - - - -Bryce tweeting out - -this changes things - & them being buds - - now that Cunningham has committed to OSU - -Bryce coming in tonight, I could see OSU & Cunningham trying to just hit it out of the pak tonight - - Cunningham really working him and getting him to come play with him - - stay in his home state - -not sure about you -but I'm not THAT CONFIDENT - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
jayballer73 said:
Curious . - -Am I the only one with the way things re , is there anyone else that is feeling un-comfortable/queasy - -even with reading and seeing al the so call experts picks and articles about how they feel about Bryce committing to KU - -we lead huge with the CB , so why don't I feel that confident about Bryce? - feel about as nervous as I ever have.
Is there anyone else that kinda feels the same ?Not very confident - -even though -the so called experts off Rivals and 247 show us solid for him? - -Cunningham committing to OSU the night before Bryce visits just is not a good read for me - - - -Bryce tweeting out - -this changes things - & them being buds - - now that Cunningham has committed to OSU - -Bryce coming in tonight, I could see OSU & Cunningham trying to just hit it out of the pak tonight - - Cunningham really working him and getting him to come play with him - - stay in his home state - -not sure about you -but I'm not THAT CONFIDENT - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
The Cunningham committed to osu has no Effect on Bryce his is his own man
there shouldn't be much confidence until he announces and signs. However I do think he's made his choice already and this is him enjoying the process for one more week. If he picks KU its great. If he doesn't, well we won't be surprised given the mud we are in. I know I'm numb to losing recruits like this at this point.
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
jayballer73 said:
Curious . - -Am I the only one with the way things re , is there anyone else that is feeling un-comfortable/queasy - -even with reading and seeing al the so call experts picks and articles about how they feel about Bryce committing to KU - -we lead huge with the CB , so why don't I feel that confident about Bryce? - feel about as nervous as I ever have.
Is there anyone else that kinda feels the same ?Not very confident - -even though -the so called experts off Rivals and 247 show us solid for him? - -Cunningham committing to OSU the night before Bryce visits just is not a good read for me - - - -Bryce tweeting out - -this changes things - & them being buds - - now that Cunningham has committed to OSU - -Bryce coming in tonight, I could see OSU & Cunningham trying to just hit it out of the pak tonight - - Cunningham really working him and getting him to come play with him - - stay in his home state - -not sure about you -but I'm not THAT CONFIDENT - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
The Cunningham committed to osu has no Effect on Bryce his is his own man
only ONE teeny weeny little itsy bitsy problem with that logic - -him and Cunningham are really good friends - -has a huge effect - - -or very easily can have. - -He goes to Okie State tonight Cunninham and him hanging out during his visit - -he be ALL up in his ear talking all smack talking about how and what they could do as a pair there - -if he would go there Okie State have an awesome recruiting class -- they got commit for another top 30 player I believe read it today just can't remember his name- -
BeddieKU23 said:
there shouldn't be much confidence until he announces and signs. However I do think he's made his choice already and this is him enjoying the process for one more week. If he picks KU its great. If he doesn't, well we won't be surprised given the mud we are in. I know I'm numb to losing recruits like this at this point.
that makes two of us. - - All I can think about is a previous recruitment and we looked rock solid. - - Announcement day rolls around announcing on the TV. - - that day Ayton announces ARIZONA for craps sake. - -they wasn't even considered a contender -- we were a 100 % CB - -now we all know what and how that came about - - BUT still makes me leary and uneasy when it's like this anymore. - -just can't put a lot of faith in any CB or even experts a lot of times. - -like you say come next Tuesday and he announces with us - - -GREAT until then - - very un-easy
We've seen a lot of recruitments we thought we were in the drivers seat or had the momentum turn on us. This one doesn't seem to be any different although I'm hoping my confidence in a few people in this board and the other have the right information. I think Bryce knew Cade was going to Ok Lite before it went down. I also think UNC moved to get Johnson knowing they weren't his choice either. I think KU has always led despite all that has happened. Hope I'm right come next week.
BeddieKU23 said:
We've seen a lot of recruitments we thought we were in the drivers seat or had the momentum turn on us. This one doesn't seem to be any different although I'm hoping my confidence in a few people in this board and the other have the right information. I think Bryce knew Cade was going to Ok Lite before it went down. I also think UNC moved to get Johnson knowing they weren't his choice either. I think KU has always led despite all that has happened. Hope I'm right come next week.
Hope so too. -- -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Going to be interesting to see if we see any kind of movement - -changing of predictions from the so called experts after Bryce's visit last night to Okie State. - -Guess they had the students all chanting his name last night at the game - - - So far haven't seen any change yet - -see how it goes tomorrow and over the weekend
@jayballer73 I’m sure it wasn’t that impressive for him to watch a 5 point win over Oral Roberts with a crowd of 7,319 (about half of full capacity). Relax buddy
Big fish, mud puddle?
rockchalkwyo said:
@jayballer73 I’m sure it wasn’t that impressive for him to watch a 5 point win over Oral Roberts with a crowd of 7,319 (about half of full capacity). Relax buddy
oh mercy , I hadn't seen anything on that - -really hadn't looked to hard. - -But ya - -that's a sorry crowd and to win by 5 ? wow
I watched the end of it.
OU insider with his insite on Bryce
I’m leaning OU and it’s not a “homer” pick. Long ways to go until Tuesday and lots can happen between now and then. I have spoken to several people that feel strongly about OU. Another that said he would pick OU and gave reasons why, but prefaced it by saying it’s close and could change a lot
BeddieKU23 said:
OU insider with his insite on Bryce
I’m leaning OU and it’s not a “homer” pick. Long ways to go until Tuesday and lots can happen between now and then. I have spoken to several people that feel strongly about OU. Another that said he would pick OU and gave reasons why, but prefaced it by saying it’s close and could change a lot
And here we go - - -AGAIN
I know it's suppose to be on CBS sports HQ - -is that a site on the innernet - where we can follow or what - -live TV what?
jayballer73 said:
I know it's suppose to be on CBS sports HQ - -is that a site on the innernet - where we can follow or what - -live TV what?
It is part of the CBS network and u can follow them on Twitter
jayballer73 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
OU insider with his insite on Bryce
I’m leaning OU and it’s not a “homer” pick. Long ways to go until Tuesday and lots can happen between now and then. I have spoken to several people that feel strongly about OU. Another that said he would pick OU and gave reasons why, but prefaced it by saying it’s close and could change a lot
And here we go - - -AGAIN
I wanna believe anything AOU insider says
I don't know STILL no kind of any movement towards OU in any change of CB'S or rivals - you would think that these so Called experts that this is all they do - -interview follow and what have ya with these guys - -you would think they had SOME KIND of inkling as to what the kid was going to do
@jayballer73 “Words are wind.” Game of Thrones quote of the day. We shall see what actually happens soon.
dylans said:
@jayballer73 “Words are wind.” Game of Thrones quote of the day. We shall see what actually happens soon.
Don't be surprised if it's ❤💙
We good
FarmerJayhawk said:
We good
Not a doubt, just relaying what "other" info is out there circulating
FarmerJayhawk said:
We good
Anything new/confirmed or working off the same info?
BeddieKU23 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
We good
Not a doubt, just relaying what "other" info is out there circulating
Oh buddy putting all my KU trust in you on this one buddy - -I will be so glad when this is done lol
Bryce Thompsonand and family is attending tonight's basketball game at Allen fieldhouse before making a decision on Tuesday
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
Bryce Thompsonand and family is attending tonight's basketball game at Allen fieldhouse before making a decision on Tuesday
Does this make you feel better @jayballer73 ?
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
We good
Anything new/confirmed or working off the same info?
No updates. Which is good.
@FarmerJayhawk Ryan is very confident over on the phog so I am wondering if it's done.
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
Bryce Thompson and family is attending tonight's basketball game at Allen fieldhouse before making a decision on Tuesday
Well , Well , Well - -don't know about you but THIS makes me feel better. get this fieldhouse rockin - -LET Bryce see it - - - ONE MORE TIME - - SEE IT - - FEEL IT - - BE IT
I just feel we getting that last visit in, the fieldhouse live action - -the connection with family his dad has with Coach Self - -the atmosphere - -I feel better
I look at it this way - -If Bryce was sold on staying in state - -if Bryce was sold on playing with Cunningham & Okie State - - or Playing with that mess in Oklahoma - -they wouldn't bother of come for a game. - - -with this the weekend before his decision - I just - - - feel - -better. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
rockchalkwyo said:
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
Bryce Thompsonand and family is attending tonight's basketball game at Allen fieldhouse before making a decision on Tuesday
Does this make you feel better @jayballer73 ?
why yes - - yes it does - -check my post lol
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
We good
Anything new/confirmed or working off the same info?
No updates. Which is good.
Farmer ? - - Bryce - - Family - - KU -- Fieldhouse tonight - - Last Visit before Announcement - - - = - - -= - - --EQUALS - - - KU?
BShark said:
@FarmerJayhawk Ryan is very confident over on the phog so I am wondering if it's done.
Dam how did I miss that -- I was just there -- VIP ?
Bill self will do A in home visit with Bryce Thompson Sunday before the make his decision Tuesday
I kind of take the in home as a bad sign. If it was a fine deal I don’t think Self would be going there...
Doesn’t make much sense to me.
Woodrow said:
I kind of take the in home as a bad sign. If it was a fine deal I don’t think Self would be going there...
Doesn’t make much sense to me.
I don't see it As a bad sign
Woodrow said:
I kind of take the in home as a bad sign. If it was a fine deal I don’t think Self would be going there...
Doesn’t make much sense to me.
Eh, KU was the last in home for Dotson when he gave his commitment to the staff. I'm not reading a ton into it either way.
OU Insider still goin with the home team. Sure hope hes full of Bologna
Yes, I have Thompson CB'd to OU, but it's not a homer pick. There are several, that I have spoken with, that tell me the Sooners move to go visit Bryce on Tuesday, instead of him taking an unofficial, was the best move the Lon Kruger and the OU staff could have done. I am told the two sides met for over an hour and actually was closer to two hours. One source told me that both of Thompson's parents are very vocal about where they want Bryce to go and that is to OU. Thing is, they are also allowing him to be the one to make the decision and aren't pushing him one way or the other, according to various sources.
As far as the Kansas deal goes? Well, OU is in a dog fight and OSU also has made a run since they landed five-star combo guard Cade Cunningham in the last few days. Obviously, everyone saw where Thompson tweeted out that Cunningham's commitment changes things, but the question remains of how much? I ask that because everyone knew Cunningham was going to Oklahoma State for the last several months. The Cowboys hired his older brother, Keith, this off-season and from that point on it seemed like Ostate was almost a given for Cunningham.
So, why am I picking the Sooners? Well, OU has had more than Bryce's parents in his ear. The Sooners have had Trae Young, Blake Griffin and Buddy Hield all talk with him on numerous occasions. All have explained why Lon Kruger's system is the best for him and his skill-set. The Sooners also have had the father of Tray Young, Rayford Young, speaking to Bryce and his father, Rod, about how much he liked their time at OU and how well Kruger used Trae.
Lastly, coaches and players that have no connection to Oklahoma have been pushing the Sooners and Lon Kruger as well. I am not naming names, but several NBA players and college basketball coaches have let him know that they think playing under Lon is the best spot.
All in all, I think it's a coin-flip. I spoke to a source very close to Thompson this morning and was told, "I honestly have an idea, but would be lying if I said I knew for sure. I can tell you OU is close and in the top two, but it's not a for sure thing with any school cause I don't think he really knows."
@BeddieKU23 Conflicts with what I've heard about Bryce's dad but thanks for posting.
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We want Thompson!
I'm waiting for playahs pick them we will know.
BShark said:
I'm waiting for playahs pick them we will know.
We good
Two top 50 guards to the SEC, Ole Miss and Arkansas. What they paying to get these guys to go there??
Moody, Ku did show some interest but nothing serious.
Look like it's down to 2KU and Oklahoma state both are doing in house visits with Bryce Thompson Before he makes his decision Tuesday
@JAYHAWKFAN214 I thought you said it was KU?
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@JAYHAWKFAN214 I thought you said it was KU?
Kansas is Also as well Oaklahoma state
@JAYHAWKFAN214 that's not good news!
Woodrow said:
I kind of take the in home as a bad sign. If it was a fine deal I don’t think Self would be going there...
