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I will check with him. He did mention recently he was excited about Kai Jones being there. He mentioned KU has kept tabs on him and they hope he waits until spring.

Lecque & Gafney (Ohio St signee), Joel Brown, Walker. Brewster loaded up again

2019 Recruiting • Aug 25, 2018 01:50 AM

@FarmerJayhawk

If true manns handler is steering this one. He has two blue blood offers, and most believe unc is done deal

2019 Recruiting • Aug 25, 2018 01:49 AM

Lacks the height part but def can shoot with pg skill

2019 Recruiting • Aug 24, 2018 08:00 PM

Bingo. McBride can make his way down..

2019 Recruiting • Aug 23, 2018 06:08 PM

jayballer73 said:

BeddieKU23 said:

@BShark

Welcome Back.

I can't see us taking McBride & Jacobs both, can you?.We could have 4 guys under the height of 6'2 battling for one position. Doesn't sound ideal? McBride would seem to indicate Dotson could be OAD? Concur?

I guess we could roll with two small guards again like the Frank/Devonte days. Just can't say that's ideal

I'm just wondering if Jacobs actually ends up coming. - his continues drop in rankings he hasn't signed anything just a verbal pledge right? Wonder if KU is still making contact? - At this point I almost feel I'd rather have McBride - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

I have no idea what will happen with Jacobs. It looks like he's been hit and miss since committing on the court. The recruiting services seem to be dropping him every update. Some players plateau developmentally. PG isn't a position of need if we assume Dotson returns for a 2nd season.

Between McBride & Jacobs you would have a great prospect if you could combine them into one. Jacobs athleticism and attitude with McBride's shooting ability and PG skills. After seeing the story on McBride, certainly sounds as if he impressed the boss man. You can see some BIFM in his game

2019 Recruiting • Aug 23, 2018 06:03 PM

I have a feeling the roster for next season (19-20) will look different then we can even project right now. The last time a roster looked so bare looking forward Self went out and snatched 3 transfers.. I think he'll see the lack of star power as well and find a way to hit a home run somewhere.

Hurt is a can't miss prospect for this years class. That much is clear.

2019 Recruiting • Aug 23, 2018 04:38 PM

Welcome Back.

I can't see us taking McBride & Jacobs both, can you?.We could have 4 guys under the height of 6'2 battling for one position. Doesn't sound ideal? McBride would seem to indicate Dotson could be OAD? Concur?

I guess we could roll with two small guards again like the Frank/Devonte days. Just can't say that's ideal

ANYONE WANT TO PREDICT.... • Aug 23, 2018 01:58 PM

this whole situation is extremely sad

2019 Recruiting • Aug 23, 2018 09:36 AM

From what I've seen there is no comparing the two. Wayne was a beast in high school and used his physical and athletic ability to overpower kids. He was also a top 10 player in his class.

Williamson plays the game completely different. He's a shooter, good in the mid-range. I think he reminds of Svi more then anyone at this stage. Good size (height) , will need to gain muscle to maximize his frame. Good athlete with some bounce, you see he can easily sky up for a lob or transition dunk. The word about him is he'll need some time, time to develop some toughness and dog to his game. Great 3-4 year player to get and appropriately ranked. Fills a huge need for a scoring wing

2019 Recruiting • Aug 22, 2018 11:01 PM

@Woodrow

Certainly sounds like that could happen

Coach's say KU " The Team " • Aug 22, 2018 06:54 PM

Bolden has dealt with injuries but it may be a case where his HS ranking was a bit inflated to his true ability. I haven't seen much from him that made him that coveted recruit a few years back.

He was good defensively for them on the trip but struggled offensively. The 5th starter in that lineup is definitely not an NBA player in waiting

Coach's say KU " The Team " • Aug 22, 2018 06:27 PM

Their 7 will get them a long ways most of the time.

Bolden/Delaurier is their weakest position, no post depth.

Perimeter shooting will be one of the biggest concerns for them as well. Their best shooter will come off the bench.

The 3 headed monster of Reddish, Barrett & Zion is scary if they mesh. That's 3 top 10 picks

Their PG missed the trip with injury. Some fans are a bit worried there because the backup is a 3 star recruit.

2019 Recruiting • Aug 22, 2018 06:20 PM

Kcmatt7 said:

@BeddieKU23 I think so too. But I feel like more and more you see #50 guys going somewhere they can get PT immediately. He'd be coming in and facing quite a bit of competition for minutes here I think.

That is true, you do see a lot of players ranked in that area going places they know they can start/contribute without much resistance.

