Yes, assuming typical injuries, it will very soon be as short handed as the 2012 Team.
It will thus have the need and opportunity for great heroism by some remaining good players and glue guys and improvisational genius by Self.
This is a recipe for a special Team.
And what about the daction??
P.S.: Asserting it appears more likely for pot dependence to symptomize over time than suddenly is a logical inference qualified in terms of probability, not certainty, as based on my observations of other persons. You were apparently presuming I was doing otherwise. So: no I was not presuming at all on that count. My anecdotal survey may be unintentionally biased in sample, but presuming? Nope.
Could it be that you are presuming pot is the issue and so setting the condition of this discourse fundamentally on that presumption?
Have you (or I) adequately characterized and documented pot dependence, to make it sufficiently meaningful to Braggâs case? Or anyone elseâs? Iâm not sure on reconsideration.
In terms of medical science, pot dependence is reputedly quite unlike alcohol addiction, or heroin addiction. Many argue against it being an addictive substance at all. What does it mean to say pot dependence? Many none addictive issues, like massive weight gain, and weight gain supplements, are dots. Another dot is mental stress from a star confronting less than star success. Another dot is education and campus life waking a person up to a world full of more than basketball. These are REAL dots, not like reputed, vaguely defined pot dependence.
Could pot dependence not be Braggâs problem at all? If there were a significant chance pot werenât his actual problem, but just an excuse for something else, would it be okay to âpresumeâ and explore that possibility without suggesting there is something flawed about one presumption, but not with another?
Could it be you are then compounding your original presumption by presuming another something that appears improbable? that a college basketball player that you presume to be pot dependent, what ever that exactly means in Braggâs case, or at least somehow pot afflicted, is also presumed to have grown suddennly so, when pot usage among highschool basketball players from Braggâs apparent socio-economic background is reputedly significant?
Which should we presume? That Bragg grew suddenly pot dependent at KU, or grew so over time? One or the other happened, based on your presumption, and IMHO it matters, because in one case a pot free kid came to Kansas basketball culture and got suddenly pot dependent from the pot available in our basketball culture. In that case KU WOULD SEEM TO HAVE SOME MORAL/ETHICAL obligation to stand by him -and help him, because as you indicate some just are vulnerable to pot dependence/affliction, others are not. KU Leadership realizing that would seem to have some responsibility to help Bragg. If he could stay pot free, or pot independent in his home culture, but not at KU, then KU needs to clean up the pot, right? Alternatively, if the pot dependence/affliction came with him to KU basketball cultur then KU would seem to bear less responsibility.
And here I am presuming that universities and their basketball programs should have some responsibility for the basketball pot culture they bring teenagers into. Not total, but some.
When I entered into your chain of presumptions I tried to introduce more probability to one link of your chain of presumptions to make your dot connecting a little stronger. I believe I pushed your presumptive dot connecting toward greater, not lesser fit. But nothing is certain life but death, taxes and and at least some presumption in analytic discussions of presumed pot dependence.
Rock Chalk!
What do you think the odds are that a KU basketball player from Braggs background of playing the game
Gotcha!
Pass.
Thanks.
Glad I wasnât missing something.
I have never met, nor read of, a pot user that suddenly became nonlinearly less functional only after several years of pot use.
You mention pot as a drug leading to other drugs. Is your dot connecting suggesting other drugs to be at the root of his problems?
The era of the super center is reborn.
If Embiid stays healthy, we will look back on the era of GS and Cleveland the way we do the 1950-1956 in the NBA. There were great players in that era, but there were no super centers like Big Russ and Wilt.
mayjay said:
He won't need to rack up the points to that extent while playing with Simmons. Good Golly, that young man is everything they could have wanted!
Hey, when was the last time the 76ers were at .500 eight games into the season?
The point is he will be able to rack up 50-100 points WITH Simmons!
And he could do it WITHOUT Simmons.
Simmons would just make it soooo much easier.
Just kidding!
I can stay bullish on the Buckies, if you can.
And I can do this despite my Bums losing to the Stros. Woe are the Bums and their fans.
And despite Congressman Sensenbrenner reputedly "some how" miraculously having won the lottery three times!