Doesn’t make much sense to me.
kinda gets me to wondering also - -If he is committed to KU - -then no reason for Bill to go for in home - - - -doesn't sound good - -might be a last minute effort - - it Could be that this NCAA is going to be the determining factor from keeping him coming here - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Hmmmm, if it's supposedly down between us and Oklahoma St -Wonder why KU & Oklahoma St are the one's having last minute in home visit's BUT no Oklahoma? -- leads me to believe even more what Beddie posted from the OU insider? - -Why? -- quite possibly they know that they have got his commitment - - don't need any last in home visit - - OR could be BRYCE called KU & Okie St - -in to inform them that he is committing to OU and thanking them for recruiting him. - -Until he officially commits to us -- I'm going to be pestimistic on this - - just don't feel comfortable on this at all. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Ou strategically wanted early so they did early last week. Whether the in homes mean anything I dont know.
So question . - - I know Bshark is convinced about Javonte Brown Fergurson committing to Texas A & M. - -So I have to go with what he says basically cause I haven't heard anything more about the KU staff being in contact with him or in home visits or anything - -so I can only go with he says. for the time being
Read where Javonte is down to KU - - Texas A & M - -& Conn - -going to announce his decision on Wednsday at 8:00 Eastern time - -still just curious - - did we just wave the white flag not trying to get him here OR is this one of those cases like some people talked about that we would hear NOTHING about or very limited about an end up being a surprise commitment? - -Time will tell I guess has anyone else heard ANYTHING at all lately about Javonte ? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer73 KU isn't recruiting him anymore.
@jayballer73 had no shot and moved on.
Well doesn't mean nothing really BUT - -I still haven't seen any kind of change as far as the so called experts making changes in their predictions on Bryce.
Just dunno , going be a long couple of days. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
UConn for B-F
FarmerJayhawk said:
UConn for B-F
who is B-F
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
UConn for B-F
who is B-F
It is javonte Brown Ferguson
Playa puts in his pick.. for Adam Miller to Illinois.
Would be the 2nd Top 50ish guard joining Curbelo. Underwood hasn't done squat there but is getting a bit lucky this cycle
Cyclones just picked up a good one. 7 footer Xavier Foster. 4* top 60 kid.
Woodrow said:
Cyclones just picked up a good one. 7 footer Xavier Foster. 4* top 60 kid.
Good coup for them to get him from the Hoks.
Some OSU smoke for Bryce...
Seems like every fan base thinks they get him except UNC...
BShark said:
Some OSU smoke for Bryce...
Seems like every fan base thinks they get him except UNC...
I just do not have a good feeling about this. Hope I am wrong as we need a top flight recruit to commit to kind of change the narrative with the FBI stuff.
BShark said:
Some OSU smoke for Bryce...
Seems like every fan base thinks they get him except UNC...
I think there is fire with Okie State.- -They really rollin - -I just feel we are cooked -- ANOTHER miss - -haven't felt good about this for awhile
OU guy still not wavering that it's OU either.
I'm still waiting for Playah's (Evan Daniels) CB
KU until I hear otherwise.
FarmerJayhawk said:
KU until I hear otherwise.
Honestly remarkable that there hasn't just been a full leak/Playah pick/247 setting a favorite when we are now under 24 hours out from the announcement.
Have been unable to find the information from the pokes. Not on 247 board to my knowledge
Edit: One poster on another OSU board claiming he got good news but is unwilling to share anything else. Others claiming he was right about Cade going to them.
If he does commit to OSU will that reignite anything with KK Robinson?
@BeddieKU23 Tbf literally everyone had Cade to OSU. If that is their only track record, shrug.
@rockchalkwyo KK will be a hog.
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Tbf literally everyone had Cade to OSU. If that is their only track record, shrug.
@rockchalkwyo KK will be a hog.
Without reading 15 pages it would appear many thought he was UK bound after Playa etc starting saying that was likely. Guess that person stuck with OSU all along?
I still can't figure out how Cade going there helps Bryce be the "man". Cade is a combo guard, Likele is their current PG. They just signed a Top 100 guard in Rondel Walker. They have two other guards on the roster in Chris Harris & Watson after this year. Maybe I'm missing something here.
His parents.
Evan Daniels says Bryce's desire to play at a Basketball 1st School favors KU - -BUT the NOA could very well dampen their chances.
Adam Miller possibly keeping his options open. Wouldn't end up at KU anyway, I just found it interesting.
BShark said:
Adam Miller possibly keeping his options open. Wouldn't end up at KU anyway, I just found it interesting.
Hes still likely to end up at Illinois
Read article from Tulsa talking about 3 ut of their 4 so called experts pick Bryce to KU. - -the 4th says his gut is telling him KU but picking Okie State anyways.
Talking about bond the family has to KU & NOA or not that bond think will just prove to be to strong with Hall of fame coach. Said easier to say yes playing with what they Called those erie Echo's and prevelant program
A KU CB pick came in tonight on 247 by Kevin Flaherty. No clue who he is but he must know something.
rockchalkwyo said:
A KU CB pick came in tonight on 247 by Kevin Flaherty. No clue who he is but he must know something.
National 24/7 hoops writer. KU grad.
BShark said:
rockchalkwyo said:
A KU CB pick came in tonight on 247 by Kevin Flaherty. No clue who he is but he must know something.
National 24/7 hoops writer. KU grad.
If you don't know who the guy that put the crystal ball pick in you can follow him on Twitter
Is there anyway to follow Bryce's announcement tomorrow? - -live stream? I know it's on CBS - something but just curious?- - Probably regret following if we can lol. - - ROCK CHALK ALLD AY LONG BAY
jayballer73 said:
Is there anyway to follow Bryce's announcement tomorrow? - -live stream? I know it's on CBS - something but just curious?- - Probably regret following if we can lol. - - ROCK CHALK ALLD AY LONG BAY
You can follow Ever Recruiting people
Dam another HUGE we missed on - - Robinson Earl - - Villanova - - -24 points & 13 Rebounds - - DAM NOA
jayballer73 said:
Dam another HUGE we missed on - - Robinson Earl - - Villanova - - -24 points & 13 Rebounds - - DAM NOA
Can we stop saying we missed on him he was never coming to Kansas
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
jayballer73 said:
Dam another HUGE we missed on - - Robinson Earl - - Villanova - - -24 points & 13 Rebounds - - DAM NOA
Can we stop saying we missed on him he was never coming to Kansas
umm NO we can't. You go ahead and knock yourself out and believe what the hell you want. - -here let me say it again - - ANOTHER HUGE MISS - best advice is don't look if you don't wanna believe we didn't have a chance - ANOTHER HUGE MISS. . ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Well just read from the Phog, you probably saw /read this already - - BUT Daniel Cunningham from the Rock Chalk Blog & Co Host from the pod cast stated this:
Saying that he had spent the day talking to folks and trying to get additional reads on the situation and it all comes back to Bryce Thompson picking Kansas Tomorrow morning. - - Saying while I would never call any recruitment 100% in the bag BUT it's about as close as it can get. - -- -Then we get yet ANOHER CB tonight for Bryce - - we shall see. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
jayballer73 said:
Well just read from the Phog, you probably saw /read this already - - BUT Daniel Cunningham from the Rock Chalk Blog & Co Host from the pod cast stated this:
Saying that he had spent the day talking to folks and trying to get additional reads on the situation and it all comes back to Bryce Thompson picking Kansas Tomorrow morning. - - Saying while I would never call any recruitment 100% in the bag BUT it's about as close as it can get. - -- -Then we get yet ANOHER CB tonight for Bryce - - we shall see. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Not going to take a blowtorch to Daniel... but he doesn’t know shat
FarmerJayhawk said:
jayballer73 said:
Well just read from the Phog, you probably saw /read this already - - BUT Daniel Cunningham from the Rock Chalk Blog & Co Host from the pod cast stated this:
Saying that he had spent the day talking to folks and trying to get additional reads on the situation and it all comes back to Bryce Thompson picking Kansas Tomorrow morning. - - Saying while I would never call any recruitment 100% in the bag BUT it's about as close as it can get. - -- -Then we get yet ANOHER CB tonight for Bryce - - we shall see. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Not going to take a blowtorch to Daniel... but he doesn’t know shat
He does know his stuff
I’ll say this. If it’s not KU tomorrow I’ll be Ayton stunned
@FarmerJayhawk too soon
My bad fam. Bad analogy, point stands 😂
Ouinsider just put a pick in for Bryce Thompson to ku
We are at 100% for Bryce Thompson
I will say that the big kid that picked Iowa St. yesterday had 100% CB for Iowa... FWIW
Woodrow said:
I will say that the big kid that picked Iowa St. yesterday had 100% CB for Iowa... FWIW
No one changed their picks at all leading up to it for some reason. Reading cyclonefanatic (name of their best board with their top insiders) scuttlebutt I knew he was going to be a clone.
@BeddieKU23 Does make me nervous that it might be OSU. We find out for sure in a little over an hour...
can we follow a stream for this anywhere?
The coaches have been informed.
just some FYI - -you guys probably already know but. - -If you go to 247 sports . com - -Evan Daniels has an article about Bryce announcing today - - -and has a link for stream so you can follow the announcement. - - Check it out
If you have the CBS Sports App you can get it as well.
KU woo
YES SIR!
biggest recruiting win in many years!
BILLY EUGENE SELF DOES IT AGAIN
BShark said:
BILLY EUGENE SELF DOES IT AGAIN
he's a keeper
Imagine you are KSU. You sign your greatest ever recruiting class under Bruce. It includes a player KU passed on. KU went after a JUCO and a project big. KU's class is still better.
KU class went from ranked 51st in the Nation to - - - - # 11 in the Nation with the commit of BRYCE
jayballer73 said:
KU class went from ranked 51st in the Nation to - - - - # 11 in the Nation with the commit of BRYCE
Awesome! It should get better too. Foster started as a 3 star 0.9000 and a few weeks ago went to 0.9100. Not a huge increase by any means but shows potential to keep increasing.
So , what's next now? - -Don't for early period ? - -Done for the year ? - - is there anyone else that we might be in on for 2020 ? - Transfer ? - -grad transfer ? - -anyone hear ?
Dotson - - Gone - - -Doke -- Gone- - - -Moss -- gone ? - - and I'm going to say De-sousa - -gone NBA or no NBA - - - -so that's 4 - -who's next ? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Hasn't Enaruna shown up on some draft boards?
Did Bryce actually sign on the dotted line?
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Did Bryce actually sign on the dotted line?
He is expected to. Tomorrow is the start of the signing period. All three KU commits are going to sign.
Texas Tech has landed 5* Nimari Burnett. There will be a influx of talent next year in the Big 12.
Woodrow said:
Texas Tech has landed 5* Nimari Burnett. There will be a influx of talent next year in the Big 12.
Noticeable recruiting uptick at Tech now that Beard is there.
COHawk said:
Hasn't Enaruna shown up on some draft boards?
2nd round next year but that's going to change if he continues to have a big role and produce.
BShark said:
Woodrow said:
Texas Tech has landed 5* Nimari Burnett. There will be a influx of talent next year in the Big 12.
Noticeable recruiting uptick at Tech now that Beard is there.
Making the finals helps too
At this point Silvio should be back but we'll see how the season plays out.
Agbaji is definitely trending where he would be wise to at least test the waters.
I don't see a prospect KU could land until the spring mahem. If everyone returns but Dotson Self would have 12 bodies. If he loses 1 of Silvio/Agbaji then I think he targets one more
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
Woodrow said:
Texas Tech has landed 5* Nimari Burnett. There will be a influx of talent next year in the Big 12.
Noticeable recruiting uptick at Tech now that Beard is there.
Making the finals helps too
Absolutely. Recruits are taking notice of his coaching acumen. I'd like to see them play good teams in the noncon now.
Beard was definitely paying attention under Knight, for sure. Wasn't that his mentor, Bobby Knight? All of of those switches and that D.
I read this from a poster off the phog. - -He had this for NEXT year's line up. - -Said he would like to see - Can't say I really disagree - - think it looks pretty goo to me. - -It went like this :
Pg : - - -Garrett/ Harris
Sg :- - - Thompson / Braun
Sf :- - - Agbaji ? Grant Foster
Pf :- - - Enaruna ? Wilson
C :- - - McCormack / Lightfoot
I could live with that. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
rockchalkwyo said:
Awesome! It should get better too. Foster started as a 3 star 0.9000 and a few weeks ago went to 0.9100. Not a huge increase by any means but shows potential to keep increasing.
I just noticed that Foster’s score increased again to 0.9250. Good for him. Did Gethro’s drop? Not that it matters really.
rockchalkwyo said:
rockchalkwyo said:
Awesome! It should get better too. Foster started as a 3 star 0.9000 and a few weeks ago went to 0.9100. Not a huge increase by any means but shows potential to keep increasing.
I just noticed that Foster’s score increased again to 0.9250. Good for him. Did Gethro’s drop? Not that it matters really.
