Arguably the best and most successful long term KU player in the NBA in the last 30 years.
JayHawkFanToo
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Lots of walk on players. I believe the roster at the KU website lists 105 players. My point was that if there are scholarships available, graduate transfers from major programs is a good option since they are immediately eligible and hopefully ready to contribute and lock the scholarship for only one year...better than picking up JuCo players. Others obviously disagree.
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1 and 2 could happen, 3 unlikely considering Ukraine and Russia are not in what you would call good terms since Russia seized Crimea in 2014.
New procedures have now been implemented that allow committee members to use the RPI or one of the computer rankings for selection and seed as they see fit.
I did not say that KU is done, not by a long shot but the margin of error is dissapearing and a loss, any loss makes it that much more difficult. Tech. Is playing well and has won 6 in a row after having its slump when it went 1-3; Tech. is a veteran team and I donât believe we will see anything like that from them again.
Interesting that Beaty recently declined to disclose â how many players KU has on scholarship, makes you wonder why.
I saw that. It is a rendering of how Yankee Stadium will look when ND plays Syracuse in the Shamrock Series next November; funny they chose that picture instead of one with touchdown Jesus in the background.
...and it is still at the bottom of the Conference. WVU, OU and Tech. will be considerably harder.
Other rankings such as KenPom and Sagarin are now also used in addition or instead of the RPI.
If KU cannot beat ISU, the chances it will beat WVU or particularly Texas Tech. get smaller and I mean...considerably smaller. ISU is an absolute must win game.
I trust your info and insight. :thumbsup_tone2:
...as long as the check clears the refs don't mind...:smile:
Texas Tech. already had its slump when it went 1-3, they have now won 6 in a row.
Here are the rules regarding drugs from the Big 12 Conference Handbook...
SECTION 8
DRUG TESTING
8.1 Purpose - The Conference is concerned about the use of Big 12 and NCAA banned substances by Big 12 athletes.
While the use of substances on the Big 12 and NCAA Banned Drug Classes List may result in severe sanctions for both
the student-athlete and the Member Institution at which the student-athlete is in attendance, of greater concern to the Big 12 is the physical and psychological damage that such use can cause to a student
-athlete. In an on-going effort to deter the use of banned substances and to protect the health and safety of all
Big 12 student-athletes, the Conference has instituted the
Conference Testing Procedures.
8.2 - Testing - Drug testing of student-athletes shall be conducted
yearly in a manner consistent with approved procedures and may include on -campus year-round
testing as well as testing at championships.
8.3 - Positive Test âSanctions. A student-athlete who tests positive for the use of a banned substance, other than a "street drug" as defined by the NCAA/Big 12 Banned-
Drug Classes List, shall be sanctioned by the Big 12 Conference as outlined below:
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(a) The student-athlete will be immediately declared ineligible for further participation in regular-season and post-season competition;
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(b) The period of ineligibility will be for a minimum of
365 days from the date of the specimen collection that lead to the positive test result (e.g., if the positive test occurs during a season of competition, the period of ineligibility must include at least the number of contests the student-athlete
participated in during the season prior to the notification of ineligibility);
and
- (c ) The student-athlete shall also forfeit one season of competition in all sports because of the positive test result.
8.3.1 Second Positive Test - If the student-athlete tests positive a second time for the use of any banned drug, other than a âstreet drugâ, he or she shall lose all remaining Big 12 Conference regular-season and post-season eligibility in all sports.
8.3.2 Positive Test for Street Drugs - With regard to a positive finding for the use of a âstreet drugâ as defined by the NCAA Banned-Drug Classes List, an institution will be notified and shall impose a sanction consistent with institutional policy. [Refer to the Big 12 Conference Drug-Testing Protocol and
Procedures for the testing procedures and appeals process.]
I was going to ask the same question as @BShark . I seem to remember that for the last few years KU did not fill all the available scholarships and the talk was that KU did not have enough players to compete since it did not fill the allowed scholarships.
