@KirkIsMyHinrich Yes, assault is always a proper punishment for following a group of rowdy people stepping ontova court.
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NBC site has a second video from a side angle. It shows a second player, #50, going out to push fans, too.
@FarmerJayhawk Agreed on your second paragraph, but don't let HEM read it.
@FarmerJayhawk I never suggested he would be playing as long as he was enrolled in the program--I meant it seems that a transfer in a 2 year grad program would cost the school 2 years of scholarship for 1 year of eligibility.
Kind of a reverse redshirt, really--on scholarship but not playing after the career is over.
@MoonwalkMafia Well, okay, I can get that, but remember, they are crazy!
@Lulufulu Ah, youngster, you missed so much!
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Duke has 5 championships in 27 years. I certainly am not going to be the one telling them they shouldn't let their fans have fun!
@Crimsonorblue22 Thanks. We just facetimed with the gkids. Seem okay. At least our family didn't try to put some poor kid down a manhole:
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@BShark The second proposal being discussed is actually more interesting--grad student transfers would get a guaranteed sch-ship for the number of years of the program. So, enrolling in a 2 year program would ensure someone 2 years of scholarship--even if the guy has only 1 year of eligibility left?
Coaches will decide only to take guys who enroll in 1 year programs, which bb-minded schools will likely develop some more of if this passes.
Except at UNC, which will just label a few classrooms "1 year graduate school" and leave a pile of masters degree sheepskins inside.
@JayHawkFanToo Imagine those years that Univ of Hawaii was probably wishing they would build a school on the French Frigate Shoals or Midway so they could get some conference games. Travel by outrigger.
WVU ranks 319th in the country in fouling, at about 21.4 per game. It is a myth that they don't get fouls called on them.
KSU, btw, is ranked 229th, at 19.2. So, getting 4 calls fewer against them yesterday than their avg caused Squeaky to bitch. Point plankin'!
@REHawk At this point, he might just be those 5 fouls we talked about early in the season that we needed from someone.
[@dylans said he would have given the championship, if he could, to the 2012 team.] "They earned it."
I started posting that I felt that way about '03 and last year, too, but then I realized that I was just wishing my favorite players could have won, and that unfortunately, they definitely didn't earn it. :frowning2:
@stoptheflop It was Jamari who got slammed, and was amazingly able to not react.
As I have posted before, both our kids are in Hawaii. One, a Marine on Oahu with his wife. The other, on Maui with his wife and 2 kids.
Marine son called us yesterday afternoon (8:45 a.m his time) right after the "incoming ballistic missile--this is not a drill" alert was cancelled. The emergency alerts on everyone's phones had gone off, scaring the crap out of everyone in Hawaii. (The Gov's office tweeted the false alarm info after 15 mins, but they didn't use the alert system to retract the warning until 38 minutes later.) He and his wife knew they were close to probable ground zero--they just went out on the deck figuring what the hell, and had a last cigarette.
Maui son was at the airport, where all planes were grounded and it was a zoo. He called his bro right around the time they saw the tweet retraction. But his wife back home went into a panic. The alert told people to stay inside and seek shelter. They have supplies in the garage for hurricanes and power outages, but she knew it wasn't any protection, so she gathered everyone under the stairs in a windowless craft closet until the alert was cancelled. (Of course, 4 year old didn't want to stop watching his cartoons on Saturday morning, and panicky Mom shrieked at him "Do you want to die?")
Tourists and residents everywhere were herded to basements. Hawaii has no shelters, so no one really knew what to do. All together, a big cluster----. The official in charge of the office where the alert originated admitted someone pressed the wrong button on change of shift when they do a systems check. He took responsibility for not having a two-stage system to avoid this type of thing.
Anyone remember bomb drills in grade school, going down to the hallways in the basement or the furnace room (who were those grizzled guys down there, anyway?), assuming the sitting "tuck" position while hoping it was never real (while enjoying the distraction from class)? Of course, in Kansas it was also for tornados, which were real. I am glad that back then the nuclear forces had systems to avoid some caffeine deprived guy from launching by hitting the wrong button.
All this might seem like, wow, good, nothing happened. But to a few hundred thousand people in one of our states it did happen because they literally were told they were going to be incinerated any minute, and scores of thousands of others were forced to confront a "Day After" future of tsunamis, radiation, and trying to stay unconnected to the outside air for 14 days (the recommended length if a nuclear bomb hits Oahu)--in other words, death since no one has that capability in residences.
Adults may be able to put it into perspective, but I think social psychologists will be able to eat for years studying the effects on any kids who knew what was happening. Our 4 year old grandson will probably be okay because everything is dramatic and exciting and a combo of real and pretend, but I hope the 10 year old granddaughter, and all those other kids who never had to worry about anything, doesn't grow up up overly absorbed in all this.
And I hope this is a lesson to everyone in any position of authority or power, in every party, every office, and every country, that what so far has been "only" scary rhetoric just became a nightmare scenario in the lives of millions.
