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Must hope LaG makes shots to avoid Vick the Brick moniker.
I doubted Devonte would play as much as he did. What do I know?
Yes, Coach Self is not Nostradamus when it comes to who will play.
What role did Ralph chew up the scenery in?
Howling!
I don't think he ever said Wigs or Oubre were the most athletic guys on the team.
EJ and Trav tied during the years they didn't play.
And Justin Wesley.
The fake Bate Group 1.0 wishes to announce some of its policies regarding 501.c3 sports advocacy.
1.) we are against everything that is wrong.
2.) we are for everything that is right.
3.) we are uncertain about everything that is uncertain.
4.) we are FLATLY against scheduling ISIL or Al Qaeda teams.
5.) we oppose the destabilization of athletic departments trying to do things the right way , so that a coaching slot will open up and be filled by a pet coach.
6.) we believe that all sports advocacy groups should be formed with a sunset clause in their bylaws except for the fake The Bate Group 1.0.
7.) we advocate for Sports advocacy groups that advocate for the NCAA to become strictly a policing organization and for the member institutions to fund a separate organization for negotiating revenue generating contracts.
8.) we are opposed to full, or partial, frontal nudity in basketball.
9.) we are for shoe companies giving an equal number of players and equal amount of money to every program in division one, or for all the money and all of the best players to be given to KU.
10.) we are for Olivia Wilde being given free, lifetime membership in the fake The Bate Group 1.0.
(Note: all fiction and/or parody. No malice.)😀
Self just said he might be the best athlete on the team. Recall ther players he has said this about.
:revolving_hearts:
Thought provoking and an arrow in the heart.
I believe all worthwhile human activities go through good times and bad. During the bad times, it can look pretty bad, as if things cannot be turned around. This is especially true with our republic, but also with a sport like college hoops. I have learned never to give up on either. Either can be wrecked and fall into the ash bin of history at any time. What prevents it is the goodness of the people involved. Do they believe and step up with 5 minutes to go and make a difference? It takes a lot of them stepping up when the going gets tough. They don't all get rewarded either. Sometimes it even looks like they fail, when in fact, they have stemmed the tide, so that others can carry on and get the credit later. College ball may matter more now than ever before, but it is being redefined during a very bad time in USA--a half century of cheap foreign goods and economic decline from massively subsidized investment abroad and too little at home. We export security and import most everything else. This is why all the economic predators at home and abroad are circling sports and the greatest game ever invented like sharks. Sport, especially college hoops, is one of the few domestic sectors getting enough public and private investment/subsidy aimed at growing and developing a domestic product to flourish. So the money whores for private oligarchy are being unleashed on it to steal it and leave a carcass same as was done to USA, when it was flush after WWII. But it's the people great and small making millions of small and large choices that save the republic and the college game another day from the ash bin. It's not how far you fall, it's how high you bounce that tells the story's outcome. Persons like you searching and coming up with a vision of what might be done must come before our leaders can act on it. They can only develop what beliefs and vision are in the people that care for and love the game and the republic. It is painful and often behind the curve for one's lifetime, but if you love and believe it, they will develop it sooner or later, as surely as the Sharks will come, when there is nothing better to eat elsewhere. Rock Chalk!
@VailHawk
Yessssssss! 😎
Can't be a 9-10 because only one reputed OAD in the age of stacks, and no Brown to replace Oubre, or a scoring footer to make us a serious threat in Madness.
So: it's anywhere from an 8 down to a 5. It would be an 8 if all four can play in the rotation through March. 7 if 3 can. 6 if only two can. 5 if only one can.
I would like my Otzleberger medium rare with some footers on it, otherwise not sure he is needed.
Fred Hoiberg doesn't seem to wreak with loyalty to his staff. No wonder the other assistant jumped to St. John's.
Self's loyalty to his assistants is truly admirable in this era.
Rock Chalk Bill!!!!
The fake The Bate Group 1.0 wants to announce as part of its fake advocacy for epistemic integrity in 501.c3 sports advocacy that the reputed allegations about UT Horns were REPUTEDLY reported in "THE CHRONICLE OF HIGHER EDUCATION", founded by a Johns Hopkins prof with grants from Carnegie and Ford Foundations. Johns Hopkins is also sometimes affectionately known as SPOOK TECH. The Chronicle is reputedly a sister publication of THE CHRONICLE OF PHILANTHROPY aka university development aka donation and grant hustling. It appears we now have another possible data point of who is going after sports monies via regime destabilization. Let's give a big round of applause and welcome the private oligarchy backers of SPOOK TECH AND THE CHRONICLE OF HIGHER LEARNING to the mad greedy scramble to get a cut of the sports action. Anything they can do to help KU get a ten stack with four footers would be greatly appreciated. D1: it's fantastical. Seriously, the plot does seem to be thickening.