(Note: see the unredacted version of this post under the politics section!!!!! All those that do not like politics, like @JayHawkFanToo, do NOT read the unredacted version of this post. ) :-)
Does Marcus Garrett pass, or fail, the eye test?
Thanks for posting this. This is utterly relevant to us. It proves .600 Cuonzo has something real happening in Colnumbia. He played Kansas AND Wisconsin close. It means KU may not be as half baked as it appeared versus Fizzourah. It means there is hope for us. It means the Badgers are pretty good again, too. It means basketball is alive and well, even in Colnumbia.
There is something about him that feels like Roy Hobbs from Africa.
I so hope it plays out like the movie and not the book.
He is the greatest physical talent at center I have seen since Jabbar.
If he can stay healthy, his career will unfold completely unlike any other big man's in the past. Sooooo fascinating. He may not reach his peak of development of fundamentals for another five years. Seriously, this guy could be hanging 50-100 points in games when he really learns how to do it day in and day out in the NBA, and fully develops his skills. Incredible.
He is coming a long at a perfect time. There are so few real centers in the NBA, and essentially no monster talents. It is rather like when Big Russ and Wilt came in. He could really take over.
Go, Joel, go!!!!
Now THAT is a great picture!!!!!
I want to pursue this with you, because you and I share a distrust of ingested, mind altering substances, like alcohol and pot, but, in contrast to me, you seem to be able to recognize behaviors from televised athletic performances that signal one player is enhanced, or unaffected by pot, while another is adversely affected, or likes it too much. I just don't see these distinctions on the floor on television. All I see is a guy that gained 40-60 pounds and played like he was totally unfamiliar with his body after the weight gain, somewhat reminiscent of Jeff Withey before they let him slim back down. THAT weight things seems apparent to me. But you see, and confidently, too, that pot explains the rapid decline in his abilities. When I consider Bragg and pot, my hypothetical assumption would be that he had been smoking it for years, and had played as well as other players reputedly have under its influence. I'm not doubting you here. I'm trying to learn what is the tell you are seeing. I'm getting older and it wouldn't surprise me that I miss this sort of thing. Just trying to figure out the tell.
FYI, I tried to use bold on the portions of your post below I responded to, and tried to fashion an arrow by my response.
HighEliteMajor said:
Right, I think Bragg is one of those folks that is highly dependent on weed.
-->Did he appear to you to suddenly grow dependent during that summer before his last season? Or did it appear to you that this was a pre-KU issue that Self recruited him with believing he could help Bragg resolve?
Some stories/rumors out there about his enjoyment of the substance.
-->Anything in particular other than reputed stories relating to off-court issues involving him and Josh Jackson?
Personally, I think pot is a scourge much like alcohol.
-->I agree about alcohol and would expect something similar with pot when legalized and accepted the way alcohol is, but I have not yet read any research confirming this expectation.
Thanks for weighting in and thanks in advance for any further insights you can share.
I forgot to tell you how much I like your personalized motto line. I try new ones every day and you flat out drove the green with yours in one try!!
Rock Chalk!!!
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JayHawkFanToo said:
As tempting as it is, I have purposefully avoided the political section (I bet most of us have) since I believe it has been a net negative to this forum and has created animosity between members that did not exist before. I prefer to just talk about KU sports, particularly basketball which is the primary reason many of us moved to this forum. Just my opinion and I don't expect others to agree with me.
You can always send private chat messages.
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Oh, are you not answering questions either?
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Since so many players reputedly smoke pot frequently , what does pot reliance look like compared with frequent pot usage? If you were going to use pot reliance as the dot connector, this point seems crucial. You appear to be implying that some persons play well on pot, while others, like Bragg, underperform. Is that what you mean? It seems like a tricky distinctionâalmost like the bromide that some can handle their liquor and drive under the influence, while others cannot.
JayHawkFanToo said:
HighEliteMajor said:
@mayjay What do they have in common?
Oh...I see what you are doing... :smile:
I donât.
What do they have in common?
Youâve described Selfâs approach to KU Basketball to a tee.
He appears to be playing it anyway they want that is within âthe right wayâ that Chancellors and ADs want.
They want the shoe money more than they want a ring, so he strings the bow and fiddle so he is the decisive factor in making the most out of less roster talent than what is required each season to win a ring.