It probably did. Gethro is the lowest rated big we've signed since 2012. Thankfully he will not really be needed next year and he can put on muscle.
Marco said:
Beard was definitely paying attention under Knight, for sure. Wasn't that his mentor, Bobby Knight? All of of those switches and that D.
Shot fake! Knight’s 2 favorite words.
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@FarmerJayhawk is KU even recruiting him?
We have an open scholarship? No, Harris got it
Crimsonorblue22 said:
We have an open scholarship? No, Harris got it
We do actually. We were full then McBride quit.
Not sure where this even came from. - -if you look on his updated list of Schools off 247 Ku is not even listed
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@FarmerJayhawk is KU even recruiting him?
They’ll check in but I believe he’s going pro. Jalen Wilson’s injury might change their calculus a bit from earlier. We only have 9 bodies now so I’d take a flier.
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Got a response on Walker. Likely Arkansas. No team overseas really bit and they’re definitely not interested in signing him mid-season. Doesn’t mean he’ll play college ball but can’t see KU making much of a play here unless we just absolutely need a guy.
@FarmerJayhawk Can he shoot? If so KU needs a guy if the 4-1 is going to be a staple. This team is short handed in the guard position. IMHO
Here’s a response to a question from good ol’ Cory Evans about what’s going on with Walker.
Your guess is as good as mine. Kyree Walker, a four-star wing, left Hillcrest Prep in Arizona last month with the hope of enrolling in college between semesters. Word is that he is already fully qualified and that if he does choose a school in the coming weeks he would have two options. He could enroll and then redshirt for the remainder of the college season - similar to what Hamidou Diallo did three years ago - before seeing his eligibility begin in the fall of 2020. The other avenue he could take is to enroll and begin to play immediately, similar to what we saw with Austin Wiley four years ago.
Arkansas has been the most discussed landing spots for Walker, but there could be a few others that could become involved including Kansas, Memphis and Michigan. It seems that, for now, the idea of choosing the professional path has come and gone for this winter, and his likeliest option is college at the turn of the calendar year.
These guys have nothing to actually report. Arkansas is full up on scholarships right now.
Just seeing CJ's story on Bryce. Self really texted his Dad "we good" OMG!! That has me dying.
BShark said:
Interesting to offer after getting Bryce. Is this a real offer?
Uhhh. Good question.
Late bloomer type who’ll stick if ish hits the fan. Has some tools. Just tiny.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Late bloomer type who’ll stick if ish hits the fan. Has some tools. Just tiny.
Guessing this happens pretty quick. Same AAU as Gethro.
dylans said:
@FarmerJayhawk Can he shoot? If so KU needs a guy if the 4-1 is going to be a staple. This team is short handed in the guard position. IMHO
Oh my friend Kyree can DO IT ALL - -he is a beast - play 4 different positions - -they have stated he is a untitiled position player - flat out serious hops drive to the hole - -hit the /jay - I REALLY wanted him bad to come - -then people started talking about him going over sea's - and now I guess we just not interested. - -he isn't the plague or problem child or anything like that but I guess we just have moved on - -I would still take him in a heart beat
KK Robinson is not signing in the early period. Wonder if the staff will keep tabs on him even with signing Bryce.
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Late bloomer type who’ll stick if ish hits the fan. Has some tools. Just tiny.
Guessing this happens pretty quick. Same AAU as Gethro.
do you think we are really serious with this guy? - -I mean we are going to have Harris next year also - - seems funny
@jayballer73 Yes.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Late bloomer type who’ll stick if ish hits the fan. Has some tools. Just tiny.
We good. Donezo.
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Late bloomer type who’ll stick if ish hits the fan. Has some tools. Just tiny.
We good. Donezo.
Nifty. My read is he's basically Mackey 2.0. I like KK better but appears that ship has sailed.
@FarmerJayhawk I think anyone would but he appears Arkansas bound. Lot of guards on the roster to try and add KK when he will want pt.
KU is still actively recruiting KK Robinson fwiw. Arkansas however is the favorite. Plans to announce near the end of November.
BShark said:
KU is still actively recruiting KK Robinson fwiw. Arkansas however is the favorite. Plans to announce near the end of November.
I just don't really think to much of a chance now with Bryce being here, ad Harris into the mix next year. I know people will say don't think Harris being in the mix is going to come into play that much , and not really sure how they gonna play Bryce, - -are we playing Bryce as a Combo - - or are we going to insert him as a PG ? - I just don't have much confidence in landing him. - However I read somewhere that they said Arkansas was at it's limit - -couldn't swear to that but what was stated.
BShark said:
KU is still actively recruiting KK Robinson fwiw. Arkansas however is the favorite. Plans to announce near the end of November.
Having a hard time figuring out this out. They currently have 6 guards on the roster.
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
KU is still actively recruiting KK Robinson fwiw. Arkansas however is the favorite. Plans to announce near the end of November.
Having a hard time figuring out this out. They currently have 6 guards on the roster.
Guards: Harris, Thompson
Guard-ish: Garrett, Braun
Wings/4s: Agbaji, Enaruna, Wilson
Never hurts to have more actual guards as we have seen this year.
jayballer73 said:
BShark said:
KU is still actively recruiting KK Robinson fwiw. Arkansas however is the favorite. Plans to announce near the end of November.
I just don't really think to much of a chance now with Bryce being here, ad Harris into the mix next year. I know people will say don't think Harris being in the mix is going to come into play that much , and not really sure how they gonna play Bryce, - -are we playing Bryce as a Combo - - or are we going to insert him as a PG ? - I just don't have much confidence in landing him. - However I read somewhere that they said Arkansas was at it's limit - -couldn't swear to that but what was stated.
Starting at point guard a Freshman from Columbia Missouri, number 3...Dajuan Harrrrrisssssss.
Oh hi.
BShark said:
Oh hi.
He will get the KU bump and be a 4 star by the time it is all said and done :)
Woodrow said:
BShark said:
Oh hi.
He will get the KU bump and be a 4 star by the time it is all said and done :)
Looking at his tape I am not sure why he lacks at least mid-major offers tbh.
KU has been his dream since middle school so this is pretty cool.
BShark said:
jayballer73 said:
BShark said:
KU is still actively recruiting KK Robinson fwiw. Arkansas however is the favorite. Plans to announce near the end of November.
I just don't really think to much of a chance now with Bryce being here, ad Harris into the mix next year. I know people will say don't think Harris being in the mix is going to come into play that much , and not really sure how they gonna play Bryce, - -are we playing Bryce as a Combo - - or are we going to insert him as a PG ? - I just don't have much confidence in landing him. - However I read somewhere that they said Arkansas was at it's limit - -couldn't swear to that but what was stated.
Starting at point guard a Freshman from Columbia Missouri, number 3...Dajuan Harrrrrisssssss.
kinda what I was thinking sooo pretty well answers the KK recruitment wouldn't you think ?
BShark said:
Oh hi.
Is it me ? - - this just seems bizarre, weird - -almost like we offering for a body. - -I think might of mis used this Scholi- - unless we playing Thompson as a combo - which he competes with Oachi - - -then Harris and this kid a PG - just kind of a head scratcher for me.
Couldn't we have used this Scholi for like a grad transfer or another Big possibly - -can't quite figure this out
@jayballer73 That is my thought. I would have saved this for a grad transfer. This day and age there a high level kids year in and year out that can make a huge difference. This kid will transfer out in a year or two.
Woodrow said:
@jayballer73 That is my thought. I would have saved this for a grad transfer. This day and age there a high level kids year in and year out that can make a huge difference. This kid will transfer out in a year or two.
Let's see how he does 1st before talking him down
BShark said:
Woodrow said:
BShark said:
Oh hi.
He will get the KU bump and be a 4 star by the time it is all said and done :)
Looking at his tape I am not sure why he lacks at least mid-major offers tbh.
KU has been his dream since middle school so this is pretty cool.
I don't get it from watching his tape. Good finisher with both hands. Stroke looks good. Gets to the rim at will.
Now it'll take him a minute at this level I think. But he's definitely at least mid-major good.
A few things...
Good point from FAN214 let's wait and see how he does. The staff seems to be high on him. We don't know if he will wash out, maybe he has a Lucas/Mitch level love for the program. From what I've heard this is pretty close to the case. But you never know how kids react to Bill until they are on the team and at practices. We heard all the right things about McBride and he quit on the team. The good news is it's not like we are counting on this kid for anything right away. He has time to improve.
Plus right now of all times I find it hard to take shots at any kid that still wants to be a Jayhawk.
@Kcmatt7 Respectable AAU numbers maybe they were quite bad before last circuit, idk. Reaaaally hope we find out more after his commitment. There could be any number of reasons why he was under-recruited. For whatever anyone wants to say about Garrett he is a D1 level player and was almost invisible before KU got involved. There has to be a story with this kid.
Bill Self and undersized athletic point guards, name a more iconic duo.
Quote from Bill on the current class
"I thought it was more important this year than most just because of the unknown that waits out there," Self said. "And I don't mean unknown as being bad, unknown can be positive. You just don't know when this will be concluded. ... To have three guys like this jump on board now I think is a pretty strong move on their part, but also, more importantly, it helps us out and changes in my opinion what has been a fairly negative narrative that has been put out about us."
"There’s been a lot of years, a lot of years, where during the fall period we [don’t] even have what’s thought to be a highly, nationally-ranked class," Self said. "And I’m not saying this ranks up there with [the Andrew Wiggins, Joel Embiid, Wayne Selden class], but I do think considering everything that’s happened, I think it’s a terrific class. All three were our main targets. I don’t think we could have recruited better than we did at the respective positions that we were recruiting."
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
Woodrow said:
@jayballer73 That is my thought. I would have saved this for a grad transfer. This day and age there a high level kids year in and year out that can make a huge difference. This kid will transfer out in a year or two.
Let's see how he does 1st before talking him down
Nobody is talking him down, but what people are saying is the truth , there is a reason why he has not received P-5 offers - - not ONE - -there are a lot of kids that have skills -- just NOT P-5 skills - - -sure he might look like he has got better skills on his high light reel - - it's because it's HIS HIGH LIGHT REEL - -sure not going to show liabilities on a highlight reel.
Might be amid Major but there are people that follow this kids - -watch them see their level of athlete - -these people do these things for a living , think you can pretty well take what they say about the individual as solid. - NO P-5 offers other then KU - -just makes you wonder - -KU really going out on a limb - -it's ok - If Coach thinks he is legit enough to take the chance and offer? - - then who am I - -that's why Coach is Coach and I'm the Couch potato - -still doesn't mean a person can't scratch their head and go - - - hmmmmm - - things that make you go hmmmm - -time will tell, just hope people realize not all kids are a Frank Mason - -or Devonte Graham - -even they had other offers -- time will tell
For what it's worth...one of my best friends from college (who is a fellow KU grad) is the head coach at the D-2 school that is the other listed offer (Dallas Baptist). He loves Jossell's game, but said he isn't the kind of recruit that would get fans excited. That said, he couldn't believe that Jossell didn't have at least mid-major D-1 offers. Apparently there might be an AAU teammate of his that KU is after too.
My buddy thought he was in pretty good shape to get him and then KU spent a whole day with him in Dallas. He thought it was just a casual visit and then he saw the same tweet we all did announcing KU's offer. We were texting today and he's hoping Jossell will go the hat route and have the KU and DBU hats on the table and then to have the press release say 'Jossell chose Kansas over Dallas Baptist'.
focojayhawk said:
For what it's worth...one of my best friends from college (who is a fellow KU grad) is the head coach at the D-2 school that is the other listed offer (Dallas Baptist). He loves Jossell's game, but said he isn't the kind of recruit that would get fans excited. That said, he couldn't believe that Jossell didn't have at least mid-major D-1 offers. Apparently there might be an AAU teammate of his that KU is after too.
My buddy thought he was in pretty good shape to get him and then KU spent a whole day with him in Dallas. He thought it was just a casual visit and then he saw the same tweet we all did announcing KU's offer. We were texting today and he's hoping Jossell will go the hat route and have the KU and DBU hats on the table and then to have the press release say 'Jossell chose Kansas over Dallas Baptist'.
Thanks for the scoop. Also the last part was hilarious. I wonder where one can buy a Dallas Baptist hat. XD
We've already signed his AAU teammate Gethro Muscadin.
Scott Chasen talked to his HS coach as well as Gethro and had this to say: Expecting an announcement tonight, possibly a signing in the morning. Talented kid. He's worked on a lot of aspects of his game, and he's the type of kid that gets others invovled and doesn't mind sacrificing his body. Takes charges, stays late at practice help teammates. Helped build a good HS culture. KU has been on him for a little while, but sounds like he was a late find into this year.