Lack of depth is the main issue. In the past, Coach Self could sit a starter and play a backup until the starter saw the light; can't quite do that now. Remember Coach Self Said when announcing that Lightfoot would start that KU did not have enough depth to replace all the started that he would have liked to replace.
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No question Wisconsin has fallen on hard times; short of winning the Big 10 tournament it will miss the Big Dance.
No team gets âall the calls,â on this we can all agree; however, wouldnât we also agree that as I posted âsome teams get favorable calls more often than notâ is also correct?
Manning seat is getting very hot. The good thing he has going for him is that most of the remanint games are agains felllow bottom teams. WF is 2-11 with 5 games left; less than 3 wins in the last 5 games (not counting tournament) and his job is in serious jeopardy.
Just because we have success agains a team does not equate to having favorable or equitable refereeing, right? Games with a national audience are naturally going to be called more evenly, of course the Chiefs probably disagree with this.:smile:
I have zero doubt that some teams get favorable calls more often than not. As others have mentioned some of it has to do with the coach. Coach K is constantly after the refs an hence his team get the benefit of the doubt or the favorable call more often than not. Look at West Virginia, with all the pressing and checking they do, they should have twice as many fouls and yet they donât, likely because Huggy is riding the refs the entire game.
Look at the Baylor game, a couple of the foul calls against Doke and Lightfoot were really bad, particularly the block against Mitch when it was an obvious charge. These calls affected the game big time as Lightfoot fouled out and Doke played restricted minutes because of his foul situation and the Baylor player has the gall to say KU gets the calls...what an idiot. In other sports coaches and players that criticize refereeing get fined, about time the Conference starts doing likewise.
For a blue blood, elite team, KU likely gets a lot less favorable calls than other teams partly because you really donât see Coach Self berating the refs or complaining about them after the game. It does not help that idiots like Fraschilla make unproven statements allleging referee bias at AFH. If you look at the overall count, I would suspect KU is in the negative side, i.e. getting less favorable calls than the average team does.
I try to catch as many big games as I can in the evenings and on weekends while, by your own admission, you have an extremely limited experience to back up your claim. Before you state that Duke does not get the calls, watch a few games they play and then tell me they donât...or re-watch their title game against Wisconsin, if you can stomach it...
No, I am not saying that at all. All I am sayin is that despite how many fans believe this is such a bad team, most other outside people still see KU as a very good team. The NCAA has it as a #2 seed and Lunardi as a #3.
I checked KenPom, Sagarin and Massey and KUâs strength of schedule is way up there, anywhere between #2 and #5 with the most wins over top 50 teams; OU, WVU, Tech. and Texas are also way up there and all conference teams have SOS in the top 50 and 8 out the top 10 teams are also ranked in the top 50. The Big 12 is still the top ranked conference.
What I am saying is that some fans donât appreciate how tough the conference is top to bottom as shown by the last place team beating the top team. Oh well...
The Lunardi link I provided reflects who he thinks are the top 16 teams and it is different than the ones selected by the NCAA. Lunardi has KU as #11 while the NCAA has it at #6.
Do you not watch Duke games? As a Wisconsin fan you should remember how Duke was handed a Championship by the refs when they beat Wisconsin...right?
I know that blaming the refs makes it for a convenient excuse for opposing teams/coaches like Squeaky. Can you think of a time when the calls overtly favored KU? I canât. Sure, there are times when KU gets one or two favorable calls but usually those are make up calls or followed by calls for the other team. KU NEVER gets the whistle advantage that teams like Duke get.
Lunardi â thinks KU is #3 seed...
A couple of fouls on Doke and Lightfoot were just plain bad calls and had a bearing on the outcome.
I agree with you 100%. With Preston playing to expectations KU is a legitimate top 5 team and strong Final Four candidate.
At this time and barring a big change in the teamâs performance, the Sweet 16 would appear to be the ceiling. If they start hitting on all cylinders then a Final Four could happen but the margin of error for this team is razor thin.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@JayHawkFanToo he didnât say cancer
Not that I recall; pretty sure I would remember if he did.
In his previous press conference Coach Self indicated that KU did not have enough players to replace all the starters he wanted to replace so Lightfoot was it...or words to that effect.