Self appears part of the dynamic, but a good part. Itâs probably why he hasnât gone to the pros.
It used to be elite schools fired coaches for not recruiting enough players for a run at a ring.
But the shoe system has changed that. It allowed him to invert that, or maybe inverted it for him.
Now he is apparently retained and praised for not having enough players, and fighting through injuries, and yet doing so great with what their willingness to compromise for the shoe money allows him.
He appears the best college coach.
There seems slim chance Coach K, Cal, and Roy could do what Self has done at KU with an adidas contract.
The more KU leadership accepts shoe money and the apparent (maybe loosening?) embargo, the more indispensable Self becomes.
They need him to make âtheirâ apparent compromise feasible.
He just keeps banking $10M or so per.
He has apparently taken Jack Hartmanâs approach at KSU in the old days to another level.
Hartman reputedly got to where he only recruited one player a year. He reputedly quit recruiting most of the time. He could beat Ted with one good player and a bunch of glue. Neither he, nor anyone else could ever get enough blue chips in Manhattan to win a ring, so he didnât scheme to try.
Self appears to recognize he has near zero chance of winning another ring under the current shoe money regime the KU leadership compromises with for money.
So he appears not to be scheming and recruiting to win rings.
Duh.
He appears to be trying to win conference titles and over achieve to the Eight, when things break just right. Self doesnât cry about losing at the Eight, like Roy used to.
And Self has been highly successful.
The Chancellors and ADs appear to get the game.
Everyone is happy if Self keeps it up and the minor sports keep getting funded and the seats are full and alums keep donating, and political-corporate types get seats and construction contracts and throw their influences the right way on the right appropriations votes. Capice?
Winning enough without top talent isnât everything. Itâs the only thing! đ
We live in compromised times to put it mildly. Innocents appear to be being murdered intermittently to enable fear stimulus necessary for Deep State (or others) spin. Other times accident actors appear to be being used to leverage the effects and signal portions of compromised law enforcement and confuse uncompromised elements of law enforcement. President Carter says we are an oligarchy, not a republic. President Trump asks why his own AG is not appointing a special prosecutor to start an investigation that might even lead to investigating a special prosecutor. A Deep State apparently refuses to comply with election results. Mainstream media reputedly makes much of the news up to serve the Deep State. Universities use not for profit spin offs to make enough âsurplusâ to pay huge salaries and fund minor sports with petroshoeco contracts.
None of it appears Selfâs fault.
Self may even be the leper with the most fingers. He appears to be playing it anyway they want it within âright wayâ constraints and some guys even go to class and graduate. He appears to be sub-optimizing at a very high level given suboptimal constraints.
Self appears emblematic of the best Americans can hope for currently, at least until the hair trigger our military is reputedly on is accidentally triggered by a false reading, or an actual pre-emptive strike and changes things tragically.
He appears the best coach. He appears to try to suboptimize the âthe right way.â He tries to fix his mistakes. He wins titles, but not rings nowadays, without OAD-5 star 1s and 5s, or has. He has won a ring when he had nearly as much talent as anyone. He innovates. He smiles and appears to keep things in perspective. His hair works. He has apparently mellowed some with age. So far he has appeared to separate from most of his bad influences. He has helped a lot of persons.
Rock Chalk!
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mayjay said:
@Crimsonorblue22 It is one of those names that I think are unique in the memories they evoke of excellent performances, grit, and excitement. Anyone who names their kid Calvin who is a Jr. should be shot. We need no more Wilts, or Tigers, or Usains, for that matter.... @jaybate-1-0 would probably include Honus and Ty, too, since he saw them play--in wool, of course!
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I NEVER LIKED TY COBB, BECAUSE OF HIS RACISM and filing his cleats. But his batting average was awesome. And yes, I love the Tigers old uniforms. I have wondered how long his statue will last at New Tiger stadium. Probably as long as the lead in the pipes of Flintâs heavily African American neighborhoods right? Say! Hil and Trump havenât been back to Flint since the election! Iâve always wondered about Trumpâs DC Lawyer, Ty Cobb. How far we have come....or have we?
BShark said:
KU has 5 really good guards.
Yes, but I did not ask how many really good guards KU had.