Glad to know your buddy agrees with @Kcmatt7 and myself. The lack of almost any offers is bizarre. I am hoping post commitment we get a story or two about that.
Well , Meyer - - - Daniels - - - Chasen - -- & another all showed their CB for our upcoming commit - - glad to get this over with - been a heated recruiting battle - -Jus hope he doesn't jump ship and commit to DB at the last minute.
Just having a little fun don't get all serious on this. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
jayballer73 said:
Well , Meyer - - - Daniels - - - Chasen - -- & another all showed their CB for our upcoming commit - - glad to get this over with - been a heated recruiting battle - -Jus hope he doesn't jump ship and commit to DB at the last minute.
Just having a little fun don't get all serious on this. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
So your saying he might take other visits after committing. Oh god the horror, I'm so done with this guy. why cant we chase the 5 stars! Ugh.
BeddieKU23 said:
jayballer73 said:
Well , Meyer - - - Daniels - - - Chasen - -- & another all showed their CB for our upcoming commit - - glad to get this over with - been a heated recruiting battle - -Jus hope he doesn't jump ship and commit to DB at the last minute.
Just having a little fun don't get all serious on this. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
So your saying he might take other visits after committing. Oh god the horror, I'm so done with this guy. why cant we chase the 5 stars! Ugh.
yes , yes I'm afraid we might lose him at the last moment to DB -who needs 5 * when w can get game changers like this lol
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alwaysajayhawk said:
@BShark Seen the Jossell kid play AAU basketball this summer, definitely not a KU basketball type of player, the kid is 5"8 at best and had a very hard time getting his shot, I really don't understand this one !
Welcome to the crowd - -you are right along with many others here and other sites
Woodrow said:
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Appears Kk Robinson is down too KU and Arkansas . I assume KU is window dressing.
pretty much
alwaysajayhawk said:
@BShark Seen the Jossell kid play AAU basketball this summer, definitely not a KU basketball type of player, the kid is 5"8 at best and had a very hard time getting his shot, I really don't understand this one !
He has improved and grown a bit. That said he isn't cracking the rotation next year. Which is fine because even with Dotson going pro we have a lot of good guards and wings.
FWIW, Kyree Walker wants to enter the 2020 draft. KU would only be interested if he wanted to come back for 20-21. Since that’s not the case, KU won’t be an option. KK obviously isn’t signing in the fall but I don’t expect KU to circle back unless something weird like Christian Braun transferring happens. (Not that Braun is going anywhere. Just an example of the type of weird it would take)
Latrell jossell has committed to ku
Got heeeeem
One thing I have to agree with on from another poster , an that is - -With the roster and the way it shaped up for 2020 , - - Wilson - - Muscadin - - Jossell - - Braun - - & Harris
Hopefully it can help and you would think it might - -but should be able to hopefully help with some in roads on 2021 recruits do to the AAU connections , would help us possibly with Harrison Ingram - - -Kennedy Chandler - -& Kendall Brown - -that would be sweet if it can. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
So, my read is we are taking Jossell as we are anticipating that the roster spot will be there and he staff sees potential for development. As we have seen in the past, if the player's development does not merit the playing time that he wants.....he transfers.
jayballer73 said:
I read this from a poster off the phog. - -He had this for NEXT year's line up. - -Said he would like to see - Can't say I really disagree - - think it looks pretty goo to me. - -It went like this :
Pg : - - -Garrett/ Harris
Sg :- - - Thompson / Braun
Sf :- - - Agbaji ? Grant Foster
Pf :- - - Enaruna ? Wilson
C :- - - McCormack / LightfootI could live with that. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I could too, no doubt.
BeddieKU23 said:
COHawk said:
Hasn't Enaruna shown up on some draft boards?
2nd round next year but that's going to change if he continues to have a big role and produce.
Enaruna is a sure fire future first rounder, possibly even a lottery pick. We will be lucky if he sticks around past year two.
Might be in the market for another big in this class.
BShark said:
Might be in the market for another big in this class.
What's sparking that?
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
Might be in the market for another big in this class.
What's sparking that?
College sports is all about ABC. Always Be Cruitin.
Does it seem Self is done w/big slow centers?
@Crimsonorblue22 that’s a really interesting observation. I checked out the offer lists for 2020 and 2021 and we haven’t offered anyone we’d consider a “bruiser” like Dave or Doke. Lots of lanky, 210-230 pounders who have some skill.
@FarmerJayhawk including our one post signee even if he is a project.
Need an Marcus Morris, Aurthur, Wright type 4 if Bill really wants to keep running the hi-low.
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
Might be in the market for another big in this class.
What's sparking that?
I think it might be possibly from thinking that Silvio I think is gone whether pro or not - - I and a few others I've talked with just seem to think he will be gone after this year - -oversea's maybe
Is Silvio's buddy having success in the nba?
@Crimsonorblue22 Bench guy so far.
That was for Jossell I believe.
Staff is after Frank Anselem as he may reclassify into 20. Reading some things it would sound as if they prefer he'd stay in 21 where they would have the best chance of landing him. If he goes into 20 looks like LSU is the front runner
BeddieKU23 said:
That was for Jossell I believe.
Staff is after Frank Anselem as he may reclassify into 20. Reading some things it would sound as if they prefer he'd stay in 21 where they would have the best chance of landing him. If he goes into 20 looks like LSU is the front runner
Yeah, I got to know about Jossell in advance due to a friendship not that it was even really a secret.
I hope you guys liked his commitment video edit. :D
Hard to see Anselem getting away from LSU regardless.
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
That was for Jossell I believe.
Staff is after Frank Anselem as he may reclassify into 20. Reading some things it would sound as if they prefer he'd stay in 21 where they would have the best chance of landing him. If he goes into 20 looks like LSU is the front runner
Yeah, I got to know about Jossell in advance due to a friendship not that it was even really a secret.
I hope you guys liked his commitment video edit. :D
Hard to see Anselem getting away from LSU regardless.
Kendall Brown @BShark is a playah! We have got to sign him. I'm all in on signing the KC area and Sunrise kids, ditto keeping the Wasatch pipeline open.
No Surprise, Adam Miller commits to Illinois.
Didn't sign in the early period so that means he'll sign with Duke in the Spring
Some statistics to point out how this recruiting cycle is going.
The Big-12 has been hurt by KU's NOA, Texas being young and having zero commits. Oklahoma also took a big class last year and only has 1 commit. Overall the Big-12 has 6 teams in the Top 20 team ranks
@BeddieKU23 I believe those numbers reflect the ups and downs in the normal recruiting cycle more than anything.
Also, the Big 12 is smaller now than the other Big 5 power conferences and I no longer remember enough statistics to analyze the numbers properly.
And maybe HCBS has decided that the best way to get another NCAA title is with experienced players who have learned to play Billy-Ball and w/a couple of top 25 players (OADs) thrown in.
OR, I have no idea...
KK announcing Thursday. Can’t think KU has a shot but Arkansas is like 3 guys overcommitted at this point.
FarmerJayhawk said:
KK announcing Thursday. Can’t think KU has a shot but Arkansas is like 3 guys overcommitted at this point.
IT WILL BE ARKANSAS
FarmerJayhawk said:
KK announcing Thursday. Can’t think KU has a shot but Arkansas is like 3 guys overcommitted at this point.
hmmmm, well one might think that -- - -that might give us a shot still BUT these programs have ways of working & twisting things around right? - -sure would be sweet if somehow we did fall into him. - We really don't have any scholi's right now either do we? - - - he probably still lands at Arkansas - -home town and such. -- be nice him and Bryce together. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
With about 4 point guards on the roster
KK picked Arkansas. Just a very puzzling decision given the roster
BeddieKU23 said:
KK picked Arkansas. Just a very puzzling decision given the roster
Honestly... and I know that this doesn't really happen much in basketball but he should have opened it back up. Neither KU or Arky made sense if he wants to play next year.
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
KK picked Arkansas. Just a very puzzling decision given the roster
Honestly... and I know that this doesn't really happen much in basketball but he should have opened it back up. Neither KU or Arky made sense if he wants to play next year.
Yupp. I liked his game so my criticism of his pick was more about him finding somewhere to play early without an uphill battle. I guess he was really sold on Musselman and staying home
@BeddieKU23 I guess he is okay with being deep bench. He is ranked in the 70s and starting right away isn't for everyone.
Curious , and I know there is no room on the roster for this year BUT just had a question. - -JT Thor didn't sign in the early period most thought he would be signing early with Okla State. - -he didn't , but said he never planned signing early from the start. - -There has been some talk about possible Over sea's - -he said he thought some about- -but very unlikely.
Thing is I the article said there was four schools really focusing on him. -- Oklahoma State - - - -Kentucky - - - KU - - & then I forget another school, his only official had been to Oklahoma State.
Having said all that to ask this question - -Is there ANY possible chance - - any at all with the extra time to work on him - -would there be any chance to convince him NOT to re-classify to 2020. - the article said class of 2022 , that's not right is it, thought he was 2021. - -If he stayed put we could always hit him hard for next year. - -ANY CHANCE?
Believe that article is wrong hes a 2020 guy. He visited only 2 schools on his supposed
list. Farmer would know more but I dont think we have been active with Thor in a while. Maybe that changes as the season goes on but OSU having a good start and looking like a team that could be ranked during the season might seal the deal for them as they have the roster space
BeddieKU23 said:
Believe that article is wrong hes a 2020 guy. He visited only 2 schools on his supposed
list. Farmer would know more but I dont think we have been active with Thor in a while. Maybe that changes as the season goes on but OSU having a good start and looking like a team that could be ranked during the season might seal the deal for them as they have the roster space
thanks. - -I don't know could very easily be wrong but I swear originally he was in the class of 2021 and sure thought I read articles where he was talking about wanting to re-classify to 2020 - -again coul be easily wrong but - hell the article said he was class of 2022 I know that can't be right - -he wouldn't be jumping 2 years for sure - -don't know why I sure thought he was 2021 and then re-classified to 2020 - -oh well wouldn't be the 1st time I'm wrong
Ya I didn't think we checking in on him - -but this thig I read today said it was Oklahoma St - - -Ku - - Georgia - - & Kentucky. - -I don't think Kentucky has really any serious interest - - he broke down all 4 schools - -who knows
BeddieKU23 said:
Believe that article is wrong hes a 2020 guy. He visited only 2 schools on his supposed
list. Farmer would know more but I dont think we have been active with Thor in a while. Maybe that changes as the season goes on but OSU having a good start and looking like a team that could be ranked during the season might seal the deal for them as they have the roster space
Thor is a 2020 kid. I think it's pretty likely he's going to OSU barring some NCAA stuff. At this point I think it drags on for awhile.
@jayballer73 It would be far from bad if we somehow were able to land not only JT Thor, but also Zeus Williams and Poseidon Jackson all in one fell swoop.
Rumors swirling that ISU lost a recruit after last nights game...
BShark said:
Rumors swirling that ISU lost a recruit after last nights game...
Would only be interested if it’s Foster.
@FarmerJayhawk yeah but I think he would just end up at Iowa. The top rumor appears to be Blackwell who we definitely don't have a need for.
Wrinkle. Zion Harmon is reclassifying and KU is an option. He'll visit for the Tennessee game (I think)
FarmerJayhawk said:
Wrinkle. Zion Harmon is reclassifying and KU is an option. He'll visit for the Tennessee game (I think)
Interesting we have been hanging around in his recruitment. Small guard but Self seems to love them
BeddieKU23 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Wrinkle. Zion Harmon is reclassifying and KU is an option. He'll visit for the Tennessee game (I think)
Interesting we have been hanging around in his recruitment. Small guard but Self seems to love them
Little dude is absolutely wired to score
Absolutely need to land a PG who can play from day 1 in the 2020 class imo.
Kcmatt7 said:
Absolutely need to land a PG who can play from day 1 in the 2020 class imo.
I'm bullish on Harris, who'll be a de facto member of the 2020 class after RS'ing this year.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Absolutely need to land a PG who can play from day 1 in the 2020 class imo.
I'm bullish on Harris, who'll be a de facto member of the 2020 class after RS'ing this year.
I am too, I just don't like putting all of our eggs in that basket.
@FarmerJayhawk Can he shoot??!!
Kcmatt7 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Absolutely need to land a PG who can play from day 1 in the 2020 class imo.
I'm bullish on Harris, who'll be a de facto member of the 2020 class after RS'ing this year.
I am too, I just don't like putting all of our eggs in that basket.
That's fair. Harris might not even start:
Garrett, Thompson, Agbaji, Enaruna, McCormack (rough guess)
Woodrow said:
@FarmerJayhawk Can he shoot??!!
