Niko Roberts and Justin Wesley will both be graduating. Seems like they've both been here forever. Maybe Embiid knows another volleyball playing footer Cameroonian that has never played basketball before and would like to walk on for us.
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@jaybate 1.0 enjoyed your input about the bench's development affording the starters more freedom to disrupt as well as your thoughts on the rotation selection process.
@bskeet thanks with the help posting the dailies as always. I've been sick and still kind of out of it. Guys, please keep tacking on any stories you see to the daily headlines posts if they aren't already linked to.
“Show me a guy who’s afraid to look bad, and I’ll show you a guy you can beat every time.”
@globaljaybird thanks man.
@kansascomet David Padgett, Micah Downs, and Jr Giddens were all quality players at good ball schools. I'd say most of the others did pretty well.
Not sure if this was mentioned in any of these articles. Michael Cobbins out for season ↗
@parishawk Def seems an over simplification by Self.
It's amazing to me that Embiid is so gifted at both ends of the court. Volleyball.
Maybe to Embiid there is very little distinction between O and D. It's all yin and yang in a volleyball point. Honestly by the time he has run to the other end of the court he has had more time to think than if he were playing volleyball. There might never have been the need for the game to "slow down" for him. That doesn't explain guards that are sneaky though.
@drgnslayr I'm with you. I always loved playing defense and shutting someone else down. Never was a great finisher on offense but loved setting picks rebounding and passing. I think you bring up an interesting point about how Self doesn't recruit D. But maybe he does with a few guys. Releford Withey Mario and maybe Greene? Maybe he sees the psychology there.
I should have included Embiid in that list. Pretty surehe wasn't wagging his finger early in the season simply because Mutombo did.
K @drgnslayr how about a distinction between seeking harmony and order vs seeking discord and disruption. Does it take a person who relishes being disruptive to really excel on the defensive end? Do some people lack that motivation.. And if so why?
Enjoying this discussion. Is Selden too honest to be sneaky? Too straight up? Is innovating on offense. honest, but innovating and anticipating on D dishonest and mean? Is defense somehow dirty because it is the counterforce to offense which is the first force that exists in any basketball dimension just as any conflicting force can be construed as the evil force because before it's appearance, when offense had a monopoly on the court, there was no conflict? Do these thoughts trouble the subconscious of a McDonald's all American who has focused on playingO while the conscience of a less heralded junkyard dog who ranked in the 20s coming out of high school might not be troubled by playing sneaky disruptive D?
@melrank awesome post. against VCU what jumped out at me was the poor shooting by Reed (1 for 9). More importantly the 2 for 21 as a team from 3. I'm sure we have one of the top 5 coaches in the country but I wonder how our 3 pt ‰ when behind under Self compares to the 3 pt % of other coaches when behind. Particularly K, Izzo, Pitino. Self has been able to find the best bigs to ride in game because there is less randomness shooting twos than threes . Or maybe it isn't randomness on the perimeter. Maybe it's zen.
@VailHawk really interesting thought -- hadn't occurred to me, but I'd be game for whatever people want to do. I'd think we'd want to find a way of doing it that doesn't require a big overhead investment while still being able to keep the merch cost reasonable. Also, we'd have to figure out what kind of designs we'd want to run. Anyone have any recommendations on vendors that could give us a good deal on a small run?
:) well the chatroom is always there but as far as I know no one uses it except during games some may. I haven't been chatting recently anywhere because I prefer focusing on the games and Jesse Newell hosts well on cj online. But if you do want to use our chatroom you would replace the nickname text with your preferred nick and leave the #kubuckets in the channel textbox k and then hit start. Sometimes that doesn't appear to load it up. If it hangs here refresh the page and the second time it should work.
@HighEliteMajor a great note to end the year on. Thanks for the dead on inspiring prose. It gave me the warm fuzzies.
@jaybate 1.0 Tyshawn's senior season his A/TO ratio was 1.35, down from 1.69 his junior year. Naadir isn't Tyshawn (he's totally different), but if the team is better with him in the game, whatever he brings to the table, I think he'll still get his PT. PG seems to be harder for a OAD to win a position battle with an upperclassman than any other position. It's just as possible Mason rounds out his game / understands his role in the system and pushes him to the pine next year.
@HighEliteMajor those numbers put things in perspective. Coming into the season I thought our on ball D had the potential to be lethal. I've been yearning to a return of leash free RussRob pressure and Mario passing-lane-jumping since 2008. Got excited seeing the full court pressure rolled out but it hasn't developed over the course of the season.
Also, moderate gains. Enjoyed the solid contributions of Tharpe, Ellis, Wiggins, Selden, and Black on offense.
