Quite a read.
JayhawkRock78
1422 posts
I've always liked Fred, he is a class act. Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
@JayhawkRock78 said:
@jaybate-1.0
When I moved from SB in 2007 the Frigates were still coming in to dock so they could get weapons from the bunkers. They had to use small frigates to shuttle out the weapons to the big ships.
Security around there was very lax until 911. I could take my boat right by if I wanted to go into Huntington Harbor even if a Frigate was docked there. After 911 they put in a machine gun nest and bottled up the Harbor when frigates were in.
@jaybate-1.0
You and I have some of the same memories of the lake.
Thanks-I will look into it right away.
@VoyagingJayhawk
Thanks -I will be researching your info in the near future.
@VoyagingJayhawk
I never met him, but he was Army. He was in a special unit eventually called Merrill's Marauders working in Burma jungles behind enemy lines.
That unit evolved to the Rangers in time. I've shared this info with Jaybate and others i. The past. I love WWII history and soak it up when ever I can.
If it were in my power every 18 year old should see the Private Ryan movie. And a film of child birth.
While we are all over the place in this thread I might as well digress from Hamburgers. Watching "Jaws" at the moment along with some wine.
To quote Quint. "Here's to swimming with bowlegged women." I hope that brings a laugh to the gents and our gals don't see this or take offense. Just going for a laugh.
PS-there is a joint on Main Street near the pier in Seal Beach I really miss too. It's,been about three years Seaside Grill. Ma and Pa joint.
@JayhawkRock78 said:
@jaybate-1.0
I got that George c. Scott channeling General Patton there.
By they way speaking of WWII I get to tour Normandy this summer. Really looking forward to that. My bet is no way I get out of there without shedding a few tears even though my grandfather served in the Pacific Theatre.
Other than missing In-and-out I miss a joint I. seal Beach near the pier.
@jaybate-1.0
You remind me of my fondness for Whataburger. When I lived on the West Coast I always took the first flight in the morning when flying to Dallas or Houston. 7am departure landed me at noon central time and I would beeline it to a What-a burger to scarf one down. I refused many a lunch meeting for that-and often I'd make another stop before leaving town.
Just like Strouds or a favorite BBQ meal in KC. My sisters made fun of me ordering the same meal every visit. My explanation was I only got to have that mean 2 or 3 times a year.
@brooksmd
What did you think of that odd little hill against the fence in Center Field?
I think he was Forrest Gump's ping pong partner.
@drgnslayr
I will say my wife had fun with all the "extra activities" going on including leaving our seats to go chat and find various snacks. I should have known since she and my daughter watch "Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders" that she would find the Rockets Power Dancers and costume changes just as important as the game. And she loved the music.
As for the athleticism on the floor it has been a LONG time since I have had close seats for an NBA game. I have had great seats for KU games about once a year and I've posted before the athleticism of big men is off the charts compared to my KU days in the 70's.
@5541-james
I think one of the best things about college basketball are the students at the game.
College can and should be a magical time for young people, and it is such a treat to be in Allen fieldhouse when that place is rockin' with college students having the time of their life.
@JRyman
I posted elsewhere I think the SMU call had nothing to do with shoes. To me the smoking gun is viewership as in UCLA is located in a region with 14 million viewers, not to mention the rest of the PAC 12.
@drgnslayr
That's a good way to put it. It is apples and oranges to me. I was in the Toyota Suite at a Rockets game last year. It was like they had three other things going on to entertain you just incase you didn't like NBA basketball.
It reminded me of a scene from the movie "Gladiator". While people are being slain in the Colosseum people aren't watching and having side conversations about anything but the event at hand.
@5541-james
Big time college fan here. Someone gives me tickets to a pro game about once a year.
Be it NBA, NFL, MLB. I go and relax. I SELDOM watch any PRO stuff on TV either. (I did follow KU players who I knew at KU that made it to the NFL like Nolan Cromwell-but once he was out that was it. And I watched Pierce a few times when the Celtics were in the championship playoffs.
