🏀 KuBuckets Archive

@wissox

Youi have to be very careful with the number you quote for the UK since they basically cook the books and the homicides are not reported in a straightforward basis like the FBI does here. Here is an article you can read ↗ that explains the process.

Also, while homicide by firearms is low, the homicide by knife and other objects is high to the point hat the mayor of London has proposed banning knives. ↗

A friend of mine from Australia, not a conservative at all but a well educated individual who owns a software firm and also publishes a blog about holistic medicine and wholesome foods and is a big opponents of big corporation and pharma, just wrote recently that the gun control and gun confiscation experiment down under had very bad unintended consequences. The number of home invasions and othre crimes has increased exponentially and criminals now break into homes and commit crimes with impunity because they know home owners no longer own guns and obviously criminals do. Something to think about.

Did you notice that just about all the recent mass shootings in this country were on areas designed as "gun free"? Something else to think about.

I read that if you take the 5 cities in the country with the highest rates out of the statistics (St. Louis, Chicago Detroit, New Orleans and Baltimore...if I recall correctly) the homicide rate for the country as a whole drops dramatically to levels comparable to other similar developed countries. Something more to think about.

I believe in rational gun control that requires training and permits to own guns and a comprehensive and up to data registry of those who lose the privilege such as but not limited to, anyone convicted of a felony, but it is easier said than done since the implementation of such as system would be nearly impossible. Arbitrarily confiscation guns, like many politicians are proposing, is not the answer; responsible ownership through education is.

@mayjay

That is not how the article reads. Read paragraphs 1, 4 and 5 of highlighted text below; he clearly talks about De Paul, the school, and where it would get $200K:

On the same day, according to the university, Pitino sent Johnson a text saying, "Coach DePaul trying to pay Bowen 200 k to come there. Crazy world!"

DePaul assistant coach Shane Heirman, who was hired in May 2017, coached Bowen for one season at La Lumiere School in La Porte, Indiana. Two players on the Blue Demons' roster in 2017-18 -- guard Brandon Cyrus and Illinois transfer Jalen Coleman-Lands -- also played for Heirman at La Lumiere School. Cyrus, a 6-foot-5 guard who started 55 games at DePaul the last two seasons, transferred to UC Santa Barbara and will sit out this coming season under NCAA rules.

"DePaul University takes seriously the high standards of conduct expected in our athletics department and will not tolerate deviation from those standards," the university said in a statement later Thursday. "To date, neither the NCAA nor federal prosecutors have contacted us about this matter. We will, of course, fully cooperate if contacted in the future by the NCAA or federal law enforcement."

While Pitino didn't respond to a request for comment from ESPN, he explained his text to the Courier-Journal:

"I said to Kenny Johnson on the phone: 'I don't believe a word of it. Where would DePaul get $200,000 to pay Brian Bowen?' There's no truth to what this guy said. He's a nobody in the business. He hates DePaul, this guy. ...

"There was no merit behind the thing. That's why I never brought it to anybody. I get 20-30 text messages: 'I heard UCLA is giving this. I heard Kansas is giving this.' There's no facts. I really didn't think twice about it."

On June 3, 2017, Bowen committed to play for Louisville.

@justanotherfan

Do we know of any school that has directly paid money to athletes other than small amounts? To the best of my recollection, payments were always done by boosters and more recently allegedly by shoecos but not by schools.

A school program personnel would have to be crazy to pay directly so the allegation that De Paul offered $200K seems highly unlikely.

FAKE NEWS ALERT>>>>

I did not want to open a new thread so I figure this would be the next best place. This is on the Twitter feed for the NBA Draft Wire...

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Of course we know that on the lone year Durant was at Texas (2006-2007), KU won the regular season title outright and then beat Texas in OT in the Big 12 Tournament title game. Durant did not lead his team to "the" Championship, he led them to "the Championship game."

I don’t hold it agains Coach Williams that he left KU for UNC, I do have a problem with the way it was done and the blame for that falls entirely on Dean Smith. When Doherty was hired by UNC he was told he could bring his entire staff with him as it is customary but when he did they had a big problem letting go of existing coaches that were former UNC players including Phil Ford and it went downhill from there. Doherty was actively sabotaged by Dean Smith and the group that ran the program throughout his tenure culminating with a 5 day meeting with players parents behind Doherty’s back and afterwards he was given a choice to resign or be fired; he chose the first. This left UNC without a coach which put huge pressure on Coach Williams to go back as he was told he was the only hope for the program.

