@FarmerJayhawk said in Bracket chat:
I think we still beat Samford. If Nick played for them we’d all be freaking out 😂
lol fricken Seth Davis said oh ya he had Samford before the McCullar news and now loves his Samford pick-- - -oh I would love to click my heels together and take it to these P - - - - -
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Bracket chat:
@jayballer67 That was the belief about the Big 12 tournament as well and KU shit the bed when they had no pressure on them.
doesn't matter now with McCullar OUT
The guys should be able to play a little more free this year, I mean no one is thinking we stand a snowballs chance in hell to do squat - -Greenburg leading the charge on that wagon - -all kinds of shade.
So pressure on THE OTHER TEAMS- -our guys just go out and play -- we win - -we win and advance and if not -well no surprise then right. -- Hell ya carry that chip -- make it a big one
Man I'm ready . Listened to Coach & Gildersleeve things that were asked Coach of course was ask about Jalen- -- Coch kinda smirked a little and he said your gonna keep asking and then said Jalen was out there went through some drills like others but Coach was pleased. - -Talked about this was their most complete 8 weeks of like lifting and off season , was asked about Marshall and replied how these kids were still supposed to be in high School but was pleased, talked about continuity with the new Coaches kinda basic stuff but seemed pretty pleased and ready to go.
Gildersleeve was talking about usually during the 8 week off Season lifting and stuff he said it's usually around the 6th week players get kinda like ok let's get through this not really wanting to be thee kinda of tired of seeing Gildersleeve and such.
He said but I'm telling you I did not hear anything like that at all with these guys, he says I wear not one word until like the last day he said they were kinda squirley so i knew was gonna have to rein them in some.
He talked briefly about a couple of players saying Harry Stewart's Calves were bigger then his thighs and his thighs were bigger then his waist -- you get the gest - -Harry a big boy , could be a punishing back.
Then he said JaCobe Bryant had the best off Season since he has been here and maybe ot even physically but how he had bought into his diet and such
I'm ready - -Let's go
Garrison I think could be nice, but IF Hunter does come back and then w have Flory not sure that would work
@BeddieKU23 said in Liam McNeeley:
Players have more leverage then ever, can leave whenever, make demands now and not just role, $$$$$$.
Hopefully this all works out in KU's favor in the end but this is definitely a typical recruitment these days if it's really open
agree, this dam portal and the volume of NIL $ $ $ wise has done in College sports
@BeddieKU23 said in Bracket chat:
I don't doubt that the video may have been made to generate interest (clicks) but none of us know the extent of the injury either.
I hope he has practiced as Self has said. I don't think we can win without him.
Teams are not exactly required to be forthcoming about injuries either. It's backfired for teams like Florida State in football. There's a competitive edge + a scouting thing, keep your opp guessing by making them prepare for everyone. I know it's still early but do you have 100% confidence right now both are going to play?
Actually I do believe it or not , and I believe that Hunter will be very close to 100 % -- Now Kevin , again I think he will go, like I read from another poster and have to agree with , he said you can't tell me Kevin will not at least give it a go saying that with Kevin knowing that this is going to be his last tournament - -last chance - -no way will he not go out and try at least.
I think Kevin will probably be like possibly 75 % -could be wrong and have been many times but that is what my gut says
Read a post from individual that said , he had heard Hunter on a spots show this morning out of the DC area.- -Hunter saying his shoulder had actually popped back in shortly after the incident -- that he been doing no contact , but he said he felt like he would be 100% ready to go come game time.
kind of had to chuckle a little on this as he also stated that he couldn't get over the intensity of our fan base talking about the rabid atmosphere at AFH - -and also the fan reaction on Twitter after we lose lmao.
@MR11 said in Liam McNeeley:
I will never really fault coach for not giving a player a guarantee they will start. Sell in a role for them, yes. Say we have a spot that is theirs for the taking, sure. But if a someone thinks that they don't need to perform day in and out to get minutes, than they are going to cause problems for the program eventually.
