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@BShark

Exactly. Those blaming Self, or blaming KU players performances, are just venting and using them as excuses.

Emotional, unscientific minds and those with agendas resist reasoned forensic analysis with a passion, unless it confirms their biases; that's why I sometimes wait a day or two to clarify and respond.

I made a living for a lot of years marshaling logic and riding facts and weeding out incompetent adversarial use of fact and occasional intentional misrepresentation with facts.

It's kind of fun, because working with logic and facts and probabilities is sooooooo much easier than polishing turds.

Everytime you do it, you get better and it gets clearer. And since I am never wed to any hypothesis, I am always refining any time new evidence or logic manifests!

Yeeeeeeeee hawwwwww! Another great season survived and savored!!!

The older I get the sweeter each one is!

Polishing truth gets brighter

KU could even sell the offense to adidas and the defense to Nike!

Maybe we could even sell the backups to Under Armor!

@kjayhawks

That was the hope before the season.

Man would a 5 that could knock down 17 footer have pulled Bell away from the iron!

@kjayhawks

That was really weird that Bragg did not play a minute vs Oregon. Anyone have a clue what was going on there?

What the hay!!Front

Phil Knight and Company appear comfortable with ambiguity. Nike's greatest competitor is its own AirJordan line.

How about we divide KU BASKETBALL up into back court and front court endorsements.

CONTRACT SEPARATELY.

Front court stays adidas for the adidas OADs and 5 stars.

Back court goes to Nike and that solve our recruiting problems there.

Two brands of memorabilia for KUAD to sell.

WE HAVE UH WINNAH!

@tis4tim

An excellent point!

I have tried to lay off complaining about the refs, because it seems increasingly apparent it's been "problematic" the last few years.

But your point DEFINITELY deserves mentioning.

Thanks.

The best thing that could happen to restore the appearance of the Carney would be for for USC and the Zags to make the Finals, and for no officials be used in the Finals.

@FarNrthJHwk

I hope so too. But I've given up guessing who has the gift for coaching at a young age. Only a few like Larry Brown seem to have that uncanny insight. But among those I have seen lately, I sure wish it for Frank. He could help a lot of kids.

@BShark

Been through this before. Each of those supposed "exceptions" had the baggage coming in that they showed when they got here. It was just concealed from fans. Self would never have gotten them without the baggage. So they really weren't exceptions at all. Self can get "those" kinds of 5 stars and OADs. What he can't sign are the OADs and 5-stars at 1 and 5 without the baggage that can come in and start and play the way Josh has. Good lord, Coach K and Roy and Cal sign them every season.

You have to stop living in denial about the recruiting regime in D1. It is what it is. KU needs to find a way to get around this impasse, not live with it and blame Self.

@FarNrthJHwk

I wouldn't trade Frank, or Devonte for any true D1 Major 5 star types. I loved their games.

But they needed one mor backup than just Vick and they needed a 5 star 5, whatever type of 5 star five plays 5 now.

Frank is a once in a generation come from no where to stardom guy. He is special. He is everything college ball is about.

I will never forget his great shooting, his D, his unreal rebounding, and that photo of him "facing up" that big lug.

Frank is the Ernie Banks of KU Basketball and if you know of Ernie you know that is the highest praise!!!!

Frank, Josh and Devonte played fabulously well this season, but not even Josh held MUA on his off night.

To win rings, sooner or later you have to win one on your worst night.

That is when your level of physical talent and depth have to carry you.

KU didn't have enough.

@FarNrthJHwk

Exactly. KU was was not even as talented as these teams. All these teams have inside games AND more depth than KU.

My guess is that as recruits, Frank, Devonte, and Landon were ranked significantly lower than their counterparts on the four Final Four teams.

But even if they weren't, KU WASNT DECISIVELY MORE TALENTED THAN ANY FINAL FOUR TEAM, AND IT MOST LIKELY WAS SHARPLY WEAKER AT POST AND IN BENCH THAN THE OTHER FF TEAMS

@BShark

Who would you rather have had?

Jordan Bell or Landen?

Jordan Bell or Bragg?

Jordan Bell or Coleby?

Those were the choices.

I'm saying the recruiting is so asymmetric at KU that Self cannot EVEN sign and develop a Jordan Bell, much less a 5-star, or an OAD 5.

Here is the blunt truth about KU recruiting.

In terms of recruited talent, we started a high mid major roster supplemented with an OAD, a troubled 5-star shooting guard backup (Vick) and a foreign project (two if you add Doke.).

This KU team is frankly a hybrid of a good mid major with an OAD.

Except for Josh and Vick, you are looking at a mid major not unlike Self's best Tulsa team that made it to an EE.

Compare the rosters of the FF teams with this KU team, and outside Josh, who on KU would for sure be starting for UNC, Oregon, USC and Gonzaga.

Frank and Devonte have played superbly and exceeded everyone's expectations, but...

Dorsey and Brooks looked more like top D1 major guard bodies and NBA prospects to me than Frank and Devonte. And head to head they played like it. And as great of shooters as Frank and Devonte have been, they have never shown the kind of range Dorsey shows most games.