We all knew he was going to leave eventually but the way it happened was disgraceful. What made it worse was that Dean Smith, a Kansas native that played for KU and then became an assistant coach...stabbed his Alma Mater on the back. After that, I was not able to see Dean Smith in any other light.

The team is losing more players ↗, this cannot be good...

@mayjay

I believe these cases might prove to be more difficult to prove than it seems. As far as I know it is not against the law for a business interest to give money to someone else in return for some consideration or none at all; in fact, they do it all the time and is called endorsements. Now we all know that receiving money in this manner is a violation of NCAA rules but really not a violation of the law. Has the FBI in fact become the de facto law enforcer for the NCAA, a non government organization? Absent active participation by a public school personnel, looks like the FBI is making violations of NCAA rules a crime.

As far as I am know, only areas/features related to sports are named after successful coaches or athletes so any areas not in the vicinity of a sports facility are probably not an option.

There is a big green area between AFH and Naismith, it could be made into the Bill Self Hall of Fame Park, where a statue of Self is prominently displayed along others of every KU athlete that was enshrined into a National Hall of Fame. Seems appropriate that it would be placed smack in between AFH and Naismith.

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@Kcmatt7

I am not sure how Alexander would be a problem for KU. If I recall correctly, the issue was his mother getting a loan using his future earnings and possible representation as collateral. No laws were broken but obviously his NCAA eligibility compromised but...KU did no play him again after the allegations came out and, if I recall correctly, the allegations were never technically “proven” by the NCAA, although there appears to be enough annecdotal evidence to infer that it did happen. KU acted pro-actively and it would be difficult to show that it did anything wrong. Of course, this is based on the information made available to date and none of us or I should say...most of us...are not privy of what goes on behind the scenes.

LSU over UConn, UNC over Arizona, UCLA over Wake Forest, Indiana over Oklahoma, Georgetown over Michigan State and Florida upsets #1 Duke.

Next round: KU - UK, UNC - Indiana, Florida - LSU, UCLA - Georgetown

@wissox

You might want to consider following a different team if you want more championships. :smile:

@mayjay

As a matter of fact, I have read extensive reports of the accountant and bookkeeper testimony. Interesting that the accountant that makes $400K per year and took direct responsibility for many of the issues was not charged at all and instead granted immunity the same immunity granted to Gates, Manafort’s assistant, who according to the accountant and bookkeeper provided most of the guidance and information directly. The accountant and bookkeeper provided little in the way of proof and a lot of what they testified was about things they though were not right but had no proof one way or another.

The trial has barely started and you have already labeled him a “tax cheat.” As an attorney and a citizen should you not wait until he is convicted? If you were part of the jury pool would rightly be dismissed for cause because you have already made up your mind. With that way of thinking maybe we should not wait for the FBI basketball recruiting investigation to run its course and just go ahead and label KU and Coach Self as cheats since they were cited in the indictment and apparently that implies guilt. Presumption of innocence is one of the most sacred prnciples in the American Criminal Justice System ↗ and jumping to conclusions before all the evidence is in would be understandable coming from a lay person but seems unlikely and most unseeming coming from an attorney.

Does it not bother you that everybody is being offered immunity in order to elicit testimony, real or made up, to incriminate the bigger fish with the hope that someone will eventually turn in Trump? This approach has been strongly and vocally opposed by the ACLU and Trial lawyers in the past, as Dershowitz pointed out, but their silence is deafening now that the target is a conservative. Does it not bother you that while the Special Counsel was tasked to investigate the alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, Manafort is being indicted for alleged crimes that took place long before Trump became a candidate, long before he joined the campaign, unrelated to the campaign and outside the stated scope of his mandate? As an attorney, does it not bother you that while the average sentence for a white collar criminal found guilty is 1.5 years in a federal country club detention center, Manafort is facing a term of 305 years? Apparently not since anyone associated with Trump does not deserve the same treatment as other defendants do. SMH.