We'll see what happens. We don't know what position Garrett will settle on just yet, I think that depends on how much he improves his shooting. Agbaji seems like a redshirt candidate so we are a year away from finding out anything significant with him. I think Self can sell playing time to a player like Williamson because he does have a strong midrange/perimeter game already with great size. There is a ton of scoring and talent leaving the program after this year. The sell should be pretty easy

Coach's say KU " The Team " • Aug 22, 2018 05:21 PM

Duke doesn't have the depth to sit Zion. This is a 7 deep roster. Past that they will struggle. They better hope he stays injury free which was an issue for him this past year.

Lebron is an appropriate comparison for him. It's truly amazing at his weight how athletic he is. Skies in the air for 1 hand rebounds. Dunks from the FT line. It's basically unheard of

2019 Recruiting • Aug 22, 2018 05:17 PM

@Kcmatt7

Williamson is a program player. Appropriately ranked I think. Right now he's probably the best bet we have with a wing.

Achiuwa is a wildcard, Norm has been consistent with him but it certainly feels like he won't leave the East.

Green & Stanley are real longshots. Staff has been in contact with Jeffries but who seriously doesn't think he's going to Memphis.

Williamson could really be the highest ranked wing KU has a chance with.

This isn't shaping up as a cycle we get to pick and choose from. A lot rides on Hurt and JRE here

2019 Recruiting • Aug 22, 2018 05:12 PM

That's good for Arthur though. Getting traded from a rising team to a terrible team isn't

Coach's say KU " The Team " • Aug 22, 2018 04:45 PM

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/24445390/ncaa-announces-new-ranking-system-rpi ↗

I'm just excited that the Champions game will be the first game so we don't have to stay up til 1 am listening to Dick Vitale

Coach's say KU " The Team " • Aug 22, 2018 04:44 PM

dylans said:

@BeddieKU23 Be that is it may, that’s still impressive. I don’t know if any of the current Kansas roster could carry that much of the scoring load, maybe Dedric. I really hope Duke’s freshmen play like freshmen in the tournament.

Grimes could, definitely Dedric.

Missing 3 guys definitely inflated their numbers, Barrett was out there jacking up shots like Kobe for parts of those games.

Zion showed a lot during that trip. He's the very definition of a freak athlete, generational type really. He also showed he's an elite rebounder. I saw plays where kids were afraid to get in front of him in transition. I can't say I blame anyone getting out of the way of an 280 pound manchild. He's the key to their season

2019 Recruiting • Aug 22, 2018 04:37 PM

@Kcmatt7

Not an exciting group if that's what's left after this year.

I think Dotson will get a combine invite. I hope we get at least two years from him.

We will need shooting. I see Williamson as a realistic target. Things have been quiet lately though on his front and Louisville has made a push under the new regime. They expect to host him on an official.

Hurt is a can't miss prospect in this class. Shooting next, then another big to go along with Hurt.

Not a lot of clarity on this class right now

RIP RPI, NET is here • Aug 22, 2018 04:22 PM

LOL

R.I.P. RPI.

The NCAA announced Wednesday it has developed the NCAA Evaluation Tool, known as NET, to replace the RPI as the primary sorting tool for teams under consideration for the NCAA tournament.

The change is effective immediately and NET will be used instead of RPI for the 2018-19 season.

NET will take into account game results, strength of schedule, game location, scoring margin, offensive and defensive efficiency and the quality of wins and losses.

"What has been developed is a contemporary method of looking at teams analytically, using results-based and predictive metrics that will assist the Men's Basketball Committee as it reviews games throughout the season," Dan Gavitt, senior vice president of basketball for the NCAA, said in a news release. "While no perfect rankings exist, using the results of past tournaments will help ensure that the rankings are built on an objective source of truth."

The RPI has been used since 1981 to help select and seed teams in the NCAA Division I men's basketball tournament.

NET rankings will be publicly available beginning in late November or early December, and updated daily through Selection Sunday, and then again after the NCAA tournament.

According to the NCAA, NET was developed with input from the Division I men's basketball committee, the National Association of Basketball Coaches, basketball analytics experts and Google Cloud Professional Services. The NCAA tested the model to predict the outcome of games.

The system won't give more weight to games late in the season, instead omitting game date and order from the data. It also caps the winning margin at 10 points to discourage teams from running up the score.

The quadrant system used on last season's NCAA tournament team sheets is still in place, with NET replacing RPI as the sorting tool. Team sheets will also still include other metrics, including ESPN's RPI and Strength of Record, as well as those from Kevin Pauga, Ken Pomeroy and Jeff Sagarin.

