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The A-10 would be an excellent fit for WSU,.
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I am pretty sure that WSU would match most money he is offered by other schools except for the deep pockets Elite programs. I imagine he is looking for a major program with a decent chance of success where he can stay for a long time and establish a legacy. There was talk last year that UCLA was interested but they ended up getting Alford instead. He should be a fairly hot commodity right now and he also has a decent core of players coming back, so WSU should still be good next year and run the table in the MVC, which should give him additional leverage.
WSU has had success on and off over the years. Ralph Miller had some decent teams in the 50s, Gene Smithson had some glory years in the early 80s with players like Cliff Levingston, Antoine Carr and Xavier McDaniels and recently they had great success with Marshall; however.in between they have faded into the woodwork and I suspect once Marshall leaves they will go back to being a middle of the pack team.
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Dayton might be moving tot he All-Catholic Big East leaving an opening in the A-10.
We would need to get better looking girls; the one with Tharpe was not particularly attractive.
Not particularly impressed with the game; it did not have the suspense other recent games have had. There is no way UK can win with Randle taking only 7 shots all game;. So much for Calipari being a tournament coach, I believe he had the superior talent and got out coached. The foul differential in favor of Kentucky was eye opening. 17 fouls on UConn only 10 on UK and a couple wee at the very end of the games; the resulting free throws were UK 13-24 and UConn 10-10.
I am so thankful that during my college years we did not have digital cameras or cell phone or internet. I could have been in a lot of trouble...along with just about every body I knew. So, I will not pass judgement on Tharpe, I just wish he would be more careful and more aware of the potential consequences.
Thanks! Some posters here probably feel "666" fits me to a tee :)
He DOES and WILL have some big shoes to fill before his time is over at KU.
I am not sure what you mean by this. Are you saying that Coach Self still has some big shoes to fill? Or are you saying that his replacement would? I agree with the second statement not the first.
Is Bill Self the best/most successful coach at KU over the modern era, say over the last 50-60 years? I would say yes but I would be interested in hearing opinions from others who do not think he is, and if this is the case, who do you think is the most successful coach at KU?
Self is till one one of the elite coaches in the country. I can think of maybe 5 out of 350+ Division I programs that might not want to trade up but all the other programs would love to have Coach Self at their school; he is that good.
Regardless of what some posters think, Bill Self can flat out coach and his winning percentage record is proof positive. He has the support of 99% of KU fans, and more importantly, the support of the Athletic Department and the big time donors. He will be at KU as long as he continues to win consistently, which basically means as long as he wants to stay. It's that simple.
Perhaps the question that should be asked is with whom (assuming he is available) would you replace coach Self that would be an improvement? Frankly, the only coach I would have considered (that is not already tied to an elite program) is coaching the Boston Celtics.
Does any one see the similarities between Kevin Ollie and Mike Davis at Indiana?
Both inherited the position after the head coaches (Calhoun and Knight) were dismissed for alleged misbehavior and both lead their team to the NCAA final in their second year, each heavily depending on one player (Napier, Jeffries). After the NCAA final appearance Davis career went down hill, left Indiana after four years, had 6 average years at UAB and now coaches at Texas Southern; quite a fall from his glory days at Indiana. What are the chances that Ollie follows the same path?
I believe this is the first time in a long time that I want both teams to lose. UConn is coming out of probation for multiple violations and one whisker away from the dreaded "lack of institutional control," and it avoided this designation only by having Jim Calhoun resign. We all know what Calipari has done and still does and somehow he manages to stay one step ahead of the law. It amazes me that these two school represent what is suppose to be the best of college basketball.
There is a better chance of Selden playing the 3 than PG. Selden's natural position is SG and he is the best player on the team at that position; why would Coach Self play him at PG when there are several other players on the team better at that position?
I can't believe it, UK won with another 3 at the end for th5 3rd time...
Maybe it goes to show that it happens to every team at one time or another...
At least Wisconsin is handling Kentucky...
We handled the press just fine in the second half and won by 9; they were ahead by 15 at half time, they won by 6.
Florida played a poor game and could not buy a three. I kept thinking that if they would have played that poorly against KU, KU would have won by a bunch.
If by "verticals" you mean jumping ability, Coach Self indicated a year ago that Traylor was more athletic tham TRob and he will only get better. If you mean standing reach, I have no idea waht Jamari's is.
KU (like most other major programs) traditionally adds an inch or two to every player, so the height measurements have to be taken with a grain of salt. The pre-draft measurements are interesting as we finally learn the players' actual measurements.
Having said that, I am not the only one that thinks that TRob and Jamari have similar builds; yes, TRob is a little bigger but their builds (not sizes) are similar. Lots of articles on the subjects
You cannot say he is not "built."