In my opinion winning #14 is more important since it would place the program in a unique place in college basketball history and would be a record that might never be broken. Long after a trip to the Final Four is forgotten, the streak will be remembered. If I recall correctly, the next longest current streak is 5 or 6 by Villanova and considering that #15 would be considerably easier with the team next years, the record would be safe for a long time.
Interesting comment from Baylor player â who obviously needs to watch tape of the game. SMH.
I think weâd even see a looser Bill Self next season as well if the streak ends this year.
Coach Self will indeed be a lot more relaxed and loose because he will have a superior team; perhaps the best of his tenure at KU.
Yes, there is still lots of basketball to be played; however, based on the way the team has played recently there seems to be less hope of a favorable outcome vis-a-vis the conference title.
Unless the team has a ....come to Jesus... moment and makes a 180 degree turn, I am doubtful it even wins at ISU. A loss at ISU and the odd become considerably longer, wouldnât you agree?
If KU runs the table the rest of the way it finishes not worse than tied for first. A loss along the way makes it considerably more difficult. I really thought that KSU had a chance of upsetting Tech. yesterday and they did well in the first hal but then, Tech. showed why they are at the top and destroyed the kitties.
...still, lots of basketball to be played and I am still hoping for the best.:smile:
I really think we still donât have all the necessary information to make a definite assessment. However, you have obviously looked at the issue in great detail and have put a lot of though into it trying to verify it with the sketchy information available and certainly make good points and formulate a valid hypothesis, again, based on the information at hand.
If what you formulated turns out to be in fact what is happening then we can safely guess that Newman is not comming back, something I said it would happen a while back, albeit for wholly different reasons.
The question is...what happens moving forward? Any chance of Vick returning to his pre-conference level? Has the team given up? I would think that no one in the team wants to be remembered as the team that broke the streak, but again, how the younger generation thinks and what itâs priorities are appears to be significantly different that that of my generation.
That was not the post or post I was referring. Lots of others with way out there theories.
You say donât get P5 grad transfers and I say letâs do. We just agree to disagree.
I was just confirming what you said.:smile:
Every thing he does is a no-no. I have been in favor of firing him for a long time.
If Coach Self ever reads some of these post I am sure he would get a good laugh. SMH.
The cameras at the game are running during warmups. It would be silly to lie about something like this since the video is available.
Now, you are grasping at straws. Maybe you should re-read my posts. I did not say the graduate transfers were starters at big programs, in fact, I said quite the opposite...
âPlayers from Alabama, Georgia, Clemson and others that are not good enough to start at those programs would be stars at KU.â
Obviously if they were good enough to start at those programs they would not be transferring, right?
You think KU should stay away from graduate transfers and I say what do we have to lose considering that what we have had to date has produced a total of 3 wins and 1 conference win in the last 3 years. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result.
No question that after today the Conference Title is Tech.âs to lose. KU can still do it but now the odds are against it.
How about David Padgett?
How about him? He was a good player recruited by Williams who stayed one year but wanted to play a style different than what Coach Self wanted. He left the program in good terms and never was in any trouble at KU and did well at Lousville...so, how about him?
P.S. He scored the winning basket against MU at the last game at Hearnes Center, that alone makes him gold in my book.
Without a decent supporting cast a QB is just a sitting duck taking hit after hit. Christâs numbers were considerably better at ND where he had a decent team than at KU; Christ was better than anything KU had and Cummins started playing once the season was lost and with an eye to the future. Unlike basketball where 2 or 3 players can make all the difference, in football you need a heck of a lot more than that and KU cannot afford to be too picky.
Under class men that transfer from a big program do it because they cannot cut it, or are told they will be cut, or in some cases expelled from the program and the receiving program has to waste a scholarship while they red shirt. Graduate transfers have typically been with the program for 3 or 4 years and come ready to play without having to sit one year. Likely better than the JuCo players KU is now recruiting, wouldnât you agree? Didnât KU get the top JuCo player and he didnât even finish the season?
...and how much are our regular recruits doing?