ALL FOOTERS, all the time!!!!
ADIDAS-FIFA-KU across the chest in bold letters.
Tiny Jayhawk logo where tiny Adidas emblem used to go.
NATO Digital Camouflage .
JOCKS by Varvatos.
MEDRED = only if necessary for a full heal🙏
Once you are above four bedrooms, and a man cave work shop big enough to build your own 20 foot skiff, what's the point? Sasha is too smart to waste his life trying to save up for that McMansion of Self's. Self should sell it, too, and get himself a nice little place that he does not have to employ half of Lawrence to maintain. He is hardly ever there. He has a wife and two kids running around inside Charles Foster Kane's Xanadu. Again: What's the flipping point? People waste too much of their lives on stuff like this. Its not that he can afford it. He could afford a place ten times that size. It isn't getting him a ten stack and four footers. It isn't getting him ANY footers. He is barely eeking out a 1-3 stack. Privacy?This house just makes him easy to find with google earth. If he needs the write-off, then buy a freaking ranch and run a hundred head and a breed some horses. I would take the little house any day. Your kids don't have to wear GPS collars to find them and you can talk to your neighbors over the hedge, if you keep it trimmed low enough. Self would not have to run Mass Street to find out what people were thinking if he just had some neighbors.
Donald Deskey désigned all any empty nester needs back in 1940--the Sports Shack.
And he did okay with an easy chair, too.
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This is certainly a possibility, because everyone needs a near footer lug on the bench in the NBA, but at 30 or so, the NBA a very big mountain to scale, especially if he thinks its no fun anymore in Europe. But at least he could get his wife home to America, bank a little more, and settle down in a three years.
You couch the struggle Brannen faces well.
BG's only ace in the hole is that he played operable from January to April; that usually puts guys on Self's short list ever after; that is how Selden became the chosen.
Greene has to be waaaay better than we realized to be able to beat out Svi, while BG was operable, because Svi has a lot of talent and he was healthy.
Everything hinges on how far he can come back from the cut. It's a long way to come back in one season. With Vick signed, I believe BG will get a MEDRED --medical red shirt--and rehab for a great season after this. BG is a potentially great player once the age dependent developmental wild hair is outgrown (which it now is) and he is healthy, which he will be after a MEDRED.
The rebs were foolish men deluded into thinking they could turn their backs on the republic, take the southern transcontinental railroad route that the entire country had fought for the acquisition of, cut a deal with Mexico for a canal at Tehuantepec, and tell there rest of the republic to screw off. States rights my ass. It was transcontinental railroad, telegraph and interocean canal rights they rebelled for. The Rebs sold out their allegiance to the flag and to the republic for which it stands, and thought they could catch a military alliance with one, or all, of the Crowns of Great Britain, Habsburg Spain, and Louis Napoleon France, which invaded Mexico, while Johnny Reb took on the republic, and all three of those royalist driven monarchies and parlimentary monarchies, after giving Johnny Reb most every rifle, canon, and ship Johnny Reb had to fight with, well, they left Johnny Rebb hung out to dry.
This is a historical lesson that certain axes of private oligarchy in USA today ought to heed. You may think you can sell the republic out, and you can for awhile, but iife is long and unforeseen consequences are endless, and what goes around comes around in the republic.
God bless the republic.
An incredible human being that successfully overcame huge obstacles to win rings in college and pro ball on two continents. The real deal.
Mr. Kaun.
epistemic--of or relating to knowledge or knowing
Just having a little fun with some of the organizations emerging to "clean up" UNC, when there are practically Basketball House of the Rising Sons appearing to prosper across this great land of ours.
Imagine busting a school in the chops for TRYING to keep some of these basketball players eligible and attending classes, while other wildly successful programs running long stacks apparently don't even make them go to class at all and make sure they shuffle off to the pros without anything more than some good eye-hand coordination with video games.
Its running out on all of us, Lump. Its the Tao.
"But until that time, Eustice, until that time."
--Soldier in the Rain
Hello...this is Oswald Bate speaking...Wes, we are here to help."
Frank seems to have the leadership role iced after last season. He was an absolute man that lead the Marauders through Burma Bad Ball.
My Q is: Can Perry resume his pre injury peak and get mean enough to keep opponents from treading on him?
We will have get @approxinfinity to install a boss button!
