@BShark said in KU-UK Game Chat:
@FarmerJayhawk said in KU-UK Game Chat:
@approxinfinity those two with Juan on the floor would be an amazing train wreck 😂
One of the top 10 worst KU accounts on twitter said the starting line-up should be Juan/Gradey/Jalen/KJ/Udeh. HOWLING.
He's a little "phoggy".
Slowing the tempo down for conference games has ground us down. We will win if we run; we will lose if we don't.
@nuleafjhawk I want them to play fast- not slow.
I hate to interrupt the coaching clinic, but Mitch has a message:
We are so good, adversaries pretend to be "fans"on our boards, and troll us. We live inside their brains 24/7. They want to be us, and can't, so they hate us.
I think my 14-4 conference floor is in danger, but can't blame a guy for wanting to think the best about this team. KenPom had us finishing 11-7 in conference preseason, so 12-6 and/or 13-5 are certainly in play. TOUGH league. Best in the nation, and it's not even close. Worst case: we end up 11-7. That would put us at 8 losses, probably 9 losses going into the tournament. The fact we have complied the most Quad 1 games, along with the toughest schedule known to man would still put us in competition for a #2 or a #3 seed. Put us in the Purdew bracket, and let us go to town.
I think we beat Tucky. Truthfully, I'm more worried about the 3 games after Saturday's game than this one. Although we owe those egg sucking dogs a beatdown.
The beauty of a Bill Self team is they always seem to overcome whatever criticism the fans have. Whether it's a player, a strategy, an offense, etc. Whatever we think we know, he knows it x 3. Case in point: MJ comes in, immediately loses his man,who casually waltzed to the rim for an uncontested layup. Within 5 seconds of him coming in. We've bantered about MJ getting more time, and it would seem logical to say let MJ play through his mistakes. But, maybe the mistakes aren't from lack of knowledge; maybe they're from lack of effort. If his offense is a bonus, maybe the lack of defense completely offsets it. The truth is, we don't know.
@wissox said in Baylor Game Tonight:
@kuballin10 "We make a great comeback and get screwed by the refs". Read the game thread. About 10 comments in a row after the comeback about this call and that call. Equally bad? Not sure, but my comment was about that critical stretch where we get bumped and nada, and then tap guy on shoulder and ref calls a foul. Pretty egregiously bad reffing there.
Go ahead rag on our point guard. He spectacularly led this team to a national championship. He's hit a bit of a wall here like everyone else besides Jalen but your estimation of how bad he's hurting this team is way off.
And again, your takes would be easier to stomach if you ever thought it was ok to say something good during a game chat, but you're so predictable in when you comment.
Block him. He isn't a KU fan- he's a troll.
It was fun thinking we were going to go through the B12 undefeated. We were going to be the overall number 1 seed, and repeat as national champions, even though we lost 4 out of 5 of our top scorers from last year. Now we're back to "Self's pets" and Self has "blinders" as we lose games in January.
It looks so great, then it looks so grim. We don't like our players-we don't like our coach. We were a FF team- now we won't make it past the first weekend. Lather, rinse, repeat. Every year.
I hope we win tonight. I know it's going to be tough. I hope we win Saturday- I know it's going to be tough. And the next 3 games after that- tough. Still, I wouldn't trade our program or our coach for anybody else in college basketball. We truly are one of the most spoiled fanbases in the world. UNC, Villanova, Dook would give their left nut to be 16-3 right now.
Confession: Last year, after we lost our 2nd game in a row ( TCU), I came to the conclusion that last year's team was never going to win anything- that this group of players ( Och, Dave, CB, and Remy ) would never win because they just weren't clutch. I even posted that I thought Bill had lost the team. And then we win every game. Every. Game. for the rest of the year. So, I kind of sold them short, which I don't normally do. I'm normally the other way. But not last year. Doesn't mean we're going to magically win 17 in a row this year- we have issues, no doubt. But, I'm not going to get off the best ride in town. I've been following this show since 1972, and I'm going to keep following it, win or lose.