And which of those four teams has less depth and less inside game than KU?

Self did an awesome coaching job this season and post season.

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Bill Self sucked last night. • Mar 27, 2017 12:44 PM

@mayjay

Absolutely. Self would just have a better chance because he's already kicking ass with less.

Good lord, he's won a ring, finished second, been to a bunch of EEs, won 13 straight conference titles and won a higher percentage of his games without a single flipping OAD and/or 5-star 1 or 5 (arguably the most crucial positions in D1 hoops).

Of course, he would have won waaaaaaaay more rings with equivalent talent to Coach K, Cal and Roy.

This seems like debating over the mastered obvious.

This is why the issue is 1 and 5 recruiting constraints with or without Bill Self, who won't stay forever, regardless.

It's a given that money-power interests prey on successful basketball programs and athletic departments and seek to destabilize and overthrow them, to capture the money and influence to be had. All the top programs go through it. It has appeared for several years Self and KUAD have been targeted for regime change.

We can't stop the intriguing.

Self's reputed $10M per year, and KUADs revenues, and the back door influence of KUAD on KU, the regents and state political economy, are too great of temptations not to expect predation.

But we can stay focused on the recruiting constraints that will limit whichever coach and regime are in control.
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Bill Self sucked last night. • Mar 27, 2017 12:30 PM

@Texas-Hawk-10

Again the key is what KU is not getting at the 1 and 5; that is what determines its lower limits of performance on an off night.

Add the OAD/5-star olayer at 1 and 5 positions and all those EE losses by KU teams on off games would have become wins.

I just don't see any credible dispute to this.

Cal isn't a very good coach, but give him 6 OADS WHEN OTHERS HAVE NONE, and he can win a ring.

Large edges in talent make up for off nights even for so-so coaches like Cal, so they should do even more for Self.

I'm not arguing Self is perfect. I'm saying give him the same levels of talent as Coach K, Cal and Roy and he runs circles around them and all the EE exits that they have even with the excess talent, Self would logically turn into FFs and rings.

Under a Petroshoeco-agent complex hypothesis, UNC and Oregon ought to play and UNC might WIN NOW.

MJ presented UNC the shoe deal that apparently ended EASYGATE and all the predation on Roy and UNCAD once and for all.

Nike has apparently capitulated to its own AirJordan subbrand's huge market force and potential for dividing THE EMPIRE.

Cooler heads APPEAR TO HAVE prevailed.

UNC should be UH WINNAH!!!!!

But intriguing within oligarchy is always a possibility too--not just screwing the nonoligarchy opponents happens--witness Current USA politics.

An Oregon vs UNC would seem the crowning achievement of apparent petroshoeco-agency complex hegemony.

But I really think Gonzaga has a powerhouse.

And with a symmetric whistle, Gonzaga would probably win it all now.

I also think Frankie's 'Cocks are deserving of rings, no kinky pun intended, and a USC-Zaga might feature the best two teams in a whistle symmetric, non Carney universe, but...

But whistle symmetry appears a rarity in big games in the apparent March Carney involving Blue Bloods and nons.

Anyone for AirJordan Rules deciding the outcome?

Or Phil's Ducks?

Hurry, hurry, step right up, we have UH WINNAH!!!!!!!

Eithah way!!!

Cue "One Tarnished Moment"?

(Note: all opining and speculation based on a hypothesis from appearances by a layman fan alias from a remote and virtual perspective lacking any insider or professional knowledge. Who knows how it all really works?)

Calipari Second Title Incoming • Mar 27, 2017 11:36 AM

@jayballer54

I came to the same conclusion three years ago when I compared Self and Coach K's and Cal's early exit records and totals. Thanks for broadening and lengthening the data search!

Rock Chalk!

Bill Self sucked last night. • Mar 27, 2017 10:59 AM

@Texas-Hawk-10

So: you appear to be asserting that Self is a brilliant coach at getting to the EE, becomes nonlinearly stupid for the EE, then becomes nonlinearly brilliant again beyond the EE, having won one ring and almost won a second without a McDs the second time. I'm afraid this taxes probability beyond the breaking point.

The issue is not Self winning one ring. He has done THAT, unlike all but UNC and Nova that you mention.

The issue is not always the apparently sometimes asymmetric recruiting to the programs that defeat KU.

The issue is the apparently asymmetric recruiting that for some reason consistently denies KU the OAD and/or 5 star talent at the 1 and 5 that are apparently needed to win GREATER THAN one ring the last 13 seasons.

I can't think of a single non Nike program that has has had zero OAD/5-star 1 and 5 position players that have won more than 1 ring.

Name me one non Nike program that has won two or more rings without OAD and/or 5-star talent at the 1 and 5 and I will modify my hypothesis ASAP.

From the tip, they were a step slow, likely because of that 90 point game and emotional high. Oregon only had a 69 point game.

This appeared to feed into them struggling with trying to recognize defenses.

