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Welcome Back Devonte • Jan 10, 2017 06:12 PM

@jaybate-1.0 you still don't have proof and can't provide minute markers. I don't watch the MSM but apparently you watch some of them as you have no idea how to provide evidence to your theories and just say how inept everyone else is. When I was in writing class in college, my teacher would have given me an F on a paper that I didn't provide evidence for - evidence for a claim is what its called. You can look it up on Google.

I don't know what the "bad old days" were, but if those days were asking people to provide a reason for their belief and show where the other team is clearly forcing someone left when no one else sees it, then I guess these are the bad days.

PS - You really think I rely on the MSM and their talking points? LOL!!!!!

Welcome Back Devonte • Jan 10, 2017 06:03 PM

@Kcmatt7 great post!

Welcome Back Devonte • Jan 10, 2017 06:17 AM

@jaybate-1.0 of course, when you attribute everything to injuries you are bound to get a couple right.

Dude, we all know guys get nicked up. I did too as a player. Even Captain Obvious knows that.

No one is getting stressed out. What we can't understand is why you don't provide specific instances to prove your point about something as specific as a "pretty clearly hyperextended elbow". If you see something, give us a minute marker.

No one minds you suggesting it is an injury. Again, the problem is no one else sees what you see and when we ask for proof, you say we are mad and upset. You clearly avoid providing evidence. I won't believe it just because someone says it.

Sam Cunliffe is a Jayhawk • Jan 10, 2017 01:26 AM

@mayjay My post is really in response to the Selby types that cant get to the league soon enough and completely miss the opportunities they cant get back. The money will always be there - but once you leave, you cant do it over again.

Sam Cunliffe is a Jayhawk • Jan 10, 2017 01:24 AM

@mayjay really? I thought he was gone. Oops I read the wrong article.. (sarcasm of course)

Sam Cunliffe is a Jayhawk • Jan 10, 2017 01:20 AM

@Bosthawk doesn't make sense does it? Every game is televised, play at the cathedral of all basketball, play on a top 5 team, have a chance to go to the final four and win the national championship and be mentioned as one of the all time greats - I don't know why anyone would pass that up. No amount of money he can make in the NBA can give him that experience. Totally baffling.

Baylor's Short Stay At The Top • Jan 09, 2017 11:53 PM

@Crimsonorblue22 I'll take that. I bet they will be fired up for that one

Some misc, possible concerns: • Jan 09, 2017 11:47 PM

@Lulufulu I like the comparison to the 2012 runner up team. The short bench forced only a seven man rotation but the chemistry and feel that those guys had was outstanding and they reaped the benefits at the end of the year. This team's A game is not until February and March, which is what we want. I think people view this team as overrated and not on the same level as Kentucky and UCLA, which is fine, but that is because there was little cohesiveness at the beginning of the year. I mean, how much better are those other top teams going to be? Our guys need to keep being nitpicky about their play and focus on doing better every game. Just like last year, this team will steadily improve its chemistry, defense and overall synergy which will help us down the road.

Welcome Back Devonte • Jan 09, 2017 08:39 PM

@mayjay great point. We saw the senior leadership of the Arch and Ochefu last year. We need that this year and we need Devonte to step up and not be a spectator like what he normally does.

Baylor's Short Stay At The Top • Jan 09, 2017 08:25 PM

@benshawks08 not many people think that. We all know Failor is a very talented team. Many think they are ripe for an upset because they could have easily lost two in a row at home to teams not named West Virginia and Kansas.

Baylor's Short Stay At The Top • Jan 09, 2017 08:21 PM

@drgnslayr it is a real possibility that Baylor goes 0-2 this week.

Some misc, possible concerns: • Jan 09, 2017 08:07 PM

@JayHawkFanToo yeah the league is a lot tougher than college. They even have road trips with games on back to back nights. Our guys are fine

Welcome Back Devonte • Jan 09, 2017 07:57 PM

@RockChalkRedlock excellent example of Devontes dunk. He is fine

Welcome Back Devonte • Jan 09, 2017 07:52 PM

@Kcmatt7 exactly. It felt like a wild goose chase for injuries. Nothing is wrong with him

Baylor #1 in AP poll • Jan 09, 2017 07:40 PM

@KUSTEVE I agree

Welcome Back Devonte • Jan 09, 2017 08:47 AM

@jaybate-1.0 I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

Welcome Back Devonte • Jan 09, 2017 05:50 AM

@drgnslayr you might be right about the team not having a leader. You mentioned common symptoms of a March loss - bad calls cant be controlled but our play should not be determined by the zebras. Turnovers and missed shots can certainly hurt even if we dont have a leader or floor general.

Most of Devonte's issue is plain standing around and being a spectator. This team is so much better when he is active and looking to make plays.

Does not having a vocal leader affect how we play in March? Probably. But if Devonte decides he doesnt want to be that guy or is unaware of the importance of such a person and that he is the man for the job, then there isnt anything anyone can do about that. We just have to hope that everyone on the team is locked in to what they need to do and accomplish. That is the only thing that can counteract the lack of a floor leader.