Not his strength. But I'd also add he's far from a lock to KU. I'd say we're behind the hometown school WKU and Maryland at least.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Wrinkle. Zion Harmon is reclassifying and KU is an option. He'll visit for the Tennessee game (I think)
This poster on the Maryland board nailed it...
"Seeing Western Kentucky on a kid’s list is basically his camp’s way of letting you know what they’re looking for."
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Wrinkle. Zion Harmon is reclassifying and KU is an option. He'll visit for the Tennessee game (I think)
This poster on the Maryland board nailed it...
"Seeing Western Kentucky on a kid’s list is basically his camp’s way of letting you know what they’re looking for."
cc: Precious Achiwua
Your right about that and probably one of the things that keeps the staff on his trail
Interesting things going on in Manhattan. They already had a 4 man class (despite 3 open scholarships), just signed a transfer big from UTEP and are hot and heavy after another PG from Nebraska. Looks like Bruce is going to mush some players again.
BShark said:
Interesting things going on in Manhattan. They already had a 4 man class (despite 3 open scholarships), just signed a transfer big from UTEP and are hot and heavy after another PG from Nebraska. Looks like Bruce is going to mush some players again.
Brucie HAS to do something. - -now here is a coach in Basketball that might be pushing players out in Basketball & yet as I have read There are people who think that Coach Miles is just dis-respectful , no class as they say for recruiting over a commit in football - -offering more then what's available - sorry that's just the way it is - you recruit - -recruit - - recruit always looking for better right?
Really no different to me then like in football when a recruit verbals to a School such as KU and it is really no more then ya - ok I am committing and then they wait for the bigger fish to offer and then DE-COMMIT and leave a School hanging
But ya Brucie up to pushing people out. - -Are Scholi's still only good year to year ? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BShark said:
Interesting things going on in Manhattan. They already had a 4 man class (despite 3 open scholarships), just signed a transfer big from UTEP and are hot and heavy after another PG from Nebraska. Looks like Bruce is going to mush some players again.
Looking for guys that will max out the play harder mixtape
Oregon continues to drop them bags- landing former Michigan St commit PG Jalen Terry cause you know its easy pulling recruits from Michigan
We should have room to get 1 more.
Any bigs left out there? Maybe the transfer market
Greg Brown would look nice in a KU uni. Too bad we can't pay him what he wants.
BeddieKU23 said:
Greg Brown would look nice in a KU uni. Too bad we can't pay him what he wants.
swooooosh
JT Thor, Cliff Omoruyi the only uncommitted Top 100 bigs out there.. Both waiting to pick which Nike Check they want!
Zion Harmon moved his visit , was suppose to be this week end. - coming in to Visit now on the 2-3 of February
He right now is the # 20 player in 2021 , but his dad as saying possible re-class to 2020. Will know for sure I think his Birthday which they said I think is March 12th
jayballer73 said:
Zion Harmon moved his visit , was suppose to be this week end. - coming in to Visit now on the 2-3 of February
He right now is the # 20 player in 2021 , but his dad as saying possible re-class to 2020. Will know for sure I think his Birthday which they said I think is March 12th
Interesting. Pretty sure we aren’t playing ball there.
Been going through the Dajuan Harris tape. Hope we get an update on him at some point this season from the coaches. I really think he will be a solid backup to Garrett next season when needed. I'm excited to see if he is another diamond found
BeddieKU23 said:
Been going through the Dajuan Harris tape. Hope we get an update on him at some point this season from the coaches. I really think he will be a solid backup to Garrett next season when needed. I'm excited to see if he is another diamond found
I like his length, passing ability and D.
All 3 give him a chance to play next season. I also like his ability to use his body to get in the lane and then snipe a floater up. His athleticism improved big time over the last few years. Hopefully he put on 10 to 15 pounds this season because playing at 160 is not possible. I think he has intangibles and certainly has familiarity playing with Braun
Huh. Looks like JT Thor might go back to 2021, take a prep year, and explore the draft or go pro overseas.
Makes sense why his recruitment is crickets
Hearing that if we land Harmon we may axe Jossell or find a way to push him back to 21.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Recruiting:
Hearing that if we land Harmon we may axe Jossell or find a way to push him back to 21.
Oh man,,,,, @jayballer73 is going to not be able to contain himself on hearing this news Lol.
I'm going to say it everyone, you ready...? My opinion? I think that the NCAA investigation - as far as recruiting goes - has actually (looking back, in retrospect) helped us.
I love both this and next year's classes. The scandal has caused us to re-examine local talent, as well as sign other players who otherwise would have gone on to thrive for three or four seasons in other programs. It is going to pay bigtime dividends, my friends.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Recruiting:
Hearing that if we land Harmon we may axe Jossell or find a way to push him back to 21.
Things change playah?
Trying to figure out how Harmon fits on that squad next yr.. interesting note on Jossell
@BeddieKU23 ditto.
@BShark said in 2020 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Recruiting:
Hearing that if we land Harmon we may axe Jossell or find a way to push him back to 21.
Things change playah?
I think just contingency planning
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Recruiting:
@BShark said in 2020 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Recruiting:
Hearing that if we land Harmon we may axe Jossell or find a way to push him back to 21.
Things change playah?
I think just contingency planning
Is his scoring worth the extra stuff.. These types of kids give me nightmares
🐦 View Tweet?s=21
Looks a new target ...
I dig. More of a wing than guard but could be a nasty 2/3 in a couple years. Also shooting 35% from 3 and 72% from the line this year. Love his frame. Dude is large.
First impression, well built kid. Tattoo game on the right arm is lit. Can definitely shoot the 3. Dropped 50 in a recent game. Decent handles/athletic ability. 4 year guy.
For those wondering Donovan Williams- Former Nebraska commit #146 6'5 SG 190 from Lincoln Nebraska.
Since decommitting he's taken unofficial visits to Oklahoma St, Kansas St in 2020. Will be interesting to see if they offer
@BShark said in 2020 Recruiting:
@Woodrow would rather have this kid than Jossell or Harmon tbh.
Yeah you can see the fit with him. Really wondering what all this recent activity for a guard is about. Figured we'd be more in the market for a big
@BeddieKU23 We might move on from Jossell as Farmer mentioned. Not only was he a reach but he has been hurt this year.
Don't think we need a big.
@BShark said in 2020 Recruiting:
@BeddieKU23 We might move on from Jossell as Farmer mentioned. Not only was he a reach but he has been hurt this year.
Don't think we need a big.
Yeah I can see that happening.
We really rolling with Dave/Mitch and maybe Silvio? Can't imagine Gethro plays a ton.
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Recruiting:
@BShark said in 2020 Recruiting:
@BeddieKU23 We might move on from Jossell as Farmer mentioned. Not only was he a reach but he has been hurt this year.
Don't think we need a big.
Yeah I can see that happening.
We really rolling with Dave/Mitch and maybe Silvio? Can't imagine Gethro plays a ton.
Going small with Wilson and Enaruna playing the 4. Dave starts at the 5, Silvio and Mitch as backups. The competition for who starts at the 4 will be fascinating to watch
Additional info on Donovan Williams per Zagsblog:
https://www.zagsblog.com/2020/02/17/donovan-williams-says-six-schools-working-hardest-kansas-showing-interest/ ↗
Kansas became the latest school to reach out on Monday and will send an assistant to watch Williams on Tuesday.
“They said that they’ll probably have a few guys leaving next year with graduation, a couple to NBA and also transfers,” Williams said Monday. “So they really need a guy like me who can spread the floor and shoot the ball. They are looking forward to recruiting me and they’ll be at my game tomorrow.”
Although he has nothing set yet, Williams says he may visit Kansas in the near future.
“I don’t have any visits planned. I’m going to wait until the season is over,” he said. “Kansas wants me down on Feb. 24 against Oklahoma State so I might make that trip.”
Interesting he mentions transfers... I can't really think of a good transfer candidate, but if I had too pick I would say Tristan.
@Woodrow said in 2020 Recruiting:
Interesting he mentions transfers... I can't really think of a good transfer candidate, but if I had too pick I would say Tristan.
Silvio would be my guess but haven't heard anything for sure. I'd love for him to stay and actually have a great year.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Recruiting:
I dig. More of a wing than guard but could be a nasty 2/3 in a couple years. Also shooting 35% from 3 and 72% from the line this year. Love his frame. Dude is large.
Thought we were done on our 2020 recruiting ? - -National Signing day for 2020 coming up in March isn't it ? Do we have room for this guy? - -just curious cause I sure don't know - -thanks bud
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Recruiting:
@BShark said in 2020 Recruiting:
@Woodrow would rather have this kid than Jossell or Harmon tbh.
Yeah you can see the fit with him. Really wondering what all this recent activity for a guard is about. Figured we'd be more in the market for a big
Aren't we looking at Bryce as our 2 guard ? - - Garrett & Harris running at ~1 ? - - wondering why we would be on this guy IF Bryce plays the 2 - -just curious
@BShark said in 2020 Recruiting:
@BeddieKU23 We might move on from Jossell as Farmer mentioned. Not only was he a reach but he has been hurt this year.
Don't think we need a big.
we don't need a big? - -that's interesting
@jayballer73 said in 2020 Recruiting:
@BShark said in 2020 Recruiting:
@BeddieKU23 We might move on from Jossell as Farmer mentioned. Not only was he a reach but he has been hurt this year.
Don't think we need a big.
we don't need a big? - -that's interesting
We have 3 centers and 2 wing/forwards on the roster if no one leaves early.
Then you have a bunch of guys capable of playing the 4 as well albeit a bit more undersized.
@jayballer73 said in 2020 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Recruiting:
I dig. More of a wing than guard but could be a nasty 2/3 in a couple years. Also shooting 35% from 3 and 72% from the line this year. Love his frame. Dude is large.
Thought we were done on our 2020 recruiting ? - -National Signing day for 2020 coming up in March isn't it ? Do we have room for this guy? - -just curious cause I sure don't know - -thanks bud
If we offer, someone is leaving unexpectedly. Worth noting he does not currently have a KU offer.
@Woodrow said in 2020 Recruiting:
Interesting he mentions transfers... I can't really think of a good transfer candidate, but if I had too pick I would say Tristan.
hmmmm , I see that - -Transfers ? just don't know who that would be - - MAYBE Tristian I guess
@BShark said in 2020 Recruiting:
@jayballer73 said in 2020 Recruiting:
@BShark said in 2020 Recruiting:
@BeddieKU23 We might move on from Jossell as Farmer mentioned. Not only was he a reach but he has been hurt this year.
Don't think we need a big.
we don't need a big? - -that's interesting
We have 3 centers and 2 wing/forwards on the roster if no one leaves early.
Then you have a bunch of guys capable of playing the 4 as well albeit a bit more undersized.
@jayballer73 said in 2020 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Recruiting:
I dig. More of a wing than guard but could be a nasty 2/3 in a couple years. Also shooting 35% from 3 and 72% from the line this year. Love his frame. Dude is large.
Thought we were done on our 2020 recruiting ? - -National Signing day for 2020 coming up in March isn't it ? Do we have room for this guy? - -just curious cause I sure don't know - -thanks bud
If we offer, someone is leaving unexpectedly. Worth noting he does not currently have a KU offer.
from the little tid bit I read on the kid - -sounds like maybe interest as soon as we say we very well could be recruiting him and are going to be at his game - - he says he might very well visit KU - pretty quick response from him on this I think if we get seriously involved we automatically become serios contender.
@jayballer73 said in 2020 Recruiting:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Recruiting:
@BShark said in 2020 Recruiting:
@Woodrow would rather have this kid than Jossell or Harmon tbh.
Yeah you can see the fit with him. Really wondering what all this recent activity for a guard is about. Figured we'd be more in the market for a big
Aren't we looking at Bryce as our 2 guard ? - - Garrett & Harris running at ~1 ? - - wondering why we would be on this guy IF Bryce plays the 2 - -just curious
Got 13 scholarships, might as well use them. This guy is not a starting level guy next year.
@BShark said in 2020 Recruiting:
@jayballer73 said in 2020 Recruiting:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Recruiting:
@BShark said in 2020 Recruiting:
@Woodrow would rather have this kid than Jossell or Harmon tbh.
Yeah you can see the fit with him. Really wondering what all this recent activity for a guard is about. Figured we'd be more in the market for a big
Aren't we looking at Bryce as our 2 guard ? - - Garrett & Harris running at ~1 ? - - wondering why we would be on this guy IF Bryce plays the 2 - -just curious
Got 13 scholarships, might as well use them. This guy is not a starting level guy next year.
understand ,but just didn't realize that we didn't already have 13 on board right now
@jayballer73 We are currently full, so you didn't miss anything. I mentioned in my last post an offer would be telling because it means we have to make room.
