HighEliteMajor said:
And by the way, we've had these NCAA discussion before. I've laid out facts and (respectfully) destroyed the other arguments offered here repeatedly. Not based on what one "feels" about things, but based on logic and facts. Folks don't want the colleges to make and enforce their own rules. They fail to recognize that the colleges are "owners". They own the product, the contracts, the arenas/facilities, the logos, and everything else. But that doesn't matter. Folks don't like the NCAA rules. They fail to recognize the unavoidable problems with massive enforcement (similar to regular law enforcement -- you can't catch everyone). They whine about enforcement when rules are clearly broken. They fail to recognize without rules there is chaos. They say they want a better system but don't have one to offer. They fail to realize that a path away from the NCAA model is a path to professional basketball. They fail to realize that without the NCAA making billions other sports will go away -- scholarships for thousands of athletes from rowing to golf to volleyball to track. Sports that can't support themselves (and literally every females sport).
The irony is that the whiner's position on this wants to destroy the NCAA for the benefit of a very select few men's CB and FB players to detriment of the massive numbers of other athletes. Ironic. Isn't the scholarship and the education of the massive numbers of athletes in all sports the goal here? Educational welfare funded by men's CB and FB. And there are complaints based on the elite athletes not getting more?
It's a joke.
It's ironic because those that push this position, motivated by support for the poor black athlete, in turn will harm multiple more poor black athletes. Sound familiar? I mean, that's leftist politics. They want so badly to help that their solutions cause more harm than good and create cyclical harm. But we know that. Look at our cesspool inner cities run by conservatives -- uh, no, run by leftists. Almost exclusively by leftists. Our idiot mayor in KC spent 8 years blaming inanimate objects for the continued violence and not the people that commit the crimes. Nothing changed. But that's a leftist. That's evidence. We've had this debate before and it always leads down the same path. And I always win.
It's whine that gets obliterated.
I hold literally none of these positions but good try. Might report you for violence against straw men. Also, just declaring victory yourself doesn't make it true. I can say the Earth is flat until I'm blue in the face but that doesn't me any less wrong.
I actually do have a reform plan and it comes from discussions with student-athletes, coaches, and administrators. Curious, how many experts on the NCAA have you actually talked to about the issues and how to make them better? Because almost to a person they'll say the current system is broken and offer up ideas on how to fix it. If you don't like those ideas, fine, we can have a discussion about it. But saying we all don't have any ideas for reform is total garbage and I suspect you know that.
"The rules are good because they exist" is a pretty shortsighted position. You discuss enforcement, but the NCAA can't enforce the rules it has, doesn't follow its own precedents, and can't address, by its own admission, the very serious issues it faces (e.g. sexual violence, NIL legislation).
So here's an outline of the plan, informed by discussions with stakeholders and my own knowledge of institution building (I have a report coming out reforming the UNC BoG supported by some legislators and senior campus folks):
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The entire governance model isn't working. Emmert (and probably everyone else) is incapable of running the show alone. Hire smart, specialized people to oversee individual sports since they have their own issues, sort of like a commissioner. For example, Tom Osborne would've been a great football commish after hanging out in Congress.
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Break up the NCAA into different governing bodies (e.g. P5, D2), each with the ability to make its own rules. It makes little sense for LSU to play by the same rules as Sam Houston State. Smaller schools struggle in fielding some teams and providing sufficient amounts of aid under NCAA rules. Bigger AD's are drowning in cash and should be liberated to spend it. Division 1 is much too large, especially in basketball. A few demotions would be beneficial for all parties.
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Give the leagues more power and seats at the table. They drive the bus economically, so bring them in to adjust rules they feel need changing.
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The NCAA generally uses an ad hoc committee structure and doesn't work to anyone's timeline but their own. We need more formal committees comprised of a more diverse set of stakeholders around a different set of issues. For example, we need a committee to work on NIL issues and has authority to write and submit a proposal to the leagues and institutions for approval.
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More checks and balances. A majority of college CEO's should be able to veto NCAA legislation. This would give more power directly to the schools, whose interests don't always align with the NCAA's. Currently, it takes a near unanimous vote to mandate reconsideration or suspension of a rule. This is far too restrictive.
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The NCAA should get out of the investigation business. It's shown its entirely incapable of gathering facts and enforcing penalties in a uniform manner when it tries to do it in-house. Plenty of firms are specialists in this exact thing. Along these lines, appeals should be handled by independent bodies with zero affiliation with the NCAA or member institutions.
All these would fix a lot of the perverse incentives the NCAA has today, significantly improve SA welfare, and make the governing bodies and leagues much more responsive to issues as they come up.