I was on an airplane during the superbowl this year. When I got home I asked if there were any good commercials.
@Crimsonorblue22
Thanks-I thought that was the case.
@REHawk
A guy in our office has a brainiac for a kid, and coming out of high school he had enough AP credits to enroll with 60 college hours-basically starting off as a junior at Texas A&M.
He also had a 4 year full ride so the deal is he can apply two years of that scholarship to graduate school at A&M. So wouldn't that work for Perry? Tarik Black came here as a graduate. Didn't we give him a scholarship?
@HawksWin
I've read a number of posts on avoiding injuries including Wiggins holding back and I believe that's true.
I also think back to my youth and remember I didn't like contact in middle school, but the bigger, stronger and older I got the more I liked it. Even on a bball court.
So I think you have some alpha dogs in this mix, and some of these athletes will go all out because that's who they are. Now maybe most the guys who are flying around and fearless aren't NBA bound (Jamari?), but I think there are some NBA prospects that do play all out without holding back (Okafor).
IMO, he could use another year. I would think he could shine next year and improve his chances for a higher pick.
And let the five stacks play with themselves,,, literally.
@JayHawkFanToo
I posted much of the same on another thread. the SMU, final, and several UK games screamed FIX to me and I didn't have a dog in the hunt in any of those games-didn't bet-didn't even fill out a bracket this year.
@RockChalkinTexas
Thanks for posting that RCIT.
Cliff,
Nice touch!
@HawksWin
You are right about the communication problems with kids. My teenagers can write English very well, and at meals know the phones are left in another room.
However they both have real bad habits of saying "uh or like" multiple times-sometimes in the same sentence. We correct them at times but the problem is they are surrounded by kids talking that way all day long.
@jaybate-1.0
I've seen it increasing from year to year and it is getting blatant.
I believe there are real ethic violations and money at work here.
Sometimes they can't pull it off like the UK defeat, but most times they do.
These games KEEP coming down to one or two possessions and I would love it if we could burn it down-but it is just like what we see in politics and the banking home loan disaster. Why aren't people in jail for that???
The US is like a Banana republic now and if the refs can tweek a game they will. I can't say who is pulling the strings-but it is a real problem.
I will say I got to experience some "golden era days" at KU.
Something was in the water in the 60's and 70's with local athletes in the day with track-fooball-swimming.
And we had something going on with great recruiting out of state back then too in other sports. ,title 9 killed men sports programs outside of bBall and even then bBall took a dip.
We took a big dip which Brown, Roy, and Self revived in bBall and
Mangino fixed in football 2006-2008.
I hope,this TV money works it's magic for all sports.
Wow, I am impressed.
Good luck Cliff. We hardly knew ye.
I mentioned the refs on another thread. I went into this game relaxed because I didn't have a dog in the hunt. I did hope Wisconsin would win because it has been so long for them and I've seen more than enough from Duke. But the refs got me riled up as they have several times this year. Doesn't the NFL have a replay crew that over-rules bad calls on the field? We need that in college bBall.
@truehawk93 my daughter and I usually see eye to eye but she chose Duke tonight. I SHOULD have sent her upstairs to the other TV in the second half. She blew off this call and said, "Hey, our refs make wrong calls. all the time in our club ball." She totally p*ssed me off and I said "HEY-this is a COLLEGE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP." , not a high school club game.
I am still pissed about how the Refs tried to throw the Kentucky game and I'm sensitive about these calls. I even told her don't come to me about bad calls in your little high school games if you can't see it in the final four.
One thing I loved about track and field as I've stated before. It is time and distance. Hard to cheat unless you get away with PED's.
@JayHawkFanToo
I traveled heavily for business most of my career and had a tight schedule especially on road from 7 to 7 at a minimum. If I had to cancel a meeting scheduled because of some random test I would have exploded. I wouldn't care if you hit me with a random test at the home office but when you schedule these things back to back and be put in a panic mode when my trips to some cities were only 2 or 3 times a year I would lose it.