Still having some trouble. Mainly with threads that are very long like the 2020 recruiting. Like 1,146 posts on this and never fails on this thread have to scroll all the way through to get to the most recent kinda sucks
@BShark said in 2020 Recruiting:
@jayballer73 We are currently full, so you didn't miss anything. I mentioned in my last post an offer would be telling because it means we have to make room.
Maybe that's where the kid is getting transfer - - like mentioned Tristian ?
@jayballer73 If you click the double down arrow up top you at least shouldn't have to scroll down.
@BShark said in 2020 Recruiting:
@jayballer73 If you click the double down arrow up top you at least shouldn't have to scroll down.
sorry bud - - Double down arrow ? - - only arrow I see is a arrow where you can either scroll up - - or down I know not the brightest light in the house sorry bud
Ahh you talking about that little teenie double arrow in blue ?
@jayballer73 said in 2020 Recruiting:
Ahh you talking about that little teenie double arrow in blue ?
I made a very fancy high tech picture.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Recruiting:
@Woodrow said in 2020 Recruiting:
Interesting he mentions transfers... I can't really think of a good transfer candidate, but if I had too pick I would say Tristan.
Silvio would be my guess but haven't heard anything for sure. I'd love for him to stay and actually have a great year.
If Silvio left you need a big.. really thin otherwise.
@BeddieKU23 Agree. Gethro as the emergency 5 is not appealing.
I really don't think there is anyone considering transferring at this point but you never know. What a kid says to a reporter, and what he actually heard and what the reporter actually heard, can be worlds apart. Probably more of a factor that Self has to account for not only graduation and NBA entrants, but also the possibility that someone may transfer (although at this point there is no indication of said transfer, but Self has been caught off guard before and is covering all his bases - type response to a recruit).
@1JayhawkLifer Mentioned this on the phog but I agree, it's likely just Bill covering his bases here. He wants it to be known there is room, IF KU offers.
Jossell is Bill's classic trap
“The jury’s still out to see what he can be,” Self said of Jossell, “and I’m not going to paint him out to be something that we don’t know he can be yet, but I do think if you’re fast and can shoot and you’re tough, the ceiling’s pretty high.”
From this recent article: https://www.dallasnews.com/high-school-sports/basketball/2020/02/18/from-no-offers-to-kansas-how-keller-central-guard-latrell-jossell-went-overlooked-for-so-long/? ↗
@BShark said in 2020 Recruiting:
@jayballer73 said in 2020 Recruiting:
Ahh you talking about that little teenie double arrow in blue ?
I made a very fancy high tech picture.
ya found that thanks. - -very nice illustration by the way lol. - - - arock chalk all day long baby
Donovan Williams went 1-15 from three with KU coaches (and probably lots of other coaches) in attendance.
@BShark said in 2020 Recruiting:
Donovan Williams went 1-15 from three with KU coaches (and probably lots of other coaches) in attendance.
ouch, not a good way to get yourself a big offer
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Recruiting:
@BShark said in 2020 Recruiting:
Donovan Williams went 1-15 from three with KU coaches (and probably lots of other coaches) in attendance.
ouch, not a good way to get yourself a big offer
Yeah, unsurprisingly I haven't seen anything about an offer from KU or Oregon (believe they are also "showing interest").
@BeddieKU23 Hobo version of Jalen Wilson tbh.
@BShark said in 2020 Recruiting:
@BeddieKU23 Hobo version of Jalen Wilson tbh.
Tattoo game is strong on that one
@Woodrow said in 2020 Recruiting:
Interesting he mentions transfers... I can't really think of a good transfer candidate, but if I had too pick I would say Tristan.
I would say (now that I've rethought it) that the transfer, if at all, would come from Silvio - just my thinking. After what has transpired this year - the chair and his play - I wouldn't be surprised if it happened to hear that Coach kind of nudged him in that direction.
As far as Silvio goes I just don’t see Self moving on from him. The amount of money and time the university has invested in him is pretty significant. Also, it’s clear Self has a soft spot for him. He also has a pretty serious GF at KU...
Now maybe he wants a change of scenery but I doubt that as well.
Williams coming for an unofficial the 24th. Not much to see here unless we offer, which seems unlikely. Hunter Sallis is a big time target in 21 though.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Recruiting:
Williams coming for an unofficial the 24th. Not much to see here unless we offer, which seems unlikely. Hunter Sallis is a big time target in 21 though.
I just don't see it with this kid. Not a p5 level athlete. Looks like a late emergency add if needed. He apparently won't decide until April so it seems like he is aiming high and hoping a big school gets desperate.
@BShark said in 2020 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Recruiting:
Williams coming for an unofficial the 24th. Not much to see here unless we offer, which seems unlikely. Hunter Sallis is a big time target in 21 though.
I just don't see it with this kid. Not a p5 level athlete. Looks like a late emergency add if needed. He apparently won't decide until April so it seems like he is aiming high and hoping a big school gets desperate.
After committing to Nebraska he sure is aiming higher.
Can't help but like the kid after reading Chasen's article. Wish him well wherever he ends up.
Williams coming in for another unofficial. Sounds like he is recruiting KU.
@BShark said in 2020 Recruiting:
Williams coming in for another unofficial. Sounds like he is recruiting KU.
Williams ? - Williams ? - -help me out buddy , is this the guy that some Coach's went to see and he just sucked ? -- Whoever it is sounds like he really wants to come here , ya think ? - -just saying just interesting I know people said they really don't want him -- I'm just curious , and this kid would be a 2020 recruit ? - -Dam I'm confused , thought we were full. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer73 we are full, and haven't offered him. Sounds like a contingency plan in case someone leaves unexpectedly.
And yeah he went 1-15 from three with KU coaches watching.
Maybe he’ll walk on lol
If someone like Silvio leaves, don’t be surprised if we circle back to JT Thor. That’s an.. ummm... interesting recruitment. Okie Lite is all but out.
Would teams want silvio😥 we’ve fought pretty hard for him
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Recruiting:
If someone like Silvio leaves, don’t be surprised if we circle back to JT Thor. That’s an.. ummm... interesting recruitment. Okie Lite is all but out.
See an article about Auburn making a push. Yeah interesting is a good word.
@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2020 Recruiting:
Would teams want silvio😥 we’ve fought pretty hard for him
I don’t think he leaves, but he may want to test the pro waters.
@FarmerJayhawk To be honest, I hope that he does transfer. Thought the same about Grimes, and that worked out pretty well for both parties.
@Marco said in 2020 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk To be honest, I hope that he does transfer. Thought the same about Grimes, and that worked out pretty well for both parties.
As long as he has eligibility, I’d love to have him stick around. He’s a great kid and is close to getting his degree. That diploma is a big source of pride for a lot of guys.
Silvio and Q are not remotely on the same level in terms of relationship with Bill. If Silvio wants to stay, he will be staying.
@BShark said in 2020 Recruiting:
Silvio and Q are not remotely on the same level in terms of relationship with Bill. If Silvio wants to stay, he will be staying.
I believe Silvio has a pretty serious gf that plays on the softball team too
@FarmerJayhawk "Well, he has a girlfriend on the softball team, so we obviously have to keep him here"? I don't get it...
@Marco said in 2020 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk "Well, he has a girlfriend on the softball team, so we obviously have to keep him here"? I don't get it...
Not what I said. I’m saying he wants to stay and there’s no real reason to boot him because some jagoffs in the press think it’s “bad optics.”
@FarmerJayhawk Okay. To me it's not about optics, I could not care less. I think the guy is just bad, period - not only as a person, but as a player.
@Marco said in 2020 Recruiting:
@BShark Well, I guess what I'm saying then is that I hope that he doesn't want to. Sorry, not buying into the "he's a good kid" theory. He was getting ready to possibly kill a guy with a chair.
It’s not a theory. Ask anyone around campus or the program who’s been around Silvio and they all say how good a guy he is. If we’re all judged by our worst moments I guess we’re probably almost all bad people. Not my style but you do you.
@FarmerJayhawk Thanks for giving your permission for me to do me! And I give mine for you to be you.... In moments of duress the true version of a person can and will show itself.
@Marco said in 2020 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk Thanks for giving your permission for me to do me! And I give mine for you to be you.... In moments of duress the true version of a person can and will show itself.
Correct. So we can all label a guy who realized his mistake of grabbing the stool and putting it down within about 2 seconds a bad guy for the rest of his life. Makes total sense.
@FarmerJayhawk In answer to your loaded politically-correct question, he should be kicked off the team. There has to be rules and repercussions. Sorry Silvio, I realize that you have a girlfriend on the softball team, but picking up a chair and getting ready to bash a guy in the head - after you started the altercation in the first place by standing over and taunting a fallen player - is a no-no.
@Marco said in 2020 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk In answer to your loaded politically-correct question, he should be kicked off the team. There has to be rules and repercussions. Sorry Silvio, I realize that you have a girlfriend on the softball team, but picking up a chair and getting ready to bash a guy in the head - after you started the altercation in the first place by standing over and taunting a fallen player - is a no-no.
I never said that and you know it. Have a lovely day.
@FarmerJayhawk You too.
@Crimsonorblue22 Probably not (maybe Alcorn State), but we can hope @Crimsonorblue22, we can hope.
@BShark said in 2020 Recruiting:
@BeddieKU23 Hobo version of Jalen Wilson tbh.
We're going to get a hobo version of Jalen Wilson? Cool.....
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Recruiting:
If we’re all judged by our worst moments...
This is what defines people, how we respond in the worst most pressure packed moments. It’s easy to do right under good circumstances.
That being said Silvio dropped the stool of his own volition. McCormack was the one I thought was frightening in person. Silvio looked like a goofy ass kid imitating his wrassling heroes before he realized how dumb his actions were. I’m thankful he had that moment of realization or he would be gone already, but as is may be packing his bags.
@BShark said in 2020 Recruiting:
@Marco maybe not we still haven't bothered to ofer. We are currently ful.
And likely won't. A big is more likely.
@Marco 🐦 View Tweet?s=21
I can't believe what you are saying! Really sad!
@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2020 Recruiting:
@Marco 🐦 View Tweet?s=21
I can't believe what you are saying! Really sad!
@Crimsonorblue22 Thank you for posting that link. I had seen it earlier and was going to post it. Great minds . . .
10/10 would take as a grad transfer. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/mattias-markusson-1.html ↗
@FarmerJayhawk probably a solid role player has he announced that he will grad transfer?
@BShark said in 2020 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk probably a solid role player has he announced that he will grad transfer?
Yep, he has ascended into the portal
Has anyone found out if the portal is something you enter physically or just a gathering place? Such a funny name for transferring
@FarmerJayhawk 7’ 3”!!! Wowza
@Crimsonorblue22 Window dressing. We have a difference in opinion, don't shoot me. Imo he is not a good person, let alone - how old is he? - kid. He tried to - after starting the fight - bring (changed his mind only after someone from behind changed it for him, reminding him of what the fuck he was about ready to do) a chair to what was his fist fight.
Anyway, lets get back to recruiting.
@Marco said in 2020 Recruiting:
@Crimsonorblue22 Window dressing. We have a difference in opinion, don't shoot me. Imo he is not a good person, let alone - how old is he? - kid. He tried to - after starting the fight - bring (changed his mind only after someone from behind changed it for him, reminding him of what the fuck he was about ready to do) a chair to what was his fist fight.
It doesn't sound like you saw the clip showing that Silvio dropped the chair himself. It wasn't taken from him.
@RockkChalkk I'm moving on from this subject, okay?
Highly doubt KU offers barring a lot of defections. 🐦 View Tweet?s=21
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Recruiting:
Highly doubt KU offers barring a lot of defections. 🐦 View Tweet?s=21
I'm banking on zero defections. This one has all the makings of the kid wants KU but KU isn't super interested.
Still better then the 13th guy we signed..
It doesn’t look like the staff has reached out to Nolley II https://stockrisers.com/2020/03/16/landers-nolley-ii-opts-to-transfer-after-stellar-season-talks-potential-suitors/amp/?__twitter_impression=true ↗ I wonder why? Two year tie up of a scholarship for one year of services? Or will he play multiple (more) years?
@dylans said in 2020 Recruiting:
It doesn’t look like the staff has reached out to Nolley II https://stockrisers.com/2020/03/16/landers-nolley-ii-opts-to-transfer-after-stellar-season-talks-potential-suitors/amp/?__twitter_impression=true ↗ I wonder why? Two year tie up of a scholarship for one year of services? Or will he play multiple (more) years?