Correct - -what ever happened to the dys where you EARNED you spot on the floor. You just don't walk in with the approach well these guys need me so if they need me I'M STARTING ?
I have my hesitations on this video - - we could put the shoe on the other foot just Like McCullar, all these specialists on him saying thee was no reason Kevin couldn't get back on the court and play , that it was more mental and yet Mccullars camp saying different.
Sure Hunter was hurt , popped right back in , even goodman siad this guy hadn't looked at the x rays on Hunter - -I'll wait and see, Coach said he had been practicing and good to go - - it's looks more like click bait for Goodman and that mess that's right there, they always looking for clicks
Who didn't see this coming - - -As soon as he asked for his release , supposedly it came down to KU ? Indiana originally. If he was truly that serious about KU - - Indiana no longer his choice should of been automatic, no reason to screw around just come out- --say I'm going to KU. - -Period.
Nike is in deep and look out Kentucky , U Conn , Houston and big others have been talking to him -- he says he is keeping his options open - -duh - -ya think ?- all we heard he is a lock , a lock pssst until he is on campus, far from a lock. Bill will get his playes but like is being said now hearing not looking like he lands he - far from a lock
@RockChalkinTexas said in Bracket chat:
Listen to Paul Pierce here. :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:
You know Paul was nick named the Truth - & that was what he was saying THE TRUTH - -Paul keepin it 100 all the way, loved this guy
Proud of the Ladies - - 7Woems Big 12 teams- - 8 Men's Big 1tteams-- been a good day - -Leet's go Ladies
I love he same guy that said we have probably the best starting 4 in America is now talking his bunk, the only ones seriously that I would worry about is Purdue - -- Tennessee , not worried about Gonzaga at all , they do not impress me , especially if Dickinson and McCullar are healthy - -I think they play a long as KU as a team plays
Ok call me crazy but I like our bracket, if Dickinson and McCullar play and I think they will we could play 3 games or so
Seth Greenburg needs - to shut the hell up. I would love it if we made a run- - Hey Seth let me holler at ya
@Gorilla72 said in Tourney hopes:
The Athletic has KU as a 3 in the West Region playing Colgate in the opening round. If they get by, KU would face (probably) Wisconsin. No thanks.
Don't worry were not going to be a 3 -- your looking at a 4 . -- We took a couple of bad losses latte, not Quad baad but we got blasted and I think they said we were what? - -9-9 last games- -those go against you. Health of team, how you have been playing - -strength of opponent things like that.
One thing we got to remember even if we did play Wisconsin , we are going to be playing the same guys we started with- -the guys that beat Kentucky -- that beat U Conn - -that beat Houston that beat Tennessee - -so I'm really not worried about Wisconsin. - Would be a dog fight , but they put their pants on one leg at a time just like us - head up & think positive - -- new beginning everyone is 0 - 0 6 game schedule -- -ROCK CHALK
Couldn't find the thread on the portal , so put this here. someone should consider, and guess Ku has already made contact is Jacob Martin - - a 6'8 guard averages 19.4 ppg --- - and shoots 42 % from the three, could take some of the worry on the 3 ball and great size for the guard spot
Yestreday was not a good day to be a projected # 1 seed for the upcoming tourney lol. - -3 out of the 4 projected got whupped
I DID NOT see that coming.
i thought Iowa St had a good chance winning tonight and I felt Houston will go farther in the NCAA and I still feel that way but I did not see this coming
Drew to Louisville ? - - Tang to Baylor ? - - I dunno , never say never
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Tourney hopes:
Is ksu in or out? Miss state/Auburn getting testy. Don't care for either coach! Jans is creepy.
K/State has no chance - - they didn't do enough in the Tourney
I'm going out an pick Champion, I'm going to say Hoston claims the title. They for one just don't seem to get rattled, example last night Tech hits them hard in their come back before half - - Houston responds with a 31-5 run. I have seen how they go on runs, I think they said they have over 30-- -10-0 uns this season. they play you into their game - -their tempo, their defense just smothers you , forcing you to take some really bad shots - - -shot clock shots. They really don't turn the ball over that much , Shead a complete player , cryer sems to be on his game - -Francis solid - -Sharp really solid - just seem they have what it takes for sure. - -I say they win this year
@nuleafjhawk said in Tourney hopes:
This won't be a popular statement, but it's my honest opinion.
