@KUSTEVE you just compared a basketball game to a massacre of 200 people.
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@Crimsonorblue22 Looks like a picture of Memorial Stadium...
@jaybate-1.0 Who will be pocketing money?
What does Meth have to do with donating money and why would that be a caveat of yours in this scenario?
Please pass the hat around and see if you can raise $1m+ to donate. Let me know how much you get.
How would this game be tainted with slavery and recent racism?
@globaljaybird I don’t know if you’re proving my point or trying to make a new one?
@jaybate-1-0 I hate dontating money too. THE worst. God forbid our university be associated with it in any way. I hope our current students and future alumni follow our current alumni’s lead and make sure that we never donate money to a good cause ever again. WHAT A PR NIGHTMARE! Self should probably be fired for this complete F-up. Absolutely embarrassing. If he ever even thinks about raising over a million dollars for charity again, he might as well pack up his office for good. Because I, for one, can’t stand when people can put aside their differences for a good cause. Just like the government, if it is bipartisan and good for the country, we probably shouldn’t do it.
So this makes me feel two new things.
1. FBI thing less scary.
2. Chances at Zion just went up
Hell yes though!
How many people are going to complain that he said Kansas University? lol
The sound quality is brutal
@KUSTEVE take what, what way?
I'm still finishing the video. until I see him wearing a hat or get a bleacher report update I won't believe a word you guys say.
@BShark Way to ruin the video. Jerk.
@BeddieKU23 That always cracks me up. It is like all my HS friends who went to the same college and lived with each other.
To me, College is the one time in your life you should branch out, get uncomfortable and find yourself. If after 4 years you end up back in the same dinky town at the same local bar hanging out with the same people you did the 4 years before, nothing is wrong with that. But you at least found out that was where you belonged.
I would think the best thing for these players would be to get as far away from anyone with any influence on them, get a little uncomfortable and learn how to battle some adversity. I would think that goes a long ways in building the character for the next level.
@JayHawkFanToo RS Sophomore I believe
@jayballer54 Yea I'm watching it right now. Although it is a bit creepy. I feel like i'm just spying on people.
@mayjay That link someone posted for sure it looks like
@BeddieKU23 Is he a shiny PG? Or more like the perfect college PG? I'm just genuinely curious. Bill obviously needs to make Dotson a success in order to keep getting high end PGs. But he isn't Derrick Rose, Kyrie Irving, DeArron Fox, Trevon Duvall or any of those super freaks is he?
If Bill gets Dotson to the NBA in his 2nd year, do we start getting attention from top 10 PGs finally?
I've said it over and over, I wonder what Bill Self does with a top 5 PG. I think him and a freak PG would win a NC providing we have our other usual Blue Blood talent around one. But that is just this one man's opinion.
Bill Self hoping to raise over $1m with this. I think it is safe to say ticket sales will not be an issue.
I never feel confident in these types of recruitment's. Even with the cb run.
@mayjay Vendors at parks close and quit selling early all the time. Bars might like it better. I'd be more likely to go watch a game at a bar during the week if I knew it would be over at 10pm or else it would be such a good game it went into extra innings so it would be worth staying up the extra time for.
@mayjay I miss channel surfing (I stream everything from my parents TV subscription). That is where I used to learn all my bar trivia!
@mayjay Maybe those of you who like it the way it is will like it even more if the game is played at a faster pace.
@wissox He would have earned it. He just fouled off at least 6 pitches at that point...
10 minute half innings or 3 outs, whichever comes first, would be really interesting to watch. Has to be a pitch every 25 seconds for all balls not put in play or it is a ball.
There are so many options for speeding up the game. Like I said, I just think that it needs to be a M-Th change though. Last nights game was awesome and intense. I loved it. But a regular season game that starts at 9 on West Coast is almost impossible to finish as a fan.
@KUSTEVE Sports Psychology 200: "Self" Motivation
@KUSTEVE Yea why would you not create a basketball degree now at this point? A's for anyone who takes the class.
@justanotherfan No more meetings at the mount, period. They are all just tactical time delays.
And 8 pitches would be better, IMO. But i really like the ideas!
@JayHawkFanToo Factual. Not personal.
@dylans You may have missed it or just jumped in halfway through without reading the thread, but I already stated that I have donated. And I did not need to donate for anything in return either.
Does it matter that a lot of money could be donated to Hurricane Aid? Why do we care if it is a cover-up? As long as money does get donated to people who very much need it, does it matter?
