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So KU has a game today... and tomorrow.. and Wednesday apparently.

Notre Dame, Syracuse then, who knows ? Who we play on Wednesday depends on:

Each team will play three guaranteed games. Following the conclusion of each team's second game, the win-loss records will determine who makes a trip to the championship game or the third-place game on Nov. 26. Teams that don't make the championship or third-place games will play in consolation games.

Championship game is scheduled for 9:30 EST Wednesday night. 3rd place game before that. Console games are mostly Wednesday but potential for Turkey Day as well.

I see KU gets $1 million in NIL for playing. I wonder how much of that is going to Peterson who won't even play. Only sort of kidding there. As I was writing this, I saw the Big-12 entered into some agreement today with this tournament going forward, ensuring 8 automatic spots for Big-12 teams. Can't be a bad thing besides having to play teams in the Big-12 even more. Not sure that's smartly planned out but who cares the schools getting a fat check.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/47085242/big-12-players-era-sign-50m-hoops-deal-nil-payouts ↗

Feels like we majorly lucked out on opponent in both known games. Here's a list of teams in it. A good portion of these teams would beat KU if we played them without Peterson. Some of them probably even with.

Alabama
Auburn
Baylor
Creighton
Gonzaga
Houston
Iowa State
Kansas
Maryland
Michigan
Notre Dame
Oregon
Rutgers
San Diego State
St. John's
Syracuse
UNLV
Tennessee

No idea what to expect today. Notre Dame is ranked #73 via Kenpom. Burton is an All-ACC guard in his 3rd season. He has led them in 4 of 5 games scoring. They lost by 1 to Ohio St, otherwise they have beaten no one. They shoot 40% from 3, just a few more makes on same volume as KU, so they don't seem to live and die by the perimeter. Carson Towt has been a dominate rebounder so far (4th nationally at 12.5 a game).

This looks like a game that KU is just going to have to enforce their athletic advantage. ND only has 6 blocked shots so far in 5 games so it would seem we can exploit them at the rim. They are a very young team as well. Looks like they have played a lot of guys (11 at 8mpg or more) so far.

Seems like a winnable game today but I doubt it will be easy. We have to prove we can beat someone with a pulse first. Tomorrow is harder, Cuse is #61 on Kenpom with similar ranked offense. Another winnable game but will the guys have enough in the tank with our depth issues already popping up. Going to be interesting to see how these guys survive 3 games in 3 days.

I'm a little bummed i couldn't get to Vegas this year to watch the Hawks. The tickets ain't cheap though!

We went last year to the Duke game. That was a ton of fun.

As for the games, i don't know what to expect either. If we play hard like we did last week, we have a chance in all.

btw, we dropped out of the Top 25 today. sigh.

I have to go out until later. Amari gets 8 pts and we hit 8 thrtees. O/U? Have fun.

We look terrible. Notre Dame clearly wants it more

Watching every KU game without DP is like watching a guy fight with a arm tied behind his back

Defense is optional today so far. Until they settle in and make some havoc we will continue to play behind once again

If our game plan on d is to have Burton switched onto our bigs every possession I might as well turn this off. Amateur hour defensive scheme

We have not beaten a major conference team so far.

Was that foul really on Flory? WHat did he do?

Bidunga foul trouble again. Good job flory

@wissox

Clobbered the guy at the rim

And 1 ref. You blind

2 on Tiller already. What a theme every game

Wow, how about an intentional foul too?

Wow flory. Big time and intentional foul

Flory is truly an incredible athlete

It just feels like we'll get back from break and they won't even mention the intentional.

It was a very polite flagrant at least

Shocking they got it right. Ok

Wow! 6 pt possession

Missed rosario, Tre~~y~~

Nice job flory. Free throws..

White and Flory dominating. Great to see

You cant play mari. Stop bill

Sucks that Dawson got hurt. Watching Jamari is a horrible viewing experience

Defense definitely enforcing their will

Bout time they called a foul on flory man. Fouled him entire possession

Surprisingly we are playing together. No TOs

Crazy we are extending the lead playing 3 and 4 on 5 on offense. If you know, you know.