They were long overdue for a lousy shooting game. It finally occurred.

When they are cold, they are apparently taught to play drive ball. But you can rarely drive successfully, when you can only rarely ID the driving lanes, as changing D masks them. .

Also, Self perhaps asked too much of Landen. He asked him to score and foul up Jordan Bell. He was perhaps not up to the challenge.

I admire and respect Landen, but every player has limits and can run into mismatches at times. He guarded Bell well. But he could not keep him off the glass, or from scoring, and exploding out of position on defense.

Bill Self sucked last night. • Mar 27, 2017 05:02 AM

P.S.: I do think it's time for Bill to institute switching defenses (m2m to zones an back frequently) to hinder recognition.

Bill Self sucked last night. • Mar 27, 2017 04:59 AM

@Texas-Hawk-10

You did a service showing those EE scores.

Now, which is more likely?

a.) Bill Self has a mental block, puckers up and forgets how to coach players and ride referees in the Elite Eight;

Orrrrrrrrrrrr

b.) at the Elite Eight Bill Self tends to start running into Nike teams with all the pieces he has, plus the OAD/5-star 1s and 5s that won't come to KU?

I vote for B.

@Eric-san

While Udoka might have sufficed, he was a project 5, even though he was clearly good enough to complement Landen. Yes we would likely have gotten by Oregon with him. But in the Final Four you need more than Landen and a project footer.

KU needed (and needs) a legitimate OAD/5-star 5 that was (is) NOT a project. KU NEEDS what Duke, U.K., UNC and now Oregon appear able to sign. A 5 that can play now.

Next season, Udoka could be that player, but even without injury he was a project this season.

Billy Preston looks like a 4, but if he can play 5, maybe the worm has turned!

Brand Ball beat College Ball.

Again.

Though they played more of a finesse game, there were many similarities between the 2017 Jayhawks and the 2012 team. Both had extraordinary human beings with considerable talent for the kind of game Self schemed for them. Both fit elegantly together and played greater than the sums of their parts.

But in the end both succumbed to the Nike brands ability to deliver more good players after leaving on the floor the first game of a 2 in 3 day set of March Carney games.

KU shot poorly--25% from trinity--and lost to a fine Phil Knight, er, Oregon Duck team with a coach with a career .656 record that had failed at K-State, that coached 16 seasons at Creighton, that had never won a ring, yet who could "somehow" recruit OAD/5-star point guards and centers, plus depth, to a PNW school that has not been to a Final Four in 68 years, and which was assigned to the Midwest Regional--the only regional with a one seed with no depth, no OAD/5-star/4-star 5 and which had been pre-tenderized by two B1G Bang Ball teams strung consecutively in its previous path.

That about sums it up, doen't it?

KU was softened up with two Big Ten bang ballers--one the conference champion-- and then brand rolled by a rent-a-team, as Bo Ryan might have called them.

Note: thank heavens Bill Self was more diplomatic after being brand-rolled than Bo Ryan was against Duke a couple years back. Ryan shortly resigned and surprise, surprise, had an affair exposed. Sometimes basketball foreshadows national politics.

Promoters of the March Carney and the Supreme Shoe Commander's reputed D1 Top 100 recruiting hegemony served up a gob of SHOEWARS-style, entertainment-value-driven basketball.

Apparently lackey broadcasters, like Clark Kellogg, bungling the obviousness of it all just added insult to injury. The apparently better team did NOT win, Clark. The better "team" had a bad shooting night and likely would have won on a good shooting night. But the better "team" wasn't able to overcome the lesser "team" loaded up with more talent and shooting lights out from as much as 32 feet out. Dorsey and Brooks put on quite a show. They were the best guard combo I have seen this season--everything Frank and Devonte were, only bigger and stronger and faster and with greater shooting range--NBA range. Oregon was so deep it could smother all three of our exceptional perimeter players AND use Jordan Bell to dominate us inside AND bring subs outside and inside. When our starters coming off a 90 point game with only Vick outside for a credible sub, and no credible subs inside had to conserve till the final 10 minutes, while shooting 35% overall, Nike-Oregon's numbers and talent proved decisive.

So apparent Nike talent, a KU shooting slump, and prior Carney seeding PATHWAYS OF KU AND Oregon, apparently proved decisive yet again. And what KU fan can help but wonder that if KU had shot normally that the hoary head of Carney whistle asymmetry would have shown its shameless, ugly face again, as it apparently did in Bo Ryan's last Wisconsin game against Duke?

Now all of the above refers to the apparent context of the KU-Oregon game that I suspect a head coach of KU might likely have foreseen in a way that I did not, because I had not closely studied Oregon before either the Purdue game or before the Oregon game. I had decided to just enjoy the ride this season, or my usual analyses might have foreseen what some layman post game analysis suggests might (and I emphasize might) have been Self's plan.

To wit...

Before the Purdue game Self apparently had to decide which team to amp for, i.e., which game to risk a high possession game--KUs best approach to beating these two teams with good inside and outside games--a balance KU LACKS.

