Love these posts. All very compelling. I'm charged up for the NBA season right now! This has got to be one of the most anticipated seasons ever. Many story lines now that the tanking for Wiggins season is finally in the rear view.
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@Wishawk well played! I would have never thought of that. But wouldn't that mean with 4 minutes left everyone would turn into Marcus smart? Maybe both systems are broken. What we need is impartial robot officials that never make the wrong call. Then we can apply the carding system to basketball.
@KansasComet said:> @drgnslayr I think it would be great if Jamari is given the opportunity to have a breakout year. I am hoping for the same with Landon Lucas. It's his 3rd year in the system. Lots of players have had great years in the their 3rd year in Coach Self's System. We shall see. Thanks for starting a great thread!!
Thanks for the reminder about Lucas. With Mickelson and Lucas on the deep end of the bench I'd consider our front court experience to be really deep. It makes me wonder... Down by double digits at about 5 min left do we start to foul and use our time outs and lean on our depth to extend the game or do we try to play our way out of it with our 7 man rotation, wait for the TV timeout and then play through, maybe using 1 timeout late if we are close enough? I would really like to see the former this year.
The more I read, hear and think about the Cavs roster next year, the more confident I get that they're going to suck on defense.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2014/08/06/with-kevin-love-the-cavaliers-will-struggle-on-defense/ β β
Do you think oft-injured Andy Varejao, Kevin Love, Brendan Haywood and Tristan Thompson are going to be able to provide any consistent rim protection? Are mid-30s 3-ballers Ray Allen, James Jones and Mike Miller going to play D through the season? Deep into the playoffs? Are Kyrie Irving, Dion Waiters and LeBron going to improve their D from last year simply by exerting themselves more? Are they still going to be as effective on O if they do?
I'm just not seeing a team that can play D. The deficiencies of this team seem pretty reminiscent of the deficiencies in Miami. We'll see.
@DoubleDD You guys had a lot to say about LeBron not being likeable. I was willing to like him until he forced Wiggins out the door without talking to him or referencing him at all to the media. That pretty much did it for me. I guess I'm relieved and feel more like myself. I can still root for LeBron to fail.
However, I was curious how his likeability will fair outside of the Jayhawk faithful. You made mention of his legacy earlier, and while I'd like to believe you that his legacy will not age well, or that it will be dwarfed by the legacy of the Spurs, because I feel much the same way you do, I don't know where we could find quantifiable analysis of public perception on him. I know the media wants to love him now, so forget any "LeBron is the most popular male athlete!" polls cited by ESPN, but I don't know if we'll ever really know. Thoughts?
Now how to see twolves games without paying for NBA package hmm.
@DoubleDD Here's what the Heat gave away for LeBron in a sign and trade:
CLEVELAND GETS:
Two first-round picks, that must be used starting in 2013 and ending by 2017
2012 second-round pick Miami received from New Orleans
Future second-round pick Heat acquired from Oklahoma City
Cleveland can also swap first round picks with the Heat in 2012
A large trade exception($15 million or so) that the Cavs must use in trades for one calendar year.
Here's what they gave away in sign and trade for Bosh:
TORONTO GETS:
The Raptors reacquired their own 2011 first-round pick originally sent to the Heat on February 13, 2009 (trade of Jermaine OβNeal and Jamario Moon for Shawn Marion and Marcus Banks) and Miamiβs 2011 first-round draft choice (lottery protected).
Although this neither completely validates nor invalidates the argument that a team should build (and/or sign in free agency) in general, lets see who those picks were used on as well as the top players still on the board that the Heat might have gotten with their picks.
Let's include the 2010 draft trade that Miami made to clear room for LeBron....
2010 Miami trades Eric Bledsoe (18th pick) to OKC for the 32nd pick. Lance Stephenson was also still available at the 40th spot.
2011 Miami trades the 28th pick to Toronto for Bosh. They end up getting this player back (Norris Cole) but Jimmy Butler, Chandler Parsons, and Isiah Thomas were still on the board.
2012 Miami trades away 27th Arnett Moultree for future 1st rd pick. Several decent players were still on board, but no stars.
2013 Miami gives up 30th pick for LeBron, Cleveland trades pick that ends up being Nemanja NedoviΔ to Golden State. Ray McCallum and Glen Rice still on board, but no certain NBA talent.
The Heat still owe Cleveland a first-round pick from their 2010 addition of James, with that pick due to Cleveland in 2015 as long as it is not among the first 10 in the draft.
So all in all, was it worth it? I'd say in this case, it was. But... the irony might be that had the Heat had more young talent (specifically Bledsoe and maybe the 2015 pick) maybe the cupboard would not have looked so bare to LeBron and he would have resigned this offseason instead of going to greener pastures.