Also, we must keep in mind that Jamari's primary role in this years team was to play defense and not necessarily score; however, when KU dearly needed scoring and rebounding against Eastern Kentucky, he came up huge with 17 points (7 of 8 ), 14 rebounds (7 offensive), 2 assists, 1 block and only 2 fouls in 22 minutes. Traylor has the potential to be an impact player next season
TRob's height was exaggerated at KU. It was easy to tell he was not 6'-10" when he stood next to Withey and was 3 or 4 inches shorter and was closer in height to Kevin Young. At the pre-draft combine he was measured at 6'-7.75" without shoes and 6'-8.75" with shoes; however, his wing span was an amazing 7'-3.25".
By the way, KU lists Perry at 6'-8", 225 lbs, and Traylor at 6'-8" and 220 lbs.
Considering that he has not played organized BBall for that long, Traylor has made amazing progress. If this Summer he improves as much as he did last Summer, I would feel very comfortable with Jamari getting increased playing time. I guess it all depends on whether Embiid stays (highly doubtful), Turner comes in (70% in Embiid leaves, 10% if Embiid stays), how quickly Alexander develops and how well Mickelson has adapted to the system and how well he plays.
I guess we will have to compare notes at the end of the season.
Thanks for the Mario Little link. Interesting they talk about his defense, something he learned from Coach Self, no doubt. Hopefully he can take his improvement to the Summer League and maybe get a cal from a NBA team.
Best of luck today. Nothing would pleas me more to see Wisconsin take it to Kentucky and win going away but I will settle for any type of win.
Interesting that the #2 seed is an underdog to the #8 seed. Vegas opened with UK at -2-1/2 and it has now settle at -1 point; small but significant.
Ict, I think you made my point. Yes, the success of UConn is based on Jim Calhoun, but he was at UConn since 1986, that is a long, long time, 26 years. And look at what Ollie inherited, a program 3 years removed from the National Championship, and plenty of quality returning players and he will be playing in the AAC which as you said might end up being a fringe conference. Yes, the pieces were in place for Ollie to succeed.
Manning is coming to a program with 4 straight losing seasons, no quality players (to speak of) coming back, fans with high expectations, and will be playing in a conference that will be loaded with good teams and likely will be the premier basketball conference. Not the ideal setup for success.
What I am/was saying is/was that the stars were aligned a lot better for Ollie that they are for Manning. Ollie stepped in into situation geared up for success, Manning not so much. If Manning can turn Wake into a consistent winner, then he can succeed anywhere. Maybe we are agreeing but just using different terms.
You cannot compare what Ollie inherited and what Manning is walking into. Last losing season at UConn was in 1986 and it was National Champion as recently as 2011. Wake Forest has 4 losing season in a row and plays in a tough conference where he has to compete for recruits with the likes of with UNC, Duke and NC State...and those are just the other in-state schools.
If he can succeed at Wake Forest he can success just about anywhere. Best of luck to Danny.
While I am very happy for Manning's success, part of me thinks he might not be quite ready for the position. Wake Forest has had success in the past (Tim Duncan Years) and as recent as 2009 when they finished tied for 2nd in the ACC. The last 4 year have not be good and fans are very upset and expecting quick success, which is not easy in basketball crazy North Carolina.
This is a catch-22 situation. Opportunities like this don't come often to a coach with only 2 years of Division I head coaching experience; on the other hand, if his tenure at Wake Forest does not go well, it might damage his future chances and he might end up back as an assistant at KU.
A good thing he was not coaching them. otherwise they would have underachieved.
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Ouch!!! that had to hurt...
I have been switching back on forth and I thought the cute girl from Duke and the player from Oakland were pretty damn good. I was surprised Heslip won and I missed the women's finals.
I was simply stating that Traylor reminds me of TRob as I believe they have a similar built, although TRob is a little bigger; obviously you don't. More importantly, I was comparing how TRob's s number doubled from season to season, much like Traylor's have; I was comparing rate of improvement rather that actual production, makes sense?
Now, there is this bit from his KU bio...
"Finished the conference season with just 10 missed shots in 18 games (33-43, 76.7 FG Pct.)... Was a perfect 1.000 from the field in 13 games... First player off the bench most often (17x)... Ranked 14th in the Big 12 in blocks (0.8).
Don't forget that He was not expected to be a scorer, Kind of makes you want to see more of him, doesn't it?
Good information on Mickelson. Interesting that Anderson had him bulk up; he tends to like the leaner, quicker players that can play the 40 minutes of hell that he likes.
I am curious to see how he spent his red shirt season; with the proper training (and genes) a player can bulk up and still be explosive; hopefully he is both, we can use a good shot blocker. FWIW, KU has him listed at 6'-10" and 240 lbs.
Jamari reminds me of TRob whose stats just about doubled every year and they both have somewhat similar build, motor and game. I believe next season will be a big one for him. He definitely has the athleticism and if he can develop a decent mid-range jumper to keep defenses honest, he can be a load.
