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JRE is one of the best rebounders in the class. Hurt can grab his share as well.

@Kcmatt7 see the Morrii for examples.

BShark said:

@dylans Great idea. Thanks.

Sorted into likelihood of coming to KU imo

Snowballs in hell, #FreeVisit etc...

Wiseman

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No idea how seriously KU is recruiting them

Wood

Walker

Berry

Nnaji

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Fair shot

JRE

Stanley

Chandler

J. Lawson

Thompson

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McBride

Move JRE to hash tag # fire emoticon. It’s waaaaaay too early to rank 2020 guys, unless you know better than they do where they’re going. KU isn’t serious about many 2020 guys at all yet. Nnaji will likely wait until spring. Some blue blood (KU, UK) or high tier program (IU, blah blah) will probably have a spot left and will duke it out then. Still think Lawson ends up at Memphis.

@Kcmatt7 what’s the thinking? 2020 is a loooong way off.

Not a big deal on Hampton IMO. He came last year and still can come back for another official next fall or for a game. Doesn’t bother me that he wants to watch his friends play football.

BShark said:

FarmerJayhawk said:

BShark said:

Damn, that sucks. KU had really better close on their top post targets.

We won’t. For what it’s worth, word around Chapel Hill is UNC still thinks KU leads after JRE’s visit. I think there’s a real chance we get a commitment (silent or not) this weekend.

Eh? Did you mean will close? I would assume JRE and Hurt are the top targets.

We won’t miss

This is what Fran meant when he said we were going to play bully ball. Buckle up.

BShark said:

Damn, that sucks. KU had really better close on their top post targets.

We won’t. For what it’s worth, word around Chapel Hill is UNC still thinks KU leads after JRE’s visit. I think there’s a real chance we get a commitment (silent or not) this weekend.

@Kcmatt7 depends on the kid really. It hooked Jo and Wayne immediately. I think we also get a lot of guys who want to see the spectical for an official but don’t really have serious interest in KU.

@Crimsonorblue22 no sir. I’m working on a Ph.D. in a field totally unrelated to spirts at an institution not in Kansas. I still have a lot of friends at KU in different capacities.

Yup. Beaty let it slip during Hawk Talk. The marketing folks at KUAD filmed a video with Bill and had a splashy announcement planned for this week but now the cat’s out of the bag. Oops.

@BShark great pickup for them. Love Rocket’s game.

Reed was an absolute freak show athlete at KU. Easily the best when he was an underclassman.

Agbaji is going to have a Releford type career before it’s all said and done. He can play and is a really smart kid. Braun is still so young that there’s a long way to go before he even gets to KU. I think he’s around 6’6 now. It’ll be hard to put weight on him until he’s done growing. I could see him being Tyrel Reed by the time he’s done.

Matt Scott’s podcast over there is probably the best thing they have going. They still employ Keegan so not like their standards are that high.

@Kcmatt7 I think UCLA is the favorite. He loves LA and his mom went there. We’ll have a better idea after Late Night.

Boom

@BShark WELL DONE

Meanwhile Dook is about to whiff on all their “locks.” Lmaoooooooooooo. Speaking of, guess who we get in the Champions Classic in 2019?

I’m sticking to my prediction of a list.

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

@FarmerJayhawk Why do you say UCLA?

He’s got family connections there (his mom ran track I think?) and it’s the only school he’s visited. Always tough to pull west coast kids to Kansas.

We’ll see! If he does it’s UCLA

We’ll be on the list 😏

Just that SC and Stanley are “drifting apart.” My opinion, though not entirely speculation, is cutting his list.

Just an educated guess. I think Stanley cuts to 4.

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BShark said:

Kcmatt7 said:

Well I won't be mad adding a developmental PG. Perfect time to add one if we don't think Dotson is going to be here 4 years.

There is almost no chance Dotson is a 4 year guy.

Scenario: open scholarship, Vick graduates, Dedric, Grimes, Doke and Silvio all leave early.

Dream class: Braun, McBride, Stanley, Chandler, JRE, Hurt.

And feel free to sub Kai Jones for JRE or Hurt.

McBride, Braun and Stanley is a nice group for the perimeter. Stanley comes in and starts at the 2G replacing Grimes while McBride and Braun don't mess up the minutes for incumbent playes and can take time to develop. I really really like McBride assuming he keeps developing.

As of today I think that’s a realistic scenario, just swap Silvio and Chandler. We’ll get a lot better feel on a couple guys after Late Night. There’s always the Wiseman pipe dream too.

jayballer73 said:

FarmerJayhawk said:

@jayballer73 KU got the first official visit for Late Night and the staff feels like they have a legit shot.

Oh ok. that's good I guess, at least we are one of the Five - -I dunno there are times I think it would almost be better to have the last visit. That way we would be the freshest in his mind - -leave that lasting impression. - - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Coaches always want the first or last. The first because they get to set the bar for other visits. Self especially loves it because KU consistently puts on the best official visits. And like you said, being last may bias a kid your direction (recency bias).

@jayballer73 KU got the first official visit for Late Night and the staff feels like they have a legit shot.

dylans said:

So is Stanley the assumed reason Williamson didn’t sign?

We would’ve definitely taken them both, to replace Grimes and Vick

Told you all KU was more of a player for Stanley than given credit for 😏

The kid is still growing too. There’s a good chance he’ll end up anywhere from 6’7 to 6’9

Ehhh not really.

I’ve heard rumors about what went down but nothing I’m willing to say publicly yet.