If this supports a general philosphy, it is that it's better for a team to sign in free agency than sign a star in a trade. And that's what I really don't understand here... Is it just etiquette / avoiding infamy and hatemail / wanting to win NOW that keeps Love from waiting and coming over after next season, almost guaranteeing a dynasty in Cleveland and a strong supporting cast?
LeBron walked without any strings. If it's all business, isn't that the most prudent way? Should you feel obligated to the team you're departing to go in a trade?
I added a News Feeds category and I pulled feeds from cjonline, kusports and wichita eagle, but only the cjonline one worked correctly. I'm reaching out to Gary Bedore about the kusports feed as I believe it should work with a small change on their end, and I'll see what I can do about wichita eagle one. This should be a really nice way of pulling our news from other sites in real time without having to manually do it.
@nuleafjhawk :eyes: -> :telephone: -> :santa:
@approxinfinity said:> @HighEliteMajor I've been impressed with uconn and Kentucky. I expect good seasons from them.
Ha! Now that the site is indexed correctly with Google, i was finally able to find my December gut feelings on UConn/Kentucky by searching the site from google :)
If only I had heeded it when picking a bracket.
[A little] sorry for the self promotion! Here's how I searched the site with google. β
@Crimsonorblue22 said:> @approxinfinity what's the difference between favorite and up voted?
I think the difference is that you can see favorites in a person's profile., so it is for reference purposes, whereas thumb up is to give someone rep for their post.
Check this out.. These results never would have shown up in google results before. Now we're on front page thanks to the sitemap being fixed and google crawling the new pages. As traffic improves to the site, it should snowball and result in a lot more organic traffic through search. I'm already seeing an uptick in users coming in through google. There's a long way to go but it's working!
https://www.google.com/search?q=highelitemajor+championships β β
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=conference+championships+are+meaningless β β
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=KU+has+been+unlucky β β
They're reporting that the stancheon was 2 feet closer than an NBA stancheon.
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@nuleafjhawk said:> @approxinfinity I wanted to "down arrow" this just out of orneriness (is that a word?), but I don't want to be the black sheep of the site. Lol.
Besides, I really don't want Santa mad at me......
@nuleafjhawk I hid them for you so there won't be any temptation. :)
Paul George just broke his leg horribly against the base of the stancheon. It was awful. About the same as Kevin Ware's injury. So sad. Hope he can make a full recovery.
Hey now that the front page is a lot prettier, it seems like we could get more use out of it if we break up basketball stories into smaller topics. What do you guys think? Are there any logical smaller buckets that you can think of? Maybe news and featured content wasn't the logical division line... Instead topics? Maybe a coach self specific bucket? A recruiting bucket? A Stat lovers corner? I'd love to hear everyone's ideas. I think the layout and the embedded pictures give an opportunity to make the front page feel like a newspaper so it'd be great if we could find a layout that hits the sweet spot for varied interests.
@KansasComet said:> @drgnslayr Excellent post.
@drgnslayr
Agreed! We've been over this topic many times but the argument that the 10 conference titles is more talked about than the 2008 NC is interesting.
@nuleafjhawk @bskeet @JayhawkRock78
One comment I will make is that I personally am not a huge fan of the "down" arrow feature. If someone doesn't like something they will usually let us know about it - the "down" arrow just kind rubs me the wrong way. I'm sure it's a personal hangup of mine, but now ya know!
I thought similar things when I saw that feature added. I did submit an issue with nodebb about it, you can track it here:
https://github.com/NodeBB/NodeBB/issues/1934 β β
In the meantime, don't hit the downarrow! Santa knows when you downarrow. :santa:
thanks dylans!
sorry for the short outage 2 seconds ago. i was messing with something.
@justanotherfan I was thinking about Embiid being like Garnett this morning on the ride in and was wondering why no one had thrown out that comparison yet. I wonder if people's minds went there when it became apparent that Wiggins was going to Minnesota and contemplating superimposing their situations. I know mine did.
@DoubleDD said:> @Crimsonorblue22
Weimaraner They are a German dog. She cost me a bundle, but is worth every dime. The best hunting/family dog I've ever had.
My kids used to love this song. I never knew what a Weimaraner looked like though I heard this lyric a bunch of times...
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I'll be glad if the package is still Bennett and a first rounder with Wiggins to Minnesota. I think Bennett can return high first round value (from his weak draft) in a few years. He looked slim and athetlic in summer league play.
Minnesota's roster isn't horrible with those guys. They won't get out of the West, but they'll be able to compete. If few things go right (Zach Lavine turns out to be ok / Pekovic and Rubio stay healthy. Dieng / Glenn Robinson / Muhammed continue to improve. They need another rotation big. It's not a horrible situation. Unfortunately, we'll never see them on TNT. That's the worst part. Sounds like a good place for Wiggins to find his inner alpha dog. Would you prefer he was on Philly?