2019 Recruiting • Aug 22, 2018 03:12 PM

247 had an update to Rankings.

Commit:

Jacobs barely holds his 4 star status at #137

Top Targets

After a strong summer Hurt drops to #8.

JRE #18

Cole Anthony #2

Williamson #55

Targets:

Wiseman #1 (no chance)

Achiuwa #5

Josh Green #15

Tre Mann #23

Stanley #26

Zeke Nnaji #31

Cockburn #37

Kai Jones #53

Dj Jeffries #68

Lawson #89

Coach's say KU " The Team " • Aug 22, 2018 02:05 PM

@Statmachine

Duke was also short 2 starters and their 6th man. Zion and RJ were the only offense the entire trip

2019 Recruiting • Aug 22, 2018 11:17 AM

jayballer73 said:

BeddieKU23 said:

@jayballer73

I don't think Mann has a say in his recruitment it sounds. If UNC wants that baggage that's fine. More often then not those types end up having some kind of issue. If he comes here, I'll welcome him and hope he is as good as advertised. His shooting ability is something that we could really use

I'm not sure that he would be like a must get anyways. - I mean I just don't think Dotson & Moore are going any wear in 19 - -so they'll both be back. Dotson is quick as quick can be ----but he isn't a one and done by any means I think he is more like a 2-3 yr player - Moore will be a 4 year player - I just don't see the need. - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

We are going to need shooting. Grimes, Vick gone. Williamson is more a wing at this stage if we land him. Mann is a combo guard that is deadly off the dribble and one of the best shooters in the entire class. I have to think Mann fits a clear need. We have not seen Moore or Dotson prove their shooting just yet.

2019 Recruiting • Aug 22, 2018 11:14 AM

https://247sports.com/college/florida/Board/14/Contents/A-look-at-Tre-Mann-and-his-Crystal-Ball-with-North-Carolina-Florida-Tennessee-and-Kansas-120674455/ ↗

Do you have info to support that, or just a hunch? Not coming at you, I'm actually curious to see if you've heard something.

ETA- Sorry Bulls, I'm unfamiliar with your sources since we haven't really crossed path on these boards. It looks like the Florida posters have vouched for your sources. Glad to hear this as a UNC fan

Live in Gainesville, pretty close to this recruitment, would be very surprising if UNC isn't the pick, and soon. Only thing that prevents that is if his handler moves in another direction.

Listen, I know all the players in this recruitment, I also know his "handler" is telling people Tre may take some repeat visits. I am also aware of Rob Lanier's connection to Tre. All that said, he decided against committing in late July because he wants to go to a blue blood bball school and wanted those offers. Again unless his "handler" tells him he can't go to UNC, he'll be a Tar Heel.

2019 Recruiting • Aug 22, 2018 11:05 AM

@Gorilla72

A guy on the Florida board who seems to be pretty well connected said that Mann will commit to UNC on or shortly after his OV. The only way he won't end up at UNC is if Mann's mentor gets in the way here.

This off UNC's board. I'll track down Florida's comments. The Florida guy is well connected in AAU.

2019 Recruiting • Aug 22, 2018 10:52 AM

Gorilla72 said:

@BeddieKU23 - will you site this reference regarding Mann's recruitment? Thanks!

I'll find.

KU gets the last visit for Mann.

2019 Recruiting • Aug 21, 2018 06:05 PM

I don't think Mann has a say in his recruitment it sounds. If UNC wants that baggage that's fine. More often then not those types end up having some kind of issue. If he comes here, I'll welcome him and hope he is as good as advertised. His shooting ability is something that we could really use

2019 Recruiting • Aug 21, 2018 09:53 AM

Kai Jones still working through his recruitment. He did have this to say in regards to KU's interest or his interest..

The Jayahwks' staff watched Jones on the Under Armour circuit for a particularly impressive game. KU offered, and since that time, Jones has been in close contact with Norm Roberts, while his father has connected with KU coach Bill Self.

Asked if he'd consider taking a visit to KU — Jones has taken one visit so far, which was to Dayton — the No. 100-ranked player in the class of 2019 (No. 23-ranked power forward) wasn't ready to commit one way or another.

“That’s something I’m still talking about with my family," Jones said. "Still discussing it, as we are with a lot of schools.”

He's taken one visit to Dayton. Georiga Tech & TCU have all recently got into contact. Stanford & Texas have CB picks for him currently. Doesn't seem to be in a rush or have any favorites currently.

2019 Recruiting • Aug 21, 2018 09:50 AM

Tre Mann will host KU for an in-house visit and then visit KU on Sept 21st.