Let me think.
Ah, yes.
I asked how many 5 stars?
It seems like UK, even after injury depletion, still has double the 5-Star guards, at least according to @mayjay.
Hmmm.
How many more 5-star guards did UK have before injury depletion? I havenât heard.
Does UK have any OAD 5-Star guards this season?
BShark said:
jaybate 1.0 said:
Omg!They are down to three 5-stars on the perimeter?
2 5 stars and a 4 star actually. Then walk-ons.
How many 5 stars does KU have at guard this season?
justanotherfan said:
Can we schedule them in football instead? We need the wins...
(all humor, no malice)
Now there is a thought!!!!
Omg!They are down to three 5-stars on the perimeter?
why ARENâT we scheduling Wichita State in Basketball?
â@jayballer54
Marsha refuses to wear burnt cork on his signboard forehead to hold down the glare, so our guys can see the rim!!!
Damn! Those look brand new. Was KU using hemp fiber back then?
@kjayhawks and @BShark
Good to know.
But I thought maybe Self had finally decided to require two working knees to start a season. Heâs been pretty lax about working knees, since Kaunâs Team won a ring, but that memory only lasts so long.
And remember, Sergeant Warden can't cover for you indefinitely at morning roll call. Sgt. Warden is having a fling with the Colonel's wife and sooner or later he's going to get testy and report you AWOL. We don't want to have to post to you in the Little Top in Leavenworth.
We don't want Private Robert E. Lee Pruitt blowing taps for you.
Remember what Pruitt said: "Just because a man loves a thing; that don't mean its got to love him back."
We don't want Fatso in the Stockade to poke you in the gut with his baton.
When these blithering idiots in Washington DC get us into a nuclear exchange with Putin, we don't want you running through the fallout from you girl with a heart of gold to get back to your keyboard and unit.
We need you hear now!!!! On the double!
Yours is clearly a popular suggestion.
Alas, I am old fashioned about baseball. Baseball is the last connection we have to the republic era of America. Even basketball was born in the John Dewey cultural re-engineering era of Globalization 1.0. Baseball is the only bench mark America has left to use to compare what we are with what we were.
Also, I am getting particularly cranky about change generally, because it is so obvious that our country is being calculatedly convulsed with the very same means used in the Middle East, and Europe and Latin America. They just have not ratcheted the juice up to where DHS gets to bring its new 2000 light tanks out to start restoring order. But you can see the writing on the wall. Antifa on the left and Neo Nazis on the right are our versions of ISIS, Al Qaeda, etc. They are fully subsidized by the Deep State and at any moment can be switched on to terrorist organizations that can be used to rationalize the DHS tank corp and nanobot swarms and the 5G wireless shizzle that can reputedly kill off the bacteria in our gut biomes and weaken us all to helplessness with a properly distributed series of antennas parked in street lamps.
Oh, but there I go again being jaybate 1.0. :-)
We're just talking about baseball, Ray.
Every rule change, except for those wiping out exclusion based on prejudices, that has ever been done to baseball has made it worse.
Look at the oldest footage you can find of baseball. It was a better game than it is now, except for allowing all categories of persons to play, if they've got the talent. It looked better in the old days. And the farther back you go, the better the uniforms looked. Wool should still be used. The old cleats actually look like baseball shoes instead of soccer shoes.The older gloves actually look like gloves instead of artificial limb augmentations. The baseball caps were perfect at the beginning. The old socks were better.
I'm not harkening back to my time. My youth was the beginning of the ruination of baseball. i'm talking about 1900-1910. That is no more my time than the man in the moon's. But that was always the best baseball played, at the best scale of crowds for the game, in the neatest stadiums. Fields were never meant to be perfect. I hate perfect fields. Baseball fields are supposed to look like fields beside factories surrounded by real bleachers. They aren't supposed to look like golf greens set inside "multi-use infrastructure." And Dugouts are not supposed to look like Mies Van Der Rohe designed them.
And I hate perfect seats. Baseball isn't even supposed to have seats. Its supposed to have bleachers and grand stands. I hate plastic, ergonomically correct seats.