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Roy Deane and the Dadgum-Jordanaires, a fake Ashville, NC mock country and western band will play at both the press conference announcing Roy's new coaching contract and at the after party celebrating the football program being thrown under the bus. The Dadgum Jordanaires will be playing songs from their new nostalgia LP released analog on petro vinyl called PetroShoeCo Blues-- an East Carolina chart buster. Song titles include: "The Ballad of Mike and Roy," "These Oily Shoes of Mine," "D-Dean Made Us D-Do It," "My Tutor Wrote This Song for Me," and "I'm Down But I Keep Endorsing." All concert and album proceeds will be donated to the new "Literacy for Old Tar Ballers Now Foundation.
(Note: this is all fiction. No malice.)
I am pretty confident that it just came down to Pollard not being able to guard Chuckwu in the paint.
:-)
You can always tell what the real problem is in these stories, because it is 900 pound gorilla in the corner that is not mentioned.
Declining control over access to talent because of the Big Shoe-Agent Complex.
This declining control over access is a wickedly double edged sword, too.
Before the Big Shoe-Agent Complex began to drive the bus so decisively, head coaches felt they had a huge amount of influence over recruiting. Recruiting ability was something a coach took huge pride in and worked hard to wield to his advantage. He made important hires of assistant coaches that had the salesmanship gift that he had and that made his staff win by attracting more talent. Weak recruiters, or recruiters at schools that were hard sells, resorted to all kinds of cheating. Cheating was as college basketball as apple pie. And it was okay in the good old boy fraternity of coaching, because, well, most everyone had to start out in the backwaters and so had to learn how to bend the rules a little or a lot to get the talent needed to make the climb up through the ranks. And by the time you got to the top,or at least the "university of" programs, well, then you played it closer to the vest, and if you got to an elite program, you basically didn't have to do anything at all. And at lots of programs the alumni did all the cheating for you and guarantied you had plausible deniability. Basically, no one could stack the deck. It was tough starting out. And if you didn't win it got tougher and shortly you were out. That was the law of the jungle and it was what made coaching a manly profession. You actually succeeded and failed based on how good of a recruiter you were, and how much you could coach'em up.
But now, coaches stand in one of a couple hand out lines, where the OAD players and the 5 and 4 stars are passed out. Which line you stand in determines how many you get. If you're in one line, you get stacks of 4-10. If you're in another line, you get stacks of 1-3. Its a lot easier to win big in the 4-10 stack hand out line, but that's all. You're still in a handout line, just like the coach that is handed out 1-3 OADs, 5 stars and 4 stars.
It doesn't matter anymore how pretty your teeth are. Whether you wear custom suits and rolexes. Your charisma doesn't matter. If you are in the 4-10 line, you get 4-10. If you are in the 1-3 line you get 1-3. It doesn't even matter what school you're at anymore. The Big Shoe-Agent Complex creates stacks where ever they want them. And just as easily as it designates a place a stack, it can take the stack away, if the coach doesn't win enough.
This is what is so degrading to the coaches.
The coaches used to be lonesome cowboys riding the range, living by their wits, hustling talent, and really only having to worry about alumni factions forming against them and some new chancellor not liking the cut of their jib.
Now, none of that matters in a decisive way anymore.
The alumni and the chancellor know all that matters is what handout line the coach is standing in, and whether or not he is winning enough with the hand-outs, and enabling the OAD branding process sufficiently, to keep getting the prior level of handouts, or maybe even jump up a level of hand outs.
Its is out of everyone's hands now.
It is a simple game now.
You take the handouts, spend your times beating the bushes for the guys that can develop and supplement the handouts, and you try to squeeze out as many wins as you can while letting the handouts protect the merchandize.
Next.
THE BATE GROUP 1.0 that advocates for epistemic integrity in collegiate sports advocacy has a position on the reputed North Carolina easy course infraction case.
We oppose all not for profit 501.c3 sports advocacy for regime change at UNC, except for that advocacy leading to new coaching hires that 501.c3 sports advocacy groups do NOT want hired.
Thank you for this moment of your time.
(Note: all fiction. No malice.)
If it were all up to me, then it would be all up to me."
If we shoot well, we are going to have a high field goal percentage.
Relying on first year players as cornerstones of your offense and defense is like relying on first year players as cornerstones of your offense and defense.
You can count on a young big men playing like young big men.
If you soften up your schedule, you will become softer from your softened schedule--not harder.
In the end, we are all prisoners of our endings.
Stacking players on teams makes stacking more important.
Learning to play on the X-axis enables you to learn to play on the X-axis.
Hunter Mickelson is cryogenically frozen at the end of the bench during games and he is not. (this is the law of the excluded middle, also known in basketball as the the law of the excluded center.)