So....nightmares: memories or dread?
@Fightsongwriter Conference contiguity was an outgrowth (largely in the 20's through 50's) of regional identification but equally the result of travel limitations (train, bus). Jet travel and national media saturation has eliminated many advantages of previous geographic proximity. Charter flights make a huge difference for P5 programs, too.
E.g., you can now fly from OU to WVU in the same amount of time, or less, as it used to take teams to bus from Norman to Ames.
@kjayhawks Maybe they offered the "special recruitment" ammenities to our visitors, who were offended.
@chriz Link doesn't work, "404" then to BR main page
Nah, Izzo loses in the semifinal. Who needs the Bill Self choke one round further?
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@HighEliteMajor I just realized I never answered your earlier question about my comment about contracts. I only meant it might not be correct that we could sign Moose at the amount you suggested. I think it will require more, so the savings compared to Hosmer would not be as dramatically lower as in your hypothetical. But it seems teams are waiting longer to sign FAs, so my comment may have been premature. The signings occurring in MLB this week to avoid arbitration have been interesting.
Silvio to BP: See? That wasn't so hard, was it?
Maybe Self and the NCAA had a deal with all the local news, radio, tv, and fan sites, where they would get a kickback for every click the JH faithful made over those 15,000 minutes HEM counted.
@jaybate-1.0 In BB, I can think of someone you could ask--Pitino, but struggling in a different context.
So when was yesterday if it was today yesterday?
Source?
@Crimsonorblue22 "I don’t know how they could know tomorrow if they are not open."
Express overnight mail? But Parcel Post seems more like it would be the NCAA style on this.
@HighEliteMajor All the articles about him in high school have him playing SS mostly, but also some at 3B, 2B, and C. He was only 5'11 until his senior year. He played OF in the 2006 Junior World Championships and robbed Cuba of a HR in a great leap at the wall. He was drafted as a SS.
That history is obviously one that shows, along with his 3B play with the Royals, that he is a fine athlete who has played a few positions. I have no doubt he could adapt to 1B. But my point is his history does not support any prediction of how well he would do.
There are a lot of players lower than average who have played it since their careers started, and for anyone to assume he could surpass them is a big logical leap. For the Royals to assume he could fluidly transition, and rest their biggest roster decision of this offseason on that assumption, would be a huge gamble.
One other thing: If he could do it, why was Moose never tried at 1B in a game throughout his MLB career? The lack of evidence of something might not amount to any firm evidence, but it might at least be a hint.
"Today" never ends.
@BShark Not war time. The army was hurting for enlistees at the end of the 70's, post-draft era, when no one wanted to volunteer to join an outfit where you might get sent to die, for the exciting pay of something like $450 per month (1979).
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So...they found him incompetent to stand trial?
Some of my clients were literally barely competent to breathe. Back then 60 to 70 % of enlistees tested in the lowest acceptable quartile on entrance IQs (something like 75 to 85).
@JayHawkFanToo @Red-Rooster @jaybate-1-0
True story from my Army JAG days representing soldiers convicted in courts-martial around the world. One client was a PFC pleading guilty to a simple assault. In a guilty plea the Military Judge goes over all the elements of the offense, and the accused tells his story to ensure he actually is guilty. The MJ then explains what the possible punishments are.
MJ: Now, Private Jones, you understand this is a Special Court-Martial with power to impose, among other things, a bad-conduct discharge?
Jones: Yessir, I do.
MJ: Do you understand that one of those other things you can be sentenced to is a forfeiture of 2/3 pay and allowances for a period of 6 months?
Jones: Yessir, I do.
MJ: And you understand that you also face a period of confinement up to 6 months? Do you have an appreciation of that as well?
Jones: No, Sir, I don't! I don't appreciate that at all!
I think we all have forgotten: tomorrow never comes.
@BeddieKU23 Most kids have no clue about their parents' finances, so if Dad didn't suddenly start spending it, I find it easy to believe. Now, since he had thought about going elsewhere, he might have wondered why Dad got more interested in Louisville, but it would not be hard for his Dad to come up with good reason to join a recent champ'ship winner and HOF coach.
Plus, the kid in the interest of due diligence probably felt a strong sense of duty to check out that hooker stuff.
The NCAA has their hands full. Bowen, late of Louisville, whose father has struck it rich (unbeknown to the kid, acc to FBI), has now enrolled at South Carolina and they are starting the whole eligibility clearance thing for him. F Martin sounded like they will seek a waiver so he can play next fall, but it looks like spring 2019. He is eligible to enter the draft but assured USC he wants to be here all next season.
Local paper thinks this could attract Zion to USC from his Clemson lean.
If this all pans out, Martin will have rebuilt quickly from losing the heart of the F4 team. 42% 3 pt shooter Rakym Felder is also back on campus doing things with the team after being booted for a second arrest in the summer (charges were dropped).
