@wissox yeah! The central looks like it's up for grabs still. Its not going to be easy but they definitely can hit and play relatively error free baseball. I haven't watched that closely, a few games. The Nats have most of my handwringing attention. Im also impressed with the Os. We have played them 5 Times now and they're legit. Pitching is strong and the bats get it done.
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@benshawks08 morbid, but you're keeping it real. Ironically, once they're all infected, sending them home may make the death rate explode. Finishing my attic is starting to sound better and better. What house is complete without an isolated sick room?
What's your prediction for how long this lasts before you're fully remote? Sorry if you already said.
Enjoying the Memphis - Portland game on ESPN.
Well played, physical game. Love the balance on Memphis and poised youth. Enjoying Lillard and McCollum's east scoring and Nurkic Seems to be in midseason form. Good to see.
@Bwag interesting article. what would be the appropriate level of response in your eyes? No shut down?
"Students are not to blame. This is on us." ??? If they're at the bar they're presumably 21.
Why must it be zero-sum blame? There's enough to go around for all!
@FarmerJayhawk ugh. Be safe man.
Wow they've won 8 games and they're still in the cellar. When did AL Central become toughest division from top to bottom?
@benshawks08 Any Democrat in the debates with the exception of Bloomberg and Williamson would have been better than Kamala. Better candidates are getting to the national stage. Same thing happened to the Republicans. Trump, a horrible person, managed to beat out a more qualified, more humane field.
Unless you're specifically talking about candidates of color. To which I would say Yang was solid, and aging like a fine wine rn. And Obama obviously made it.
Something is wrong here that isn't solved by getting better local politicians elected.
Yeah. It's the choice between "meh" or "disaster and the destruction of our democracy".
MEH ALL DAY LONG, BABY!!!
@FarmerJayhawk when was this filmed?
@broadmind hello and welcome to KU Buckets! How's life on the other side?
This is an excellent question. This article provides some answers:
Basically, the vaccine developed by Oxford with AstraZennica is in phase 3 trials (being tested on 15k people) and the Cansino vaccine developed in China is about to start phase 3 (ie large group) testing.
We will have the results in October or November. Assuming success, from there I don't know the turnaround to widespread availability in various parts of the globe.
“I do get a sense sometimes now among certain young people, and this is accelerated by social media, there is this sense sometimes of: ‘The way of me making change is to be as judgmental as possible about other people, and that’s enough.”
“Like, if I tweet or hashtag about how you didn’t do something right or used the wrong verb,” he said, “then I can sit back and feel pretty good about myself, cause, ‘Man, you see how woke I was, I called you out.’”
-- Barack Obama
@DanR Tell me, is it irrational to try to explain why people with opposing views hold the convictions they do? I think there isn't enough of it. People are afraid to be empathetic because they don't want to be judged.
Can you take a shot at it if you have an explanation that's better than mine? I would love another take on this.
I'm not making up that the Democratic Party and their base has shifted to people of color. I heard that on CNN several times around the midterms. Maybe this is more CNN than the Democratic Party. :man_shrugging:
@DanR Try not to approach this as "how is the other side wrong?". Think about it as "the other side is coming from a place where clearly they think they're right, or they wouldn't be so stubborn. So why do they feel this way?"
@kjayhawks The Democratic party and liberal media has poorly managed the fact that a large number of white Americans have felt alienated by their politics during this pandemic.
Unfortunately, some of this alienation is systemic.
How do you convince a white person who is trying to make ends meet with a poor public education and reinforced biases that embracing "Black Lives Matter" is a nuanced position that we should take to help the country get past systemic racism when they aren't comfortable with their own position in life? How do you convince these people to even wear a mask when it's the right thing to do, when they feel their rights and wealth are constantly under threat?
Yes, it's notable how negligent the Democratic party has been in its messaging toward white America. And while it has come to a head during this pandemic, it's been brewing throughout Trump's presidency. The party and liberal media has clearly focused on people of color as their base, guilty of doubling down on that base the same way that the Republicans and Fox News have doubled down on appealing to every fear their base harbors: xenophobia, mysogeny, racism (and unconscious biases) in an attempt to drive votes to the polls.
In the case of the Democratic party, there was a time at the midterms where their message of choice was about healthcare, which is pretty universal. To the 7 million more uninsured Americans since Trump took office, that's a real blue collar issue that is colorblind. How far ago that midterm seems now.
The appeal to the Republican bases' worst fears by Republican politicians and Fox News is awful. But for the Democrats and liberal media to answer that fear by a diametrically opposed force is only perpetuating a culture of entrenched ignorance on both sides. There must be dialog, there must be an acknowledgement of nuances, and an empathy that extends to all Americans and unites us.