"If not-A implies both B and its negation not-B, then not-A must be false, then A must be true"), which is the principle known as reductio ad absurdum
"If not-playing because of failure to protect implies both turnovers and its negation not-turnovers, then not-playing because of failure to protect implies must be false, then not playing because of turnovers must be true"), which is the principle known as reductio ad absurdum.
If we don't play defense, we run the risk of playing offense.
The team that scores the most points always wins.
It is not violence that is plaguing the game, it is the physical assaults on other players.
You cannot dribble with your right hand if you are dribbling with your left.
A low number of 3 point attempts indicates very few treys being taken.
Freshmen will be freshmen.
A sophomore jinx occurs only when you have a jinx in your sophomore season.
Enough is enough even when it is more than enough.
(Note: all fiction. no fact. With malice toward none. With charity toward all.)
THE BATE GROUP 1.0 would like to announce its fake incorporation as a not-for-profit 501.c3 corporation instituted to advocate for "epistemic integrity in 501.c3 sports advocacy.”
(Note: It would like to incorporate, but it cannot yet actually incorporate, as such, so it is pretending to have done so for the sake of this fake announcement.)
The roots of THE BATE GROUP 1.0 go back 20 years to a meeting held inside the mind of our founder, Oswald Bate III, who was then among a lunatic fringe of faculty members seeking reform of their outer worlds via 501.c3 sports advocacy exclusively from inside their inner worlds.
Our founder reputedly invited imaginary professors of sports business, imaginary board members of sports advocacy organizations, imaginary members of advisory groups and of sports sanctioning organizations, and so on to a meeting in the same delusional hotel in his mind as that visited by Jack Nicholson's character in Stanley Kubrick’s "The Shining." Out of this imaginary but momentous meeting arose The National Association of Imaginary 501.c3 Sports Reform and Advocacy Groups (NAI501.c3SR&AG).
Over the years THE BATE GROUP 1.0 has, despite its fakes, spearheaded advocacy for reform in 501.c3 sports advocacy.
Recently, THE BATE GROUP 1.0 has become “in imaginary residence” at all leading universities with ties to private oligarchic power that seek to use 501.c3 sports advocacy as a trojan horse for advancing regime change throughout collegiate sports and through 501c.3 sports advocacy itself.
THE BATE GROUP 1.0 has many, many policy positions on many, many issues beyond our slogan of “advocating epistemic integrity in 501.c3 sports advocacy.”
Foremost among our policy commitments is opposition to the use of 501.c3 sports advocacy organizations to destabilize sports regimes so as to create job openings for pet coach candidates.
But that just scratches the surface of what we at the ever so fake THE BATE GROUP 1.0 hope to advocate for (and against) ludicrously down the road.
Welcome to the era of fake not-for-profit 501.c3 Sports Advocacy reform.
Please give generously, even though we don’t need it, because we are being strongly supported by certain fake axes of private oligarchy that have lots of secret fraternities and make their members appear naked in kinky rituals when young in hopes of building a cadre of seemingly respectable weirdoes that can be coerced later in life into pursuing control of the college sports goose that is laying a golden egg.
(Note: All fiction. No malice.)
I would be.
Carmelo started and made a high trey percentage his freshman year that he lead his team to a national championship.
Alas, did I miss someone that did something like that last season that is returning?
l am not accustomed to being the doubting Thomas here, so I will put on the half full lenses here for a moment.
I think Svi and Greene on the wings are a killer combination. I would start them as a tandem at 2/3, if either got consistent on both ends of the floor and Svi showed he could make shots; THAT"S HOW JUICED I AM ABOUT THEM IF THEY EVER SHOW THEY CAN GETTER DONE.
This tandem would then let Selden be brought as a defensive specialist to lock down which ever guy--Svi or Green--was having trouble guarding his man, or just to spell them with an actual gain in overall floor game.
This tandem with Selden rotating for them would then allow Frank and Devonte to become a true one-two punch at the point guard and free Devonte from the hassle of always preparing for two positions. It is a waste of Devonte that slows his development playing him at 2, when we really should not have to do it.
Vick should then be the injury insurance guy at 2/3 that his skinny green wood too young physique suggests he should be. And if he turns out to be an early bloomer, well, then stick him at two and just make him learn that position and keep Selden at the three and let him focus on one position for a change.
This creates an awesome perimeter/back court game that is superior to most opponents, can matchup pretty much anyway they want, and can blow games wide open in three minutes with Frank, Svi, and Greene treyballthing them into oblivion.