It was looking like KU backed away on his recruitment after he was all set to pick Tennessee from his 'top 3'. Sifting through Florida and UNC sites you find out he has a handler that's steering his recruitment and it was seeming Mann was set to commit to UNC in the coming months after they offered and he re-opened his recruitment. I guess it doesn't hurt to get him on campus and see if anything changes. He definitely fits the profile of player that we need in next years class

2019 Recruiting • Aug 20, 2018 06:38 PM

jayballer73 said:

BeddieKU23 said:

@jayballer73

Hurt is still the most coveted recruit at the position JRE plays. He's better then JRE and a more versatile scorer.

JRE going to IMG wasn't good for KU, it was good for JRE as a player but it definitely opened the door for UNC with Green/Bacot in his ear. KU will get their shot, hopefully the last visit. I can't see Self losing this one but who knows what JRE wants for himself. The move to IMG certainly foreshadows he's okay leaving home.

I still don't believe offering Nnaji was in any way connected to JRE. JRE's recruitment is months away from being finished. Normally this would matter if a kid was close to deciding. Lots of kids across the country got offered in the past weeks since the dead period went into effect. Staffs had time to meet and put together evaluations and decide on what they wanted to do.

I hope your right. -you are right for sure about not being good for KU with him going to IMG - gonna have Bacot AND Green on him every day. - Agree again I think Hurt is much more valuble - and I think we sit in a much better spot with him then with Earle, if you were to of ask me that a couple of months ago - - maybe not so much.

I just feel that we may be losing ground with Earle. - I also still have to think , hope I'm wrong but this is where we differ maybe some I DO feel that Nnaji's late recruitment does possibly have something to do - we went so long and nothing on this kid , and then all a sudden BAM. -we might have been looking at him but hadn't offered , then with UNC entering the picture as strongly as they are all of a sudden we DO offer. true could be an insurance backup I've got this feel he has become that insurance backup because staff feels either we might be losing out on Earle OR Hurt. - -Could be wrong - -probably wrong but I'll feel a lot better when he commits. - Hurt is much better , but really want Earle if for nothing more then rebounding purposes - very strong. - - one of UNC'S thought process is now with them landing Bacot that Roy can promise Earle that he won't be forced into playing the five - - we will find out fairly soon as he wants to commit in the fall. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

We'll see if Green ends up at UNC as the recent buzz suggests. JRE and him are close so that's what we have to watch for in terms of the IMG thing. Bacot is meaningless in this situation I think but I'm sure people will try and make that one a bigger issue then it is.

I don't think KU has lost any ground at all. It looks that way because he hasn't committed and there's actually another blue-blood program with a connection trying to get him. For almost 3 years now its been widely speculated he was untouchable from KU. The fact he's open to hearing other programs makes the narrative change.

Self got to coach him this summer which is still the biggest advantage any other coach has in this. If JRE wasn't sold on Self then, its not meant to be. What else can a coach do at that point?

I would have loved for this recruitment to be over this already but how often do things go according to what fans think/want. It seems every KU recruit drags it out and we spend months, sometimes years waiting for anything to actually happen.

2019 Recruiting • Aug 20, 2018 04:49 PM

Hurt is still the most coveted recruit at the position JRE plays. He's better then JRE and a more versatile scorer.

JRE going to IMG wasn't good for KU, it was good for JRE as a player but it definitely opened the door for UNC with Green/Bacot in his ear. KU will get their shot, hopefully the last visit. I can't see Self losing this one but who knows what JRE wants for himself. The move to IMG certainly foreshadows he's okay leaving home.

I still don't believe offering Nnaji was in any way connected to JRE. JRE's recruitment is months away from being finished. Normally this would matter if a kid was close to deciding. Lots of kids across the country got offered in the past weeks since the dead period went into effect. Staffs had time to meet and put together evaluations and decide on what they wanted to do.

2019 Recruiting • Aug 20, 2018 09:57 AM

@Woodrow

Nike influence there. Oregon and Purdue have done a good job on him but Izzo may have turned the tide here. KU never really pressed for him so this was expected, at least he's not window dressing KU on his list

Dam guys somebody • Aug 17, 2018 08:35 PM

@FarmerJayhawk

Getting 2 of the 3 would be considered an unbelievable accomplishment. I dont think getting all 3 is possible without convincing JRE or Nnaji that they are a 5 in his offense. The good thing is Hurt played with JRE successfully and hopefully both were happy with the roles they had.

Dam guys somebody • Aug 17, 2018 08:30 PM