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No Silvio • Oct 29, 2020 07:36 AM

@BeddieKU23

Dave was hard to recognize in that scrimmage tape because he has improved his body so much. He's dropped a ton of baby fat weight. It almost has to help him get out there and guard the trey.

Self mentioned that Dave will be a big time threat in the low and mid post area. That will be one more factor where teams have to sink in if he starts dominating.

Otherwise... we've got height and speed on the perimeter, and guys who can drive the rack.

That all points to so many options where we can free up some wide open treys. If that be the case, even if we have questionable shooters, we should still hit a decent percent. I think Christian is going to dazzle on the trey.

Self flips to x-axis ball in AFH! • Oct 27, 2020 10:58 PM

@Kcmatt7

I like the idea of Self paying closer attention to tempo this year. I like the way you think... use up all those legs we have on the floor and bench. So few (if any) competitors can run that much quality for 40 minutes of basketball.

But I think that goes against the grain of Self's nature. Defense is where Self is at (though he has really been drawing up some good offense with some recent teams). And if we became so fast paced that even Roy's teams couldn't keep up we would sacrifice defense. In fact, we would have to learn a different style of defense to coordinate with the faster pace we would probably get our opponents playing.

I'd settle for something in the middle. I don't know why, but over the past years we have basically abandoned running fast breaks. When I grew up playing ball... we were taught that fast breaks were the reward for playing good defense. When we stole balls or ripped down good rebounds, we looked for fast outlet passing for runouts. And a runout doesn't mean we have someone ahead of the defenders... usually it means a 1 on 1, 2 on 2, or even 3 on 3. You have to coach your guys into open court basketball scoring. Attack the rim and score or get fouled or both.

"This team is set up to drive, draw fouls or kick out for an open 3, and play lockdown defense."

@Texas-Hawk-10 did an excellent job describing this team. I'm okay with it, but would like to see us learn to vary our tempo. Good teams learn that and don't lose. Find the tempo you like and force the other team to play your tempo.

I'd also like to see us use full and half court pressing. I'll never understand why we don't put time in on learning to press, especially since Self emphasizes defense. This is a tool that has incredible potential to keep opposing teams from ever getting into their style of offense. It's a great way to help control tempo and speed up the game.

I don't want to start the season harping about what I'd like to see Self do... he has changed in many areas and grown as a coach. The greats will do that and he is becoming a great in my book!

Self flips to x-axis ball in AFH! • Oct 27, 2020 08:14 AM

@BeddieKU23

We know Self always wants to go M2M... so he's a matchup-style coach. I can see us playing guys I qualify as 5 guards when Self likes the matchups. As @approxinfinity stated... I question if Self ever starts 5 guards (this year). I don't see how we avoid playing all guards sometimes.

Self flips to x-axis ball in AFH! • Oct 26, 2020 06:42 AM

I think we've reached that point in time where we truly call it "positionless basketball." Self talks about it. That impresses me because I believe he has a feel for the direction basketball is going. Sometimes I think it is easier for us old timers to assess where basketball has come from. When I was young the game was all about positions and you recruited to the expectation of the position no matter how bad you had to recruit. Spin forward to today, and most coaches try to find ways of getting minutes to their best players, even if it doesn't fit into the traditional positions. Self definitely knows this.

I'm thinking to myself right now... "what defines a guard?"

I think I'll look at it from two perspectives; guard-like attributes and big man attributes.

Guard-like attributes - obviously first, ball handling ability... ability to face pressure (including double-team), ability to go where ever you want to go, change direction, crossover, dribble drive. Seeing the game is important... being able to setup other players, run offense (point guard skills), proficiency at the pass, low turnovers, high assists. Shoot the ball, mid range to the long ball. Finish drives to the rim. Speed. Defend the drive.

Big man attributes - finish in the low post, back to the basket, rebound, defend bigs well, seal off, hold ground, block shots. Have size... height, girth. Play above the rim.

For any player to make it on a Jayhawk team he has to have some of these qualities. Most players will have some attributes from both of these groups. Usually, one side will be dominant. And one thing is for sure, a player has to have a certain level of ball handling to be considered a guard.

I see several players on our current roster I could tag with either position... so for the sake of creating hype, it works well for me to call it "an all guard lineup" or "4-guard lineup." Some of these lineups might lack girth, but many will have height regardless what we call it.

