Here we go fellas and ladies.
Lets bring the fire boys.
Here we go fellas and ladies.
Lets bring the fire boys.
Let's go!!!!!!!
Let's do this- - -ROCK CHALK
Gd Juan
Ain't winning with that defense
SAME SONG 2ND VERSE
@BeddieKU23 ain’t winning with out 6th year greatest to ever play missing wide open 3s, layups and getting taken to the hole for layups. Pull that non athletic guy out
They may not need Boogie Fland
Haha that was awful
Rylans shot left the building
I can’t wait for Juan to be gone.
Ya think we can find some fricken one who can shoot the dam ball in the portal this yr ?
Juan is completely fucking useless can barely get the ball across the time line
@BeddieKU23 was it eve there ?
@kjayhawks oh you talking about Rylan Spot on Buddy
@SlimShaddy54 Juan’s gave up 6 points himself about to 7
hope they get their heads in the game.
Zeke seems to be the guy who can be the hero if he locks in.
Juando getting schooled again, he’s the Arkansas MVP thus far
There ya go Juan you just took your team out
Oh well. It's been a great season. Wait - no it hasn't. Come on football season!
@nuleafjhawk we fine just need to keep Juan out
All you naysayers. We got this.
Adams afraid to literally anything with the ball
@approxinfinity I’m not giving up yet just pissed our 6th year all world all god PG came out the way he did
Kinda stinkin' so far but hanging in there for better times ahead, I hope.
Look Dajuan never called himself a God. Lets root for the kid, Bills inane decisions aside.
Need to play smart and capitalize on them having 3 freshman in the game
Man I about wet myself every dam time I see this current lineup on the floor- -KJ- -Stor- -& Flory. Where the hell is your scoring coming from ?
@approxinfinity no coach sure thinks he is tho
@kjayhawks well yeah we are finding form with his butt on the bench.
Juan is playing horrible. I’m okay with him sitting with two fouls
@approxinfinity down 7 to tied and down 1 🤷🏻♂️
Yep. Arkansas isnt an elite team. We can make mistakes and win. We need to hang in there and settle down.
@approxinfinity no question they are elite athletes not BB players
Shak looks very ready to play.
Come on, AJ!
Good take AJ
Mayooooo
Mayooooo
Slatherrrred
AJ stay humble!
Good shit!
I’m not sure either team is good enough to pull away
Flory kowabunga
AJ!
big shot
@approxinfinity 10 point swing enjoy your crow
Hunter never helps his cause by yelling at refs
Stop it self
Shak!
At least they are playing hard.
Juando is back let’s go man play hard and smart!
Shak off the bench and into the fire
Well not going to lie , AJ has had a decent stretch tonight
@kjayhawks dude i never said juan wasnt playing like ass. I just dont think its fair to mock him for being godlike when it seems like his confidence might be his biggest problem.
The upside of having feet of concrete - Dickinson sets a mean screen. Little guys bounce off him.
Flory gotta catch those oops
We should win if 2 out of 3 play well…. AJ, Diggy, Raylen
If only 1 plays good we are maybe 50/50
Turn around and dunk it good grief
Hunter turn the other way
At least he is ringing up the stat sheet… someone has to!
What a terrible bailout call
Complete horsecrap
KJ…. Invisible so far
Out of control
KJ and Juan… hundred years of experience… absent
Zeke playing at Allen
Boom mayo!
Zeke 💪
Braids more often
We can’t win if we don’t hit FTs
Good stuff AJ
KJ heard me
Good strong move from KJ
Going to hole strong
Yes. Hunter, take note.
KJ finally a few good moments, he looks tiny out there
They have foul trouble!
Still seems like KJ should just jam that
And they have little bench
I’ll bet Calipari has experience with the best coke ever
Self needs to have them pound it in the paint
I'll say this... Cal does not run anything fancy on offense, but his guys don't screw it up much either.
From the stratosphere by Storr
Wow!
Storr says GTFO son!!
Even if it's just this game, I hope Storr plays his ass off
Ka Boom. Lucky no T
AJ just made the tournament reel!
AJ has come to play - -Thank You very much
We can't get a stop on the defensive end
We have a chance! Now if Juan can contribute
1.5/40=37.5k/m. I’ll take it.
I’d like to see Juan defend like he used to
@SlimShaddy54 said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
We can't get a stop on the defensive end
We can't get a stop because we cannot keep anyone from easily getting into the paint. Offense is okay, but we are giving up 50%+ on the defensive end...
Another dumb pass
@Kcmatt7 said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
I can’t wait for Juan to be gone.
I hope it lasts as long as possible. Maybe 6 more games including this one? But a change next season will be nice.
Pump fakes arent working. If we dont have position lets kick and slash
Predictable
END OF HALF MELTDOWN ALERT
We need Flory
@approxinfinity said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
@kjayhawks dude i never said juan wasnt playing like ass. I just dont think its fair to mock him for being godlike when it seems like his confidence might be his biggest problem.
Dejuan seems very introverted in person. I’m sure he’s out of his comfort zone most of the time for KU.
AJ Storr tonight is The Truth
How many times this year have we give up about 50 points in a half????
Last 2 minutes have been detrimental to our season
Consistent at least
Pretty bad pass
How the hell do we stop Adoo
Don't let him get the ball
I’d like to see us win this game… mostly because I dislike Cal. Otherwise…. I’m relieved when this season is over
I'm happy we've kept up. D is absolute crap.
Got to give him the foul for that spectacular flop
A lot of positives, and we’re still down 3 🙃
Dang it Hunter. The backend d was good.