@mayjay

Interesting that as a lawyer you presume guilt instead of innocence as our system of laws dictates. Maybe you should get all the facts before you jump to conclusions...don’t believe me, this comes straight from very well known liberal Alan Dershowitz ↗. Apparently these charges were brought up before and none other than Rod Rosenstein exonerated him.](https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/08/judge-napolitano-doubles-down-says-paul-manafort-was-exonerated-8-years-ago-may-call-rosenstein-as-first-witness-video/) ↗

@approxinfinity

Dixon inherited and recruited some good players and has done well so far. At Pitt he started strong but by the end of his tenure the fans were ready for him to go. Too early to tell how it will turn out at TCU; so far so good but we will see if he can keep it up and get better. Webber took a team of players (other than Wade) that might have not started at other Big 12 teams into the Elite 8 last season beating Kentucky along the way. Pretty good X-and-O coach but cannot/seem to recruit or keep good talent but does well with what he has. Drew and Smart have had lots of talent but underperformed in relation to the talent; Smart much more so than Drew. Phrom has not impressed so far but he will have a talented team next season and it will be make or break for him.

@wissox

Didn’t the White Sox waited 88 years between championships? You should expect the next one in 2093. The Royals waited only 30 years so we should expect the next one in 2045.

@Crimsonorblue22

Enlarge and upgrade Naismith St. in front of AFH and call it Bill Self Blvd.

@wissox

I think the White Sox have to wait longer

@Texas-Hawk-10

Considering how bad the program has been, wouldn’t a clean start be better than a transition? But, if you are going to keep one member of the previous staff, Tony Hull would be the one.

@jayballer73

Congrats on both events. I started counting backwards when I turned 50 and I figure I will be a teenager when I hit the retirement home. 🎂🍻

IMHO, the two coaches that stand above the rest at this time are Self and Huggins with Weber, Kruger and maybe Beard on the top half with the last 3 in no particular order and Kruger having lost ground last season. The rest of coaches are in the bottom half in no particular order other than Dixon near the top and Smart being at or near the bottom because he has seriously underperformed in relation to the personnel he has had.

@drgnslayr

I agree. Potential aside, I have always thought that a good, solid upperclassman will almost always outperform a OAD. Players like Wiggins, Jackson and maybe Grimes that can produce from the start really don't come around that often.

Perhaps the beginning of the end of sports as we know them...slippery slope?

@Texas-Hawk-10

Nice summary and I agree that in Tressel’s case the lying to the NCAA and ensuing cover up that included playing athletes that would have been otherwise ineligible made things exponentially worse.

In Meyer’s case, absent a detailed morals clause in the assistant’s coach contract, can the HC or the school really do something about what happened outside working hours, off school grounds, did not involve any thing related to the school and in the privacy of his home? This recent article on ESPN ↗ appears to indicate there is a gray area in the subject.

Meyer's contract states that if Ohio State is considering terminating with cause, he has the right to "explain the circumstances with his point of view before termination, unless the circumstances are so heinous that, in Ohio State's reasonable judgment, it would be impossible for [Meyer] to justify his actions."

It's not clear that what Courtney Smith is alleging would amount to a Title IX violation. A judge in Colorado dismissed a lawsuit about a similar case earlier this year. In that instance, the judge said University of Colorado officials were not legally obligated to act when they learned about a domestic abuse situation between an assistant football coach and his significant other. Courtney Smith is not an Ohio State employee, and the alleged incidents did not occur on campus.

The assistant was fired anyway when the story came out. There is no confirmation that Meyer’s wife told him about it but seems highly unlikely that he would not have known so the lying part is what might do him in.

I read that if they just fire him they are still responsible for the remainder of his huge contract unless they show cause. His new contract that was signed last April has specific clauses about reporting as per ESPN...

Meyer's contract extension signed in April includes language requiring him to report any violations by staff members of Ohio State's sexual misconduct policy to the university's athletics Title IX coordinator. Also, as an Ohio State employee who supervises others, Meyer is required by the university's sexual misconduct policy to report knowledge of domestic abuse by a university employee. According to the policy, "An individual need not be charged with or convicted of a criminal offense to be found responsible for domestic violence pursuant to this policy."

Meyer's original contract required him to promptly report any violations of university rules by assistant coaches to Gene Smith and the Office of Compliance Services. Failure to do so could result in termination with cause.

Since his previous contract was in effect when the incident occurred and he claims that he learned about it recently, it might come down to the definition of “promptly” if they fire him for cause.