The NBA has had plenty of bigs that can be called guards, from early on with Magic Johnson, who always was considered a guard, to Kevin Durant, who might be considered a forward but usually plays like a guard.

Self flips to x-axis ball in AFH! • Oct 24, 2020 09:12 AM

Loved hearing that Self is looking at 5-guard lineups. Granted.. I know he has to consider maybe not having a big that will truly gel with this bunch, plus maybe foul trouble and minus Silvio out of the equation.

We have the potential to run 5 guards and still have height out there. Garrett has already proven that you don't have to be too big to guard the post.

I'll visualize this. Look at a graphic of a basketball court. Shade in area for each player where they are a threat on the floor. With 5 guards, hopefully they all have some potential from trey, they should completely darken the offensive end of the court. You don't get that with guys like Big Mac... or the now legendary Doke.

I've always looked at our offense where we take big guys out on the perimeter who can't shoot the long ball and set high ball screens. What a waste. I get the idea that we are trying to develop a mismatch, but how often do our guys burn the big defender off the dribble? Right... Meanwhile... their big plays off the screen and guards most of the paint, eliminating our chance of drives as their guard goes above the ball screen. This isn't the NBA. But with 5 guards... chances are our opponents still play their bigs. Pick and rolls, pick and pops, double screens, pick and dribble drive... attack attack attack. Remove all the slow guys and up the tempo. Run. Full court offense. Closer to some NBA offense, maybe a bit less size, but huge potential.

So get 5 race horses who can all be a threat from trey or driving and finishing. How can any D1 team guard that? Run all kinds of motion... unstoppable.

Self talking about the team • Oct 22, 2020 06:06 AM

This year won't be like past years. This COVID stuff is going to bring lots of problems. Outbreaks and cancellations... I don't expect this to be a great year for most players to show their wares for the next level. I have my doubts if this will be a year where Garrett will want to make the leap. But I imagine he would test the waters and then decide.

Wichita lololol • Oct 22, 2020 06:01 AM

Meanwhile.... I started some conversations in the "Land of Shocked Wheat" and haven't been surprised. The diehard fans still defend him and have become nasty in doing so. But I went deeper into administration and people are keeping cards close to their chest but the basic energy felt is one of him being guilty and change is on the way. I'm not necessarily thinking he gets fired. Hope to chat with some past players soon. I won't share names.

So if he is found guilty and terminated... I put this question out to all of you...

Is WSU better off today than the day they hired him? He did bring them success and a move to a better conference.

K.J. Adams • Oct 22, 2020 05:45 AM

@FarmerJayhawk

KJ isn't afraid to mix it up! Can't wait!

The NCAA Belongs on Probation... • Oct 22, 2020 05:34 AM

@BeddieKU23 said in The NCAA Belongs on Probation...:

Poof! I’m surprised the death penalty wasn’t on the table

Yep... UMASS... like KU... isn't protected under the "North Carolina umbrella", like UNC and Duke.

No Silvio • Oct 20, 2020 10:11 PM

@BeddieKU23

We've got length, just not super length (like Doke)... what we maybe could use is some girth. I'm not so sure that will be a big factor except with maybe a handful of teams all year.

I'm pretty happy if we can go guard the trey line!

Sometimes it is hard to see the glass half full. We can fret over not having girth and the possibility that will challenge us down low. What do you think the teams with girth will worry about when playing us? We'll have height and some quickness out on the perimeter. Many were bagging on David last year for not being able to guard the trey, remember?

Let's just hope we can nail a decent % from trey this year. This would be a great year to have proficiency with the long ball!

No Silvio • Oct 20, 2020 02:09 AM

I like Silvio and I defended him his entire time here. But I'm willing to bet we will be better off with his departure. Our best chances of going far exists when we limit distractions. Silvio, whether it was his fault or not, brought distraction. This also helps clear up our post play time as well as the concept of trying to run two bigs at a time. We've got plenty of height, perhaps could use another beef guy, but I'd rather have speed than beef to go with height.

We have a few unknowns with this team, but so far, I'm liking our potential.

No Silvio • Oct 19, 2020 04:03 PM

After last year with Silvio, I could sense he wasn't going to pan out.