If you told me we let up 47, I’d say we are down 10-15
Let em shot 55% that's why
Their Achilles Heel is foul trouble
@dylans said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
Dang it Hunter. The backend d was good.
Why no free throws? Edit - not in bonus, 6 fouls.
Hope they get more tired than our guys
Our backcourt outside mayo has not scored.
Griffen zeros for the half - other than missing shots, nothing else on the stat sheet...
Self needs to chew Harris’ ass at halftime. He’s playing like a wuss!
Once again most of our defensive issues are caused by switching. We had AJ, Zeke, Coit, Juan and Shak awitched to a big at time that mostly led to easy buckets for them.
@BeddieKU23 yea but Storr has made up for it a bit.
What might be his last game and he didn’t show up
Defense in the pain the biggest issue so far. Not sure there is a change we can make other than more Flory. And I don’t suspect that will happen.
@drgnslayr 4 assists
@drgnslayr or whatever brings him out of his shell. That used to work. Now my young help quits if you don’t use the proper motivational techniques and sometimes even if you do!
@drgnslayr said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
Self needs to chew Harris’ ass at halftime. He’s playing like a wuss!
It’s real simple for him, repeat that performance and that’s all she wrote on your career.
@Crimsonorblue22 it’s not like he created offense with those passes…
@Crimsonorblue22 he gave up 14 points to the man he was guarding. Didn’t move his feet and struggled to get the ball across half court. We was down 7 with him in to start took a 3 point lead. He subs back in and we are down 3 at the break, his plus/minus has to be the only negative besides maybe Flory a true freshman playing in his first tournament game.
@drgnslayr said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
@Crimsonorblue22 it’s not like he created offense with those passes…
Agreed. He had an opportunity in that fast break to draw a foul and instead he avoided contact and missed a layup.
Not driving the ball to score or anything.
Hard to win without a lick of defense
Very happy that AJ has come to play.
And why is it every game we make one guy who averages like zero points a game into an all star?
Step it up, defense!
@drgnslayr Ya Arkansas making it look easy- - -Adoo-- -Wagner
I think we have to muddy up this game or it will look like Gonzaga did last season. Don’t believe we have the fire power to score 40 plus in another half
@kjayhawks Wagner has 12 pts, you counting when Juan was on the bench too?
Even Hunter often pivots away from the basket and shoots a hook on a small defender. Oops… better keep my mouth shut since he’s most of our offense!
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
@kjayhawks Wagner has 12 pts, you counting when Juan was on the bench too?
When you switch every pass you don’t guard the same person every trip come on now.
I see it this way… if we can go on a defensive spurt in the second half we could win… otherwise… this is it!
@kjayhawks I know, did a lil coaching.
Hope Zeke stays aggressive in the 2nd half- -got to have him
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
@kjayhawks I know, did a lil coaching.
Well your statement makes it seem like you don’t when you say one guy has 12
One of these teams is going to play a little D in the second half and win this game!
I would much rather lose to St Johns if we have to lose.
Guessing… the team that comes out more enthused to start the second half will win. Except… my ability to predict sucks! 😂
@approxinfinity the only coach I hate more that Slick back hair used car sales Cal is Ole rat face K himself
I don’t drink but maybe a shot of tequila will help this game move along
@kjayhawks I knew I liked you before… now you made my all star team!
I looked up the clip that Ernie Johnson said Pitinos white suit reminded him off. It was an amusing watch:
Rabbit’s foot… where’d it go! 😂☘️
Like I said earlier, I'm just afraid we can't play much better offensively, and we just can't continue to swap baskets with them If we don't play better defensively then - - -Somebody has got to slow down Adoo- -
Well it's time to see what they are made of
@approxinfinity ha… it showed me an Untouchables clip!
Yeah. Sorry i didnt realize it preserved the timestamp. I updated the clip to start at beginning
@approxinfinity I still enjoyed the clip
Harris!
Omg
Good shit juan
Shooting 40% and giving up 56% isn't going to get it done...
Need AJ
I hate this offense
Wow, our starters man.
Rylan’s instincts suck.
Rope a dope I hope
Well maybe the most critical stretch of the game and your 7'2 big man decides he needs to jack up a 3
I’m sorry but Juan has to leave the game if we want a shot at it. Walking the ball around and no offense flow. It’s not going to work against an athletic team, have to swing it and move
@SlimShaddy54 said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
Well maybe the most critical stretch of the game and your 7'2 big man decides he needs to jack up a 3
Shot clock at 2
I mean. Well it's not worth saying it anymore. Certain guys out there get to do little and play a lot of minutes
Danger zone.
Flory needs minutes
Shak Mayo AJ KJ Bidunga please
@BeddieKU23 said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
I mean. Well it's not worth saying it anymore. Certain guys out there get to do little and play a lot of minutes
Remember some one last October and this October saying we aren’t making past the first weekend with Juan and KJ playing 30 plus minutes a game…….. update it was me
AJ.. yes
probably the only Big 12 team lose their first round game-- way to suport
Play the bench Self. This can't be how we go down
All 5 Arkansas starters have 3 RBs. KJ has 2. Juan and Griffen scoreless...
@approxinfinity said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
Shak Mayo AJ KJ Bidunga please
Not Shak. Let Diggy hoist up a few.
There's no excuse for that
This is just sad...scoreless this half...
Dickinson has 11, Aidoo has 18
We got to get Harris OUT
We go down 15 I’m going out and cleaning up dog poo
You won't have to wait too long
@drgnslayr its a toss up
This team knows what it's like to stink, so they aren't flustered yet.