I don't care what they do to basketball and football arenas and seats. All I care about is the game of basketball and I wish football would be banned. But Baseball? This is the last shred of culture America has left. Nothing else remains. Its all gone. All of it. Or what remains isn't worth noticing. Its so repugnant to look at and recall that you don't. Well, wait a minute. I drive by some old barns that still orient me. But if truth be known most of them don't go back farther than the 1920s, even the dilapidated ones.
I got to flea markets to be near drive ins. I hate flea markets. If the drive in screen has been removed, I wouldn't go near a drive in flea market. But if the screen is still up? I will drive up to an hour to just to see it. Seeing it at least is a bench mark between 1960 and now.
Whats the only remotely defensible reason for KU football? The lower facade of Memorial Stadium. That's all. Nothing else about KU football should be permitted to continue. But the lower facade of the Memorial Stadium is a bench mark between the 1920s and now.
They've disfigured all of the best football stadia in our country completely. the Big House in Ann Arbor? God how I love going to a game there. Best football stadium I have ever attended by a mile. But they completely destroyed its appearance with updating and with classroom structures affixed to it. Tragic.
The Rose Bowl still feels kind of good, especially at the flea market.
But how many times can a person with a brain go see a football game played by a team that hasn't been cool since Tommy Prothro and Gary Beban.
I've tried the LA Coliseum and I would frankly rather be sent to Gitmo. It was shit from the moment it was built and they've made it worse.
Please god, don't put a time clock on baseball. Baseball was adapted from a British game back when time was not of the essence in America, and had not been in England either.
If I were like you and watched a lot of baseball, I would want a clock.
But I only go to one game every year, or two, and really don't watch much on TV.
I go to a baseball game like a kind of pilgrammage into the American legacy.
I go to sit there and have hotdogs and sip as much beer as I still can without guzzling it. I go to recall my dad. I go to hear the crack of the ball on a wood bat. I go to hear the vendors. I dearly wish they would rip out all of the electronics and digitalia from modern parks and just have guys up hanging big black cards with white numbers out in the outfield to tell us what inning and score we are at after the fifth beer.
I have already committed to buy a boater for the first time in my life and I am going to wear it to the next baseball game I go to next year.
I also like to wear a Fedora to night games. I don't wear my Fedora anywhere else. Just to the baseball park.
But now I am ready for a Boater.
Rock Chalk!!
P.S.: And I never wear anything synthetic to a baseball game. It has to be cotton, or wool, or maybe hemp. Gotta be leather shoes, or Chucks. I would give a lot of money for a pair of Chucks with designer soles made from real rubber from a Michelin rubber plantation. Real rubber is soooooooo0 much better than vinyl, or petro rubber.
Its time to expand the criteria to include any KU player that gets an adidas shoe endorsement contract at anytime in his professional career north of $100M regardless of length of contract.
JayHawkFanToo said:
Sherron was consensus second team All American in his junior year and consensus first team All American in his senior year, the later qualifies him to have his jersey in the rafters. A little research would have cleared it up for you.
Well, why the heck would I want to do that, if I can get you to do it?
Howling!
I thought the whole point of connectivity was to share what we know!
That's sure how the Deep State feels about it 24/7.
But thanks just the same.
~Landscape the court with trees and tall grasses suitable for gorillas, and build a Dianne Fossey observation section on stilts with a mister for fans paying really big bucks.
~Same with a Dame Jane Goodall section, and have P-Burger State temporarily change its mascot to The Wild Chimpanzees. No mister.
~Each team plays with blindfolds for a different half.
~Hire little people as field house security. Arm them with hand grenades with happy faces on them. T-shirt slogan: "AFH Security--Dynamite Comes in Small Packages. Don't !@#$% with Us!"
~Promise Harvey Weinstein as a special guest in the field house as being there to give a lecture called "Predator Producing for Dummies" and issue cross bows with poison tipped arrows to every third woman that enters the field house.
~Promise to introduce Paul Manafort at half time and have him sit in a pie-throwing booth, but instead of throwing paper plates of lemon meringue, throw heavy pyrex dishes full of 400 degree beef stroganoff.
~Promise to introduce Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, John Podesta, Huma Abedin, Anthony Weiner, and Barrack Obama at half time and offer them cheese pizza loaded with hospital grade laxatives, while an honest Federal law enforcement official unconnected with the Deep State goes over the Wikileaks emails and Uranium One deal with them in detail, while they are connected to lie detectors that read out on the scoreboard in real time.