No Silvio • Oct 19, 2020 04:00 PM

I still think we need to learn some lessons about recruiting some of these players. It seems like the more we have to go through to get them here the less we get out of them. Now we have to deal with long term damage.

Self talking about the team • Oct 09, 2020 04:51 PM

@Kcmatt7

Come on... play nice! :)

Self talking about the team • Oct 09, 2020 04:50 PM

@justanotherfan

I think the "x-factor" for Jalen is his reputation as a scrapper. Self always finds time for a scrapper. Potentially, he is a guy who can uplift the whole team if he brings that kind of attitude and energy into a game. He's not afraid to drive the ball, in fact, prefers to drive. If he scraps on defense... Self will play him.

Wichita lololol • Oct 09, 2020 04:33 PM

I'm a Jayhawk, and KU alumni. Obviously, KU is at the top of my list. But I do support all sports teams in Kansas. The stadium story is hard to read because it sucks to think that this behavior is still happening in college basketball.

I will put my own Jayhawk cred on the line here... by saying I totally believe Goodman. I had a period of time where I got to know him personally, and we discussed everything college basketball. He is a totally legit guy who I hold in high esteem. He also doesn't favor one Kansas school over another with his work. This story is legit. Whether or not the players are being truthful... I believe these players. I've watched plenty of WSU basketball and I've seen Marshall's behavior during games often go off the scale of what is appropriate. I've seen and heard him verbally assault players during a game that goes way beyond allowable decorum in college basketball.... or for that matter... any basketball anywhere.

We've all heard stuff like this about Marshall before. I've cut him all the slack I can because I don't like to judge people without feeling comfortable that I'm doing the right thing. This changes all of that. I don't want him in the State of Kansas any longer!

I know plenty of WSU alumni / contributors, former players, and former personnel from past Athletic Departments. I plan to totally dump on Marshall. This is not acceptable. Period.

I am totally disgusted.

Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU • Oct 06, 2020 05:58 AM

I don't think Self is predictable like he used to be... and that is a great thing! He has opened his mind and changed his philosophy to deal with the players he has, and for the most part, tries to give minutes to players that belong on the floor, regardless of where they fit in a traditional cubbyhole approach. By watching Self shift over to attempt to play to his strengths (on the team) he has really kept me closer to Kansas basketball. You can't nap on this coach like perhaps you used to be able to do.

Self talking about the team • Oct 05, 2020 07:26 PM

@approxinfinity

Jalen isn't recognizable from last year. He's changed that much. I'm not even talking about the hair. Though... a big hair change like that usually symbolizes other changes, too.

It will be impossible to keep that kid out of the lineup because of his aggression. We've got so many unproven players this year, and if Jalen brings the aggression he was famous for, along with his increased athleticism...

We need someone to spark the offense. With this much youth, and our experienced players aren't famous for offense... we need several of the young players stepping up and producing.

Self talking about the team • Oct 04, 2020 11:31 PM

@Texas-Hawk-10

Very intuitive post. I can see it going much the same way you do. It is easy to have concerns because of who we lost from last year. Doke leading the world in FG% is a tough loss, and I think we finally give full appreciation of what we had with Dotson. He did all the little things that don't get noticed. Still... we have lots of possibilities and it will be a question of who steps up. Opportunities for everyone on this team to prove themselves.

I do like the approach of lots of utility players with height. We will just have to see if they can mesh it into a cohesive unit. Self has already given us clues to expect perhaps more than we do now as we seem to still be mourning the loss of the tournament last year that we should have been a contender for.

Usually, I'm excited for Hawk hoops all through the summer... while I'm watering tomato plants. This year... didn't really have a thought towards much sports. I just now feel a bit of excitement again. It started after buying a pumpkin. Kind of a pavlovian response (I think).

Self talking about the team • Oct 03, 2020 07:40 AM

@BeddieKU23

I wonder if Big Mac took dance lessons? It's what he needed to improve his agility.

Self talking about the team • Oct 03, 2020 07:39 AM

Bryce is being pushed. No worries. He likes it. He needs it. He's the guy on a shortened stopwatch, so we've got to get his game up to snuff quick!

Now You Too Can Hoop Like Joel Embiid • Sep 18, 2020 11:24 PM

Wish I could still ball. I'd drop the cash and see if I could stumble around a court like a 7-footer! ha.