I’m sorry but this is poor coaching, AJ best best half arguably all season. Sitting on the bench while we can’t score
@kjayhawks Coaching? What coaching?
these fricken turnovers-- -so f - - - - - sloppy all dam year sloppy , sloppy , sloppy
We making Arkansas look like a top 5 tteam
We look like a friggin’ division 2 team this half
@kjayhawks said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
@Kcmatt7 drives me nuts to go from guys like Frank and Graham that drive in to contact instead of falling away from it
It’s just BBIQ
@drgnslayr Harris sure does
At least mayo has shot well.
9-3 TO deficit...
Mayo and AJ came to play.
Mayo has a few TOs to go with his shots though
Now can I look forward to football? 🏈
@drgnslayr said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
We look like a friggin’ division 2 team this half
We just don’t have the horses, they are light years more athletic than us. We could still win but we can’t make the silly mistakes. My wife is watching her first game of the season she don’t watch and says wow we look so much slower than them.
@approxinfinity said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
Mayo and AJ came to play.
Yet invisible man Rylan is in the game…
I'm so tired of Hanni sucking up and trying to make excuses for KU
@kjayhawks your wife is smart
Your wife would enjoy watching Bidunga
So much for Microsoft AI. Look for their stock to plummet
see we get so dam far behind THEN we finally to make a tiny spurt but so far behind
Hunter. Please.
@approxinfinity said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
Your wife would enjoy watching Bidunga
Oh yea she’s pretty fair weather these days but was at KU Roy’s last run. Had a class with Collison and knows good ball and this ain’t it
Have to keep with momentum plays like that
Remarkable that KJ has no low post game other than lobs....
Why does KJ not jump in the low post? Mystery.
This game is as entertaining as taking care of your kids with stomach flu
Arkansas doing everything in their power trying to let us back in the game and we say - -- NO THANKS
omg jUAN SCORED
I'll be honest, I don't want to watch them play again at this point. Just get it over with.
Wake Juan come on brother!!!
I just keep reminding myself that Arkansas is not that good and we should still win this
Welcome to the ballgame Juan! Again!
Yessss
Damn rebound the ball!!!!
Can't rebound nothing
Suddenly we decided to relax from rebounding
Arkansas getting pass happy now
I like this because usually when we come out this way we don’t wake up til 5 minutes to go and it’s too little too late. Plenty of time here
This is our year… we start playing like to go on a run then we fail with TOs or rebounding
@BeddieKU23 said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
Can't rebound nothing
Zone that they never play or have length to rebound out of like Baylor. Give and get
Come on, game… end!
Mayo has 16 on 6 shots. Get him some looks. Good grief
@drgnslayr exactly - -to bad we can't or won't play a complete game
now Dickinson not hitting
Hunt has to hit those deep post shots
Nice brick hunt
And just like that
Back up to Seven
Not the time for a dud game, Hunt. Come on man
This Cal team sucks… for God’s sake… fellas… just play a few minutes of real basketball!
There we go Zeke way to take it in there
Could set a screen for Zeke guys
nine and half minutes left ... now or never
Thank you Juan
@BeddieKU23 said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
Mayo has 16 on 6 shots. Get him some looks. Good grief
Non Power 5 portal guy was not supposed to be our main go to guy.... but it is what it is....
And one ref!
3 or 4 minutes of real ball… that’s all it will take!
Cal cant coach them out of this. Time to F em up!
Damn some air under Flory
Crank it up. They are tired.
Flory Flory Flory!
FLORY
Flory! Please come back next year!
Bill Self keeping this 2-3 zone secret all season apparently
Loving the hustle from Harris. He finally turned it up!
@DanR said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
Damn some air under Flory
Flory’s armpit was near even with the rim on that dunk prob close to a foot above it with his head
@BeddieKU23 I guess he realized the game was 40 minutes
@Kcmatt7 said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
Bill Self keeping this 2-3 zone secret all season apparently
I vaguely remember me saying the switching defense has killed us lol
Sticking Rush up front…. 1-2-2 then
@drgnslayr said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
Sticking Rush up front…. 1-2-2 then
we don't have that guy now
@drgnslayr said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
Sticking Rush up front…. 1-2-2 then
Actually forgot about how sexy that was.
Wish we did…
Storr has the length but not the mojo to do it
FG% and TOs have evened up a bit, which is why this is now a 1 pt game... But every Razorback starter has more RBs than KJ...
Drake killin mizzou
Lots of KC area kids on Drake's team!
We should win this game
Feed Flory
Again.. Not sure why the trust is not there... Flory was ahead of his defender.. SMH
Yes
AJ is my friggin hero
Bill coaches better in a suit
Leave Dickinson on the bench
Fudge… Dickinson back
That’s Juan Harris getting those long arms in the passing lanes
If we lose this riding Dickinson i think im gonna lose my shit
Why did Bill change the lineup
Million dollar man gotta play
good j
@approxinfinity if you lose it, you can find it in Self's brain
Pull away now for Gods sake
My god, KJ can't jump when he's under the rim
AJ!
AJ AJ AJ
Big time AJ
Come on, brother… hit one more dagger trey!
AJ wanted that more than him and I love seeing it. Come on fellas let’s finish this. No more turnovers and keep up the defense
just need to keep rolling and not let up and try to run out time
Mayo dagger incoming!!