There were defensive lapses, yeah, but Toledo made some pretty high-degree-of-difficulty shots in the lane, and they were extremely confident letting it fly from three. They weren't slouches. Lots of room for improvment on D, but I'll take the overall effort. I'm glad our shots fell.
Dodd: Naadir Tharpe leads Jayhawks over Toledo 93-83 ↗
LAWRENCE — Back in October, in the weeks before the season began, Kansas coach Bill Self kept telling anyone who would listen that junior guard Naadir Tharpe had to be the Jayhawks’ most valuable player.
No, he wouldn’t be KU’s most talented player. On most nights, that would always be freshman wing Andrew Wiggins. And maybe he wouldn’t be the most dominant (freshman center Joel Embiid) or consistent (sophomore forward Perry Ellis). But Tharpe had to be something else: Steady, mature, a rock for KU’s young players to lean on.
Newell: Self frustrated with team's defense following 93-83 win over Toledo ↗
**KU gives up most to a non-conference foe at home since 2009; Three players score 20 or more **
This doesn’t happen to Kansas. Not at home, and not against nonconference opponents.
Yes, the Jayhawks survived with a 93-83 victory over Toledo on Monday night thanks to efficient offense and overwhelming inside play.
But Bill Self left perturbed knowing his team gave up way more points than he is accustomed to seeing.
KU Sports: Perry Ellis’ big night leads KU soaring past Toledo, 93-83 ↗
Perry Ellis’ name was on the tips of the tongues of 16,300 fans in Allen Fieldhouse on Monday night, who watched in amazement as he scored 21 points (three off a career high) and grabbed a career-best 11 rebounds in the (9-3) Jayhawks’ 93-83 victory over previously undefeated (12-1) Toledo.
Box Score ↗
CJ Online Live Blog ↗
KU Sports Live Blog ↗
Related postgame thread here on KU's defense: ATTENTION: KU just held Toledo 3 points below their average
@HighEliteMajor I've been impressed with uconn and Kentucky. I expect good seasons from them.
@VailHawk Glad it helps! If anything else makes sense to add, lets get it added so this doc can be complete.
@Jayhawkfantoo IE 11.. I didn't even know they came out with 11! That may well be the culprit. Let me know how it goes.
@JayHawkFanToo Is it possible you are filtering by unread or somehow your view isn't refreshed after postigbg? I am seeing your posts. Try hitting recent on the menu bar after posting. Should see it.
Sure man. Of course. The regulars at the sports bars, some people without cable, residents at old folks homes that don't have the remote, people at hospitals that don't have the remote, people on airplanes that don't have the remote, lots of people that don't have the remote.
Added link to your thread here as well in top post @jayhawkfantoo.
@globaljaybird We've all seen this I'm sure, but it still belongs somewhere on our site.
!Coach K's true form ↗
@AsadZ Or if Self leaves after his senior year, Tyler can graduate and probably get some quality PT playing somewhere else.
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Newell: KU freshman Mason 'not satisfied' with outside shot ↗
LAWRENCE — Frank Mason believes his poor 3-point accuracy isn’t a true reflection of the type of shooter he is.
“I’m not satisfied at all,” the KU freshman point guard said Saturday. “I know I’m capable of shooting way better than what I’m doing, but I know it’s going to take a little time.”
Bedore: Frank Mason focused on stepping up as leader ↗
The best present Kansas University freshman point guard Frank Mason received for Christmas was the gift of time spent with loved ones back in Petersburg, Va.
“It was good to go home. I got to see my son, my family, close friends. It was really nice going home,” Mason said after Saturday’s practice and before the Jayhawks’ holiday basketball clinic in Allen Fieldhouse.
KU Athletics: KU basketball closes out against Toledo ↗
Kansas (8-3) closes out the 2013 calendar year when it plays host to Toledo (12-0), Monday, Dec. 30, at 7 p.m. on Jayhawk IMG Television/ESPN3. KU is coming off an 86-64 win against Georgetown on Dec. 21. Toledo is 12-0 on the season after its 85-66 win versus Coppin State on Dec. 28. At 12-0, the Rockets were one of seven teams undefeated in NCAA Division I through Dec. 27.
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@tubertigertank I wrote up a post that summarizes how the board works for you -- you can find it here : /topic/387
You might need to switch your filter from daily to weekly? I saw a thread about it regarding Embiid. I agree there is no way Embiid comes back barring something seriously going wrong.
@globaljaybird that could have been anyone on here, you'll have to be more specific.
That quote would be specifically good for the motd if Duke were to win it all ever again for sure.
@globaljaybird shouldn't be necessary. Thanks a lot for the feedback, and glad we're back to normal for you and hopefully for anyone else affected. I'll lay low for a while on updates assuming we're stable and see if I can reproduce some problems on my test site, and see what else gets updated on the nodebb repo.