~Promise a tribute to Las Vegas in which all 500 plus reputed shooting victims from Las Vegas, the accident actors also reputedly observed at the concert, Mr. Campos (without a handler), and all the shooters reputedly found in the footage (and reported by eye witnesses), wear microphones and tell each of their versions of what in the hell really happened that night.
~Promise fans attending that Coach Self will appear at half time without any hair augmentation and let them swell with anticipation about whether he is bald or, not.
~Issue each fan attending a crimson and blue drone that they get to fly in the field house and try to deflect P-Burger State three point shots with.
~Promise fans that representatives of a new humanoid species--Zeeandertal--recently found under the Antarctic ice sheet in caves with Medittereanean micro climates--will attend the game and lecture on their cultural norms of topless representative government at half time.
~Promise to invite Adam Sandler to sit on a sofa at center court at half time next to a rape victim holding a logging-grade chainsaw and see if he puts his hand on her leg to try to get a laugh. Inform the rape victim that law enforcement has agreed that she will be within her constitutional rights of self-defense, if she cuts his hand off if he touches her.
~Promise fans they will reveal conclusive evidence of who ordered the assassination of JFK after the first TV timeout.
~Promise KU will not play Bad Ball!
(Note: All fiction. No malice.)
BShark said:
Fightsongwriter said:
Whitman killed us...flaked out and ran off Colby at the same time. DC would be played 17-20 min a game.
I prefer the alternative of no post depth to 20mpg out of Coleby.
Yes, but this is just BShark being BShark, right? :-)
:8ball:
Has anyone ever figured out why Self appeared to run Coleby?
I believe we are a good deal more vulnerable to an upset than MSU.
Having a great point guard like Devonte normally makes such an upset unlikely, but if Doke and Preston were to get fouled up, I don't think our guys have figured out how to rebound, even with them, and it could get very scary without the two bigs.
Fortunately, we are not playing Washburn this time. A really tough ball control and defensive team from DII could give this team fits this time of year.
I am glad for Sherron, but surprised. What criterion got his jersey up there?
He was a great Jayhawk and I want his jersey up there, but again what criterion got it hung?
When I hear these sorts of stories, I wonder if he would be better without pot, or worse?
This has always been the problem for me with drugs.
Even if they are doing something good they constitute an artificial baseline.
One can never know how much of one's behavior is attributable to an ingested substance, and how much not.
I was just watching Mike Judge's marvelous series of animentaries on music stars of the past. Tonight's installment was about Waylon Jennings. Like Judge, I realized Jennings was a very influential performer when I was back in college and plugging coins in the juke box at Louise's bar to play "I don't think Hank done it this a'way." But I always wondered what he would have been like without all the speed he took before he grew his hair and beard and played the outlaw role, and with probably even more junk and booze afterwards, too. He was just such a giant personality and talent that I have to think he would have been even better. But who knows? By the time he did clean up his health was so shot he was kind of a burned out husk.
Regarding Bragg, I just have a hunch this is not about pot at all.
A young man's ego is such a fragile thing and it has so many chinks in it that one is unaware of at that age. I basically checked out for six months or a year during college, after a young woman dumped me and left town. I didn't have to perform at a high level in a team sport. All I had to do was make grades. I was blessed with being able to make a 3.5-4.0 on cruise control with a hangover every morning. I just lowered the sheets about three quarters and limped along during the day, then drank myself silly at nights.I was just lucky I didn't have a car accident. But then one day it lifted. I looked around and it was like a light switched back on. I went harder than I had ever gone before. Took 24 hours one semester just to see if I could do and kept partying while I did. Met more wonder women in one year than I had my entire life. Made a lot of new friends and absolutely broke down the intellectual walls that had imprisoned me even before I had the broken heart.
I'm not saying Bragg had his heart broken. I'm just saying that the human heart and mind are very fragile at that age, despite being astonishingly robust after recovery.