Cart ahead of horses, but win this game and Pitino has to spend all day tomorrow working on a f*cking zone lmao
Guys the BIGGEST FOUR MINUTES of the Season coming up. - -Re adjust your jocks- -suck it up on D and finish- - -PLEASE
Yep
can we finish with the guys that got us here, juan bidunga pls
Oof
Bidunga time
Great
Not good
WTF!!!!
Now we're playing Kansas ball
Can't stop turning it over
stupid slooow lob
The most experienced team in college ball and we cannot execute at the end of halves and games....
Good thought AJ. bS foul
if we control the rebound, we'll win
oh my
Nope
Here we go
Hunter you dummy
3 consecutive TOs...just pathetic...
Stupid!
This our identity folks close game, 3 straight turnovers and that’s all she wrote. Of course had to give us hope
This team’s biggest issue may be executing end of game plays. Seriously.
Another game seemingly in hand...
All of Hunters turnovers are either in backcourt or at 3 pt line. Just awful.
Get what you deserve. Ark gave the lead to us and we well you know.
Plenty of time to grow a brain, Hunter
FFFFFF Dickins
Each player has their IQ on their jersey
lol
Ha
AJ storr is a mad genius though today
I swear if we win the championship I'd still be happy some of these guys are gone
Juan after such a great half throws his second pass in 1 minute to traffic
And just like that. Harris does what he always does
:smh
We’ve seen this story 10 times this year unfortunately
I'm happy for the end
So not clutch
This team at the end of games....
Thank the Good Lord this season is over 🙏
Over… good
Dr Kavorkian this team
Fire Self
I guess mercy killing is legal in Arkansas
Every season that ends in the tournament hurts. Not this one.
I mean good guys. Awful team.
I'm so glad this Season is over
See yall next season! Thanks, as always folks!
Last time I'll write the name Hunter I hope for the rest of my life. What a disaster.
Turnovers by the seniors lost the game. They had their chance, and they blew it.
one bucket with 10 seconds left in the last 5 minutes...
C'mon Bill. Put us out of our misery
@BeddieKU23 first time I’ve ever been relieved to see us finished. Been watching for about 60 years!
At least it was a predictable outcome
Its not even over. But it is
Dickinson- - -Harris - -Adams -- - Griffen - AJ - - -GONE
Neither team excited to win
We ended up winning or even on all the stats excepts TOs, and that was the difference...
mAN i'M SO READY FOR FOOTBALL- -- -i DOUBT i WATCH ANYMORE GAMES sCREW THIS
AI is dumb. Woo hoo! Long live humanity
How can you turn the ball over 12 times in the second half?
Do we have ONE 80% ft shooter?
Pretty sure KJ tore his Achilles.
Very easy for this group
@nuleafjhawk i THINK mAYO
@bskeet said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
Pretty sure KJ tore his Achilles.
went downhill after that for sure
Think Bill’s beer belly is back
In all seriousness, I would be okay with returning everyone from this team eligible to return. I think Hunt and Juan leaving may be enough of a change.
4 turnovers for Zeke, 4 for Hunter and 3 Juan all seniors with most of these coming the last few minutes
@SlimShaddy54 Arkansas's whole team is there. Is that coaching? 🤔
Should've never brought hunter back into the game
I don't know how far my stream is behind, but it's not out of Cal's ability to blow this
@kjayhawks said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
4 turnovers for Zeke, 4 for Hunter and 3 Juan all seniors with most of these coming the last few minutes
Mostly awful turnovers. Arkansas didn’t even make us pay for most of them…
@rcjhdraft agreed.
@rcjhdraft said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
Should've never brought hunter back into the game
KJ being hurt kinda played that hand unfortunately
Wore my Southeast Regional champions tshirt from 1991. Hoped it would be good luck.
Just laughed thinking Griff might do something
Welp. Sigh
@kjayhawks I don't think he's hurt. I think he just didn't want to be on the court with those other weenies
I was in the mood and wore my Miles Davis shirt
@nuleafjhawk F - - - I don't know
Ch-ch-ch-changes.
@nuleafjhawk said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
@kjayhawks I don't think he's hurt. I think he just didn't want to be on the court with those other weenies
We was up by 3 when he left, didn’t have much to do with Zeke forgetting how to dribble and Juan throwing away the ball
So , So , so , many things wrong with this team - -pretty much of a disgrace
Darn… too dark to pick up dog poo
Hate that Arkansas advances... but it'll make sure I never forget how much I disliked this team built out of quitter transfers this season.
Rock Chalk
Nice last fitting TO by Hunt.
This is the most excited I've been for football in a while
@nuleafjhawk said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
This is the most excited I've been for football in a while
Team looks good. Should catch a baseball game too if you can. I’ll make it out to one or two.
My only smile this year was watching KSU not invited to the NIT then saying they wouldn’t go
Great way to finish your career Dickinson and our Season Dickinson.-- 4-13 shooting and FOUR TURNOVERS -two in the most critical time of the game you need help getting out? - I can help ya with that.- -
Most losses since 198
Lots of work to do this off season to get back to respectability. - Got to find guys who can dribble the ball--- make have way decent passes -- and be able to finish two foot shots and putbacks-- someone with much better then two inch explosion.-- Did Dickinson even score in the2nd half
Hope KJ's injury isn't as bad as it looked. All I'm going to say right now.
Well, we had a lead with minutes to go, then just started tossing the ball to the other team.
So hard to see that.
Go get a GM. Go get some actual athletes at the 3,4 and 5.
We are definitely heading towards the end of an era. This year or the next few. It was about as good of a run as anyone has ever had. I still think Bill can get one more. But things certainly have to change to make that happen.