That we are a 4 seed is an abomination ro the game. There is no way we should be higher than a 13 seed.This is an awful college basketball team.
THAT'S a little extreme , but like you say it's your opinion so be it
@FarmerJayhawk said in Who would you keep for next year?:
@jayballer67 negative, it’s a 4 year deal unless for off court reasons https://informedathlete.com/the-facts-about-guaranteed-multi-year-ncaa-di-scholarships/ ↗
ph ok , my bad
@FarmerJayhawk said in Who would you keep for next year?:
@jayballer67 said in Who would you keep for next year?:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Who would you keep for next year?:
@jayballer67 said in Who would you keep for next year?:
@wissox said in Who would you keep for next year?:
Not sure about this premise who would we keep? We're obligated to keep players aren't we? Self just can't yank a scholarship from Elmarko because he's been a disappointment, right?
If it were something that we could decide whom to keep, would keep all of them. First half of the season muy bueno, 2nd half, mainly tied into injuries, no bueno. Still not our greatest team ever at full strength, but I'd be looking to add a piece so overwhelmed guys like Braun, Timberlake aren't needed except for spare moments.
Well you would never hear that was the reason he would take his scholarship anyways they would find another reason if Staff didn't want him back. Scholarships are on a year by year bases Self wouldn't have to keep him on Scholarship if there was conflict or many reasons they could find not to extend it for the following yr I think.
If you pull a kid's scholarship simply because the player underperformed, that absolutely destroys a coaches reputation in recruiting. In those situations, coaches will always help a player find another school first which is what Self does. It's easier now with the portal, but even if player finds out their scholarship isn't being renewed, that message will get out and spread quickly as well.
In theory, if someone like Elmarko decided to return to KU, and never put his name in the portal, but his scholarship was not renewed, that's a bad look. Also in theory, If Elmarko put his name in the portal and KU fills out their roster, and then Elmarko decided he'd rather return, then he'd be out of luck and it wouldn't be a bad look for KU because everyone did things the proper way and Elmarko would be out of luck on returning which has happened before as well to other players waiting for offers they thought would come, but never did.
I agree completely, basically I was trying to say was that Scholi's are year by year so ANYTHING COULD happen, but agree it would be a pretty bad look on the School's part
P5 schools have 4 year scholarships and have for quite awhile.
thee not like renewed or offered every yr, thought they were one yr option
Tennessee is going down. - -down 14 to Mississippi St
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Who would you keep for next year?:
@jayballer67 said in Who would you keep for next year?:
@wissox said in Who would you keep for next year?:
Not sure about this premise who would we keep? We're obligated to keep players aren't we? Self just can't yank a scholarship from Elmarko because he's been a disappointment, right?
If it were something that we could decide whom to keep, would keep all of them. First half of the season muy bueno, 2nd half, mainly tied into injuries, no bueno. Still not our greatest team ever at full strength, but I'd be looking to add a piece so overwhelmed guys like Braun, Timberlake aren't needed except for spare moments.
Well you would never hear that was the reason he would take his scholarship anyways they would find another reason if Staff didn't want him back. Scholarships are on a year by year bases Self wouldn't have to keep him on Scholarship if there was conflict or many reasons they could find not to extend it for the following yr I think.
If you pull a kid's scholarship simply because the player underperformed, that absolutely destroys a coaches reputation in recruiting. In those situations, coaches will always help a player find another school first which is what Self does. It's easier now with the portal, but even if player finds out their scholarship isn't being renewed, that message will get out and spread quickly as well.
In theory, if someone like Elmarko decided to return to KU, and never put his name in the portal, but his scholarship was not renewed, that's a bad look. Also in theory, If Elmarko put his name in the portal and KU fills out their roster, and then Elmarko decided he'd rather return, then he'd be out of luck and it wouldn't be a bad look for KU because everyone did things the proper way and Elmarko would be out of luck on returning which has happened before as well to other players waiting for offers they thought would come, but never did.