I hope Carlton Bragg feels the light go back on pretty soon. It is a marvelous feeling when it does. I swore I would never let it go out again until the final act, when I was 19 years old. I never have. If the girl that ripped my heart out is what kept my light on the rest of my life, then I owe her, but I don't think it was her unnecessary cruelty that did it. I think I just had the light in their and it was waiting to go on. Whatever, I hope it goes on for Bragg. When it does it could take him away from the sacred wood forever. He could realize that the wood was never the right place for him in the first place. He could find something that makes him feel much more alive. Or he could realize that the wood is the place for him.
Whatever...keep putting one foot in front of the other, Carlton. No matter how much it hurts. In fact, the more it hurts the more alive you are inside; that was what I learned. Persons with a great fire inside hurt epically when they get hurt. But man do they come back!!!!!
Kaw is actually the correct Native American name for the river, is it not? I have always thought of it as equally proper. Same as Denali and Mount McKinley.
Gotta plead some ignorance here between the quote and the 1946-7 naval operation to explore feasibility of operations in Antarctica
Thankee kindly, Jethro.
PHOF
Dodgers all the way.
I'm a Royals fan from childhood.
And as an adult went to a slug of Bums games.
Love the Bums.
Wearing a Dodger cap as I type.
@HawkChamp and @BShark
Its really just Self being Self.
He has long tended to try to identify who we are and then continually strive to play that way, as much as possible, so as to get better and better at playing as "who we are."
He IS a traditional coach. And he DOES believe that practice makes perfect. And if his teams are constantly shifting between playing inside out and outside in, he tries to find a way to juggle the roster so that they can play one way or the other.
Of course he can do both. Someone said he had already said he thought they would play 4-1 about 50% of the time, which is his short hand for we are also going to play 3-2 50% of the time, which in turn implies he is going to try scheming this team two play both sets, and each about half the time.
But we recall that Self OFTEN shifts gears about the scheme, once or twice during pre conference season.
Self is signaling to opposing coaches the 50/50 scenario to opposing coaches to make them have to prep for both, until he decides if it will work, or if he will be committing to one way, or another.
I'm pretty confident Self will not be able to string this bow 50/50 between the two schemes. Why? Because neither Doke, nor Preston appear to be strong natural rebounders and, at the same time, he does not have a Josh Jackson this season that can get an adequate share of boards at the 4 playing short in a 4-1. So: he is going to be flying by the seat of his pants trying to figure out how to play the game so that his team can get enough of the caroms to be competitive on the two thirds of the games when they are either shooting middling, or poorly.
Its more complicated that just throwing his two best bigs out there on the floor at the same time.
The chances that Doke and Preston are going to be able to play more than 20 minutes a piece on any given night are iffy, given Preston's youth and Doke's historical tendency to foul. If Self commits to Doke and Preston as 30 minute men, then he is going to have to have them sag way off their men to keep them from fouling.
To avoid having to play them 30 sag-off minutes, playing them each 20 minutes in a rotation at full intensity seems much more effective to me; that way the team is not wasting a lot of development time on learning to play both ways, and not having to play most of the games with its best players playing at 2/3s intensity to avoid fouls.
Itâs a big choice.
1.) Start both bigs, lose one for a few games, or season, and have to re-scheme completely from 3-2 to 4-1.
2.) Start 1 and rotate the other and if he loses one just keep with the scheme and bring Lightfoot in for 5-10 per game to be a place holder for breathers.
It really comes down to whether Doke and Preston are good enough rebounders on their own (without the other on the floor) to be able to play 4-1 with them rotating. If so, itâs the smart play. But each of their reboundomg really sucked against Fizzou. So itâs not looking likely.
So Self has to play them both at the same time just to not suck on the glass.
At that point KU is easy to beat. Sick the Blue Meanies on Prestonâs long twigs, get him out and KU is toast.
My hunch is Self will try to stay small through precon to teach his rotation smalls at 4 out to rebound. Good luck. Svi seems the only candidate. Unless Cunliffe re-materializes. And Svi is likely to struggle in Joshâs role from last season.
And can anyone envision Doke grabbing 10-15 rpgs right now, after the showing at Fizzou? đ¤
With so short a bench, the season depends precariously on Svi.
Even if everyone else comes through like gangbusters, without Svi fulfilling his Poe, this team is 1 injury to either Doke, or Preston, from .500.