Preseason Predictions • Sep 13, 2020 09:03 PM

@wissox

Too painful to look back and wonder now. Can only look forward!

Are These Athletes Taught Math? • Sep 08, 2020 11:30 PM

I do think young athletes are starting to learn math. At least, their agents seem to be learning. And sometimes corporate wonks can't count either...

https://www.postfun.com/sports/nike-lost-14-billion-down-the-drain-from-a-costly-mistake-they-made-with-steph-curry/ ↗

I'm still sending spirit energy out to Jaybate...

Langston Wilson • Sep 08, 2020 11:25 PM

@justanotherfan

I agree with your assessment. And also think, like you, he can add on 15 or 20 without it impacting his quickness. Maybe even faster if he is trained properly. I also noticed the little hitch in his shot. Not sure if that gets worked out in college, probably not... but for sure at the next level. I've seen him make a crossover spin move that competed every bit with Wiggin's famed move at Kansas. Actually.. he has a lot more moves in his arsenal.

It would be great if he could come to Kansas and not be the over-hyped pre-legend guy who inherits all the pressure, and all the extra defenders. His best opportunity in D1 would be to come to a team like Kansas and let the sun shine on some other players so he can just play his game.

Langston Wilson • Sep 08, 2020 09:21 PM

Langston Wilson... D1 caliber? Guess he convinced Self. Future NBA caliber? Obviously needs to eat his wheaties and steak.

Final Four bound!!! • Aug 13, 2020 04:03 PM

@Marco

I wish I had your optimism. I'm thinking we have a horrible winter when mixing Covid with influenza. Testing will go sky high and slowed way down, becoming completely useless unless we have a fast home test by then. If this is the case... everything will be shutdown. The time to bring the virus down is NOW and it isn't coming down fast enough. I don't think we will have sports this year in college.

Bill's Evolution - The Athletic • Aug 11, 2020 01:01 PM

Can't read the article.... so I'm going to dream what it could be and what I hope it is.

I hope it is about Bill seeing the game through new eyes. The opportunity on offense is the ability to attack from 5 positions all over the floor instead of limiting by position. "Positionless basketball!" I've heard Bill talk about it before. This is college basketball. You won't meet a team without defensive weakness from any of the 5 positions on the court. Take what the defense gives.

Does size matter? Not when there are liabilities in size. Not when you trade size for slowness, loss of handles, loss of shooting from the perimeter, loss of passing skills, loss of playmaking. Marcus Garrett may have been the most transitional player Kansas has ever had. He can guard 1 - 4 well. He's a skinny kid, not that tall. And the game has shifted. The rules favor him. The rules have turned against big guys bullying their way to the rim. Bill must see this. He must imagine what a team full of guys with Marcus' capabilities on defense could do especially with more offensive skills than Marcus.

It would be nice to end the days when we have a big guy on the perimeter catching the ball while having no capability to dribble in or shoot the ball from that distance... allowing his man to sag, allowing defenses to know what will happen next. Don't get me wrong... I'd take another Doke. He wasn't the norm in the post with his high efficiency of finishing.

K.J. Adams • Aug 07, 2020 06:31 AM

@justanotherfan said in K.J. Adams:

@drgnslayr said in K.J. Adams:

I’ve never seen a KU freshman show up to Kansas knowing how to rebound. Wait… I said NEVER… okay… thinking, thinking… I’ll keep to my original statement.

Thomas Robinson. Averaged almost 3 rebounds a game in just 7 minutes as a freshman. Averaged over 6 rebounds a game as a sophomore in just 14 minutes. TRob understood how to get position and pursue the basketball.

I'm going to accept being wrong here. TROB was solid on the boards in his freshman year.. mostly because of his hustle. But he did show how position counted. He went on to become even better!

K.J. Adams • Aug 04, 2020 03:17 AM

I've never seen a KU freshman show up to Kansas knowing how to rebound. Wait... I said NEVER... okay... thinking, thinking... I'll keep to my original statement.

K.J. Adams • Aug 03, 2020 09:57 PM

@justanotherfan

Hard to say, but he hustles on the court and has size.

We don't know how he was utilized in high school. Doubtful he was planted under the basket all the time. I see often he was on the perimeter to shoot or drive.