I don't even think it is a cover personally. It takes a little more logistics than just calling up the Sprint Center and Mizzou and asking them if they are free next Sunday. The timing was purely coincidental. That story the UDK published was trash and a great big nothingburger. It hasn't even been picked up by a major network because I'm sure that they file FOIA requests all the time and literally get the same response.
@JayHawkFanToo I didn't refer to you in that scenario. I will be glad to agree to disagree with you, on the basis that I feel like you did absolutely no research or math or anything to further your argument other than rely on your stubbornness, emotions and assumptions.
@mayjay I didn't actually specifically call anyone selfish... But agreed. I just got a little carried away when people basically said they would rather money not get donated to Hurricane relief that could really help people that now literally have nothing, than see this basketball game get played. But like I said, you are right, I shouldn't have called anyone selfish for that no matter how selfish it is.
My preference would be to have regular baseball on Friday, Saturday and Sunday and throughout the Playoffs. But, M-Th I would prefer a clock or at least a mechanism to speed the game up. Who can take their kids to a Wednesday night baseball game and stay up? Who can wake up and get to work at 7 AM the next morning and not feel it at least a little bit? A little compromise would work. JMO though.
@HighEliteMajor Right? I call someone selfish for not wanting money to be donated to charity (not even asking them to donate the money themselves) and get crap from the very same person who then calls other people trash without knowing what they do on their own time.
@JayHawkFanToo First of all, a percentage off the top is funny. It is more like 50-50 split. Except that AEG gets the first 16% and then it is split 50-50 after that. Also, it is 100% AEGs decision as to whether or not the donate a game to charity. NOT the cities. Secondly, the city pays back those bonds with taxes on hotels and rental cars. Not the building itself. So, yes, AEG very well could "donate" the facilities and there isn't a damn thing that the city could do about it. Nor would it really affect the city in any way. The money the city makes from the Building, doesn't pay back the bonds. It is the reason that the Sprint Center has been upgraded before. Those funds go back into the building or to unrestricted city use.
And both teams will play their players. Last season, Frank played 52 minutes in two exhibitions last season. Devonte played 50 minutes. Josh Jackson played 45 minutes. Year before: Frank played 47 minutes in two games, Perry Ellis played 48 minutes and Devonte played 55 minutes. Year before that: Perry played 39 minutes. Frank played 45 minutes, Wayne played 41 minutes. The players we want to see will play 20 hard minutes damn near guaranteed. Which I would very much play full price for.
If the coaches already figured it out, why do we play the other two exhibition games? I mean that is also a meaningless risk for injury right? And yet our players appear to play hard and for 20 minutes at least. I just don't see your point being factual in any way whatsoever. You couldn't find data to support your claim if you wanted to. Bill Self is competitive and will play his team to win the game when push comes to shove. Doesn't matter who they are playing.
Do you, or do you not agree that paying to play is the same quid pro quo as not paying to play?
What is the main reason you are so against this?
I am also going to challenge you, @HawkInMizery, and @Crimsonorblue22 to start a crowd source funding page to try to raise money to see this game not happen. If you do in fact raise more money than will get donated to Hurricane relief than if the game were to be played, I will gladly succeed all points I have made. I won't watch the game, and I will donate to your fund as well. But, if you don't raise enough money, you should not watch the game or support it in any way and you should donate the cost of a ticket to charity anyways.
@JayHawkFanToo That is only assuming that the Sprint Center is actually charging both teams to host the event. I doubt that they are since they can just write this off as a charitable donation on their taxes and probably actually make more money doing that since they can get the full cost of the revenue they will "lose" written off of their taxes. As most corporations do. So instead of charging revenue and getting taxed on it. They can "donate" the facility and any revenue they would have made will be able to be written off on their taxes instead. So now they get their revenue plus the 33% tax they would have gotten on profits from it.
And, I guess we will see about ticket prices when they are released. I'll go ahead and bet that they aren't cheap and they do sell out. At full prices if not higher. I feel pretty confident that Devonte will still get 25ish minutes at the very least. If transfers can't play, I feel pretty confident in that because then only 9 guys would be able to play right? I bet Cuonzo plays his best for a lot of minutes as well. He needs to see what he has. This will be a lot more competitive of a game than you are giving it credit for. Devonte would have played 30 minutes in Rome if there was a close game. Bill is too competitive. I would count on the same for this.