Because he's a team cancer. Ballhog volume shooter whose percentages sucked and his parents were too involved. He would have gone pro if he could. My Virginia Tech friend is glad to see him go. VT should be better next year without him.
@approxinfinity said in 2020 Recruiting:
@dylans said in 2020 Recruiting:
It doesn’t look like the staff has reached out to Nolley II https://stockrisers.com/2020/03/16/landers-nolley-ii-opts-to-transfer-after-stellar-season-talks-potential-suitors/amp/?__twitter_impression=true ↗ I wonder why? Two year tie up of a scholarship for one year of services? Or will he play multiple (more) years?
Because he's a team cancer. Ballhog volume shooter whose percentages sucked and his parents were too involved. He would have gone pro if he could. My Virginia Tech friend is glad to see him go. VT should be better next year without him.
Mentioned in the transfer thread he seemed like a hollow stats guy. This all makes a lot of sense to me. Definitely a big no go for Bill.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Recruiting:
iTs OnLy AdIdAs https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28919170/christian-dawkins-details-ties-arizona-sean-miller-new-hbo-film ↗
Lawdamercy the JUICE in that article. Will Wade is a fuggin G.
Wondering , can anyone enlighten me tell me how this virus how the Virus might effect our recruiting process as far as early signing dates in Basketball & Football?
Welp. 🐦 View Tweet?s=21
Looks like Rutgers is dropping the bag for a top 50 player from Roselle Catholic. Just when you think 2020 can't get any more insane.
@dylans said in 2020 Recruiting:
@BShark Good for them I guess?
I hope our two top rated recruits from last season pan out. Enaruna and Wilson are both pretty rough for top 100 talent.
Just, um, surprising. Recent players from Roselle Catholic ended up at Oregon, LSU and UK iirc.
@BShark said in 2020 Recruiting:
@dylans said in 2020 Recruiting:
@BShark Good for them I guess?
I hope our two top rated recruits from last season pan out. Enaruna and Wilson are both pretty rough for top 100 talent.
Just, um, surprising. Recent players from Roselle Catholic ended up at Oregon, LSU and UK iirc.
More insane is transfers picking schools without even visiting
@BeddieKU23 what did I miss?
@BeddieKU23 Coronavirus?
@BShark said in 2020 Recruiting:
@BeddieKU23 what did I miss?
Alterique Gilbert picks Wichita
Kevin Marfo picks Texas A&M
Xavier nabbed 2 Grad Transfers
USC got 2 Grad Transfers
Just surprised at all these quick decisions, they can't visit. All they can do is talk to coaches
Looks like Donovan Williams gave up on hoping for a KU offer that wasn't coming.
@BShark said in 2020 Recruiting:
Looks like Donovan Williams gave up on hoping for a KU offer that wasn't coming.
We never offered ? - - - Why ?
@jayballer73 he sucks
@BShark said in 2020 Recruiting:
@jayballer73 he sucks
lmao , -- well alrighty then. Lol , don't hold nothing back then say what you really think lol. - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
He screamed “oh crap what if we lose Ochai” recruit. As it became clear he’s not going anywhere, Williams was not getting offered.
JT Thor committing tomorrow. Thinking Okie Lite
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Recruiting:
JT Thor committing tomorrow. Thinking Okie Lite
ya most likely
@FarmerJayhawk I heard somebody say auburn
Thor committed to Auburn
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Recruiting:
@Woodrow said in 2020 Recruiting:
Thor committed to Auburn
New Bruce same as the old Bruce
that surprises me actually
Funny money at auburn
Thor going to Aubs opened up a scholarship at OSU, which Donovan Williams took. Lol Bruce
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Recruiting:
Thor going to Aubs opened up a scholarship at OSU, which Donovan Williams took. Lol Bruce
Didn't realize they were full up. Could have sworn they had 3-4 spots open
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Recruiting:
Thor going to Aubs opened up a scholarship at OSU, which Donovan Williams took. Lol Bruce
Oh. My. God.
Kittens thought it was done to them.
Josh Christopher to ASU. Top 20 recruits going 15 different places. Going to be another year without many, if any, great teams.
@FarmerJayhawk bodes well for us I think.
Our old friend Isaiah Todd is going pro
@FarmerJayhawk never a doubt
Dodged a bullet there
Anselem reclassing to 20. Not that KU had a chance but this certainly makes that even more clear.
Jalen Green going G League. Glad we were never really involved there. RIP Penny and Memphis.
Jalen Suggs going as well would hurt Gonzaga a good deal
@jayballer73 said in 2020 Recruiting:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Recruiting:
Funny money at auburn
NA - - -SURELY NOT - - BRUCE lmao
The guy can flat out coach, but he likes to cheat too and is good at that also. Another thing he is good at? Sweating. He and Buzz Williams are neck and neck when it comes to sweating.
@Marco said in 2020 Recruiting:
@BShark Wasn't he the one that shot lights out from 3 (literally, because he certainly wasn't hitting the basket) when the staff went to see him play?
Yeah like 1-15.
Top ranked recruit going the G-League route and skipping college. His deal is worth a minimum of $500,000! plus he can get endorsements.
@Woodrow said in 2020 Recruiting:
Top ranked recruit going the G-League route and skipping college. His deal is worth a minimum of $500,000! plus he can get endorsements.
Good for him. Jalen and others like him should have this opportunity.
@BeddieKU23 what’s frank get? I don’t really know the rules there. Can u play there forever? Do they sign a yr contract?
This new program that the NBA has will likely give those that want it the chance to skip college and go to the G-League, get pro coaching and salary before being eligible for the NBA. Between that and overseas (particularly Australia), we could see a dozen or so top players skimmed off every year.
That means there probably won't be very many true "difference makers" coming into the college game each year. You don't get Andrew Wiggins, but you do get Wayne Selden. You probably won't see much clustering of talent, either. Without truly elite guys to build around, the complimentary guys won't have much reason to flock to the same school. I think that's what we are seeing.
With the drop off in talent, I would also expect more guys to stay for two years, rather than jump after one. The guys that can jump after one probably never show up. The NBA game and college game are just so much different from a pace and structure perspective.
And if the NCAA doesn't figure this out soon, they will be a relic of the past, too.
@justanotherfan I believe the top 20 players this year went to 15 different schools. Lines up with your point.
I've been for some rule changes to make college closer to the NBA. Always gets some people upset for some reason.
Frank had a 2 way contract. Havent easily found his salary for this yr. I see he has a 1.5 million cap hit for next season with the bucks.
@justanotherfan said in 2020 Recruiting:
This new program that the NBA has will likely give those that want it the chance to skip college and go to the G-League, get pro coaching and salary before being eligible for the NBA. Between that and overseas (particularly Australia), we could see a dozen or so top players skimmed off every year.
That means there probably won't be very many true "difference makers" coming into the college game each year. You don't get Andrew Wiggins, but you do get Wayne Selden. You probably won't see much clustering of talent, either. Without truly elite guys to build around, the complimentary guys won't have much reason to flock to the same school. I think that's what we are seeing.
With the drop off in talent, I would also expect more guys to stay for two years, rather than jump after one. The guys that can jump after one probably never show up. The NBA game and college game are just so much different from a pace and structure perspective.
And if the NCAA doesn't figure this out soon, they will be a relic of the past, too.
I think also with the way things are going to play out. NOW your going to see how really has that coaching talent/being able to develop players instead of the kid just playing off sure talent - - I think we are going to be just fine.
Seems like with the type of players Coach has gotten these last two-three years, he quite possibly saw around the corner and got a jump started recruiting good quality developmental players. - -players that rom lots of room to develop. Time to sit back and watch Coach/coach's work their magic. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I get changing rules if your trying to keep top talent I guess, but the nba is watered down basketball. They have limited time to get a shot off. It’s really one pick and roll with maybe 2 passes, at most, with a quick shot. Quality of basketball is better in college. There are more play designs, more teamwork, and pace is much better.
@jayhawks2010 said in 2020 Recruiting:
I get changing rules if your trying to keep top talent I guess, but the nba is watered down basketball. They have limited time to get a shot off. It’s really one pick and roll with maybe 2 passes, at most, with a quick shot. Quality of basketball is better in college. There are more play designs, more teamwork, and pace is much better.
I'm with you on all counts. The NBA doesn't even try to act like it wants to play D anymore. No D, all iso and three - bad basketball. That's why so many Europeans are being drafted, they have been coached and know how to play.
Strongly disagree. The quality of basketball in the NBA is the best in the world. Plenty of defense to go around but it is a long season and some guys take plays/games off.
@BShark Agree about the quality except one thing. The NBA is all about individual skill training. There is a lack of teaching and learning TEAM basketball. NBA teams do not practice a ton. As of today the majority of NBA players come to the NBA with some college which means they got at least one year of a coach teaching and preaching team basketball. Unless the g-league coaches teach more like a college team oriented way the team play will continue to get worse.
I actually think the only way team ball comes back in NBA is if you eliminate the corner 3. This will force more motion and screening to get open easy 2s. It would also bring back the want and need for a solid post guy. Not just a screen/3/rim runner like today.
@BShark they take an inordinate amount of plays off. If the season is so long - which it is - as to force you to put out a bad product then it is time for it to be shortened (which we know won't happen, cha-ching$). Anyway, agree to disagree, I think it's a bad product. It has been creeping in for about 10 years now, maybe longer. I think that it will eventually cost the NBA in terms of popularity.
Worth keeping tabs on if something weird happens. https://247sports.com/Player/Frank-Anselem-46055566/ ↗
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Recruiting:
Worth keeping tabs on if something weird happens. https://247sports.com/Player/Frank-Anselem-46055566/ ↗
Hopefully it doesn't come to that. Pass city
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/jaquan-scott-213158 ↗
This kid claims to be down to KU and New Mexico State. Can't see that we've offered. Walk-on maybe?
@BShark said in 2020 Recruiting:
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/jaquan-scott-213158 ↗
This kid claims to be down to KU and New Mexico State. Can't see that we've offered. Walk-on maybe?
Would have to be. No offer or OV. Solid walk-on if he picks us though. He’d be the 4th walk-on which is a lot but ¯_(ツ)_/¯. If he wants to hang around and try to earn some minutes, why not.
Here is the tweet fwiw: 🐦 View Tweet
Seems like he was being more seriously recruited then it fell off. I couldn't really find out why. Most recruiting articles on him are from 2018.
@BShark said in 2020 Recruiting:
Here is the tweet fwiw: 🐦 View Tweet
The pick will likely be New Mexico state
Kyree Walker finally going pro. LOL
Heh. 🐦 View Tweet?s=21
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Recruiting:
Kyree Walker finally going pro. LOL
:dizzy_face: :face_screaming_in_fear: long time for nothing, think it became widely known huh? - -I'm just I really don't know what to think about this G league & such. - I think it for sure is going to hurt the quality of play in College
The major difference between NBA and college is the skill level of the best players. Let's imagine that every player has a skill rating, like on video games. The best players in college basketball in any given year are probably in the high 70s or low 80s. Maybe every now and then you will get a guy in the mid 80s, but that's about it.
Within that structure, generally nobody is so much better than anyone else that it bends the defense in unnatural ways. Remember how Kevin Durant looked at Texas? He bent college defenses in ways that no one was prepared for. His team could be beaten, but no one could stop Durant. He was the rare guy in the mid to upper 80s.
Now think about the NBA. There are tons of guys with that type of skill level. Guys that were All Americans in college are role players in the NBA because other guys are just better. You make mistakes and people end up wide open for dunks and open threes. And in the NBA, they make you pay for that.
Would I like to see a shorter NBA season? Yes, but I think if that happens, it will end up crushing college hoops. If guys are only playing 5 times every 2 weeks, players will be fresher, which means they will play all out every night, like the playoffs, but all season long. And at that point, the quality of basketball is so much higher, there's just no comparison.
@justanotherfan the NBA is a bad product. What is killing it? The draft picks are no longer going to play college ball. They were once coached before they went to the NBA (hell, Jordan went 3 years! What about Magic and Bird?). Now, not so much... They have to be taught when they get there - bigtime hurting the product.
If you don't like the NBA, you aren't going to start liking the NBA, particularly if there is no college affiliation to draw interest.
But the coaching angle is of no consequence because the way the NBA is coached is so much different than college that it's irrelevant to go to college for that coaching.
The NBA is coached to create and exploit mismatches.
College is coached to run a system.
Systems don't consistently work in the NBA because the players are too good and too well prepared to just run plays or sets, particularly in the playoffs. In the playoffs you will notice opposing teams sometimes actually calling out the other teams plays based simply on the set they start in. That's the level of scouting, coaching and preparation the NBA has, so you can't rely on that type of coaching.