An amped effort against Purdue with a surprise defense probably promised a decent chance of victory. KU was quicker than Purdue and could defend them. Alas it left a slim chance against Oregon the following game.

The same kind of effort would have promised a slimmer chance of victory against Oregon, because none of KUs starters or back ups in the paint could contain Oregon's Bell.

Alas, a no amp, no surprise game against Purdue would have risked disaster and Oregon was the likely second opponent.

So Self appeared to wait to see if KU could shorten the Purdue game, but Purdue jumped out ahead, so Self appeared to put the spurs to his team for a maximum effort and got the third straight great shooting performance that, coupled with a surprise defense, triggered a huge victory that, alas, left little gas in the tank for Oregon, even resting starters as much as he could.

So: Self was faced with a huge risk for Oregon. A bad outside shooting game from shooting back to average was a high probability. But Oregon had great size and shooting on the perimeter and would take a super defensive effort by our perimeter to keep them from blowing us out. Such an effort would mean they could not be counted on totally even for driving for scores. Further, since KU's starter and backup bigs would likely not be able to stay on the floor with Jordan Bell, unless he were fouled up, it apparently followed that Self would have to attack Bell with Lucas and Josh and hope to foul-up Bell. Then when Bell were fouled up, KU could use its backup bigs, shorten the game, stay close, and go in maximum attack for the last 10 minutes. Hardly an unprecedented plan.

In turn, Self gambled on senior Lucas rising above his limits and playing through Landen to try to foul up Bell with Josh also driving on him.

But Josh got a foul early and was too intense, so Self sat him to settle him down and began feeding into Lucas. Alas Lucas could neither draw fouls nor make shots and KU was forced to fall behind. Then three things happened, while KU tried to shorten the game. Lucas got DEMORALIZED and AND Graham got cut off from the flow of play, while JJ could not make shots. KU was on the ropes and only a furious last 15 might even get them back in it.

KU began to go to Graham to force him into the action the second half, but he could hit nothing, nor did he drive effectively. It was the spookiest total flameout by a KU Starter this season, since it appeared Graham had the one KU MUA on the floor, when he tried to score. Graham went o fer for the second half and game. Thus Lucas' first half failure to score and foul up Bell, plus Graham's second half flame out, combined with Josh struggling and Frank going only 8-20 to put us in the rock and hard place down the stretch.

Once Oregon took a break from draining 32 footers, a Herculean KU defensive effort at the game's butt end saw KU have nearly 6 straight failed scoring opps on stops that would have driven the game into possibly winnable single digits. But the KU rim kept shrinking till it was like KU was shooting ping pong balls into surgical tubing.

Wasn't. Going. To. Happen.

The only lingering doubt, when a team shoots 35% FG and 25% from Trey and one of its finest shooting guards of the Self era-- Graham--goes O fer, and the Lucas experiment failed, was: should KU have played through Josh from start to finish even though he was clearly not in the top third of his normal distribution. Frank needed his 20 to get 8 makes. But Landen's and Graham's FGAs might in retrospect have been better used. But that's hindisight. Still, if you're strangling taking what they give you, maybe start strangling with your best larynx and see if raw athleticism can find a way?

I have gone on at length here NOT to pick nits with Self, but to show the extent to which even a great shooting team, which sooner or later, has a cold night, cannot realistically be expected to overcome the apparent Nike recruiting asymmetry, and Carney seeding path asymmetries.

The only likely takeaway for Self from the Oregon game for next season may be Self embracing Dana Altman's switching defenses. The switching defenses largely took away KU perimeter player's usually stellar ability to quickly recognize driving alleys and penetrate effectively. I have long been a proponent of this benefit of switching defenses. It slows team's seeking high trips and quick strikes. It creates misreads and stops. It sewed doubt even among KU's experienced players. And when Oregon switched during possessions KU completely broke down.

All in all a great, great season by a highly ranked team that won 31 games, a thirteenth title, a one seed, and reached the Elite Eight, while playing some of the sweetest team basketball I have ever seen, producing KU's most admirable OAD ever--Josh Jackson, and yielding a truly deserving national POY in Mr. Frank Mason III. Every rotation player on the team was decisive in his contributions to wins at one point or other. Every player got better and several reached exhalted heights of performance that will live in memories of all who hung in with this remarkable TEAM.

KU continues to fight onward despite unlevel playing fields in recruiting and seeding with the greatest coach in the game. Every Elite Eight he has come up short in, he would almost certainly have reached the Final Four with one OAD/five star at either the 1 or 5 positions. With two such players, one each at the 1 and 5, he would have won rings.

Give this 2017 team just one such player at the 5, and with Landen sharing the 5, this team would have been unstoppable.

The mission objective is clear. Solve the recruiting constraint ASAP. The coach is NOT the problem. Shoe brand is.

LONG RANGE, we have to solve the seeding asymmetry by either joining a power conference with an EST PRESENCE, or we have to expand the B12 eastward.

No ifs, ands, or buts.

Rock Chalk!