Note. My comment above does not indicate or imply that I condone or tolerate domestic violence in any way, shape or form, I do not.

KU beats Villanova handily 70% to 30% to advance to the Elite 8 and a showdown with
Kentucky who beat Ohio State 72% to 28%.

@Texas-Hawk-10 @dylans

I will guess that a new coach would want to bring his own people and start with a clean slate.

@dylans

Are we talking about THE Ohio State? I believe they have 8 national football championships.

In any case, quality coaches are getting hard to come by and if it happens to be true he did not know (highly doubtful) then he might survive.

@justanotherfan

Once again. In my original post I did mentioned about players that do charity work precisely because I wanted to concede that and did not want to mix the charity or community work with the stated reason for the protest. My point about the more vocal protesters is that they do not do much about what they are protesting, i.e the alleged one side killing of black people by the police. If it was not clear in my first post I repeated the same thing again in every post since then and you keep merging the two issues which was not at all my intent. Basketball players are not even part of the conversation because the protest took place on the football field and not on the basketball court.

You can spin it any way you want but I have consistently maintained the same point and did agree with you about some of the things a few out of hundreds of players involved are doing to address the issue in question, namely killing of black people by the police but it does not fit your narrative and you keep steering back to what it does. I get it. You just don’t want to address the items in the article I cited so you accuse me of changing the gist of my post and use it as an excuse not to address it..it’s ok, you really don’t have to do it and don’t need an excuse.

This horse has been beaten to death...

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@dylans

The question is will OSU let him go? Winning in football is huge at The Ohio State and coaches like Meyer are not easy to find.

@justanotherfan

Again, you are conveniently changing the subject and showing mostly charity and contributions, something that I acknowledged in my original post. You listed a number of links but they refer to only a handful of individuals and not the 100s of players that actively participated on the football protest. This was the gist of my post that you conveniently ignore.

Lets go over some of the items...

The Kaepernick article about his donations shows the types of organizations he has supported, including organizations that work on things like fighting mass incarceration, assisting single mothers, mental health treatment for former inmates, and organizations combating police brutality.

And none shows where he attempted to reach out and start a dialog with the other side. Instead he insulted lae enforcement agencies and wore sock with pigs dressed as police men creating a greater divide instead. He also praised Castro and Che Guevara, two blood thirsty sociopaths that have done more to oppress people including black and along with North Korea represent the most repressive regimes in the world and whose security forces make the worst alleged police crimes look like a walk in the park. I know this first hand. This is the epitome of hypocrisy when you condemn institution that, while not perfect, are by and large good and praise a totalitarian regime that is orders of magnitude more oppressive, repressive and bloody. Google "El paredon Cuba" and you will learn first hand what a real repressive regime is like.

Malcolm Jenkins and Anquan Boldin spoke to congress about police brutality.

Excellent, there is one that wants to make a difference although change will not come from congress where members are more interested in their own welfare and r-election that solving issues.

Malcolm Jenkins’ foundation works with high school students in New Orleans to improve graduation rates and provide resources for under-resourced communities.

Great work, but how is this addressing the issue at hand?

Jenkins also did a ride along with Philadelphia police.

Excellent. I posted on different thread before that everybody should do this one time to understand what being a police officer is like. I did one and I now how a lot more admiration and respect for the work they do.

Brandon Marshall met with Denver police to begin a dialogue between urban communities around Denver and the police.

Again, excellent and a good step toward finding common ground and a solution to the problem.

Martellus Bennett and Michael Bennett donated all of their profits from 2017 jersey sales to after school programs and inner city garden projects, as well as inner city schools as a way of expanding education opportunities.

Great charity work that I acknowledged before but does not address the police or flags issues.

So we have what...a small handful of players, 3? 4? 5? addressing the issue? Where are the rest of the hundreds that protested during games? I can post 100 links about 3 or 4 people and it is still about 3 or 4 people and not 100, right?

If every one of the players involved would go to his home town and organize a town hall meeting with police and local residents and organizations then we would to see the intent of wanting to find a solution and maybe the beginning of one but I have not seen that. Having the issue appears to be more important than finding the solution.

Now perhaps you will address the article I originally cited although I am not holding my breath.