Juan was a great guy. KJ was a great guy. I’ll wish them both the best. I wish they had a better ending.
But I’m excited to see some new guys rocking the Crimson and Blue.
Well friends thats it the worst year in 42 seasons. I hate the way we lost it, seniors throwing the ball away. I hate that KJ got hurt when we had a 3 point lead. Juando was great for about 7 minutes and completely useless the other minutes he was on the floor. Finished his career 2-3 in NCAA games without having a back up capable of starting like Remy sorry that’s the worst PG in the Self era. Great kid but so glad to never watch him play again. Gonna have nightmares about his turnovers late and unwillingness to push the ball when he had the chance dozens of times.
My favorite part of this season?
About 15 minutes ago.
I am glad this season is mercifully over. No. Scratch that. I am glad that the Hunter Dickinson era at KU is mercifully over. Now we can move on.
Disappointing end. We had it and then we let it slip away. Thanks Srs. Mayo should have been a hawk all along but had a good yr here. Harris and Adams are the end of the championship teams DNA. A new era awaits us
We must Keep Flory and gets some guards that ain’t scared to put the ball on the floor
I REALLY don't want either Storr or Rylan back next year , 1 or 2 half ass games does not a Season make- - what a bust of portal wasted
Well crud. I don't think I can watch another game this year.
I'm a little bit different, I guess. I will watch a LOT of the Tournament now. Usually (well, in the good ol days) I'd be so dejected when we lost that I was just done. Now I'm relieved and looking forward to watching real basketball.
This. We spent an inordinate amount of time handwringing about total dysfunction. Its a relief to have closure.
It is his Achilles. His family was w/him in the locker room. Don't know the full severity of it.
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
It is his Achilles. His family was w/him in the locker room. Don't know the full severity of it.
Yea, looked like it.
The way he reacted and went straight to the locker room. Terrible.
@Crimsonorblue22 thats awful. We would have won that game with KJ. Sucks to go out like that. Hope KU takes care of him.
Small consolation is the dirty slavers are about lose as well to Drake.
@approxinfinity agree, the lead and the ball.
I think AJ can be successful next year. Not sure about here. I dont get the feeling he wants to be here.
I hope AJ comes back and Self can get the best out of him though, if that relationship isnt fractured.
@approxinfinity said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
I think AJ can be successful next year. Not sure about here. I dont get the feeling he wants to be here.
AJ wouldn't have chosen KU on his own. He was pushed here by family because KU made the biggest offer.
Drake 75 Slavers 65 final
KJ-- - -I don't give a rats ass what anyone else whether it's here with this room , or in the phog ----- -or ANYWHERE , yes you was limited on the offensive end I get that-- -but there is or was NO ONE & I mean NO ONE that gave the effort you did every time you stepped on the floor, you played with so much heart and grit- - to bad others on the team didn't have the heart you had. You was on the floor a lot for loose balls- - defending-- just really trying to do your best when we had others that played half ass for over the three quarters of the year.
I will never question your heart and guts and love for this team.-- So KJ from me and possibly only me- - doesn't matter as far as I'm concerned I have no doubt you always gave it your all- -doing work , dirty work theta others on this team had no desire to do.-- So KJ I say to you - -THANK YOU BUDDY greatly appreciated for your hustle , work , and effort doing what you could do and always giving it 100 %- - I'm glad you was a Jay Hawk.
My prayers-- my wishes for you to have a speedy healthy recovery Bud- -- - just remember buddy once a Jay Hawk - - ALWAYS A JAY HAWK- - your family, always have been-- always will be- --- Thank you again Buddy- -best of luck ----Rock Chalk
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
Small consolation is the dirty slavers are about lose as well to Drake.
I considered buying tickets to boo them in Wichita but they have 3 Kansas kids on their roster a couple weeks really missed on.
@SlimShaddy54 anyone that doesn’t feel terrible for the way it ended for KJ should have their ass whipped especially the ones calling themselves KU fans. KJ gave this place his whole heart and I’d don’t think anyone logical would disagree. I sure as hell wish he was out there at the end. Just as much as I wished he developed into a great player. I’ll miss his dunks and fist pumping. I place a lot of the blame on Self for the position he put him in. That’s a Mitch Lightfoot fan favorite if he was put in the position to succeed at this place. As much as I like guys like him and Juando as people and hope they succeed in lifee, they should’ve never been starters getting primo minutes at Kansas. They aint starting at most power schools right now.
The biggest issue I have right now- Tang is 3-3 vs Bill Self and has more NCAAs tournament than Self since he got to Manhattan. Of all the streaks this team destroyed, that is the most unacceptable stat in Kansas basketball history.
Travelled all afternoon. Got here to mom and dads and just finished watching. Disappointing finish, LOL.
Factors,
Injury to KJ seems to be when the meltdown doomed our season. Forget the exact game situation but had the ball up three I think. Then started back with the inexplicable turnovers. Those hurt us all game. Really frustrating to see so many experienced guys make such boneheaded plays.
I always complain about refs and when it says Ark 3 with about 3 minutes left I'm pretty pissed because that was a physical game. Haven't read the chat above so I don't know if anyone had the same thoughts about refs. I really can't think of a specific except Zeke getting bumped out of bounds once late it looked like. Not sure refs were a huge factor as much as the ugly turnovers.
Arkansas was very beatable today so it's a bit frustrating but I'll get over this one pretty fast since the real regret about this season has been building since we got blitzed by Creighton in mid December and it was just a sign of things to come.