Hunter Mickelson had a very good freshman year and was considered on of the premier shot blockers in the country; however; he was not a Mike Anderson recruit and once he went full blast with his own system, Mickelson did not fit that style of play and his numbers dropped on his sophomore year. His style of play should work better in Coach Self system and I see him as a Withey light.
Lucas showed some flashes of brilliance in some games and in others he looked like the proverbial deer in the headlights. With increased playing time we should see a lot more production from him.
If Alexander can provide 20 solid minutes at the 4, then I would say we are in good shape. I believe that Perry will play a lot of 3 next season.
Back to the Manning to Wake Forest initial subject. The ACC is a tough, non-forgiving conference to coach, many experienced coaches have come and gone. Maybe Danny needs more experience before moving to the ACC???
Love Bob Marley and Peter Tosh and the Wailers...and UB40...they made reggae music popular.
Maybe, just maybe in this case any news would be good news. If Embiid is staying, then it is really good news; if he is going to the NBA then we have change to get Myles Turner, which is also very good news.
If Embiid leaves and Turner goes elsewhere, we still have a solid core of bigs coming back.
I would say that except for a portion of the State of Kentucky (the others are Louisville fans), most fans around the country will be rooting for the badgers; I know I will.
Even at 6'8" he still is in the range of NBA Power Forwards. Most references I have seen list him at 6'-9", 240#.
Don't forget that one of the more dominant PF of all times, Charles Barkley, is only 6'-6".
Why do you think Alexander is undersized at the NBA PF level? At 6'-9", 240 lbs., he seems to be smack in the middle of the range for both weight and height for PF in the NBA. Maybe he does not quite have the strength yet, but height and weight wise he is there.
Wow,. Kelly Tripuka, I had not heard that name in a while. While Tripuka and Hansbrough were prolific college scorers, their games are quite different, as I recall. Tripuka was a finesse type of player with a great outside shot that played the SF but, more often than not, the SG, while Hansbrough is an Inside banger that plays PF.
Tripuka was overlooked and undervalued in the NBA and his trade to Utah was the beginning of the end of his career, not because he could not play but because he and coach Layden did not see eye to eye; he should have stayed in Detroit where he was an important part of that team, but I guess it was not his decision. He was a good scorer both on college and the NBA. Landing on the right team can make or break you career; Mario Chalmers knows this all too well; he landed on the right team and has never looked back.
Tyler Hansbrough has had a hard time finding a niche in the NBA. He is one of the more accomplished players ever in college, but somehow he does not seem to land on a team that needs his style of play.
I agree, the only position Ellis can play in the NBA is the 3. He is just not big or strong enough to bang inside. A lot of college players change position once the ye get to the League. Mario played SG at KU but now plays PG for the Heat. Rush went from SF to SG, Markieff and Marcus went from PF/C and PF to PF and SFin the league.
Ellis has shown a decent shot from the outside and can hit the thee when set. Once he learn to shoot the three from behind the screen or on the move he will have a decent shot since he is speedy enough to penetrate and take the short jumper or the layup/dunk. With Alexander taking minutes at the PF I can see Ellis playing a hybrid PF/SF to start and gradually moving to the SF.
JJ Ridick and Adam Morrison were co-players of the year back in 2006; look how that turned out; Ridick still around as a 3-point specialist and Morrison long gone. Just because a player is good in college does not mean his game translates to the NBA.
You are most welcome although I cannot tale credit for it; I do like it a lot though.
Although Andrew was at KU only 1 year, however, the impact will last a long time. I am so glad he played for KU, couldn't have asked for a classier individual.
You seem to be a religious person, here is some sage advice...
Serenity Prayer -
“God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.”
There is nothing that you and I can do that will change what happens with the KU program. As I said, enjoy what we have and don't let what you cannot control determine you state of mind. I have put the past season behind, I remember the good things and how some day I will tell my great grand children how I enjoyed watching one or two of the NBA superstars play at KU. I don't dwell on what I cannot control and don't let it control my happiness/unhappiness.
Give it a try; I am confident you will feel better.
I agree.
I don't think you can compare results from 15-20 years ago with current results. The difference between a #1 and #10 seed 20 years ago was much larger that it is today. Parity has narrowed the gap between top teams and the rest.
On a separate note, why continue focusing on the negatives? There are a lot more positives to the KU program and concentrating on the negative only makes you unhappy...and it shows. Enjoy the good aspect of the program and you will be much happier. You should try being a Missouri fan for a couple of days and then you will begin to appreciate how good we have it being KU fans.
Got to go with Wisconsin and Bo Ryan, the man has coached team basketball for a long time an he is due one. After that Florida; they probably have the best combination of talent and experience and top coaching.
UConn? Nope, can't root for a team 1 year removed from probation. Kentucky? There is not enough soap in the world to wash away the slime from the squid; it would be a win for everything that is wrong with college basketball.
@justanotherfan Yep...say what you want, they are playing. But they can't win on last second shots at this point.
They just did...win on last second shot.