The winner of Chiefs/Cincy will win the Superbowl.
We have a game like this every year. People forget we're in a rebuild year after winning the national championship. We're still a good team but we're going to lose every time we defend like that. On to the next one- hopefully we can have a good game against Baylor.
Alright...let's play some defense, guys...
@drgnslayr said in K-St Game Thread:
Caught that, too. It was spot on. Everything except him trying to take a punch for the team by blaming himself for the timeout. At the time he started to signal the TO Jalen wasn't shooting yet and at that moment our team needed the structure of a play. Had JWil missed the shot, everyone would have been saying "thank God" Self called it.
I've been vibing in for quite a while that MJ isn't whole. Think it's back spasms that come and go and will be with him through the remaining part of the season.
Spot on about Kevin remembering shots. Kevin is thinking too much instead of just playing with a free consciousness. The perfect example of who to mimic is JWil. He's as good as any Jayhawk we have ever had about playing in the moment and being free. Really love that about him and we are getting a plus on our results because of that.
I think we need to consider Harris' minutes down the stretch of this season and try (whenever possible) to give him rest, both in games and other times.
I'm really bummed about MJ and hope I'm wrong. I viewed him as our "late Remy surprise" going down the stretch of this season and into March.
Would be a big help if one big started "getting it"... not sure if it will happen. First... they are all so different from KJ and the other 4 players are used to KJ exploiting his speed and strength. Guess that says more about how valuable KJ has become over the season so far.
I still think this team has another gear to hit. Just not sure if we will be fresh enough down the stretch to kick into it. Some things we just don't know until we are there. What happens if we drop several upcoming games, including maybe a blowout? Suddenly the Jayhawk Nation questions the quality of this team... suddenly we have a chip! How will they react?
We were 6 for 29 from 3. We missed 10 free throws. 3 starters fouled out. We were down double digits. We end up losing by 1 on the road against the best Silo team since Jacob Pullen, Beasley and company.
My chief concern is playing starters too many minutes, and wearing our guys down. We don't get easy buckets at all. We don't want to play fast, so we end up in these grinders that suck the life out of a team. Joe has got to get more minutes. Same with Bobby. Zuby has got to get up to snuff.
Gradey was completely gassed, and was leaving lots of shots short. Kevin is in the mindzone, where the thinker is stopping the do'er. KJ was simply a revelation the first half, and Jalen had his best day ever as a jayhawk, imo.
Juan is not letting the game come to him and is pressing with mistakes he doesn't usually make. He was gassed and injured after the fall, and played like it. Free your mind, Juan. We know how good you are. Just go have fun again.
TCU is going to let us run and we should be able to score easier. Of course, so will they. We've had good luck against running teams ( Misery comes to mind), so it should be a fun game. Would love to see Kev and Juan just relax and play ball the way we know they can. Like you said, we certainly haven't played our best game yet.
@benshawks08 said in Other games:
@wissox In the last 5 seasons (about 75 home games) we've played 21 ranked opponents at home. (I could be wrong on this for sure)
We played 4 ranked teams at home last year. Overall, we played 10 games vs. ranked opponents last year in the reg season , so the majority of our games against ranked teams were either away or at neutral sites.
Gonzaga's 75 home game win streak was snapped last night by LMU. The irony is during the 75 games, the mighty Zags played two (2) ranked opponents. Cupcakes, anyone?
@bskeet said in Shut up Fran. Nice Game Jaylen. Shut up Fran:
Fran usually has his bias veiled. He is a professional and he works hard to keep it objective. Occasionally -- and last night was one of those nights -- he can't help himself and he leaks. Paraphrasing one nugget "KState is doing well to keep up with KU right now despite the calls going their way."
I posit that there was really no period in that game where the calls were going KU's way.