I agree completely, basically I was trying to say was that Scholi's are year by year so ANYTHING COULD happen, but agree it would be a pretty bad look on the School's part
@wissox said in Who would you keep for next year?:
Not sure about this premise who would we keep? We're obligated to keep players aren't we? Self just can't yank a scholarship from Elmarko because he's been a disappointment, right?
If it were something that we could decide whom to keep, would keep all of them. First half of the season muy bueno, 2nd half, mainly tied into injuries, no bueno. Still not our greatest team ever at full strength, but I'd be looking to add a piece so overwhelmed guys like Braun, Timberlake aren't needed except for spare moments.
Well you would never hear that was the reason he would take his scholarship anyways they would find another reason if Staff didn't want him back. Scholarships are on a year by year bases Self wouldn't have to keep him on Scholarship if there was conflict or many reasons they could find not to extend it for the following yr I think.
Surprised Wichita St still playing, in the AAC they play UAB at 3:00 today -beating Memphis yesterday
I thought we were bad cryin and moanin and bitchin about how bad this Season has turned out, Wasa checking out various sites last night and came across the live podcast from the Duke site right after their loss to NC State last night.
Mercy you would think the world was coming to an end. Talking about how they had NO BENCH-- -hmmm sound familiar?
They are playing only like six players , who they should invite to come back next year, who should be shown the door , Talking about How if they only gonna play six WHY do they have all these guys and how they are losing Powers, how he won't be back.
Giving Scheyer hell for not playing guys and giving them experience when they are up 15 points- -20 points late so they can gain expeience lol - -- Guess we aren't the only fans not happy
Always a great day when Duke loses
@jayballer67 said in Things that we just need to acknowledge & accept:
Well guys, coming to the end of another Season. Not the way we wanted things to turn out, but some things happen & then there are things we just have to acknowledge and accept.
Ya, true at the beginning of the yr KU was pretty much the consensus # 1 ranked team in the Nation, Hunter Dickinson was heard as a heavy lean as possible POY, & 1st team all American , and KU was in pretty heavy of winning the whole dam thing.
Then things out of Control starts to happen . The kid that was going to be one of our outside threats, creates his own shot , scorer gets dismissed ( Arterio Morris ) - -then Kevin McCullar goes down and plays very little late, - -Now Hunter dislocates his shoulder - - - -Timberlake is a no show for 95 % of the Season ( another outside scoring threat ) - & El Marko really struggles ( now probable transfer out ) Those are things that are hard to over come.
Yet there are things that we have to accept other then the other things that was mentioned above. - -We have just got to come to grips that HEY these teams that have joined the Big 12 this Season are better then what was normally thought they would be. Obviously Houston didn't miss a beat, coming from the AAC to the Big 12. BYU is really quite a bit better then I think most would of given them credit for before the Season began. I myself thought they would be alright , but they have done much better. Cincinnati is not no dog, ( 2nd in the Nation in rebounding ) -any given night they can raise up- -Even UCF can bite some one, The League is just better then it was PERIOD, no nights off - - there is no rock lock wins - -evidence ? - unfortunately this year, look at KU @ UCF - -BYU coming into the phog and whooping us - -This is just a war - - night in - -night out.
Thing is this Conference even NEXT YEAR is going to get even tougher - with the teams coming in next year -- Arizona the main one BUT Colorado with Coach Boyle can be a petty solid team - This is going to be even a MORE battle tested Conference , no nights off - no automatic W's -you got to bring your A game every time out. - -I think the days of KU dominating this league are over, YES we will still be one of the Top dogs BUT we have just got to understand much harder to control/run this league. Arizona- - Baylor - - Houston - KU - - Texas Tech - -to name a few - Times are changing , we have just been so spoiled makes this year look doubly bad - -Are we really that bad with even Hunter & Kevin - -OR could it be that this league is just an absolute zoo of a league - -the BEST league in the Land. - -I think it's the later of the two. Gonna be a challenge , but just got to understand ,acknowledge THIS LEAGUE is a Bitch - -ROCK CHALK
Well guys, coming to the end of another Season. Not the way we wanted things to turn out, but some things happen & then there are things we just have to acknowledge and accept.