Obama tried to do this with his messaging. The irony being that as the country grew less tolerant, more politically polarized and indoctrinated, and while the wealth gap was growing in this country and our public education was losing ground, we had a message of unity coming from a charismatic black president, seemingly indicating all was well in this country. Clearly, and unfortunately, he was not a accurate representation of the country that was changing beneath his feet.
Say it with me:
Dialog Now!
We don't need to beat each other, we need to hear each other!
@FarmerJayhawk said in The "crap on Biden" thread.:
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Here's a good summary of Kamala's problems as written in an opinion piece in the NY Times by the former director of the Loyola Law School Project for the Innocent in Los Angeles:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/opinion/kamala-harris-criminal-justice.html ↗
For the record, I'm calling the slander dumb, not you @kjayhawks
Heres a read from the other side, if you can stomach it. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/08/13/kamala-harris-embodies-america-trump-tried-destroy-heres-why-hes-failed/%3foutputType=amp ↗
@kjayhawks the reason people are rolling their eyes at you is because this avenue attempting to alienate people from a candidate based on their heritage is textbook republican birtherism BS. It's tired and dumb and we should stick to the characters and the issues.
Which is hard to do when your candidate is a fat, stupid monster who has led the country straight into the gutter. I get it. Let's focus on BS instead.
Well if we're piling on, @kjayhawks how do you think black people ended up in Jamaica? They were just there since the beginning of mankind?
Why can't we just focus on the person and their character? And their policies or lack thereof?
I'm glad Trump is saying stupid stuff about Harris today so I can return my focus to how much of a POS he is.
@kjayhawks said in The "crap on Biden" thread.:
@Crimsonorblue22 Palin is/was bat crap crazy to put it nicely. Name any politician you want, I bet I can find multiple cases in which they have lied. Even the great Obama lied numerous times
I don't know if this was a passive apology for Trump being a liar, but I'll bang the drum again! Orders of magnitude.. There's a world of difference between a few lies vs being chronically incapable of telling the truth because you don't believe things exist outside of your own narrative.
McCain lost by 10 million votes. Sure, he regrets Palin, but no VP pick could have swung that election. He did open up Pandora's box for future elections though.
@RockChalkinTexas enjoyed reliving this post of yours. All the optimism and potential. Looking forward to our boys' next brush with greatness.
@DanR I hope you're right. The #1 thing I want is someone that is in it to serve the people (all the people). There will be a great opportunity for the Democrats to make change if both houses and the Presidency are controlled. I want someone with a vision to do the right things with that opportunity, not take us on a crusade down the wrong paths. What's her vision? As far I can tell she stands for nothing. I get the same kind of "shoot from the hip, doing it my way" vibe from Kamala that I get from Trump. I do think she's smarter, I do think she has more of a soul. But she has a large ego, and I think she wants to make her mark more than that she wants to serve the people.
@Crimsonorblue22 Kavanaugh has proven to be less of a douche than he was 30 years ago. Barr has gone in the opposite direction.
All those pre Covid Dem debates seem so long ago now
@Crimsonorblue22 well I hope I've misjudged her. I see her an opportunist and not the hero we need.
I guess Susan Rice didn't make it through vetting? This just feels like a cop out. I don't trust her. She's got a Hillary-like likeability issue.
I'm so angry at this pick. So stupid.
So about voting 3rd party....
Kamala Harris. What a joke.
@FarmerJayhawk said in The "crap on Trump" thread:
“Vote the bums out” is how we got Trump. WE COULDVE HAD JEB!.
I'm going to start paying a lot more attention to Republican primaries.
You're talking as if Trump is BAU; he's not.
@Texas-Hawk-10 I don't think it's a myth, I think it's circumstantial. I'm not saying that in every presidential election voting for a 3rd party candidate is throwing your vote away. I'm saying that in this one, Trump must lose. I appreciate that seeing a viable 3rd party candidate in the debates would be good. I just don't think we can survive 4 more years of Trump and wouldn't do anything to jeopardize his defenestration.
Getting a third party candidate on the stage isn't the same thing as voting 3rd party.
@kjayhawks is living through a mishandled pandemic with your country on lockdown not affecting you personally? I have to think that you don't think Trump is affecting you personally because you're not giving him enough credit.
@wissox hey, could you try to flush your dns cache? I had to mess with the DNS to fix the site for iPads at one point and Im wondering if your Mac might be holding onto old DNS records that no longer work.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/macpaw.com/amp/how-to/clear-dns-cache-on-mac ↗
There are 2 members of the house and zero members of the senate that are not Republican or Democrat. If you want to make change I think you start there not throwing your vote away for a 3rd party presidential candidate, a la Kanye West supporters.