(Note: this post was all opining and speculation based on appearances from the remote and virtual perspective of a fan alias and without insider knowlege or professional expertise.)

@Eric-san

Bold prediction would make Akira Kurasawa proud!!!!

@wissox

Old as hell and proud of it. Love no longer being driven by the reproductive demons every spring.

Harter was a defensive Basketball guru that came out of the Penn line of great coaches (Chuck Daly, etc.). Harter pioneered swarming, physical bad boy defense. Took it to Oregon in the 1970s and turned Ernie Kent and mates into human buzz saws in treads. Hater left, coached Penn State 5 years, thenassisted hor HCed 6-8 NBA teams in the 1980s., Ernie came back and coached Oregon

@wissox

He was Ernie's coach on the Kamikaze Kids Oregon team!!!!!!

Danged Wikipedia has eliminated the list of coaches at schools, so I'm relying on increasingly weak memory on stuff!

@wissox

And for Ernie Kent!

And Phil Knight!

And Dick Harter!!!

@DoubleDD

Never!to early!

We could even start two.

One Oregon and one for the semifinals!

Let's post two! For Ernie Banks!

@DoubleDD

Thanks for the assist!!!

@wissox Fox's apparent trip seems to have precipitated a misdirection headline . Hat is off to ya. Just kidding.

What about Fox's apparent trip of Alford?

Does this get Fox into that Duke tripper's league? I know, it's only an apparent start, but it's a heckuva strong apparent start, right?

This appeared to occur AFTER the play, OUT OF BOUNDS!!!!

The appearance of UK's Fox waiting for his leg to be attacked by the back of Steve Alford's irresponsible foot kind of startled me. Alford and Perry Ellis now appear to be in one of the counter intuitive halls of fame ever.

@wissox

What a good thing to succumb to!!! Colors!

Crimson and blue.

Free of color revolution!

@nuleafjhawk said:

UCLA, Kentucky, North Carolina, Gonzaga and Oregon did NOT win the National Championship this year

Definitive characterization of the way propaganda in sports media works.

Insidious.

PHOF!

Self's Multiple High-Low: Go, Bill, Go • Mar 25, 2017 07:03 PM

On another thread I mentioned that Self had innovated the high-low offense again this season.

Hell! Self has thrown away more offensive innovations than most other coaches develop.

Recall the 45-degree chop and weave he worked on for a month in November and junked, saying it just wasn't working enough better to use.

Most coaches dream of coming up with something that insightful and Self just shrugs and says it was working quite good enough. Sheeesh!

Still, who wants to bet that that crazy, brilliant, cock-eyed, 45 degree angular chop and weave innovation does not become a "hat rabbit" some time shortly offering the same level of surprise offensively that the "Purdue Lane-Jumping" bunny did for defense? Its not a sure thing that Self will pull out what I was all set to label the Colt 45 Chop'n'Weave, but it is possible.

Oh, and recall he ran the Colt 45 weave out of the high low formations of 3-2 and 4-1.

This is what is so amazing about Bill and his High Low.

Bill has figured out a way to run EVERYTHING out of the High Low: 1-3-1, 3-2, 4-1, 5-0, its all flipping High Low. Its all flipping Dean and Larry Carolina
Passing Offense.

But here IS the difference this season. Self is no longer just rotating the 5 and the 4; THAT IS the unfair advantage he has given this team.

Most of the other coaches haven't even got a clue he is doing it, and those that do have a clue, haven't figured out how to defend it when Self is rotating Josh.

It is such a simple, elegant, BEAUTIFUL insight Self has had.

If Henry was right and you could rotate the big men with each other and create "situations", well than why not rotate one big man with a wing?

The light bulb had to be blinding, when it went off!

Like one of the 800 lumen Nitecore light sabres the special forces guys like to carry, blind, and crack the skull with, before they whip out their easy open Emerson and sever the crucial artery or vein, that's nearest and handiest.

Its easy to dream about having a guy like Josh pop up everywhere, to play all the positions. But how to actually do it within the confines of an offensive system that actually keeps optimizing the larger team work; aye, there's the rub, Captain Kirk.

To the amateurs and hard bound professionals the High Low was the problem.

Gotta get outta the old, moribund high low, and let the kids play AAU ball in the Dribble Drive.

Gotta get into a Princeton and time everything perfectly.

Gotta go back to Wooden's single high post.

Gotta run isolations like the NBA.

Gotta. Gotta. Gotta.

But Self is that particular kind of genius that can find the solution in the supposed problem itself; thus no loss of baby with bathwater tossing.

Henry invented the High Low to be easy and quick to learn, and protean in its possibilities; this Dean and Larry grasped almost instantly, and Dean pointed the way with his book Multiple Offenses, but even Dean didn't quite get that there was something deeper to the high low that just glomming on this or that "action" from the Oklahoma Shuffle, or something Phog did.

Henry's high-low was Oklahoma Tumbleweed Buddhism. It was the Glass Bead game. It was just waiting for a Magister Ludi. I recognized Self was likely that guy even before he won the ring. But I mistook his incredible insight that you don't try to set tempo for essence of the Glass Bead Game--the essence of Tumbleweed Buddhism's both-ness.