I've 'won' 3 nattys in my time as a KU fan. Really spoiled as a KU fan and it's a whole lot better than what most D1 fans go through with their teams. Most can only dream of FFs. So trying to keep a proper perspective on all of this.
I know people have a difference of opinion about this but as much as people will blame Harris and KJ and Dickinson for this disaster of a season I blame the dudes Bill Self recruited to play here that left and would still be here if they appreciated what it means to put on a KU uniform. Grady and Furphy and the St. Johns Dude and the TCU dude and others i don't really care to even look up their names could've been part of a core that might've been cutting down the nets this season. I hope Furphy had fun sitting on the bench again tonight in Indy getting zero minutes while on the other side was Jalen Wilson who probably told him you could've been playing tonight in the NCAA tournament you greedy fool. I guess Grady's hurt, whatever, he could've been THE MAN this year making 7 figures as a college guy. Whatever. Have fun in the national Boring association. The transfers I understand a bit at least. NYC has some appeal for whoever is at st johns. But TCU? Really? Leave KU for stinking lousy TCU? Why?
All of these guys are the real guys to blame for leaving our cupboard half full this season. The recruiting restrictions hurt too of course. 3 lackluster season finishes in a row have got me even thinking do we need a change? Maybe Self is doing some soul searching and will follow the still viable successful coaches like Jay Wright into retirement. IDK. Not used to this year after year feeling.
I'll list the obviously desperate acts Bill Self miraculously resorted to tonight (finally -- and they worked):
-- Zone defense. Stupid effer could have done this much earlier in the season to help us out a bit???
-- Playing AJ more minutes.
Both worked very well tonight.
Why did he decide to succumb tonight? He has had many chances all year to alter his approach.
And Fun With the Box Score!!
Actually, not much stood out to me tonight. Lots of similar stats.
The biggest thing was turnovers: KU 16 -- Arkansas 10
One small thing also stood out: AJ Storr got 28 minutes, and produced.
@wissox Zuby and Udeh left because they were recruited over with more money thrown at Dickinson. That is related to coaches not assessing appropriately the ceiling that the players have and going after fool’s gold (Dickinson) when you had 2 bigs that would most likely be playing for KU if not for the portal and NIL. The only question is whether Zuby would develop into the player he currently is if he stayed at KU.
@rockchalkjayhawk that’s the saddest part we really won every stat category besides turnovers. The only other thing that stands out to me is Juan 4-11 from the floor and Hunt 4-13. Most of those shots they took were good looks too. Think Hunt had a few bad 3s other than that both guys had shots you have to make in March. Juan had a couple drives that he avoided contact for a circus shot when he likely gets free throws. The only other question to me is why Zeke didn’t get more looks, been begging for an elevator screen type play for him all season 4/5 from distance, the other guys failed getting him the rock. Anyone have the plus/minus for this one?
Hate KJ got hurt.
We aren’t talented enough and that’s on the staff. The old Self would’ve recruited over a few of these guys. The new Self just tells us how much they’re winners while we get our tails kicked by any team with some decent talent.
I gotta say I’m shocked @kuballin10 isn’t here blowing his cork. Prob too busy helicoptering himself
@kjayhawks Coit +6, KJ +3, Shak +1, Storr -1, Bidunga -4, Dickinson -8, Rylan -9, Mayo -10, and Juan -13.
@TYOHawk said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
Hate KJ got hurt.
We aren’t talented enough and that’s on the staff. The old Self would’ve recruited over a few of these guys. The new Self just tells us how much they’re winners while we get our tails kicked by any team with some decent talent.
Being real with whom we had this season it’s very true. I’m gonna give self some credit here because idk if a lot coaches get this group to the tournament tho I disagree with a lot of his coaching this season.
Juan- doesn’t start at any other school in the B12
Zeke- a top 10 3 point shooting season in ku history but lacks defense and creating his owe shot.
Rylen- spot up shooter that was too scared to shoot, basically Timberlake 2.0. Wasn’t good without NBA caliber teammates.
KJ- heart breaks he got hurt but he isn’t starting at the 4 at any B12 school.
Hunt- has cement shoes, couldn’t guard a soul and was just too inconsistent. Half of his missed layups are dunks for centers with athletic ability.
Diggy- not a D1 player IMO but at least plays hard.
Flory- just needs strength and experience
AJ- seems to not give a rats ass about anything. Could’ve played his way into a draft pick with his size and athleticism. Same guy that was on/off at Wisconsin and St John. What could have been if Bill didn’t ride Rylan’s coat tails the last 2 months.
Shak-couldn’t stay healthy tho I thought when he as healthy, it was as good or better than Juan
@kjayhawks said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
@TYOHawk said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
Hate KJ got hurt.
We aren’t talented enough and that’s on the staff. The old Self would’ve recruited over a few of these guys. The new Self just tells us how much they’re winners while we get our tails kicked by any team with some decent talent.
Being real with whom we had this season it’s very true. I’m gonna give self some credit here because idk if a lot coaches get this group to the tournament tho I disagree with a lot of his coaching this season.
Juan- doesn’t start at any other school in the B12
Zeke- a top 10 3 point shooting season in ku history but lacks defense and creating his owe shott.
Rylen- spot up shooter that was too scared to shoot, basically Timberlake 2.0. Wasn’t good without NBA caliber teammates.
KJ- heart breaks he got hurt but he isn’t starting at 4 at any B12 school.
Hunt- has cement shoes, couldn’t guard a soul and was just too inconsistent. Half of his missed layups are dunks for centers with athletic ability.
Diggy- not a D1 player IMO but at least plays hard.