K.J. Adams • Aug 01, 2020 07:12 AM

@Texas-Hawk-10

I'm more interested in Adam's handles and jump shot than if he's fast-twitch or not. I have more confidence in Self adapting his strategy around finding the right 5 to put on the floor. We saw that this last year. Going big didn't work. If he can use his size and still motor well, he'll be an asset in a smaller lineup.

He's a Jayhawk now and I welcome him to Lawrence!

K.J. Adams • Jul 31, 2020 03:36 PM

@Texas-Hawk-10

I always appreciate your response and more than often agree. I know I'd rather have every player playing at fast twitch level compared to a slow twitch level. But I've seen many players succeed without being super blessed with high twitch capabilities. I think aggressiveness is still a huge factor and I remember so many times when Perry and Dedric let up sometimes after being rejected. Even the fast twitch players get rejected sometimes (but less). Body build and strength is also a monster factor. Right away I think about Charles Barkley... someone not blessed with too much fast twitch but dominated the boards in the NBA.

Fast twitch is a great benefit... but not a factor by itself that will decide if a player can be effective or not. I do agree with you and others, that it is a factor that comes more into play in D1 versus high school.

K.J. Adams • Jul 31, 2020 02:14 AM

Really enjoying all the posts.

Concerning KJ... my opinion is only based on these two clips. What I see, I like. I see a young man who will probably be here for 3 to 4 years, but can offer some contribution from day 1. He still has another year of high school ball, and I bet he either puts on more height or girth, maybe both. He has a great build already, and that means he's a guy that won't be restricted in his early days at Kansas as we wait for physical development.

I wouldn't say he's a super fast twitch player, but then, he has muscle mass as a junior in high school. He may fool some people at Kansas and suddenly be called a "late bloomer." I see aggressiveness, and you really can't teach that. Add that with size and strength and how can anyone think he won't contribute. I don't see how anyone can put him in the same breath as Ellis or Lawson. His aggressiveness and body separate him completely.

I may be trying to paint him with rosy glasses... but I wonder if what is mistaken for slow twitch is a guy who just plays under control. We've experienced off-the-charts fast twitch with players like Wiggins... who really couldn't translate that on the court. Granted... OAD!

K.J. Adams • Jul 28, 2020 06:43 PM

I'm really liking what this young man has to offer. His decision is coming on Friday.
Any of you have thoughts on his abilities?

Sure looks like he has amazing potential to me!

The NCAA Belongs on Probation... • Jul 20, 2020 03:09 PM

@Kcmatt7

I think it shows the struggle of being a head coach at a school like Kansas. I recall how much pressure Self had for bringing in top tier talent, too. To me, it seems that there is so much risk going after that top shelf. Most of those players have "handlers" around them.

The NCAA Belongs on Probation... • Jul 20, 2020 04:03 AM

@BeddieKU23

Right.... so they should apply the same concepts to themselves!

The NCAA Belongs on Probation... • Jul 18, 2020 07:09 PM

So now we discover that Diallo (Drame) may have received Adidas money. This is separate from the $165 benefit Drame received which made Diallo ineligible until the NCAA cleared him for eligibility again. Since they cleared Diallo (after investigation)... and now we discover Drame may have received $ from Adidas... doesn't that put the NCAA as the guilty party for clearing Diallo when he shouldn't have been?

This sounds like "lack of institutional control" by the NCAA! Especially since the NCAA investigated Diallo. Kansas, and the case against them with Diallo, Preston and Silvio did NOT involve a formal investigation by Kansas. Right?

So who is guilty here? Kansas? Or the NCAA?

@mayjay

Thanks for the link.

The DL story is hilarious! That ID wouldn't allow you to buy alcohol.

I more enjoyed the story that follows:

"The intrigue into Zion Williamson’s lawsuit is about smearing Duke basketball’s image"

The writer has his head shoved so far up Duke's backside he doesn't even know that article does a better job of convincing people that Duke is dirty, than clean.

"The people that care this case care about catching Coach K in a lie. They care about proving that the holier-than-thou way that Duke carries itself is fraudulent. They care about finding a way to get something — anything — to stick to the program that recruits better than anyone else in an era where recruiting is the Wild, Wild West.