WRONG!

The high low is not IT either.

But the High Low is a crucial piece of it just as not setting tempo unless they don't want to set tempos is, and just as "both-ness" is.

Iba Ball that Bill Ludi has brought to its greatest completeness so far is like a flipping mobile. It is a bunch of pieces suspended around an axis of countervailing forces. Iba ball is about holding and operating from the intangible, but ever so real center of the glass bead game of basketball.

It is about everything in counterbalance.

This team is like a mobile in some regards.

Push on this piece, and the other pieces respond and reconcile and redistribute the forces among them.

Some of the pieces are counter balanced in pairs. Some of the pieces are counterbalanced in threes. Certain pieces are parts of both of those 2 and 3 piece systems. No longer do just two bigs rotate with each other. Now bigs rotate with wings. And wings rotate with point guards, And bigs rotate in ball screens with point guards that end in point guards like Frank grabbing rebounds against footers.

It has been an awesome thing to watch and only partially understand.

Self's brain has been working overtime in that creative place he goes from time to time and way more often than most.

This season, Self is not even trying to explain what they are doing anymore.

He's way up there on the mountain top right now.

The game is requiring all of his focus.

At times, even his assistants don't appear to fully grasp what's going on in games.

I suspect this is a little like seeing something black in the sky at night over Edwards AFB in 1964. We aren't going to know what we saw was an SR-71 Black Bird for awhile afterwards.

Go, Bill, go!!!!!

@drgnslayr said:

we are averaging over 95 points a game and have outplayed every team in the tourney by a long shot… but we are still buried at the bottom of the sports page.

Glad you called attention to this apparent media asymmetry.

On one level, I am of course hopeful things are on the up and up and further hopeful the under the radar effect helps KU to a ring.

But, whether random, or intentional, the media image of KU being consistently portrayed at the bottom of the page, so to speak, could conceivably set up some sharply inaccurate bettor expectations and so some potentially very lucrative sheep fleecing scenarios in gambling from here on out, every time KU comes up against a a hyper-hyped team, mightn't it?

And watching the beginnings of a potential pattern emerge of KU playing EST teams very close for 3/4s of games and then blowing them out down the stretch (sharply divergent with point spread expectations), ostensibly AFTER most of the bets have been layed and offset, makes this old reader who has read books about gambling scandals, cock an eye brow.

But eyebrows cock many times and nothing is ever found afoul.

So: I'm just going to enjoy the ride until more observable things arise.

I could hardly believe my old eyes, so I'm checking to see who else saw the apparent "dick move" mentioned in the title.

UK's Fox just apparently outdid the Duke Tripper and didn't even get called for it!

Talk about acute whistle asymmetry!!!

THIS SORT OF APPARENT "DICK MOVE" HAS TO QUIT!

Or else KU needs to start practicing Fox's apparent dick move in case KU has to play them.

Recall: UK fast break. Fox and Alford got tangled up near the basket. Fox went down--kind of appeared to flop to get some whistle, but who knows. Wound up sitting up at the waist on the floor with legs together. Alford stayed on his feet, but was taking a step or two backwards to balance himself. Fox suddenly splayed one leg awkwardly outward behind Alford, Regardless of actual motivation, it was perfectly timed for Alford who's back was to Fox. Alford didn't see it coming. Classic apparent "dick move" by Fox.

ALERT TO KU PLAYERS: BASED ON TELEVISED APPEARANCES, DO NOT TURN YOUR BACKS ON FOX FOR A SECOND EVEN AFTER THE WHISTLE.

APPARENT TRIPPER ALERT!!!!!!!!!

Watch out. OMG!

This also is not a a prediction.

It is a fact.

It came directly from the future in a long wave energy redistribution over time experiment.

Other discoveries include:

North Korea will NOT be attacked kinetically, but rather cybernetically and no one will ever know if it really happened or not, because there will be no apparent effects from the attack and no apparent changes in the equilibrium strategies of all countries involved will ensue.

Trump Tower will be discovered to be a giant Tesla Transmitter erected based on blue prints found by a relative of President Trump who participated as a law enforcement official in the war time (WWII for whippers) confiscation of all Tesla papers found in his flat after his death.

The season one Super Car feeds available on You Tube starring string puppets Mike Mercury, Horatio Beeker and Professor Popkins operating out of Black Rock, Nevada, will be found to have decisively influenced earth artist Michael Heiser into his 30-year effort at creating the largest earth art work in the world a stone's throw from the reputed Area 51. In turn it will be learned that artist Heiser himself has lodged a fascimilie of the original flying car--Super Car--in one of the Complex City's many geometric and so pessimistically abstract concrete and earth structures. Further, it will be revealed that Complex City is in fact a realization of an alien blue print found at the Roswell crash site.

Once Complex City is open for visitors in three years, it will be discovered that the double decker hamburger was actually brought to earth by aliens and the blue prints for it were found in the Roswell crash, too.