Flory- just needs strength and experience
AJ- seems to not give a rats ass about anything. Could’ve played his way into a draft pick with his size and athleticism. Same guy that was on/off at Wisconsin and St John. What could have been if Bill didn’t ride Rylan’s coat tsuk the last 2 months.
Shak-couldn’t stay healthy tho I thought when he as healthy, it was as good or better than Juan
I genuinely mean this with all due respect but with the resources Coach has at his disposal in regards to NIL and adidas…
How is this an acceptable roster? We might have one fringe NBA player in Flory and he’s like two years away at best.
Well crap, that was a sad ending to a sad season. Not too surprising, but I had such high expectations going into this season. Damn preseason #1 jinx. I mean usually players get better with more experience. But I think we can now definitively say - not always.
The one thing that made it a bit easier for me was that it was pretty obvious this team wasn’t going anywhere towards the latter half of the season, so I wasn’t really too upset when we lost for a change - my dog was much happier that I wasn’t yelling at the tv every game!
Well we will have a bit more of a clean slate to work with next year, hopefully BS learned some things and makes some adjustments.
So for now, Rock chalk fellow board rats, thanks for all the interesting insights, and stay well.
@rockchalkjayhawk said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
I'll list the obviously desperate acts Bill Self miraculously resorted to tonight (finally -- and they worked):
-- Zone defense. Stupid effer could have done this much earlier in the season to help us out a bit???
Smart to no give the opponents tape. Bill breaks out the zone most years in the tournament only. It messes up the other team bad - look how poorly prepared Cal was for it even though Bill has done it to him in the tournament before!
@patoh3 said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
@wissox Zuby and Udeh left because they were recruited over with more money thrown at Dickinson. That is related to coaches not assessing appropriately the ceiling that the players have and going after fool’s gold (Dickinson) when you had 2 bigs that would most likely be playing for KU if not for the portal and NIL. The only question is whether Zuby would develop into the player he currently is if he stayed at KU.
That’s a sign of the time. Before a starter would not have just tucked his tail between his legs and run off because a new player came in. That happened every offseason in college and the pros. Grow up or slink away into the void.
Zuby would have played for KU, he was a starter! He chose a path that would challenge him less. Maybe he’s overcome his pussifiacion, but I bet when push comes to shove he buckles on the court and in real life. Character matters.
@approxinfinity said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
@dylans I dont know man. Hard to argue that Zuby made the wrong choice right now.
Zuby may win a national championship, hard to argue with him leaving at this point.
I’m struggling this morning friends, 3 teams in NCAA basketball since the Ap poll released have been preseason number one and not won a tournament game. Kansas 05, UNC and us this season.
@approxinfinity Is it better to be a star for St John’s or KU? Asking for a friend.
@dylans said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
@approxinfinity Is it better to be a star for St John’s or KU? Asking for a friend.
Unfortunately right now it maybe St. John’s, they have better coaching and are playing in the big city
@kjayhawks Kansas last season is one bad foul call away from being on that list.
So at this point I have to ask is Cal a better coach than Bill? Just beat us with a 13 loss team while not having one of their best players.
@kjayhawks No he isnt. Self is still a great coach, he just struggled with roster construction the last couple of years. Hunter was an awful add if you are going to start KJ and Dejuan. You had to surround KJ/DeJuan or Hunter with shooters. Instead he played all 3 and added Storr who is a slasher and needs space and is a streaky shooter at best. Griffin to me is the red flag. He is a player that Bill Self would NEVER recruit. I'm still shocked he was on the team.
It’s just like I posted above, the last two years I’ve been screaming we can’t win playing KJ and Juan 30 minutes a game. It’s a pretty obvious assessment for anyone that knows anything about basketball. The logical conclusion is Bill felt sorry for them because of their personal struggles and rode with them anyways.
I just think Bill had a massive soft spot for KJ and DeJuan and didn't recruit over them. I kind of give the guy a pass. KJ lost his mom to cancer while at Kansas and DeJuan had a rough childhood. The roster is now a complete redo. Bill has a chance to right the ship quickly with Peterson, Flory, and some transfers. If he cant compete next year it may be time.
@BigBad I hope he actually embraces the portal and uses it to fill needs instead of trying to build around players that shouldn’t be starting at Kansas. I’ve been told by several inside sources Bill is retiring for sure within the next two seasons. I hate to fire a legend but you can only live off of yesterday’s success so long. At this point he is running this program into the earth at a rapid pace.
I disagree. We need to find the right kids out of high school, keep them around, and use the portal to fill gaps. Or use the portal to snag guys who will be here 2-3 years and not one year rentals.
Bill Self #2 all time BIG 12 coaches win percentage, Roy is First. BIG ten. With at least 100 games in the league coached Bill Self is #1 all time. Don't give me any of this crap about Bill Self. The man literally is first or second on the all time lists of two of the best leagues in the NCAA all time. I fully trust he'll get this ship righted soon.
Well there is Always what 64 ? losers at the end of the year- - just so happens we are one of those losers.- -Only ONE trophy , not 64.- -Bet there are a lot of Pissed off losers today across the Nation
Some probably standing on the edge of a cliff ready to jump- - some wanting to fire the Coach- - Some wanting whole ne rosters- - some just saying I QUIT I'm done watching Basketball, BUT YET the Sum still came up this Morning and guess what - -were still Alive and breathing- - -YES GOD is Great
KU should have 6-8 players on the roster next season that have never been apart of another college program depending on eligibility and if they stay.