Do you remember when Lance Thomas dropped $30,000 in cash as a down payment for $67,800 in jewelry a year before Thomas and Duke won the 2010 national title? Nothing came of it. Remember when Corey Maggette admitted to receiving payments from Myron Piggie before becoming a member of the team that made it to the 1999 national title game? Nothing came of that, either. Nothing happened when Wendell Carter’s name popped up on expense reports submitted by Christian Dawkins. Nothing happened when Michael Avenatti alleged that Nike paid Marvin Bagley’s family."

Yep... we remember. Thanks for flaunting those stories again and how Duke can get away with these situations without lifting an eyebrow from the NCAA. We'll remember those stories along with seeing the upgraded house rented by Zion's family during his one year at Duke while we get strong-armed by the NCAA's paid assassins.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in What we all knew was happening at Duke with Zion is finally hitting the fan.:

The IARP also does their own investigation of cases and since their investigators have much more powerful connections than the NCAA, their investigation is likely to be much more thorough and in-depth than the NCAA’s investigation. Their investigators include connections to the FBI, IRS, and other federal agencies so they have the ability to gain access to records and documents the NCAA can’t get ahold of.

I think you need to read what you wrote here. The FBI doesn't even have access to IRS records. I will keep them called a"goon squad." "Connections?" We have laws protecting the public against "connections."

The federal investigation in this case should have the highest authority in an investigation.

Self and Kansas will have the ability to sue and the authority of IARP can be challenged in a federal courtroom. There could come other remedies, too, including financial remedies.

So you think Self, Kansas and their legal counsel would walk right into a firing squad?

@Texas-Hawk-10

I respect your overall knowledge of this case. You know more than I do. Most of what I share is based on my personal experience with the civil court. Letter of the law is important, but the spirit of the law counts, too. From what I see in this, Kansas has a great position in a courtroom, especially a federal courtroom.

Don't you think Kansas expected it would be used against them to accept Adidas as a booster? Were we so desperate to get a bench player back? You know the answer to that. We were strong-armed into that move. We are heroes for coming to the defense of our player who was "played" by the NCAA.

Take a break from reading bylaws, stand back and develop the narrative of this case. That will be a better representation of what Kansas will deliver in court.

Our world would be so much more dangerous if courts only used the letter of the law. Just think at all those wordy disclosures each of us sign off on to use a website or install a piece of software. If we only used letter of the law those lengthy "legal documents" would turn us all into serfs.

And the NCAA turning to use a third-party group of legal goons is not going fair well in court either. Just my opinion. I suspect any finding they come up with will warrant a monster financial penalty. Once again, we are victims and they have us in a position to strong-arm us, and they did! What is the real purpose of a third-party being involved? It's setting up a kangaroo court stacked with goons! Not going to play well in a federal court. '

Imagine you decided to use a piece of software you bought on an extra computer and were not allowed to do so in the legal blurb you "accepted" when first using that software company's software. On line 3847, it says clearly in legal talk that you can't do that and you have accepted them as becoming a private member of their organization. They catch what you did and they've setup a bogus group of thugs to decide your fate.

Do you realize how a decision in the NCAA's favor here would most likely change everything in our society, for the negative? It would give a path for corporatism to smash us all like ants (further). If the NCAA wins in a lower court, it's a clear case for appeal continually until reaching the Supreme Court (if necessary).

I think the NCAA will eventually smell the roses and will back down. Hopefully, sooner rather than later. This should be negotiated to somehow allow both sides to save face and move on.

@Texas-Hawk-10

I understood your post. Your most recent response exactly lays it out and I agree with you.

Yes... under duress, we agreed to accept the NCAA's statement that Adidas is a booster in order to lower the over-penalty of Silvio. Why do you think we would put ourselves in such a position just to free a bench player?

What many see as a mistake on the part of KU... I see as a positive move. The NCAA is playing checkers while KU is playing chess and are many moves ahead. I seriously doubt that it makes a difference if KU accepts Adidas as a booster. These strong-arm bouncers hired by the NCAA to role us are going to do the same thing regardless of KU's decision on Adidas.

When the NCAA charges hit KU we were already prepared on what to do. We are a victim in this case and we knew our strength was to stay in that role. When the NCAA extorted us to free Silvio, they did nothing but enhance our position in the victim role.