Going to end up being a steal, like Ochai. Long term could work out great.

Braun is better than Lightfoot at the same stage. He’s not much of a downgrade from Williamson tbh. Just as good a shooter (better from 3), better ball handler, better rebounder. Probably not quite the athlete or defender yet.

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

Apparently Self was in to see Braun in-home last night. Things might be escalating quickly here.

ding ding

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BShark said:

FarmerJayhawk said:

Wing wasn’t a huge need anyway. Williamson wouldn’t have even started if KJ was still around. Ochai has been really impressive so far as well. Come on down, Braun.

If KJ was still around? Is he confirmed leaving or something? I figured there is a good chance he will be back.

Ochai is going to be a dude.

Oops. Typo. Damn autocorrect.

Wing wasn’t a huge need anyway. Williamson wouldn’t have even started if KJ was still around. Ochai has been really impressive so far as well. Come on down, Braun.

Ok, since you really need it spelled out, he made 3 bowl games in 5 years. If he made a bowl game 60% of the time he was at KU he’d have a statue in front of Memorial.

I wouldn’t talk about standards since hiring a coach with one winning season prior to KU and then going 5-19 at KU isn’t given “enough time.” If by don’t care you mean unequivocally think Petrino should’ve been canned, you’re dead on.

@Texas-Hawk-10 Like I said. We’re not going to convince each other about Petrino so by all means keep wasting your time typing about him.

His second year he went 7-6 and won a bowl game and improved by 4 games. Year 3 was another improvement. If you expect Arkansas to regularly beat Alabama, Auburn, and LSU I guess that’s your deal.

No, I said it exactly like I meant it. Gill got worse each year he was here. Where is all the success at Buffalo? He was over .500 exactly one year out of 4, and they got worse when his players were seniors. At a level nowhere close to the SEC. Equating success in the SoCon with the Big 12 isn’t a great idea. Liberty gets a very different type of player than KU, and Gill has never showed the flexibility to adapt his program to the players he gets.

Kcmatt7 said:

And whoever we hire next needs to be given a 10 year deal, that basically handucuffs us to them.

Ummm what the actual hell

Texas Hawk 10 said:

@FarmerJayhawk Bielema would be a terrible hire for Kansas. Bielema is why Jeff Long was fired from Arkansas in the first place. Aside from that, Bielema didn't make Arkansas any better and the Hogs finished in last in the SEC west 3 out of his 5 years and only finished in the top half of the division once.

Bielema didn't build Wisconsin, he inherited that. What he took over at Arkansas is much closer to what he'd have to do at KU and he failed to make Arkansas better.

On top of that, from a PR perspective (very important here because of the fundraising needed for the stadium), how do you justify hiring a coach at your new school that is the reason you were fired as an AD from your previous school?

At the end of the day, Jeff Long was fired from Arkansas for the same reason Zenger was fired from KU. Long hired two football coaches that had to be fired, granted Petrino was not fired for non field issues but was still fired nonetheless, and wasn't trusted to make a third hire.

This is why I'm still not totally sold on Long as KU's AD because there is something flawed in his ability to evaluate football coaches. He ignored character issues with Petrino and ignored that Bielema was not a cultural fit at Arkansas at all and that their boosters were never fully behind Bielema.

Arkansas has been good to great at a lot of other sports under Long, but the bottom line is that Long was hired to fix the football program and his track record of football hires is not very impressive. That worries me about who he'll hire at KU.

We've been over this but since you insist on relitigating it we can. Petrino took Arkansas to incredible heights. If you insist on hiring AD's who will only hire coaches who will never have off the field issues, go be a fan of Liberty.

Since, as you assert, Petrino left Arkansas in a smoldering crater, you ought to take that into account and discount at least the first year. He was more than respectable 3/4 years after that. It's pretty inconsistent on your part to forgive one guy taking over a dumpster fire (Gill) and admonish another (Bielema). Gill was worse each year he was at KU, so what's the difference? For all you know Gill would've been worse than Gill and canned anyway. If Gill would've had even remotely the success at KU that Bielema had at Arkansas he would have a statue here. Just admit you don't have any real criteria other than getting to complain and move on with life.

Zach Harvey moving back to 2020. Too early to tell if KU will pick things back up.

Crimsonorblue22 said:

@FarmerJayhawk I've heard he's interested, but my son says we wouldn't hire a guy unless he's been a d-1 coach. I also wanted John ontjes (hcc) women's B.B. coach to get the ku B.B. coach. I swear his teams could beat Ku's.

I think that’s the plan. I’d love to hire Miles or Bielema. But there are some G5 coaches who could be legit too

They tend to, just like kids from the northeast tend to stay there. Roy had great success in getting kids from out there though.

I’m ok with allowing more games, but not lifting travel restrictions. Unless you’re a private school, you’re not going to be able to afford the additional travel costs and it’s not a good idea to have that level of academic disruption for 15-17 year old kids. You’re really just asking for the gap between wealthy and poor districts to grow even wider, when it’s already a big problem in Kansas.

I’ve been on the Littrell train for quite awhile. Love his pedigree and winning at UNT is not easy. Long can get guys to Lawrence we didn’t even consider 4 years ago. We have strong leadership and money. Those things can get about anyone.

@Crinsonorblue22 Morrell won’t get considered for any real job. He’s done with coaching from what I’ve heard.

Absolute stud. I can easily see him having a good enough year to get drafted.

KU is leading for Hurt. He may wait until spring but KU can lock him down when he visits for a game.