Finally, I agree that it would be the right thing to do just to donate. Something I have (and you have too apparently) done already. But now this is a chance to get money from those who haven't donated yet. Or more from those that wouldn't have otherwise donated more. And those who say that they would donate money instead of seeing this game are only willing to donate money in order for this game not to happen. It isn't noble or less selfish. It is still a quid pro quo. Donation for no game is just as much of a quid pro quo as a donation for the game.
@Texas-Hawk-10 left field porch sure plays into Yankees hangs though. I agree they should, but I feel like we will see a few HRs to LF from the Yanks. Not that we won’t see the same from the Astros.
@dylans you haven’t been to a Sprint Center game I take it. Or a preseason exhibition game where the GA, student or big donor seats aren’t full. Add another 3,000 seats to that and combine it with a one weeks notice.
Nobody sells that out. And not at the prices you can sell this game for.
@Crimsonorblue22 That isn't the scenario we are in.
A game vs. KSU makes no sense for either team strategically. UMKC wouldn't sell out. Wichita St. might have sold out. Maybe. Nebraska wouldn't sell out. There isn't anyone within driving distance who could play this game next Sunday and sell out the Sprint Center.
This is a guaranteed sell out and it will sell out in a day once tickets go up for sale. At outrageous prices I would assume.
Who else could make that work? Logistically. Who could get their team to KC to play a sold out game? Pull their players out of class for the time needed to play that game? Who would be willing to give up practices even if they flew in Saturday and left Sunday after the game? Nope.
I'm sorry, but this makes sense. Both economically and logistically.
Who would of thought the 24 year old on the forum would be the rational one in this discussion...
@Crimsonorblue22 doesn't make someone unselfish in this particular scenario. I don't care if Saint Teresa didn't want this game played. She would be wrong and acting very selfish.
Unless singular donations would raise more money than this game, not wanting it played is selfish. Childish. Whatever you want to call it. Putting your wants before the NEEDS of others. GROW UP. It is a basketball game. It doesn't mean a damn thing in the whole scheme of things in this world. But this one game could raise a million or more dollars for charity COULD mean something. Something to a lot of people. And yet, somehow, some people still would rather not see a freaking basketball game played.
Tell me @Crimsonorblue22 what would you call it if not selfish?
Anyone who doesn’t like it or anyone who would “threaten” to donate money to a charity just so this game doesn’t get played has their priorities backwards. You wouldn’t donate other than to see this game not being played? What is wrong with you? How selfish are you? If you’re that person, you should not only NOT watch the game but you SHOULD feel guilty and donate the money anyways. I for one, will be more than happy to see 7-8 future NBA players get on the same court and donate money to charity (for which I have already donated money previously for). This is awesome and anyone who doesn’t see it that way needs to step back and see what good could come from this.
I hope this starts a trend of charity preseason exhibition games that literally raises hundreds of millions of dollars each year. What a great way to raise money.
@JayHawkFanToo what a world we live in that people are against raising millions for charity from basketball games.
@JayHawkFanToo doubt they could raise the same kind of money just taking donations.
It looks like whoever told him to leave made the right decision... Although, had Embiid had his injury struggles and ended up here until last season. Holy shit.
@JayHawkFanToo Sure. I mean I'd love them to play the Memphis Grizzlies. But that isn't going to happen. It is very logistical to have two local teams who will sell out the Sprint Center be the ones who play. I mean, both teams can bus in and bus out same day so there should be little to no travel expenses. And as far as exhibition games go, this one will have a fantastic edge to it. And it is a much better tune up game to have on the schedule than freaking Pitt State.
In fact, this could be a very cool tradition that starts. Exhibition games being granted immunity from the NCAA rules that don't allow D1 teams to play an exhibition game against one another, as long as the proceeds of that game goes to charity. Instead of paying a D2 school to come get smashed, teams could get real tune-up games and raise millions for charity. A win-win situation.
@BShark You think he was just saving this for a rainy day?
Discussions of an Exhibition game for charity! I mean, we can all put aside everything for a game that doesn't count and for much needed proceeds to go to hurricane relief.
League is down. I don't know anyone who will go to the NBA outside of the 5 or 6 possible for KU and Bamba. So this preseason list is kind of sad.
@Crimsonorblue22 what do you mean? I've been on the website. And that story is the front page top line.
@Crimsonorblue22 Well it would be really funny if you inquired about UK, and got the same letter right? I just want someone to discredit their story, but not by just saying nothing. By shoving it in their face. These kids/future "journalists" need to know that clickbait articles are lazy bullsh*t. And they should be punished and ridiculed for it.