I'm certain I see through crimson/blue glasses... but I look at it this way; the way we played this definitely requires self belief in our innocence. I've often called Bill Self the "Riverboat Gambler" because of the way he holds his cards close to his chest and often gives vague info about the hand he is in. This is NOT how he is playing this! There is no bluff here. Way too dangerous to put Kansas in the position of relying on a bluff. No one knows the insides of this case more than Self. If we were guilty of institutional violations he wouldn't be playing the long hand. We will see if the NCAA and their roughnecks will call on their hand or fold, but if they call, we can expect this case to extend into a federal courtroom, perhaps regardless what the NCAA does now.

@Texas-Hawk-10

I'm not sure it matters what KU "acknowledged" because even KU can't prove payments were made. At a certain point, we just said "tell us what you want us to say and we will say it." That's the victim role. But yes... if the proof is there then we played players that were ineligible. I think that substantiates forfeiting games. That doesn't mean the university gets punished with loss of scholarships or post season bans or coaching penalties. Then they need to prove conspiracy.

I suggest the NCAA treat Duke similar as Kansas or it will become part of Kansas and Self's federal case.

@Texas-Hawk-10

KU played no part in those payments and were found to be victims in that process. What is alleged at Duke is Duke participated in payment to Zion's family.

@jayballer73

I see this as NCAA suicide if they go after us and let Duke off the hook. KU and Self are sitting comfortably in the role of victim and that is only enhanced with the contrast created from the Duke case.

I think the prosecution of Kansas could end up being the added pressure for the NCAA to pursue a Duke prosecution. Imagine if the NCAA nails us and turns right around and let's Duke off the hook? Kansas and Self have already shown they are not going to back down to the NCAA and will likely pursue a federal court remedy.

There is another way to think about this. That the Duke case will save KU because the NCAA won't want to punish Duke, so they have to let KU off the hook, too. I see this as a probable outcome. Lots of threats right now and in the end the NCAA makes some kind of verbal slap on the hands for both programs and life goes on.

Wearing a mask taught me a lesson.... my breath stinks! Might be an effective way to socially distance though!

I'm using breath mints now... true story!

@Crimsonorblue22

What idiots! They are going to own this virus in Wichita and the economic impact! We will quickly see the difference between places that enforce mask use and places that don't!

"“I have to detain to get your name and stuff over a mask?” said Sheriff Easter. “Yeah, I am really not wanting to put our deputies in that situation at all.”"

So, essentially, there is no current law enforcement in Wichita! Law enforcement isn't interested in detaining anyone for anything!

The biggest problem is the politicizing of the virus.

COVID-19 doesn't care about left or right. It just hunts out as many new hosts as possible. This may be a new virus, but it's old science.

We put a mask on and that pretty much converts this from a pandemic to just one of the infectious diseases in the pile that already exist.

All the social distancing approaches make sense... but closing our economy should only be the most-desperate action to take because nothing will kill more people than a dead economy.

We better get used to a new world where masks will go on and off in our future as we face other infectious diseases. The world has too many people and they all travel everywhere. A bat infects someone in Asia and before you know it, small town USA pays a price, too.

We will probably need to keep masks on for a year... but if we do we can knock down this heavily contagious virus that is completely embedded into our culture now. We don't need to keep our fingers crossed for a vaccine. That's fools gold because by the time it is tested and developed for mass use, the virus will change and the vaccine may not be effective. Truth is, we don't need a vaccine, we need the public to come together and do the right thing and mask up! It will prove to us how effective it works and it will be easier next time to bring masks back when a much more deadly virus comes our way.

Kelly says "masks on" from this Friday! If she keeps masks on I can see the possibility of a semi-normal Jayhawks basketball season coming... maybe even fans at games!

"Masks on" for the next two months should get us back down where schools can reopen!

Home Court Advantage? • Jun 23, 2020 05:48 PM

It might scare opponents. Back in my school days I lived just down from Naismith Drive on Alabama. Every chance I got I would come play ball in AFH, often alone in the gym. That building never stays too quiet. Many say it is haunted from the legends of the game. It makes constant sounds, often very loud sound... probably from metal expanding or whatever.

Anyone else in here have experience in AFH when it was empty?