Ya, true at the beginning of the yr KU was pretty much the consensus # 1 ranked team in the Nation, Hunter Dickinson was heard heavy as possible POY, & 1st team all American , and KU was in pretty heavy of winning the whole dam thing.
Then things out of Control happens . The kid that was going to be one of our outside threats, creates his own shot , scorer gets dismissed ( Arterio Morris ) - -then Kevin McCullar goes down and plays very little late, - -Now Hunter dislocated his shoulder - - - -Timberlake is a no show for 95 % of the Season ( another outside scoring threat ) - & El Marko really struggles ( now probable transfer out ) Those are things that are hard to over come.
Yet there ar things that we have to accept other then the other things mentioned above. - -We have just got to come to grips that HEY these teams that have joined the Big 12 this Season ae better then what was normally thought they would be. Obviously Houston didn't miss a beat, coming from the AAC to the Big 12. BYU is really quite a bit better then I think most would give them credit for before the Season began. I myself thought they would be alright , but they have done much better. Cincinnati not no dog, ( 2nd in the Nation in rebounding ) -any given night they can raise up- -Even UCF can bite some one, The League is just better then it was period, no nights off - - there is no rock lock wins - -evidence ? - unfortunately this year, look at KU @ UCF - -BYU coming into the phog and whooping us - -This is just a war - - night in - -night out.
Thing is this Conference even NEXT YEAR is going to get even tougher - with the teams coming in next year -- Arizona the main one BUT Colorado with Coach Boyle can be a petty solid team - This is going to be even a MORE battle tested Conference , no nights off - no automatic W's -you got to bring your A game every time out. - -I think the days of KU dominating this league are over, YES we will still be one of the Top dogs BUT we have just got to understand much harder to control/run this league. Arizona- - Baylor - - Houston - KU - - Texas Tech - -to name a few - Times are changing , we have just been so spoiled makes this year look double bad - -Are we really that bad with even Hunter & Kevin - -OR could it be that this league is just an absolute zoo of a league - -the BEST league in the Land. - -I think it's the later of the two. Gonna be a challenge , but just got to understand ,acknowledge THIS LEAGUE is a Bitch - -ROCK CHALK
With the possibility of Furphy returning and possibly influencing Liam's decision - --Why couldn't Liam play the 3 and Furphy the 4 ?- -or visa versa. --Furphy decent shooter -adaquate rebounder , Liam good shooter, ok rebounder, don't see why they couldn't make it work.
@TYOHawk said in Who would you keep for next year?:
Keep: Furphy, Hunter
On the fence: KJ and Elmarko
The rest can go honestly
Well hearing he is already gone BUT - - - El Marko can go , I'll even open he door for him. - -For sure Juan is staying
Hell now he puts Jank in
@FarmerJayhawk said in Short Handed Hawks vs Cincy Game Thread:
Johnny will test but my money is on him coming back
I will too. this stretch he has been through proves he still need work
Like someone else said, Why didn't Bill at least let Jank play some?----Might have made more treys ans as bad as Cincinnati played - -might of just been some different
Was Cincinnati thinking it was a time out while Nick hit that shot ? - - Must have cause he made it
Lol atta boy Nick just about 16 minutes to late -
Good night guys - -have a good night, see who we play in the Tourney Sunday
Jackson , Harris - - Timberlake , Furphy - -6-31 from the field
It will be good to have Johnny back next year
Dam Furphy hits a three and they stop ply
holy shit KJ hurt
KJ with 20 points
Cincinnati shooting 12 % in the 2nd half - -
Hey , just think - -if the game ended right now- - - we would be averaging 42 ppg over the last 2 games - - Woo- Hoo