@Crimsonorblue22
I don't have access to FB but LOVE Stigler and was super excited hearing about his resurgence at the Texas Relays. This year I could not swing being there and I am kicking myself for missing such a wonderful performance.
JayhawkRock78
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@Crimsonorblue22
Thanks for asking about my boy. Sad news is he only has two weeks before district-
Last year our 4-400 advanced to area/region and missed state. Which is VERY hard to reach Texas with so many athletes.
No way I see him able to run the 200 again his senior season, but we had a chance to go far in the 4x400 again-now not so much.
But he figured out he wouldn't be a track athlete in Div 1 power
conference college long ago as he knew his strengths were in math and science-just the opposite of me and I am very happy about that.
Brains over brut and good for him.
@Crimsonorblue22
I learned a few things from Knight's comments-although he got his players mixed up at times.
Thought of you tonight 22. I was at the Rice Relays to watch my son run. There was a U of H coach setting to my left. He had a cap and sunglasses on but something looked familiar. A high school coach in front of him turned and asked a question. As soon as he spoke it hit me.
Carl Lewis. I thought when my son finishes his race I will introduce him. Unfortunately my boy pulled a muscle and I went to assist with his things-when I looked back to our area he had left.
PS-some great high school athletes there. The qualifying times for the 400 finals were sub 50 seconds.
@nuleafjhawk
In 1987 there was a "one of a kind store" in Southern California that I visited one day. I saw a letter signed by Abraham Lincoln on sale for $11,000. It was way over my credit card limit so I didn't even think about buying it. A few days later I went to my credit union to see if I could get a 10k loan on my signature. They said yes-I went back to the store and it was gone. Still kicking myself for not putting a down payment on that letter the first minute I saw it.
@tundrahok
I'm with you-if I have to choose one or the other get the UCLA streak first. But can we at least play to our seed in March?
@HawksWin
Tennessee
@BeddieKU23
Good for Barnes. He stated someone in the Texas Athletic Department leaked the info on firing assistants or else. That is what he is most upset with. He wouldn't fire his assistants even though they offered. Good luck at UT. Maybe he can trip up UK now and then.
@drgnslayr
Schmoozing the alums is very important as you mentioned. I heard more than once that Billy Gillespie didn't do enough during his short tenure at Kentucky.
@drgnslayr
Agreed that Self throws things out there "in French". Things like who will play where-Evan Manning at guard-who is injured/playing, who could be our best players.
I think sometimes he doesn't want to show his hand, sometimes he is throwing out comments to confuse another coach or keep his own players on their toes. And last of all I've heard him give strange answers to what he/we would consider a stupid question.
I've always been careful about that. I had a working vacation set-up in Alaska years ago and flew my father in to Anchorage to meet us. As it happened Mario Chalmers was on the flight with him returning from a KU recruiting trip. Dad pointed him out to me in the baggage claim and we thought about speaking to him. I wasn't clear on the rules (I am a WEF member) and decided not to.
I've since looked into it because my kids are friends with some top athletes. It turns out if you've known them for years as in family friend there is no problem. But I can't approach someone I barely know and put a good word in for KU.
@REHawk
I don't remember that, but it sounds like she had good intensions.
I should have gone into the Seinfeld -George Castanza mode this year: I did not like a lot of teams, yet I wanted KU to win a lot which I knew was a long shot. I didn't even bother to fill out a bracket.
If I have put a bracket together with who I liked, and who I thought was good early on--- and then bet the opposite.,..I would have a great bracket.
@truehawk93
ND blew a simple inbounds play for a chance at go ahead points and turned it over. That was before the last UK drive-not to mention running out the shot clock and a very poor shot selection. All befor the 6 second desparation shot at the end. They had the game or OT at hand and did not execute at the end after doing it all game long. Such a shame I SO wanted to stop the streak and send UK home.
Nice read.
Back in the 70's we were lifting all out in the off season 3 days a week.
During the season, we might lift heavy two days and light one day.
And during peak times it was one moderate session for a week or two.
As for a championship week it was VERY light -easy and fast- once , maybe twice a week at best. The way I remember it going with a full lifting workout would keep whatever strength you had with just one workout per week.
There is a bit about it on ESPN.
Looking at the comments-most say let him go now.
They like his recruiting but point to underperformance.
Maybe there is a bit in the rules that schools are allowed to give a couple of tickets to players who return after graduation. Remember seeing our former players sitting behind the KU bench? In kind maybe gives them the okay to give something of value not to exceed $200 per year. Attend a banquet, etc.