He wants to establish a narrative about KU getting all the calls. This is an underhanded way to discredit us. The question becomes...why does he want to discredit us? It is pressure from ESPN through their vast dealings with Nike? It is just a personal bias? I really don't know. He literally spends the whole game discussing how to beat us, he completely ignores blatant fouls against us, and magnifies any foul we commit that isn't called. I know Scott Drew filled his mind up with crap concerning the officiating at the Phog a few years back. Is he trying to secretly sabotage us?
@wissox said in Tang Press Conference about KU Game:
Twitter showing KState fans for who they are and telling Tang to just worry about coaching. Those idiot fans are going to run him out of town first chance they get when things go a little sour. They're Nazareth and Jerome is Jesus. If you're unfamiliar when Jesus went back to Nazareth, the town he was raised in they rejected Him and the people ran him out of town to throw him off the nearby mountain and he did one of His miracles and just walked through them. He said He'd never go back there again.
You should write a weekly column. As they say, you have skills!
I guess the Misery fans started chanting "F KU" last night in their game against Arkansas. Rent free.
WVU getting jobbed by the refs.
I told fran he was full of s***, and he told me I needed to get out more, LOL. On Twitter. He had compared a freshman to Frank Mason, and I told him the kid had a long way to go before he could be compared to Frank. He replied he knew Frank better than me, and I should go breath some fresh air and get out more...lol.
it could be worse...wonder how Dook and Tucky are enjoying their season so far?
the clones are about to beat texas. very nice...
next game is even tougher- TCU.
@approxinfinity said in K-St Game Thread:
Thought all the iowa state fans had their shirts off then realized it was a white out.
i forgot that was on....thanks!
@Kcmatt7 said in K-St Game Thread:
@kuballin10 said in K-St Game Thread:
@Kcmatt7 said in K-St Game Thread:
One thing is certain: We need more from Kevin going forward if we’re winning the conference.
This and Juan scoring is the key. Everything else can be fixed but these two not looking to score we become very beatable by anyone
Juan looked to score tonight in a way. He took 6 threes…. He just can’t turn the ball over in crunch time 3 times like he did tonight.
He had a bad night for sure. But I think he makes good plays to end games more often than he doesn’t.
I'm am going to give him the benefit of the doubt- he fell right on his head, and had to be taken to the locker room.
@approxinfinity said in K-St Game Thread:
Yeah. Kevin needs to stop thinking about anything other than the immediate play. I dont think he is being asked to be what he isnt. But he seems out of it on d, uncharacteristic
He was trying to guard Keyonte, and he was having a world of trouble with it.
I certainly don't come out this game thinking we got beat by a better team. I think they got incredibly lucky in the 1st half, and got some real good fortune from the refs in the 2nd half and OT.
I think JW should've defended Johnson more. He just ate him up when he defended him. I understand we can't afford to lose JW, but we end up fouling out Kev, Gradey and KJ trying to handle him. 10 more minutes on Johnson from JW, and we win this game by 10.
their superbowl..dammit
wow...
let's win this thing...
let's get a stop
great job, bill
you can say that again...
JW's best game ever...
JW's best game ever...
we have to get in front of him, and take the charge
come on...let's go on a run.....
hey...Silo Tech is really good...
this has an ncaa tourney feel to it, doesn't it?
as much as i have not liked kev's game tonite, he is a much better matchup for johnson.
Hopefully juando is 100%
it's fitting that we finally take the lead and jw scores the points...
Jalen has been a hero for us...
kev is simply a no show tonight. he's never got out of the blocks tonite.
to me, our players look tired. why isn't joe in there, at least?
@FarmerJayhawk said in K-St Game Thread:
32% career shooter throwing up junk lol
ultimate junkballer hitting everything....
@jayballer67 said in K-St Game Thread:
We can JUST NOT get this fricken thing tied- -then Sills playing out his ass
we haven't taken control of the game once. if we could've hit our free throws, we'd be right there.
our guys look gassed...
time for joe...