It will also be learned that the combines space agencies of the world--the consortium engaged in a super secret interplanetary space program for the last two decades--will be used to launch a fake mission to Mars to be filmed on Devon Island. It will be loosely based on the recent Matt Damon hit about an astronaut stranded on Mars and will be used to keep the public distracted from the Deep State's "secret space program." The famed black not for profit 501.c3 "Dark Donations" is seeking blood money donations from narco cartels and public and private intelligence organizations to fund the fake Mars mission.

All these things will be learned because, I, jaybate 1.0, took self-realization seriously, and entered the DIY phase of my life with vigor and the will to build my own private, backyard Tesla Tower. Neighbors have been a little angry about view shed impacts, as the tower stands 160 stories high over a subdivision of ranch houses, but most neighbors understand that in the post truth era, DIY is the new path to happiness and inner peace.

(Note: all fiction. No malice.)

a.) Frank hasn't gotten a quintuple double yet;

b.) Devonte hasn't gone 10 for 10 from three yet;

c.) Josh has not gone off for 50 yet;

d.) Svi has not gone Mad Ukrainian yet and driven the iron for 30 yet;

e.) Landen has not double doubled 20/20 yet and hulked out and twisted the opoosing rim into a figure 8 to stop the other team from making any shots at all;

f.) Vick has not gone for 30 and a 720 dunk yet;

g.) Bragg has not yet said I am done trying to make five treys and am instead going break five femurs dunking on opponents on the way to 15/10;;

h.) Coleby has not discovered he can run and jump as good as new and become both a defensive Terminator shouting "Screw coming back, I AM back!! And become Self's Secret secondary break weapon;

i.) Lightfoot has not yet hit the TRANSFORMER switch on the front of his chest and hulked in Optimus Prime for 20 in their faces.

j.) the rest of the team has not yet fully dialed into MK-Ultra telekinetic mind control mode breaking the will of opponents from the sidelines.

We are just scraping the surface here.

Law of averages? We don't need no stinking law of averages!

Oregon Matchups • Mar 25, 2017 12:18 PM

@JayHawkFanToo

If they played the games at Sky Harbor, it would be home games for everyone. I can't go anywhere without stopping there!

@Crimsonorblue22

1 out of 2 is good from Trey. Not so sure in this situation. 😉

@DanR

Good point about top of key help. And it was an amazing dunk. I wonder if Self was ok with it?

@Lulufulu said:

For discussions sake, what happens if KU gets past Oregon tomorrow and ends up meeting UNC

Great question. I'll have to chew on it.

@approxinfinity

Rack him!

PHOF!!!!

437th reason to dislike Marsha • Mar 24, 2017 07:00 PM

@BShark

I am not a simplifier that buys defense flatly wins in the Carney, but its at least one of the crucial elements of the puzzle.

Most important are coaching and talent and shooting well in no particular order.

Less than a whisker after the above comes two things:

1.) greatness at defending the other team's strength; and

2.) Greatness at offending at the other team's weakness.

Give a top coach all of the above, plus at your best when you need your best and that coach will win a lot of rings.

Why do I bring this all up?

Well, what concerns me about UK is the same thing that concerned me about Purdue and Arizona and any team with long athleticism outside and some rim protectors inside.

With long athleticism outside and some rim protection that allows those outside defenders to gamble and stretch consistently outside, the opponent can force KU's strength, trey balling, 2-3 feet farther out, and over the course of most games, 3pt shooting % declines significantly with each foot farther out you go. Its not the hand in the face so much. Some one this season cited some research that how hard you guard out beyond the stripe does not alter 3pt percentage. I agree. But how far out they set up and take the shot from; that DOES lower the trey percentage inevitably.

Couple that rising error factor with distance from the rim with the frustration of our short, good driving guards not being able to drive to counter act the outside over play, because of their ability to block our shots inside, and KU can quickly find itself battling high frustration and going dead in the water. In other words, one of the two worst things that can happen is to have your strength-high percentage trifectation--denied you and having your backup plan b--driving for short treys--denied you, also; so that you have to default to a mid range game.

Part two of the most dreaded duo of denial is them being particularly strong at offending your weakness, or worse, weaknesses. KU's weaknesses are vulnerability to athletic size scoring inside and the outside long athleticism needed to take our short guards to iron and finish for three, and shortly foul them up.

Purdue had the big men, though they weren't all that athletic and when Self adjusted to a back side stripping strategy on the Purdue bigs the second half, Painter could not think on his feet and adjust, or he was on the horns of a dilemma (however he responded was a wash of bad trade offs) and so he responded in a way that didn't work very well.