Elmarko, McDowell, Flory, Passmore, Peterson, Tiller and possibly Calderon if he makes it and Clemence if he stays.
Coit and Shelby are also good locker room guys even if they aren't originally Jayhawks. Coit is a natural leader and should be the person running things in the summer when coaches can't be involved and Shelby is a high IQ practice player so really KU already has at least 8 and possibly 10 players for next season that should be able to hold newcomers accountable and up to KU standards.
I think a nucleus of Jackson, Peterson, Flory, with Diggy and Passmore rotation level back ups is a good starting point for next season.
I do think a lot of people are sleeping on what Elmarko will bring to the table next season. Every scouting report on him praised his leadership which now that he should be running the show, will come through.
I'm not saying Elmarko leads the team in scoring next season, but I could easily see him as the second leading scorer behind Peterson.
@wissox I don’t care about what he has done years ago, it’s about not ruining this program at this point. If we have yet another year like this next season are you gonna say the same? He was great one time…. So that’s means little to what has happened the past two seasons and what can happen going forward. Blind loyalty shouldn’t outweigh common sense thinking because in the end you lose. If Bill Self loses the opening weekend next season he should no longer be the head coach at the university of Kansas
@kjayhawks Sorry to say but you are so far off base in thinking they will ever fire Bill.- -Bill will leave alright but it will be on his terms, no way will he ever be fired
@SlimShaddy54 oh they’ll never fire him and there are rumors of retirement very soon. I’m just saying he should be fired without a second thought if next season mirrors the last 2.
@kjayhawks I'm all for Coach Self , but ya I think NEXT Season will be when he calls it quits.
Had heard well actually he has said at different times , when asked how much longer he wanted to Coach and his response was well I'm not in the club house but I am quite possibly on the back nine, He wants to be able to still enjoy the Grand kids and spend time with his wife Wanda ?
@SlimShaddy54 cindy
@Crimsonorblue22 Cindy , Cindy , that's right. Thank you- -- was Wanda Coach Williams wife by chance ?
@SlimShaddy54 his wife is Cindy, one of the most courageous things he could do is walk away from Kansas Basketball IMO. He was great for a time no questions, not willing to give up his 2 big philosophy and learn how to construct a roster doomed him.
@kjayhawks For a LONG TIME-- he ha done wonders for this KU program and amazes how quickly people turn from Sheep to Wolves when they don't get that 25-28 win Season- -peoples first state is DAM Fire the Coach roflmao Fire the Coach just amazing
@kjayhawks said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
I gotta say I’m shocked @kuballin10 isn’t here blowing his cork. Prob too busy helicoptering himself
lol nah saw this team and it’s coach for who they are. 2 years of the same roster running the same stuff that doesn’t work
We lost to the 9th best sec team without their best player (be like us winning yesterday without say hunt’s double double or whoever you deem our best guy) - a game we should have won by a mile
D2 turned it over along with hunt and kj down the stretch (kj obviously not after his injury which sucks for a good kid)
Bill stating kj and D2 are like sons - Bill yelling at Flory when KJ threw a bad lob pass. The list goes on and on hence the throwdown in Utah
Self’s a mess - he forces guys to fit his system instead of adjusting his system to his players strengths. He let nepotism run the program into the ground with back to back historically bad seasons for KU under Self
I wish he’d retire - because next year he will run DP with diggy (system guy and vocal leader according to the tea leaves) because the transfers will be thinking versus playing too much
We will pound it inside and try to open up the perimeter by playing inside out instead of letting stud guards dictate the game and create inside opportunities
His system he cherishes so much sucks and he has zero clue how to fix it besides just hoping guys pick it up better. In 2025 you won’t have 3 year program guys - freshman transfer or go to the league and stud transfers he treated like freshman
He’s making us Indiana and he needs to step down
Did we ever get a final KJ diagnosis? i don't see any updates anywhere.
I’ve been looking too.
@kuballin10 So you see enough to think it is hopeless as long a Self is here ?- - Hopefully cause if you have then you will leave roflmao
We will all come out ahead head, you won't have to watch , of course you don't have to now= = but yet you do, probably so you will just have something ro wine about.- -So see you leave , you win and you leave , we don't have to listen to the BS anymore- -WIN- -WIN situation.
We will make sure Coach stays that way we know for sure you will be gone-- - -AWESOME
Yikes! Starting to feel like Rupp Rafters circa 2022-2024 in here. I could have sworn we won a national championship just 3 years ago. SlimShaddy54, I very much like your idea of those who are too weak to deal maturely with loss just opting out of watching games and/or commenting.
@rockchalkjayhawk torn Achilles! Surgery this week. Last 3 mins of his KU career
@Crimsonorblue22 Thats poetic injustice. I would not be shocked to see KJ commentating some day but I hope that day is far off at the date of his choosing.
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
@rockchalkjayhawk torn Achilles! Surgery this week. Last 3 mins of his KU career
Ugh. Poor KJ.
Well we still have FOUR teams from the Big Twelve making the Sweet Sixteen, pretty strong show other then the SEC of Course but they ha Seven left- -go figure
The ACC has 18 teams, 4 in the NCAA tournament with 1 in the sweet 16, 25% ....Big12 has 16 teams, 7 in the NCAA tournament with 4 teams sweet 16, 57%... SEC has 16 teams, 14 in the NCAA tournament with 7 teams sweet 16, 50%........Big10 has 18 teams, 8 in the NCAA with 4 teams in the sweet 16, 50%
@indku1972 welcome new poster!
@indku1972 Well looks like that puts us with the Biggest % then , that's good news