@keefu test
Thanks for the revert approx.-that tiny phone is the schizz to post on. The white reply box would display & could type a message, but was no way to submit or discard the reply. F5/ctrl did not make any diff. Surely HEM & I are not the only ones affected?
I'm not sure. I didn't have any probs on desktop, but I didn't try on my phone. Thought you guys were seeing the problem on desktop in specific. If it was on the phone I could try to upgrade my test site on my own time and see if I can reproduce on the phone.
So now, if you go to a thread and hit reply is everything working right with the modal?
@globaljaybird try now? Ctrl+F5 and try please.
Alright guys, I'll revert. not sure. It's bizarre to me. Doing so now
Guys, unless its a version or browser I'm not using, it seems like it would be a caching issue. If Ctrl+f5 (clearing cache) doesnt do the trick, can you let me know browser and version number (its either under help or about [Browser name] menu options for most browsers). I'm prefer not to revert as the performance seems to be better so far with the new version and they appear to have made some other fixes people have mentioned (I also like the solid white modal window for replies, feel its a lot nicer on the eyes), but if I can test with the browsers and versions you guys are using and reproduce the problem I could revert if necessary. Thanks for your patience. Should be straight soon.
testing reply in firefox 21.0 - works.
testing reply in chrome 31.0.1650.63 m - works.
testing reply in IE 10.0.9200.16721 -- works.
@HighEliteMajor Ugh. Try to hit ctrl+F5 in your browser for me would you? This forces a cache fresh. And if that doesn't fix it replying thereafter, can you tell me what browser and version you're using? If that doesn't work I might have to revert, we can't have you not able to post.
- testing editing existing post in firefox 21.0 -- working.
- testing editing existing post in chrome 31.0.1650.63 m - working.
- testing editing existing post in IE 10.0.9200.16721
@jaybate 1.0 Yeah, he'll have his work cut out for him, but I think Beilein has already proven he's a great coach. He's been a winner every step of the way, and there have been many steps: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Beilein ↗ ↗
The way he steadily improved West Virginia and Michigan in his time at each school seemed pretty impressive to me. His historical weakness (just from observation) is that he always builds teams heavily reliant on the 3-ball, which they hit with remarkable consistency including his bigs, but this is a formula that we all know is hard to win the tournament with. Which is what made Mitch McGary so important to his team last year, being a true athletic versatile post scorer.
I still think his team will be successful, but my guess (unless they have some other low post guy who I'm not thinking about) is that this all but kills their dreams of a title for the year.
@RockChalkinTexas Hey, I'm not having a problem editing. Can you refresh the page / close browser & repoen/ are you on a phone?
done.
Going to restart server in a few, should be less than a minute outage, but if you experience some weirdness, its me.
KUSports -- Gary Bedore: KU's next foe, Toledo, still undefeated ↗
Players and coaches on nine college basketball teams gave their fans the best possible present on Christmas Day: an undefeated record to digest with the turkey and ham.
Teams that remain undefeated as the calendar approaches the New Year: Arizona (13-0), Ohio State (12-0), Wichita State (12-0), Wisconsin (12-0), Iowa State (11-0), Oregon (11-0), Syracuse (11-0), Villanova (11-0), and Toledo (11-0).
CJ Online -- Jesse Newell: How luck is helping KU basketball's defense ↗
The Kansas men's basketball defense is ranked 13th in Ken Pomeroy's adjusted defensive efficiency rankings. And a few days ago, for the life of me, I couldn't figure out why.
Sure, KU has played the toughest non-conference schedule of any BCS team so far (and the eighth-toughest in the nation according to KenPom), but the numbers still didn't add up. KU's national rankings in defensive turnover percentage (286th) and free throws allowed per 100 field goals (306th) are both by far the worst in Bill Self's 11 seasons at KU.
@globaljaybird Wait a sec, thats a Truman quote, the Wooden one... I see what you/Wooden did there.
@jaybate can I have the group-on for putting a hit out on the neighbor's cat? I seeded my backyard this year in one barren part of the lawn and now that is the nicest grass in the yard... and its where the neighbor's cat goes to poop (it must be every single time it poops) -- so much for the kids rolling around in that part of the lawn.
@brooksmd haha, nice brooks :) In all honesty, I'm in family vacation mode right now, so I'm just here to make merry with my fellow board rats until things get a little back to normal with my days, but I appreciate the input @jaybate. I worry that I'm missing something sometimes that's detracting from the experience of the board, I'd rather know everything people have going on and do what I can to grease the wheels.
Hmm I will try to figure out why they don't match