@Crimsonorblue22

I think we all did. We really hoped he would work and I can't recall when is the last time a season started with so much hope like last season and it was not unrealistic hope, none of us was expecting a 8 or 9 win season but a more modest 4 -6 win season and the team ended up 1-11 and, other than the 10 point loss to KSU, the rest of the losses were not even close including a two game span with a combined losing score of 88-0 and a 3 game span with a combined losing score of 153-19 and many records of the bad kind set in the process.

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I would like to think that the upcoming season will be a surprise but at this point I am not willing to get my hopes up again. I sure hope the new AD has someone ready to step in.

@jaybate-1.0

Mangino’s approach has already been harshly rejected, so he can prove nothing you apparently speciously suggest.

And what exactly did i "speciously suggest"? Did Mangino not win with same stadium, same shoe contract and considerably lesser facilities? These are facts.

Did KU under Mangino not have its best season ever in 2007 when it started unranked and finally debuted at #20 on week 7 of the season, moving to #2 by week 13 and finished the season at #7 after a win at the Orange Bowl with the best record in Division I? Didn't KU pasted Nebraska 76-39 in a game that set many good KU records and bad NU records including most point allowed? Didn't KU beat NU 45-10 a couple of years before? By the way, the year in between NU barely beat KU in OT in Lincoln. When is the last time KU beat Nebraska 2 times in 3 years? When is the last time KU went to 4 Bowls (including 1major Bowl) in 8 years? Let me help you... KU has not been to a bowl since Mangino left and his record on his last year at KU is better than any since then (8 years) and under 3 different coaches. In his last season at LU Mangino has 2 more wins than Beaty has in 3 seasons.

Lew Perkins wanted his own coach and despite the success of the football program he did many thing to undermine Mangino in a situation reminiscent of the of Brad Doherty at UNC where TPTB decide that he needed to go to make room for Roy Williams.

My new mantra for @jaybate-1-0 this season is: check if you are on or off your meds BEFORE you type.

@justanotherfan

I am not sure anyone is advocating firing him before seeing how the team performs and an evaluation at the bye week after the first six games, which are the easier portion of the schedule, seems fair. If he is 3-3 then he probably gets the rest of the season but anything less, particularly if he is 1-5 with a high probability of finishing 1-11, then why keep him? Better to have potential coaches take notice of the opening at KU than drag it out to the end of the season.

Also, there is the issue of the buyout. This is what it looks after it was extended, who knows why, to 2021 after going 2-22 the first two seasons.

KU buyout, firing Beaty without cause

Old: 24 months or remainder of contract, whichever is less, offset by Beaty’s new salary if employed elsewhere.

New: $3 million

Beaty buyout to KU if he leaves early

Old: Two-years’ salary

New: $3 million if he leaves in 2017-18; $2 million if he leaves in 2019-20; $1 million if he leaves in 2021

So, firing Beaty at the end of the season under the old contract would have costed KU one year salary (2019) or $800K; letting him go half way through the season would have costed $1.2M. Under the new and current contract it will cost KU $3M. I assume the base salary ends when he is fired and the buyout kick in, so, firing him mid season saves KU half of his current base salary of $1.6M or $800K; keeping him as a lame duck to the end of the season would cost KU $800K. Only Zenger could have negotiated such a poor contract.

@Crimsonorblue22

No, that is not what I said. Unfortunately the protest chose to carry out their protest by disrespecting the flag on company time.

Racism and discrimination are the result of ignorance and abhorrent in all their forms and by anyone and should never be tolerated; I certainly do not condone or tolerate it. That is not to say that racism does not exist, it does, but the best way to defeat it is by education, teaching understanding and tolerance and not by one sided confrontation. I commend you for speaking out agains racism.

@jaybate-1.0

Mangino was able to win with the same shoe contract, same stadium and football facilities that have been considerably improved since he left.

@approxinfinity

You also need to re-read my post in which I already indicated that many players do great community/charity work so there is no need to lecture me on something I readily acknowledged on my original post. All the links except one about ride alongs are about charity work and most about basketball players.

The “football” players protest was not and is not about charity but about the claim that police kill black people indiscriminately and I don’t see much being done by the players to address this particular issue.

Maybe you took the time read the one article I cited and would care to comment on it?

@justanotherfan

Cute. Perhaps you should re-read my post where I said...

“I know of many players that quietly do a lot of outstanding community work without looking or asking for the limelight or credit but the more vocal protesters do nothing.”