Generalissimo!
@Kcmatt7 I am quite impressed with the extent of your knowledge on the cap and the Chiefs' position strengths. Very helpful.
@chriz Self likes to mix it up, so it is not a great comparison. But WSU may be pressuring a bad team just to run up the score to try to look more impressive at selection time. Not very classy, though. I think they should still play D, obviously, but just like hard fouls in a runaway or using your last two timeouts in the last 30 secs, it is just not necessary.
@Kcmatt7 I decided to test our theories with your examples. A couple of six footers (including Brett), but most were taller. Some had prior experience or moved earlier (a couple later). Mauer is probably most similar to Moose's stage of career, but he is 6'5". Some were 1B entire career, or nearly.
Pujols, 6'3"
42 games age 21, 21 games age 22, 62 games age 23, 150 age 24 (moved full time)
Cabrera, 6'4"
Moved to 1st base age 25, never played it before
Carpenter, 6'3"
Started at first at age 26 in his second MLB season (played 3 games at 1B in minors), was moved next season to third, played 3B & 2B mostly for next 2 years, several at 1B, then has moved in the past 2 years to 1st and a bunch at 2B. Total of 214 games at 1B out of >870 in MLB (201 at 2B, 452 at 3B)
Sweeney, 6'1"
Age 21-25 catcher, moved to first and DH exclusively for next 11 years, almost exactly league average fielding %age for career (Sweeney .990, league avg in his years, .993)
Piazza, 6'3"
1 game at 1B age 24, 1 game age 34, 68 games age 35 (70 games total)
Split remaining 3 years of career between C and DH
Garciaparra, 6'
Almost exclusively a SS until 31, then moved to 3B, to 1B at 32, played 210 games at 1B over 4 seasons until retired. Had high career fielding %age at 1B (.998)
Hanley Ramirez, 6'2"
151 games at 1B in last 2 seasons (133 at age 31, 18 at age 32), never before. High fielding %age (.997). Played SS mostly in career.
Konerko, 6'2"
18 year career, started at age 21 splitting at 3B and 1B, last 14 years mostly at 1B. Total of 1904 games at 1B, 345 at DH, 29 at 3B, 1 in outfield,
Mauer, 6'5"
started move to 1B at age 28
A pause in the hostilities for something that actually IS important: We had 73 degrees here in SC, which is the one thing I like about living here. But 100 million people are facing ice and snow from this front that liquified the hills around Montecito. Prayers for the grieving.
OK, carry on (if you must).
@Kcmatt7 Besides the height, which puts him at a disadvantage even if you disagree, my skepticism comes from something you keep ignoring: he has never played it in even one game (Baseball Reference) so there is no evidence on which to assume he would be average or better. Brett had played in over 20 games at 1st while rehabbing from the age of 26 to 30, and even when he did move to 1st regularly at 34 he often played DH instead. But there was at least a history on which to judge. Oh, and he was ambidextrous (he even threw batting practice left handed sometimes), which might not be relevant but it is very cool).
@HighEliteMajor I understand the argument, but the assumption both of his contract and level of play may be a stretch. Who takes 3rd?
Reconstruction ended in one great triumph of bipartisanship in the Compromise of 1877--when the Republicans agreed to let the Democrats in the South do whatever the hell they wanted to (to rebuild the South and to enact Jim Crow laws) in exchange for letting Hayes steal the election (leaving the Repubs in the WH).
@jaybate-1.0 The Union should have insisted when Lee and Grant met at Appomattox: we will let you back in immediately if, and only if, you shove SC out to sea.
@HighEliteMajor That explains his lower than avg interception rate.
@JayHawkFanToo Agreed. The commentators in the Tex-TCU game were making similar comments.
One caveat. When any team is trying to get an upset, the announcers always talk about what their strategy should be. When the game is almost over, it is more exciting, but Fran's comment did sound almost panicky when ISU didn't do the fouling. We always accept that in Dickie V as his personality, but when Fran gets excited a lot of people here think it is his bias against KU. I think it is the bias of ALL announcers in favor of an upset. We have also seen him excited when KU does great stuff but people seem to miss those.
@jaybate-1.0 Retired from the swamp. Moved to SC in 2006.
Out of the Swamp, into pure Hell.
Helluva game. 2 OTs. Tex dedicated the game to Jones, and both teams went full bore so it was fun to watch (at least in the second half and OTs, which is all I saw). Clutch performances all over, including the shots to force OT. I feel bad for Fisher for a last second missed layup where I think he was expecting contact and instead got totally by his guy and put it too hard off the glass with .8 left.
@jaybate-1.0 Shooting percentages can look good, but can be deceptive with smaller sample sizes, for sure. The 3 pt % of Mitch is an example. No one knows for sure whether if playing extended minutes at the 4 he would keep up his 50 % avg (prob lower now since he missed his only one last night).