As for the East, I'll be rooting for the Wizards, but I'm believing in the Bulls (and rooting for them against anyone other than the Wizards). The Bulls can be very very good. If Derrick Rose and Pau Gasol can stay healthy for the playoffs, I'd consider them to be the team to beat in the East this year, and it wouldn't be close.
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@Crimsonorblue22 Not sure on this one, your guess is as good as mine. I'm sure there's some method to it, but it's not apparent at first glance to me either.
Thanks guys. Giving me chills with all the positive feedback. The loop is complete! I CANNOT WAIT for the season!
@bskeet HA! Awesome! It worked!
@Crimsonorblue22 Not entirely sure. We'll need to find out. But I do know that you can now downvote people's posts :) Also, I just noticed that in your account settings you can check a box that makes external links open in new tab. Hallelujah!
Just noticed that when @bskeet favorited my post, it told me he did, so I guess its not anonymous and sends a notification whereas upvoting is anonymous and does not notify. Or maybe that's not it, I'm not sure.
@drgnslayr Ha ok, I had enabled a plugin for embedding twitter hashtags.... I've now turned it off. The author of the plugin might have thought that nobody uses single quotes except for tweeting :)
@Crimsonorblue22 The box on the right represents how the markdown syntax you type will be rendered, so you don't have to guess before posting. It's true that the board has gone more implicit - tags are often not labeled any more, but usually mouse overs will show hint text.
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Not sure about sketchfab links....
@bskeet Ah, good call. I hadn't enabled the youtube plugin yet. Good to go now.
@jaybate-1.0 do you want me to see if I can fix your name and oust the imposter?
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That's bizarre! Thanks letting me know. I'll test against a clean board tonight and see if this behaviour is b/c of migrated data or present on the new platform regardless.
@bskeet it's not just that thread. There was some stuff earlier on that got corrupted.
Thanks for everyone weighing in.
You guys are wonderful. I think I will take another stab at migrating and reach out to the nodebb guys if I can. I saw your post @jayhawkfantoo I will let you know what the errors I see are. Do you have an email I can reach you with?
We're currently stuck on an old version of nodebb β. The migration to the new version won't work because some of our data is corrupt, and I'm not certain how to fix it. So far, this hasn't caused us problems, it just prevents upgrade, but I want to pose this question to you.
How do you guys feel about a clean wipe and install of the newest version of nodebb? This would mean no access to old posts and you'd have to set up your account again.
Aside from the new features on the newest version of the board, which there appear to be many, I hope this fixes search (which now is basically useless, so kind of makes having the old data a moot point if we can't access it) and fix our sitemap.xml, which search engine crawlers use to index the site, and hopefully will cause the site to show up in more google searches and get organic traffic to the site (new people). .
If you're really opposed to this, we can stay the course with this version of nodebb, but upgrade by fixing the data is looking like it isn't a viable option for us. I'm ok with staying on the old version if this is what you guys want. Let me know.
If problems persist on other threads and you can't respond here, please email me at approxinfinity@gmail.com so I can know. If there isn't a resolution, I'm considering that it might be the right time to get the new version of nodebb, and install a fresh up to date copy of the board.
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Something is definitely funky. Power cycle didn't fix it on that thread. I think it may be specific to that thread though.
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@Wishawk whats up with this thread? hm
@JayHawkFanToo Hey hey! I think I fixed it (good ol' power cycle).
This guy makes it sound like UT is a done deal. β
@nuleafjhawk It is comfy, but I 100% agree with @jaybate in principle. We should upgrade.
@jaybate I appreciate the need for advancing the platform, but I think a lot of people would be turned off if I punted on all our data. That would mean everyone would lose their names and rep and posts. I don't think its necessary right now. We're in the dog days of summer. I think it's normal for a basketball msg board to be a little dead. We have some time to stew on it.
@drgnslayr ha! Apparently after I posted that they did follow up with him and he says he is keeping it: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10747433/kentucky-wildcats-fan-keeping-championship-tattoo-loss-connecticut-huskies β
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Almost didn't need to get it altered, Tyler β! Eh f it. Close enough to keep it! :)
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As a basketball fan, I am enjoying this special run KY has put together, simply because I didnt think they had it in them!
@ralster As I watched them get beaten repeatedly throughout the season by more veteran teams, crumbling down the stretch in many cases, I came to appreciate that these kids were getting their comeuppance. Before the season, when Dakari Johnson said he thought he could beat Michael Jordan in his prime, or the twins disrespected Wiggins by talking smack about how they didn't need him, or Calipari talked about chasing history (and I'm sure the kids parroted his words to other potential recruits), I just wanted them to get humbled, over and over again. They were stupid kids. I don't think they're quite as stupid any more, and that's good. They've had to work hard, play as a team, and earn it.
I don't have to root for them, but I respect that they've gritted it out.
Go Badgers!