I don’t need you to tell about the good work players do. My comment was about the protesting football players and most of your references are about basketball players.

Again, this is what I wrote...

“If this issue is so important, I always wondered why is it that all these players that kneel on company time don’t do it on their own time? They have the money, resources and connections to set up events like town hall meetings or press conferences to discuss the issue outside the football field but I just don’t see this happening.”

Here, I was talking about discussing the issue at the center of the protest, not charity work, and I don’t see that happening other than ranting and raving against Trump which does nothing to solve this issue that has been there since long before Trump jumped into politics and will likely be around long after he is gone.

Now, maybe you can give your opinion on the article I cited.

@Texas-Hawk-10

Excellent points. At this time, and absent a miracle start of the season, there seems to be more upside to firing Beaty than keeping him.

@Texas-Hawk-10

Thanks for the assist, I did have it on my list but failed to write it down. More importantly, all the wins were in the past century or 20 years ago except for KU in 2008.

@Crimsonorblue22

Did not comment specifically on what you said, I simply made what I thought was a followup observation.

@HighEliteMajor

If this issue is so important, I always wondered why is it that all these players that kneel on company time don't do it on their own time? They have the money, resources and connections to set up events like town hall meetings or press conferences to discuss the issue outside the football field but I just don't see this happening. I know of many players that quietly do a lot of outstanding community work without looking or asking for the limelight or credit but the more vocal protesters do nothing. Something to think about.

Here is an article I found ↗ that uniquely describes the current situation and points out the real issues in the black community.

@Crimsonorblue22

If the new coach is one that has the potential to improve the program, players will stay.

@jayballer73

With very few exception, elite recruits will take the 5 allowed visits...why wouldn't they? They are paid junkets and parents can come along. They are treated like royalty with travel, lodging, meals and entertainment expenses all paid as well a 3 tickets to a game and also given lots of promotional gear. Frankly, I am surprised when elite recruits don't take the 5 visits.

It is also a good learning experience. For an East Coast prospect that has not had the opportunity to travel, a trip to the West Coast or even the Mid West with the different in lifestyles is eye opening.

@Woodrow

I did not say or even imply that KU would be competing against powerhouse programs like Michigan. However, there will be a number of like programs that will be looking for a HC at the end of the season like it happen every year and it would not hurt to get in front of the line for an up and coming coach or even sign and move him in as soon as practical.

@justanotherfan

I don’t agree. If he is 1-5 going into the bye week he will be fired so an early search for a replacement can get started to stay ahead of the competition. If he is 1-5 after the easier part of the schedule why would you keep him knowing he will likely end 1-11?

@justanotherfan

Do you think that the emergence of ESPN with its East Coas bias has something to do with it? Since it was created in 1979 only 4 school west of the Mississippi, UCLA 1, Arkansas 1, UNLV 1 and KU 2 times have won championships. Makes you wonder, doesn’t it?

The writer wanted to make a specific point and used the numbers available in the most favorable way but he purposefully ignores that the minutes required to reach the numbers he cites will just not be there, at least not to the extent he assumes.

I think we can all agree that anything short of a Final Four would be a big disappointment when the Championship is a reachable goal but not one that can be taken for granted. Kentucky has plenty of talent and also returning experience and Duke has perhaps the most talent of the 3 but experience is short. UK will have to deal with Tennessee and Duke will have to compete with UVA and UNC in the same way KU will have to deal with WVU and neither might win its own conference but, by tournament time, all 3 teams will be ready and eager and one of the 3 will likely take the cake...I like KU’s chances.

@Texas-Hawk-10

Considering the support cast, Dedric will be a lot more selective from the 3 than he was at Memphis where he was the go to scorer. Also, the KU coaching staff is much better than what he had at Memphis so I expect him to have a much better 3-point shooting percentage than he had at Memphis.

I have already set up my schedule to watch the Royals next World Series...in 2045...:smile:

@KirkIsMyHinrich

I take it that they considered only players that played in the NCAA and unfortunately Embiid did not. Having said that I do agree that a Chamberlain-Embiid double post would be at least equal or even better than that of Jabbar-Walton.

@JAYHAWKFAN214

Thanks for the info. Looks like there was little defense played and the score is not nearly as lopsided as I thought it would be.