I would bet Coach Smith had this base covered before he put it in writing.
AND if the NCAA tried to raise a fuss about this they'd have a revolt on their hands.
@ralster
Credit "The Pelican Brief" and who stood to gain from taking out the two members of the court. It was Matice and his oil money.
Everybody was calling out UCLA when they got in the dance. To their credit they won games, but the first one against SMU? How many people follow San Diego St. Or UC Irvine?
I would hope it isn't so, but this one just screamed FOUL.
@wissoxfan83
Talk away. I was critical about a player going public with a comment prior to playing his opponent.
@sfbahawk
I apologize for writing "pissed off". I over reacted by writing that and I'm sorry.
This stuff is a real sore spot with me that goes back to my upbringing and my skin is real thin because I see it every day. Texting and driving isn't against the law yet but I see it everyday in Houston traffic. And so on.
@sfbahawk
It is lack of accountability and what you can get away with. Our culture isn't what it was. Dent a car in a parking lot and don't leave a note. That's the world today.
When I was a kid and broke a neighbors window I had to apologize and then measure it, go buy a replacement at the hardware store and replace it.
Sports have changed. Even at my teenage daughters level. It is what you can get away with until the ref will finally make the call after five trips up and down the court. And coaches and parents must be teaching it.
If cheating is okay in sports-then kids will think it is okay in the classroom,
@sfbahawk
So how is the 78-39 score looking to you now as not " board worthy" from a kid saying a 36-0 team will be 36-1 tonight?
I still think it is very stupid for a kid to make that statement before playing a team that has one of the best records in college bBall history.
I am not not a,UK fan, but more,than anything I don't like people who make outlandish statements before the fact. If you must do some bragging-do it AFTER you've made something happen.
@sfbahawk
I will add something more. You said you were a manager for track in the 60's?
Did you see Jim Ryan pulling on Jerseys? Did you hear coach Timmons telling his Runners to do it???
You are pissing me off, because I competed for KU track AND NEVER HEARD any coach or athlete suggest it or admit they were going to do it.
It may be more common today but that doesn't make it OKAY as long as you can get away with it.
I live on a golf course and have a lot of damage to my home and cars by balls hit out of bounds, There are signs in the clubhouse they are responsible. Is anyone held accountable when I report -golf cart # , hole #, at 1:20 pm today? NO.
The clubhouse says yes we have a sign that they are responsible to damage to private property but they won't even confront them when I report it?
When I coached kids I benched them for a cheating foul. Not an honest foul-but -when they did something dirty or obvious like they knew it was wrong and did it anyway.
There is not enough accountability today in our culture.
You are right-and I think it is sad.
I am old school and taught my children, and anyone who played for me to play by the rules. I never approved of cheating. Just because it is out of control doesn't make it right.
That is why I loved track and field. Time and distance in front of everyone every time. Everybody knew the champ. And drug testing fixed the cheaters.
@sfbahawk
Do remember Dennis Stewart? I got to go on a road trip with him once while I was an athlete.
He would have been at KU about your time and was part of a worLd record relay teem.
Long story short my hight school dream was to jump to the Big 8 indoor in KC in front of my family and it happened my frosh year at KU.
I am so happy about that because at least that happened-and then they went to the ICE HOCKEY-K C \ OMAHA KINGS bBall stock yards Kemper Arena stuff.
@ralster
Honestly I didn't even fill out a bracket this year. As exciting as it was to get Wiggins & Embiid last year we fell short. I was hopeful this year-again we are out early.
So,I never bothered with a bracket. I guess my high school kids are making it all up due to the void.
@ralster
I don't know what Self or anyone said after that-but if they said anything at all it didn't matter. Heavily favored KU went home and VCU advanced.
I'm just glad I told friends and family DO NOT buy air plane tickets before the weekend was over. My father even pressured me to buy game tickets and I refused having been down this path too many times.
I don't always bargain with terrorist...
But when I do I prefer trading the five most dangerous captives for one US deserter.
Is anyone else angry about this? I know this isn't a political forum, but as my signature says- common sense isn't...
EVEN at a HUGE scale.
@sfbahawk
Sorry I wasted your time-so how many times have you heard a player say that about a team that has a 36 -0 record.
I too credit the 3 point shooting of VCU, but is trash talking smart?