@kjayhawks I think you are underselling the amount of damage Trump can do over replacement with 4 more years. Irreparable.
Lol I gotta pause here guys @mayjay @benshawks08 (I like where we ended up on your last post) . A good stopping point for tonight for me. I really appreciate the thoughtful conversation. Needed it. I've been deep in a shell for like a month and this is the first I've really felt like talking. Thank you.
@mayjay no man. Haven't you learned anything from Star Wars (lol): Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
As I said before, I have no problem at all calling out things that should change (orientalist caracatures, ex), things that people do without intent (unconscious bias) and things that people do of a racial nature with deliberation (racism).
I don't think we should abandon the attempt to draw proper distinction ever, even if our president is a raging piece of shit racist who does most of what he does mafia style to obfuscate his intent behind a layer of plausible deniability. I think he should be called out for every deplorable thing that he is, not in the least of which is a racist. There's enough evidence that this is undeniable. To that end, I appreciate the article about the rise of racial talking points in the media pre Trump @FarmerJayhawk and need to read that so I can appreciate a little more fully the powder keg he ignited. My point is, these are rare times. But we shouldn't abandon our attempt to define standards to accommodate them.
I do hear you @mayjay that you may know it when you see it, but that's a slippery and very subjective slope.
@benshawks08 said in Juneteenth:
@approxinfinity said in Juneteenth:
@benshawks08 said in Juneteenth:
@approxinfinity And to me part of not being a shit is recognizing that systematically excluding a group from society on the basis of their appearance is racist and bad.
Are you suggesting that by not interpreting the book as being specifically antiracist, I am in fact a racist? That seems to jive with the "with us or against us" vibe around this whole discussion.
Anywhere where I called you a racist? Said it was one way OR another? My entire point has been yes AND. I continually point out that I prefer not to call any person A Racist and focus instead on using the term as an adjective as I feel it’s more productive that way. And even in this discussion have I labeled any of your actions as racist?
No, it was honestly a question, albeit a loaded one, to discern what you meant by:
@approxinfinity And to me part of not being a shit is recognizing that systematically excluding a group from society on the basis of their appearance is racist and bad.
My point was the book was about not being a shit, so I read this as you saying that one should either see this book is about racism, or they are a shit. Sure ok maybe you just called me a shit and not a racist? Lol. Point taken.
@benshawks08 said in Juneteenth:
@approxinfinity Ah yes. All those times people weren’t allowed to eat, visit beaches, play sports and generally associate with the rest of society because of their glasses
Actually, there were times I was on the receiving end of prejudice because I wore some thick glasses and crappy clothes as a kid. I definitely was excluded from activities, wasn't welcome to eat with certain people at school, and got bullied at time because of my appearance. So yeah, the book resonated with me there.
Am I not allowed to relate to the book on my terms? Does the book have to be about another group because that's my responsibility? Seriously?
@mayjay ok well i wasnt attempting to argue that American racism towards blacks is worse than the Holocaust. In my mind a genocide is a whole different monster than racism. It would be a whole different discussion to debate that. That just wasn't my intent.
I don't think the message of the Sneetches was to not exterminate another race. Sneetches was written in 1961 so I consider any inspiration to address antisemitism on Seuss's part to be as it existed at that time.
@mayjay yeah. The Holocaust was bad. I didn't dispute that. What I said was that racism toward black people in this country has been much worse that what Jews have experienced in this country. More systemic,more implicit bias, longer, etc. I think that's a pretty safe statement all things considered.
Also, yes i tried to make distinctions about the label of racism being bandied about so freely then when discussing HEM, as I do now, and I am no less convicted now as I was then, that people must be careful in their language and considerations regarding anti-racism if they actually want to make lasting positive change.
If we just want to argue endlessly, then by all means, lets continue to try to eradicate distinctions.
@benshawks08 not being invited to a Frankfurter party is not the same thing as not being allowed to eat.
@benshawks08 said in Juneteenth:
@approxinfinity And to me part of not being a shit is recognizing that systematically excluding a group from society on the basis of their appearance is racist and bad.
Can you be racist against glasses wearers? How about racist against people in sports cars? Racist against people that wear leather? Racist against everyone who sings in public? Racist against everyone who hikes? Racist against people that shop at Kroger?
Are you suggesting that by not interpreting the book as being specifically antiracist, I am in fact a racist? That seems to jive with the "with us or against us" vibe around this whole discussion.
@benshawks08 Did Seuss write a book about race or a parable about not being divisive? Just because he was inspired by it doesn't mean that it's what the book was intended to convey. I think the book was generally about not being a shit. Not interpreting it the way you do does not make me irresponsible. That's not how literature works.