Instead, at the NBA level, you have to rely on getting guys into favorable matchups. Getting a bigger guy matched up on a smaller one. Getting a quick guy covered by a slow one. That's what is required, which is why you see so much emphasis on PnR to create the favorable matchup.
At the college level, they aren't emphasizing matchups because teams aren't as well scouted and the preparation isn't to that level. Instead, they focus on executing specific sets because you may only have one guy capable of exploiting a matchup advantage.
Take this year's KU team. The only guys that you consistently would have wanted to create mismatches for were Doke and Devon. For Doke, you wanted him one on one inside 5 feet. For Devon, you wanted him matched up with a slower guy in space. Other than that, though, you didn't want to create mismatches because other guys were less likely to capitalize on those.
Let's say that you had a guy like Doke that ended up with a smaller guy switched onto him, but he was 15 feet from the basket. Did Doke have the skill to punish that matchup immediately, before a team could switch? No. Could an NBA big man do that? Absolutely. They could catch that ball 15 feet from the basket and make one move to get into the paint, and either they get a dunk, or the defense scrambles to help and they end up with a wide open corner three, or a weakside cut for a dunk.
In the NBA getting a mismatch for tons of guys can result in a positive play. I could make a list of 50-75 players that can exploit one on one matchups regularly in the NBA. Probably couldn't point to 30 guys with that skill at the college level.
So you have the shift - in college you learn a system because the skill level isn't high enough to exploit a matchup. In the pros, you learn to create mismatches because the players are too good to try and just run even advanced sets against them consistently.
That difference means that college coaching doesn't do much to prepare guys for the NBA. If it did, you would see guys that played four years at the top programs becoming stars, which is a rare thing at this point.
As you say, they are taught when they get there. That is because its a shift in thinking. You can't just run this set or run that play because veterans will recognize that and snuff it out. You have to get into the set, and then know where to go in the free flow of the play. That has to be taught at the pro level because you can't learn that until you see how the initial actions (and the secondary actions, often) are taken away at the pro level, versus those actions being there at the college level. Many four year players from college take several years to get footing in the NBA because they have to relearn concepts based on matchups. Its not the X's and O's at the pro level. It comes down to, you rotate away from this guy because he's not a good shooter from 23 feet, but he can shoot from 19, so you rotate this far off him, versus, DO NOT LEAVE this guy, because its Steph Curry.
In college, its just the X's and O's. In the pros, it's WHO the X's and O's represent.
Appears our old friend Greg Brown may be going pro
Always thought that was where he was going
@FarmerJayhawk looks like Karim Mane did as well.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Recruiting:
Appears our old friend Greg Brown may be going pro
oh really? - I just thought he was going to end up at Texas - -good let him go pro, another G leaguer
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Recruiting:
Appears our old friend Greg Brown may be going pro
I prefer that over him going to Texas! He also has 300,000$ reasons to go pro.
@Woodrow said in 2020 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Recruiting:
Appears our old friend Greg Brown may be going pro
I prefer that over him going to Texas! He also has 300,000$ reasons to go pro.
And turned them all down to go to Texas. #StrongassOffer
Big Texas bags.
Texas 8-10 conference record with a OAD.
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Recruiting:
Texas 8-10 conference record with a OAD.
He is local so it's not that weird for him to end up there. 5 stars staying local does happen on a semi regular basis.
@BeddieKU23 Shaka always gets a star and then........
@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2020 Recruiting:
@BeddieKU23 Shaka always gets a star and then........
As if we've seen this movie play out before
No Different then Myles Turner & Jarrett Allen before him
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Recruiting:
No Different then Myles Turner & Jarrett Allen before him
Happens at Oklahoma as well occasionally when they produce a 5 star like Blake Griffin and Trae Young.
How many 5 stars have come from Kansas high schools, and how many played for KU?
Perry
Bol Bol was a 5 star, although he did not graduate from Bishop Miege.
N'Faly Dante was 5 star at Sunrise Christian (prep school in Wichita) last year.
I think Wayne Simien was the last 5 star from Kansas that graduated from a Kansas school and attended KU. KU doesn't consistently have 4 stars, let alone 5 stars instate.
We did have that kid from Ottawa. Should've got him?
So just Perry and Wayne?
5 star prospects from Kansas don't exactly grow on trees either
@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2020 Recruiting:
We did have that kid from Ottawa. Should've got him?
Semi Ojeleye was a 4 star. I think Perry was, too. He may have been a 5 star on some services. As @BeddieKU23 said, 5 stars don't grow on tress here in Kansas.
Mark Mitchell (c/o 22) is the next one. Don’t think he ends up here though.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Recruiting:
Mark Mitchell (c/o 22) is the next one. Don’t think he ends up here though.
Do you think it's due to the underbelly of recruiting or KU'S lack of interest or lack of ability to compete with what's going on
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Recruiting:
Mark Mitchell (c/o 22) is the next one. Don’t think he ends up here though.
Do you think it's due to the underbelly of recruiting or KU'S lack of interest or lack of ability to compete with what's going on
It’s early but I bet a program eventually places him at one of the prep powerhouses which would not be good for us.
I feel like Kansas just doesn’t have a ton of 5 star kids so if one goes somewhere else, we feel like there is something wrong. We’ve gotten 5 starts from other people’s backyards all the time, it just happens. I think our recruiting has been impacted recently with the adidas thing.
@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2020 Recruiting:
We did have that kid from Ottawa. Should've got him?
Semi Ojeleye had pretty strong KSU ties if I'm remembering correctly and played at MoKan when there was no relationship between them and KU because they are Nike. Christian Braun I believe was the first MoKan player KU has ever landed.
I don't recall KU even making an offer for Ojeleye because of his Nike ties.
Another local (KC Metro) 5 star KU never attempted to recruit was Willy Cauley-Stein partly because of character issues at the time and he was also another MoKan player.
Self's glowing remarks about Ellis, a five-star recruit rated the No. 24 player nationally by Rivals.com, show just how much the Jayhawks needed Ellis to stay home in the Sunflower State as a Jayhawk. KU did not sign a five-star prospect in the 2011 class, and the best player that signed, shooting guard Ben McLemore of St. Louis, is academically ineligible to play this season.
Read more here: https://www.kansas.com/news/article1077549.html#storylink=cpy ↗
@jayhawks2010 said in 2020 Recruiting:
I feel like Kansas just doesn’t have a ton of 5 star kids so if one goes somewhere else, we feel like there is something wrong. We’ve gotten 5 starts from other people’s backyards all the time, it just happens. I think our recruiting has been impacted recently with the adidas thing.
There's not and that's also including the KC Metro area. I believe the last consensus 5 star KU landed that would be considered a local prospect was Brandon Rush.
Since 2002, (as back as Rivals goes), KU has landed the following local players. By local, I'm referring to the state of Kansas and the KC Metro area.
2002: Jeff Graves 3* (Lee's Summit, MO)
2005: Brandon Rush 5* (KCMO)
2006: Brady Morningstar 3* (Lawrence, KS)
2007: Tyrel Reed 3* (Burlington, KS)
2008: Travis Releford 4* (Shawnee Mission, KS)
2012: Perry Ellis 5* (Wichita, KS)
2013: Connor Frankamp 4* (Wichita, KS)
2018: Ochai Agbaji 3* (KCMO)
2019: Christian Braun 3* (Burlington, KS)
If you look at the top players in Kansas most year, Sunrise Academy dominates that list so Kansas definitely doesn't produce much local basketball talent.
Tyon this year as a 4* as well. From KCK.
Remember when people killed Self for not landing Daishen Nix? Well he’s going pro 😂.
That is a big blow for Mick Cronin and UCLA. Sounds like his family needs money and he is taking it from the GL.
Soo , from everything I have heard we are full roster now for 2020 right ? -so if we are full then why do I keep hearing about possibilities for 2020 roster ? Is Coach & staff looking to squeeze someone out ?
Here is another possible situation. Mike Foster a 6'10 PF out of Hillcrest Prep is thinking about re-classifying to the class of 2020. - -Foster is the # 7 ESPN 60 player in the class of 2021. They are making comparisons of him to DeAndre Ayton & Marvin Bagley. - -Foster himself says he feels like he has some Durant in him
Here is the thing he won't be 17 until Feb - - -so whether if he re-classifies or not he has to stay for 2 years, as he is 2 yrs from being eligible for the NBA. - -He can't go G league as that league is for only kids who are finished with High School. So he be in College for 2 yrs.
Foster has been doing a lot of Zoom Calls has had Zoom Calls with Baylor , & Georgia and is probably going to be in a Zoom call with KU & Coach Self soon they said also a Zoom call with Illinois also Florida State & Michigan has been in contact several times. The player director said he is as good as Bagley was when he was there - -can get out and finish in traffic , has a really sweet jump hook - -Averaged 26 ppg & 13 rpg & 3 blocks per game this past season. - So are we really pursuing this kid? - sounds pretty sweet , but again if this is the case - -someone is getting the squeeze. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer73 said in 2020 Recruiting:
Soo , from everything I have heard we are full roster now for 2020 right ? -so if we are full then why do I keep hearing about possibilities for 2020 roster ? Is Coach & staff looking to squeeze someone out ?
Here is another possible situation. Mike Foster a 6'10 PF out of Hillcrest Prep is thinking about re-classifying to the class of 2020. - -Foster is the # 7 ESPN 60 player in the class of 2021. They are making comparisons of him to DeAndre Ayton & Marvin Bagley. - -Foster himself says he feels like he has some Durant in him
Here is the thing he won't be 17 until Feb - - -so whether if he re-classifies or not he has to stay for 2 years, as he is 2 yrs from being eligible for the NBA. - -He can't go G league as that league is for only kids who are finished with High School. So he be in College for 2 yrs.
Foster has been doing a lot of Zoom Calls has had Zoom Calls with Baylor , & Georgia and is probably going to be in a Zoom call with KU & Coach Self soon they said also a Zoom call with Illinois also Florida State & Michigan has been in contact several times. The player director said he is as good as Bagley was when he was there - -can get out and finish in traffic , has a really sweet jump hook - -Averaged 26 ppg & 13 rpg & 3 blocks per game this past season. - So are we really pursuing this kid? - sounds pretty sweet , but again if this is the case - -someone is getting the squeeze. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Foster isn’t a guy we can land at this point.
He thinks hes kobe too
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Recruiting:
He thinks hes kobe too
Lol at his coach comparing him to KD. Like stop
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Recruiting:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Recruiting:
He thinks hes kobe too
Lol at his coach comparing him to KD. Like stop
lol --no it's foster himself thinks he has some like Kd in him - -the Coach say Bagley & Ayton
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Recruiting:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Recruiting:
He thinks hes kobe too
Lol at his coach comparing him to KD. Like stop
Wow. I'm not surprised he definitely tries to play offense like hes gods gift
@jayballer73 said in 2020 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Recruiting:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Recruiting:
He thinks hes kobe too
Lol at his coach comparing him to KD. Like stop
lol --no it's foster himself thinks he has some like Kd in him - -the Coach say Bagley & Ayton
You right. My brain is mush. But I do love the fit if something materializes. Doesn’t really fill a need next year (although guys that talented are exactly common) but fills a huge need in 21-22. And would have a year in the system.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Recruiting:
@jayballer73 said in 2020 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Recruiting:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Recruiting:
He thinks hes kobe too
Lol at his coach comparing him to KD. Like stop
lol --no it's foster himself thinks he has some like Kd in him - -the Coach say Bagley & Ayton
You right. My brain is mush. But I do love the fit if something materializes. Doesn’t really fill a need next year (although guys that talented are exactly common) but fills a huge need in 21-22. And would have a year in the system.
Agree, he didn't really say just how serious he was thinking about the re-class never gave anything up one way or another. - - did have some nice stats thought 26/13/3. I would take that
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Seems fishy to me. Jake sometimes gets out over his skis. Last I heard (a couple days ago) we had our 13. But alas, things can change quickly in cruitin
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Oh my.
Oh man - take, take, take if we can... That someone would have to leave to make room there is no doubt. Perhaps Coach already knows that a roster spot is going to be open?
Frank Anselem to Syracuse.
@BeddieKU23 Yeah after looking at his tape I was pretty okay with KU not being in contention.
@BShark said in 2020 Recruiting:
@BeddieKU23 Yeah after looking at his tape I was pretty okay with KU not being in contention.
Came to the same conclusion
Jon Kuminga going pro.
Good for him I didn't give it much thought he'd actually go the college route
In case anyone cared Alex Tchikou reclassified and picked Alabama. Former KU target at one point
@BeddieKU23 Alabama has had decent recruiting over the last few years. Too bad for them it