Maybe you can find a prominent coach who instructs his players to do it? I don't think it is a smart thing to do.
http://cw39.com/2015/03/26/dean-smith-left-200-in-his-will-for-each-player-to-enjoy-a-nice-dinner/ ↗
What a classy move. You still do us proud coach. I will bet some of your players just frame it instead.
@sfbahawk
My father raised me to work hard and compete hard, but not cheat during competition.
Cheating is rampant today-the attitude is do it if you can get away with it-look at all the jersey holding or holding of arms all the time.
He also told me to keep my mouth shut. The same thing with my coaches. Take care of business and no smack talk-better no talking to them at all.
@approxinfinity
Now that would make me VERY happy.
@sfbahawk
Then you were there for some of our best years. I imagine you enjoyed it and saw some great events.
As for the legs, we studied films of Dick Fosbury at the Mexico Olympics and the officials were doing the same thing - lifting a leg.
@oldhwkfan
Sorry for the typo-I meant WVU.
@Crimsonorblue22
HJ, LJ, at KU, plus TJ and sprints in high school along with football.
I was very fortunate to have HAll of Fame coaches resulting in lots of championships.
Big Mouths
WVU's Miles just told the press UK will be 36-1.
I HATE it when these kids shoot their mouths off before a competition as in calling out a specific team. I think WSU's chances for a win just went way down.
I still remember one of the Morris boys told a VCU player " the streak stops here" right before the tip-off. You don't think that kid fired up his teammates with that statement.
I love confidence-just keep it among your team mates.
@drgnslayr
Absolutely there were times we would level off in performance. But our coach also had a method where he changed workouts around to try to get us to peak 2 to 3 times in the season-and it worked-primarily in the weight room.
Regardless of manipulation like that I think the body naturally levels off -maybe it's something at work trying to protect the body, maybe from injury?
I posted a while back I think viewership plays a role in bad calls late in the game. A goaltending call eliminates the small SMU fan base vs huge UCLA viewership.
@justanotherfan
I need to qualify the time period I was talking about spanned from when I was 15 to 22 years old. As a sophomore in HS I was a string bean at 5'11", 135 pounds. I graduated HS 6' 1" , 185 pounds. Some of that was DNA and a decent amount of fast twitch muscles. I was pretty fast in high school and stronger than most. Then after a year of college training table food, much harder training and some physical maturation I was clearly another level above. At the end of the next year I was even stronger however my performance barely increased, The following year I got a bit stronger yet had zero increase in performance- I had already peaked. There were a few around me who continued to improve over time but the majority peaked as sophomores.
I think I really mead to attend a few work out sessions in College,bBall.
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@justanotherfan
Here is what I believe whole heartedly. You can only get so far athletically training against your own weight. Training with weights more than body weight wether it be push-ups vs bench press or squats WITH weights give you a HUGE advantage of building strength.
I am 100% convinced I got faster and stronger because weight training gave me more strength in muscle to bone ratio. I could move my frame faster and higher because of increased muscle strength relative to my frame. And as I got to my peak years testosterone wise the same body mass (I stopped gaining weight but kept getting stronger.) took me to another level-but then I peaked out. Three years of the same training that got me there leveled out, I could not get any stronger.
But that happens -diminishing returns.
@Crimsonorblue22
Clifford Wiley. There is a good wiki page on him. He started out in the 100 and 200- later in his career went to the 400. Fastest man in the US AND world in the 400 when Carter boycotted the 1980 Olympics (because they were in Afghanistan of all things.)
@drgnslayr
The one guy that took ballet-arguably the greatest sprinter in KU history.
I was like you-a ton of weight training in high school and college in the 70's. Unfortunately some of the stuff they had us do was wrong in the weight-room: like explode and relax doing fast reps, rather than go slow up and down. The only resistance we had outside was a 40 pound weight vest.
So much has improved since then and this vertimax looks great. If my son wasn't down to his last 5 weeks of competitive athletics I would look into it.
btw, speaking of two sports helping each other-one year coach required us to take Karate or Ballet. Most chose Karate of course. I will say it absolutely helped my concentration and flexibility
@Crimsonorblue22
Thanks. That's a great read and good news.
We all knew they'd be printing shirts about ONE game-one team.
At least I've never seen a KU shirt like that. Ours relate to championships or March madness-sweet 16-etc.
SUPER NEWS for one of my favorites. You go get-em TROB.
ahem, Isn't Roy in deep doo doo for wrongdoings and UNC. The NCAA hammer will be dropping soon.
@wissoxfan83
Boy you've got me thinking about a number of those. Many thanks.