Painter was right to do what Charles Barkley said he should. Stop playing two bigs at the start of the second half to stop the jail breaks. Just play one, Charles, said, but then Painter didn't go to his lone big every possession and instead wasted to many outside. Worse, when Painter went inside, his big got stripped by JJ with a little backside help and anticipation of the entry pass. The logical move at that point was to go quickly back to playing two bigs, and passing out of the back side strip to the backside big (or even faking the entry pass so the stripper committed, then lobbing to the backside big) for the uncontested basket. On the other end, the logical adjustment was for Painter to go 3-2 junk zone with his two big men, and forego offensive rebounding completely from the perimeter and release the three perimeter players in anticipation of every shot so KU NEVER beat them down court even with Purdue's two bigs playing. But Painter just wasn't up to the strategies and tactics Self was throwing at him, while Self's players were evidencing competitive greatness simultaneously. It just broke Painter and he began to get dear-caught-in-headlight eyes. It happens to the best of them. Its happened to Self against Coach K a few times. Professionals at the peaks of their careers and at the tops of their games at the time, are opponents greatly to be feared by anyone younger and less experienced. Painter got way in over his head and never recovered. And KU burning down the house shooting was like having a nail gun to drive tons of silver nails into Dracula.

Purdue had shown very strong 3pt defense most of the season, but their longish perimeter guys just weren't quick enough to stop us when we put it on the deck. And however one wants to put it, we are a freakishly good team at driving on big men, even athletic ones....WHEN we are hitting our outside shots to make them guard us out there. Without putting too fine a point on it, we are running a 4 point guard offense, with one of the points (staffed by Josh/Svi) rotating like a high low post between the blocks and and a wing, instead of between the low blocks and the top of the circle.

Self has frankly leap frogged what everyone else has been thinking and doing regarding the 4-1 style of play. All teams I have seen playing 4-1` have been playing 4 perimeter players and one big. The perimeter players all play perimeter. To be blunt, Self is running a high low wing offense.Josh rotates with one wing inside to outside if you watch them about a third of the time. Another third of the time Josh is on the perimeter solely running chops and weaves. And a last third of the time Josh is running high low with Landen.

Shit! No college coach has run what Self has been running down the stretch of this season with Josh. I don't know if any other player could have done it. Duke's four guard offense the year they won most certainly did NOT do this. This is a crazy nonlinear leap into effectively three variations of Iba's High Low. Anyone that hates the high low should hate this offense because that is exactly what Self is running two thirds of the time. The only difference is that one third of the time he is rotating point perimeter guys inside and out rather than center and forward.

437th reason to dislike Marsha • Mar 24, 2017 04:54 PM

@nuleafjhawk

Frank went into the Psi zone early this season, came out briefly, went back in and STAYED!!!!

He's been a wonder. Best stretch of everything from a KU guard I can recall.

437th reason to dislike Marsha • Mar 24, 2017 04:48 PM

@mayjay

No richer sweeter recollection than KU coeds breaking out the halter tops in spring after a cold winter. But I also recall the debaucheries of Padre Island and Ft. Lauderdale well just before spring fully sprung in Lawrence. Wonder if they still go to such humble places, or if the world is now their oysters for spring break. Spring break in Sardinia!!!! Ooooh!!!!

437th reason to dislike Marsha • Mar 24, 2017 03:58 PM

@ralster

U r right!

But where has this defensive intensity we have seen the last two games been all season?

It's amazing for such a mature team to suddenly learn to guard hard!

Lane jumping and Stripping was an old trick, but I didn't expect them to be able to do it.

They were great at it!!!!!

437th reason to dislike Marsha • Mar 24, 2017 03:51 PM

@mayjay

Well, I thought about going there, but I wouldn't want to expose us all to the bio weapons lab at KSU. The farmers are all too crazy right now to take the risk.

437th reason to dislike Marsha • Mar 24, 2017 03:46 PM

@justanotherfan

I've watched UCLA a half dozen times the last month. I agree they are good, and Ball is superb, but I'm pretty confident KU would handle them on a night when both teams were playing normally. KU would be another version of Arizona for them, only with a vastly better coach. Arizona won that conference and was just too athletic for UCLA.

Kentucky I flat out don't want to play.

I'm pretty sure Cal was in development zone and didn't even give his guys a wrinkle or an amp against us mid season. That game meant nothing to them and the loss was probably good for the AAU-itis Cal has to work through every year with his one season wonders.

Kentucky has all the athleticism we have, plus the all the size and depth we don't.

If Self were coaching Kentucky, there is zero doubt Kentucky would walk away with the ring this season.

With Cal coaching, it's a 50/50 proposition. Cal is VERY uneven as a coach. He is superb as a motivator and OAD psychologist,but he really is kind of a simpleton about the Xs and Os, and he frequently gets outcoached. For these reasons about which he appears honest with himself about, he has gone the talent route foremost always. He's made clear he won't coach without the most talent.

So: Self over Cal and our experience would be our edges, but they have the perimeter length and athleticism to shut down our Trey game AND sdeny our drives, AND block Josh when he gets through. If Cal gets making shots I just don't see how we beat them. If they were cold, we would hang with them and Self and our guards would get us to bonus early and we'd find a way to win.

But all in all I don't want us to have to play the Stillbillies again.

@kjayhawks

Kiddo, u r reading my mind and lacking the class not to say it!!!

And I love u 2. Lol

Have a great day!!!