But notice that everything hinges on Greene getting it on both and ends and Svi's rapid development into a 40 percent trey baller with game on both ends. Svi has to play like a draft choice for this great perimeter/backcourt game to be enabled. Anything less and we are stuck with Frank at 1, Devonte at 2 and Selden at 3 and Svi and Greene and Vick filling situationally and with significant fall off from rotaton. And the starting group of Frank, Devonte, and Selden are just adequate once we get to the Sweeth Sixteen, nothing special, whereas the Frank/Svi/Greene lineup with the superb back up rotation is basically an every game matchup advantage all the way to the national championship game.
Now the inside is just a problem, because of limited scoring ability and height at the five, among the newcomers and limited talents among the returners. The only possible wild card is Lucas. He showed some serious nonlinear improvents in numbers intermittently down the stretch. Were he to develop just a little over the season with a money shot, we could play through him and then, coupled with a scenario where Svi plays like a draft choice, then this team could win a ring.
Otherwise it looks like another very bumpy season to me.
There is strong reason to believe he will eventually be a draft choice. I just wonder if he can suddenly be one this year.
Good to read your glass all full take. I can now use it to reason with my other half not to cut back the cable channels for another season! Rock Chalk!!!
My Uncle, who just passed, at 90 something, said Omaha Beach was bad, but the Battle of the Bulge was what was toughest for him, then he fought in Korea and got caught up in the Chinese charge and then the long fight to recover. He was in rifle companies in both wars. Said guys were just as dead in Korea and it was just as cold as in the Bulge. An amazing man. All days of observance and memorial are only the tips of the iceberg.
Way to clear the air and hang it all out.
But I would be prepared for something less than a stellar season.
Self has tried to soften the schedule, but it has enough big time opponents that it could still blow the confidence of all our newbies.
I am still very concerned about our lack of scoring out of the five.
I don't see a draft choice 3 unless Svi undergoes a metaphosis on the order of a butterfly.
Selden gives me serious nerves until I see him put together 5 consecutive good games.
I figure Frank will be better, but I figure his trey percentage cannot be as high as it was last season.
BG seems like a big fat question mark.
And I just don't know if Perry can stand up to all the abuse he is going to get. After that punch out by WSU was allowed by refs, I worry that Perry is going to get a number of those kinds of cheap shots until some ref kicks a guy out of a game for doing it once.
I agree with you that there is a lot of potential this season for something better.
But freshman bigs are always a scary gambit unless they are elite OADs.
Diallo is an OAD, but I don't know if he is one of those rare ones that can dominate during his OAD season, and we need him to be able to.
Thx for introducing that. I had missed it. It seems indicative of the complex dynamics that cascade once regime change begins to be imposed.
Interesting idea. I will be a good board rat and watch for evidence supporting, or refuting, what seems a hypothesis.
I sure would go to a movie starring George Clooney and Denzel "Alpha ZXT" Washington with this scenario. :-)
Alas, China-American relations have always been very hard for me to figure out. I have never studied them systematically and they are complicated to put it mildly. The moment I heard President Obama say we were going to have a China Pivot, I knew it was going to have substantial implications that I wouldn't be able to anticipate. :-(
I am not anti-Nike at all.
I like Nike. I like adidas. I like under armor.
And I would really like it if Red Wing, or W.C. Russell, or Alden shoes, would get into the sports shoe and apparel business, too. (Note: I just love W.C. Russell moccassin chukkas.)
I am pro KU and pro KU getting the best recruits it can.
If KU realigning with Nike would get KU a ten stack and four footers, then I would be for it, unless some law enforcement or sports regulatory authority were to tell me that that would be a bad move for KU.
I know our oil companies do some pretty horrible things, but on the whole I like our oil companies better than I like Russian oil companies not jointly owned by our oil companies.
Same with Petro Shoecos.
I am an American and so I am always going to side with Nike over adidas, except when Nike is breaking a law, or when Nike has some kind of market advantage that keeps KU from recruiting as well as UK and Duke.
Otherwise, Nike is okay.
But the problem is that apparently KU is having some trouble getting the kind of bigs it needs to be as competitive as the father of all basketball programs ought to be.
And so, as a good fan, I just have to post about it from time to time.
Rock Chalk!
Exactly. Regime change often involves nothing more than bringing the existing regime into greater compliance.
I stand corrected. But surely ADM figures in their somewhere, too, doesn't it?
Who would have thought that Rollerball would ever be as accurate in its portrayal of the future of sport as it was?
BULLETIN:
ISU OFFERS MARSHA CORN FUTURES TO SEAL A DEAL.
I hear they even glue the pop corn to the cobs. :neckbeard:
Me Marsha. I :heart: Ames.