Fran Makes Monumental Flub Up.... • Jan 09, 2017 05:15 AM

@Texas-Hawk-10 yes but thats basketball related AND HE'S RIGHT! Players dont utilize it nearly enough

Fran Makes Monumental Flub Up.... • Jan 09, 2017 02:51 AM

@ralster agreed - I honestly don't know why nobody likes Knight. My dad and I always enjoyed listening to him do our games. Like you said, he provided a genuine, no nonsense coach's perspective to the games. Really unfortunate

Welcome Back Devonte • Jan 09, 2017 02:47 AM

@jaybate-1.0 I would love for you to explain "pretty clearly hyper extended". "Pretty clearly" indicates a "no doubt about it, everyone agrees on it" idea or concept. It is normal for teams to force right handed guys left to make them prove they can be effective with it, as well as to force them outside of the lane, How often have we heard over the years from the announcers "They need to force him to go left". Yet after I watched it again I didn't see any blatant example of forcing Devonte to go left outside of the situations I just described. Before you said his elbow injury is the reason for his poor shooting. Now he has had some nice shooting games recently. I rewatched the game and don't see the things you are seeing. Please provide points of reference that clearly show and identify an injury,

Welcome Back Devonte • Jan 09, 2017 01:10 AM

@dylans the thing is, you dont have to get 5 steals a game to play stifling lock down D. Keeping the other team from driving into the lane any time they want to is what our perimeter players need to focus on. Same problem as last year.

Welcome Back Devonte • Jan 09, 2017 01:07 AM

@approxinfinity not at all being humorous. You dont think that an additional perimeter player to give Frank and Devonte an extra two minutes of rest before a tv timeout would be nice? Plus he was a good rebounder and three point shooter. His attitude was his main problem

Welcome Back Devonte • Jan 09, 2017 12:59 AM

@approxinfinity ah ok. I thought I missed something. Thanks

Welcome Back Devonte • Jan 09, 2017 12:54 AM

@approxinfinity what would really have helped is if Greene would have stayed.

Welcome Back Devonte • Jan 09, 2017 12:52 AM

@approxinfinity frank and devonte are injured? When did this happen? What is injured?

@DoubleDD I'd say kU is the closest comparison to the Warriors - nobody else really is similar

@DoubleDD yeah they remind me a lot of the Warriors.

@DoubleDD I am enjoying it, but I know not to get too excited about home wins. I want to see this team win at Iowa State and West Virginia before I consider them a final four/championship contender.

@DoubleDD I guess I don't know why people are thinking I am upset and disappointed? If tonight's game is all you expect, thats fine. I am just expecting more because I know they can play better D.

I always enjoy watching the games despite your opinions.

@DoubleDD yes because that means our defense didn't allow anything easy and made them shoot tough shots every time down the floor. I never said I was unhappy about tonight - I only said that tonight would not have gotten the job done in the sweet sixteen.

@DoubleDD in order to improve at something and achieve a higher level of success (final four), you have to have expectations that fit the goal. This type of performance tonight would not have won a sweet sixteen game. Just like last year, I think they will improve enough to get there.

@stoptheflop I thought the same thing. Still more work to be done

Defense a little better tonight.

@stoptheflop yep. Called overhelping. Does Self teach them to do that?

@BShark their issues are all mental - no physical disadvantage

Sam Cunliffe is a Jayhawk • Jan 07, 2017 11:32 PM

@JayHawkFanToo I agree. That was the time to go. I am fine if he decides to leave after a final four run, though.

Sam Cunliffe is a Jayhawk • Jan 07, 2017 11:08 PM

@BeddieKU23 has Bill come out and said Devonte is gone? Unless he picks up his play, he will be back.

Sam Cunliffe is a Jayhawk • Jan 07, 2017 10:48 PM

@Hawk8086 if that's the case, why don't we have a point guard commitment right now?

Well latest NBA projections • Jan 07, 2017 10:15 PM

@JayHawkFanToo we can only hope Self was careful to avoid getting two recruits in a row with eligibility issues.

Sam Cunliffe is a Jayhawk • Jan 07, 2017 09:50 PM

If Devonte leaves and Trae comes, who else is available for point guard? Seems like we need one more.

Sam Cunliffe is a Jayhawk • Jan 07, 2017 09:47 PM

@BShark I believe it - Newman was highly recruited and the extra year of practice will do wonders. Dang, if we get Trae Young we will be loaded and the front court will be dynamite.

Sam Cunliffe is a Jayhawk • Jan 07, 2017 09:43 PM

@BShark it would be nice to get either Svi or Devonte back. Devonte and Trae Young would be awesome

Sam Cunliffe is a Jayhawk • Jan 07, 2017 09:41 PM

@BeddieKU23 I am glad there are no restrictions because now he has a chance to get acclamated to the system like BMac and Newman

Sam Cunliffe is a Jayhawk • Jan 07, 2017 09:39 PM

Now we need Trae Young. Any word on when he is announcing?

Sam Cunliffe is a Jayhawk • Jan 07, 2017 09:34 PM

Are there any practice restrictions?

Sam Cunliffe is a Jayhawk • Jan 07, 2017 09:31 PM

Great news. Lets hope more good news is on the way

TCU vs WVU • Jan 07, 2017 08:36 PM

@Hawk8086 yeah he was on the struggle bus -six turnovers IIRC

TCU vs WVU • Jan 07, 2017 07:46 PM

Close game right now. TCU has a lot of silly turnovers that will cost them the game. Our guys just need to avoid the careless mistakes and we'll be fine

Trae Young • Jan 07, 2017 07:28 PM

@Texas-Hawk-10 I know - I'm talking about in his one year

Trae Young • Jan 07, 2017 06:25 PM

@Lulufulu Selbys injury was the issue