I don't know if I am just working for careful companies, but I have been giving urine samples after job offers for decades. The last two they checked the temperature to make sure I didn't carry it in.
Just wanted to add an example of PED's limitations.
I knew a great kid at KU-had a thin frame and not much testosterone, and not much speed. But he loved hanging around athletes. He started working out without much progress at first, but within two years looked like a freak. It never did anything for his speed and little for his agility. He tried to walk-on at KU for football and didn't make it.
I think the coaches protected him and KU both.
@drgnslayr
We were told they would be tested for PED's, and I didn't hear about anyone who tested positive. I suppose that could have happened, and it was handled quietly.
They told us everyone would get tested but for all I know they only ran a small percentage?
I will say there is a HUGE emphasis at our school for scholastic performance and most kids know they won't be playing DIV 1 sports in college. They study hard, and go to practice. I SELDOM see or hear about this kids putting in the extra effort many of us put in on our time to compete at a higher level athletically. That said, we didn't have year round AAU sports either.
I am not so naïve to think there isn't some drinking and recreational drugs involved with some of the kids but again it could be something that was handled quietly if they were caught? I don't think they said anything about testing for that. but I would have been okay with it.
You mentioned expense: Here is a story about Texas testing/expense/cheaters/etc.
I've been on my soapbox here about cheating before. While I hate cheating, I was very happy this program could reduce the pressure to use PED's and keep kids clean- because they can ruin themselves. Someone I know got leukemia and died from it way back when. I never made the connection but one day at a reunion I found out the deceased blamed steroid use. I never knew he used them until then.
@drgnslayr
In the 70's I can remember getting tested early in the track season-but that seemed left to chance concerning the timing. I also remember giving a sample at the Big Eight Championships.
I know they've tested both my kids in school and I am happy about that-because the kids know they will be tested I'm sure it will help stop some kids who would cheat if they could.
So my guess is they test these college athletes at least a couple of times including March.
@Lulufulu
Not that I am not a big Mangino fan, and I know you said bBall coach-but I would cast our big man as Jabba.
Please, enjoy your bBall victory. What is posted was not meant to be a downer on fun and March Madness
. Just a separate comment about something wonderful that continues in our culture for those of us who by grace have been saved. It isn't about us, it is about something greater than us.. Happy Easter.
This is the only site I follow on a regular basis or post on for that matter.
I attended an early service today. So for those who would hear this message, I simply repeat what our paster said. "He has Risen."
And the people said, "He has risen indeed."
And good for you. Your team helped the college basketball game tonight. THANK YOU.
Can't remember so many of us show as following a thread/threàds on KU buckets. Especially when we weren't playing. Great feature approx and bskeet. Man you two ROCK. This site gives us something to smile about after we were sent home early. THANK YOU.
@Bosthawk
Exactly my thoughts.
SO HAPPY TO SEE UK GO DOWN!!!
Oops. I didn't think someone would be playing games with the numbers.
@Crimsonorblue22
Championships are hard to come by and worthy of framing. Framing one game or printing T-shirts for one game is just a JOKE. Tell them I said so.
WOW,
Great read. He is averaging 17.6 points, 15 rebounds in 36 minutes.
Those are great stats for TRob.
So Shaka is an Obama fan.
I can count on one hand the Obama bumper stickers I've seen in Houston. I'm sure there are closet fans, but everyone I know thinks if he isn't on the wrong side of an issue, he is asleep at the wheel.
Austin however is has a lot of liberals. (Not that we don't have liberals in Houston politics.). Anyway, most of Longhorn nation is conservative so Sharka will have to walk the line. Not sure he can or even cares.
He sure slammed KU with that Big 12 comment. Makes me hope he gets kicked in the teeth right out of the gate.
And I liked Rick Barnes-he was a classy guy. Still Football is king at UT and when suffering in that arena, basketball gets more attention.
I sure wish the big12 would have won more games this March. We need to perform a lot better next year and as for Sharka I hope we take him down every time we play.
@Crimsonorblue22
Great idea. Thank you.