@Crimsonorblue22 Ridiculous excuses. Again, what some still insist on doing here -- the simplistic explanation.
You seriously bring up Embiid? Yet coach Self's game plan, without Embiid vs. Stanford, knowing he didn't have Embiid, was to stick with the pound the ball inside dogma. Against a team with tall post players. And then to blame missing bunnies. Further, as even the game announcers noted, he just left Wiggins standing on the wing. Perhaps you saw Wiggins' quotes after the game.
A coach's job is to put his players in the best position to win. Not just to put them on the floor, as is the implication of your (and others comments) -- where it is in every instance to blame the players.
Against WSU, Self got to play his favorites -- Lucas and Traylor, right? Even with the 5th and 22nd player in the country on the roster right now, he makes that choice. Further, KU was obviously not ready to play. Self made the choice to switch to "bad ball." And, of course, we have the acknowledgment by Self that he tried to make last season's team into something it wasn't.
All of that does not mean that the players don't share some of the blame. Of course they do. But Self shares some of the blame (a fact which you and some others never acknowledge). In certain games, though, it is clear that a loss is the result of getting out coached, and most times in varying degrees.
For example, vs. Michigan in 2013, was Self "out coached"? No. There were some decisions Self made that were questionable -- not fouling before the game tying three, poor last possession management. But not out coached. Stanford, though, was a schematic failing, and complete failure to adjust during the game. Out coached by a superior game plan. But if you don't want to look for it, you won't see it.
In the game just before the Michigan game, vs. UNC, Self's strategy was excellent in not getting sucked into UNC's small ball. Our approach to start the second half was perfection. And you point out the OU game last season. Clearly one of Self's best coached games. And when we discuss Self's failures in situations, those failures get most of the discussion. A large, large majority of the time, that's not the discussion as we don't have a lot of Self failures to discuss.
I have this vision of the see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil monkeys when it comes to some and their defenses of coach Self. If the guy decided to start Tyler Self over Devonte Graham, some here would cite Self's coaching record and defend his decision.
The difference is that you, and others, will never acknowledge that Self can fail, or that he fails at times in his prep, or that he fails at time in his game plan. And you mistake the discussion of when there are failures as an attack on the man, his character, and his accomplishments. Just like @sfbahawk did above -- referring to Self "not suddenly becoming stupid" and just saying we played a bad game. This is perhaps the best example of this inability to comprehend the nature of a discussion. No one said he has become stupid. We're just saying the guy isn't perfect, and can make mistakes, and there are times when his decisions negatively impact the team. A great majority of the time, it's a positive impact -- what we all see in great product that Self puts on the floor.
Self is having an outstanding season from a coaching perspective. We get focused on a few main topics, but what else are we criticizing? Not much. Some here can't stand any criticism.
You can go through life just saying "Uh, they played a bad game." Others might look at the most important question in life, which is "why?" But that requires independent thought. I admit, though, it is much easier to say "they played a bad game" and move on. Quite frankly, I can't imagine spending the time to post if all I was going to say is "Bill Self is never wrong" and "They played a bad game."
It's interesting - @sfbahawk says, "Frank Mason didn't all of a sudden become a wuss." Right. The question is "why" did he and Selden have such great difficulty vs. WVU. The next easy step is to look at what WVU did with its press and defensively. Then the next step is to look at what we did to deal with it. What we do to deal with it is directed and orchestrated by one man. He makes the decisions.
And no one says the players don't have a role in this. Of course they do. That's part of the analysis that I freely acknowledge. Guys can just play bad and there are no schematic or game planning issues. No doubt. It's just that a certain group of folks say that Self has no role in it. That's a big difference.
When someone can't acknowledge that a human being can make mistakes in judgment, that someone completely lacks credibility. If you acknowledge that Self can make mistakes, then you acknowledge that positions different than Self's position may be correct. Again, what those in the Self is God group ignore is their lord and savior's admission about his errors last season, and the fact that posters here were right when Self was wrong.
It's certainly fine to have 100% faith in someone's judgment. I have no issue with that. But when you have the 100% faith, you can't objectively analyze the person's decision. 100% faith is akin to blind faith. And when you're blind, you can't see your hand in front of your face. But then again, you don't need to.