Kohl and the bench are still scoreless

@stoptheflop

Get used to it. We only have 4 guys who can score

Has to be excruciating for DP to watch up close

Can't let down now. Momentum shifting

3 on 5 lineup. Redic

UGH 1/6 from 3. Only 6 shots in almost 18 min

No fouls Flory

If Council cant make that in-rythm 3. Yikes

Good elmarko and bad elmarko

Glad to see one fall for any guard

Unreal

I turned 70 last week. I hope we score at least that many and more today

That doesn't look fun for Tre

Ugly end to it. Had them on the ropes and now it will be tight

Bench at 20 minutes 3 pts and 2 assists. Nothing good to say so just leave it there

@BeddieKU23 Other than next man up

Need Tre White to be okay

@BeddieKU23 said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

Ugly end to it. Had them on the ropes and now it will be tight

What happens when you play Jamari and sit Flory basically. Gotta keep guys fresh for this so I get it. Thankfully some weaker opponents to start and Syracuse just announced their best player won't play in this event.

@BShark I think he’s tough!

RIP Jimmy Cliff
Have 4 of his albums that he signed for me in Austin during SXSW and a kiss on the cheek.

Our condolences to the family and loved ones of brother
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

@BShark I think he’s tough!

Hopefully not a broken nose is the main thing.

He might need a Cole Aldrich/Phantom of the Opera type mask

Yikes kohl

Nice

Tiller needs to be aggressive

Council may never make a three

Council cant shoot. How do we do this evrry yr

We better score on this possession because we are looking like we bout to give this up

Tre looked hesitant when the ball was down low

@BShark he made one last game

Council is 27% career from three. Not great, but better than his 7% he's shooting this year so far.

Finally

Gotta keep shooting it LOL

Yes

Big one from council. He really is tyshawn

Pretty too

Two man game between Tiller and Flory has been #fun Vintage Bill

@BShark u ok?

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

@BShark u ok?

What do you mean?

Every time Flory comes out we suck

What the hell. Stop jacking threes

@BShark council shooting

Did burton walk?

three terrible shots in a row. Let them back in it again

Fake foul just to keep the game close. Good grief

@RockChalkinTexas said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

Every time Flory comes out we suck

Jamari and Elmarko combo into the game at the same time as well. Immediately give up a run to ND.

@BShark

At this point Bill does it on purpose. Yes let's literally put two guys in who can't do anything

who is #6?

@DanR

Calderon

Must have been a good buffet at at halftime. Guys look like they need naps.

Travel. They tied up theirselves you blind guys

shooting % went down on that possession for ND

Pathetic

Tiller is big time

Pretty nice by tiller after running up and down the court ten times

Tiller was here last year for a semester and it has helped. He's gaining confidence

Jamari wouldn't even start for Stephen F Austin

Yeah he has blown away all the expectations I had for him

Yeah Tiller has been a wonderful surprise

Wow that's a terrible sequence. Throw it into a triple team then give them a 3 pt play For NOTHING

Big time shot Tre

Mari finally did something

refs haven't called anything all half

dont stall, Bill good god

Mari just needed more time to shine, guys.

Slandered Jamari into doing something good

Great shot Mari. Saved the game

Bidunga, Tiller and White is a pretty solid front line. 49 pts and 25 boards among them.

Bidunga staying out of foul trouble helps

@BeddieKU23 said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

Bidunga staying out of foul trouble helps

Yeah our best player when Darryn is out

Not sure Bill has ever practiced getting the ball in

They definitely don't seem ready for a press

Maybe throw it to one of the two tall guys?

Comical

Mari took a nice charge there

Tre is tough

I forgot that point difference matters for this

Margin of victory matters

Tre must have gashed the bridge of his nose. Bleeding trough the bandage. That is going to hurt like a mofo later

Soft touch Flory.

I like ND coach. I'm happy with the W. Rock chalk!

Flory 18/9/5/5 WOW

I do not agree with you guys that Jamari is terrible. Is he "meh"? Yeah. But not terrible.

Solid win but we got lucky that ND couldn’t throw it in the ocean

As long as DP comes back healthy we may look back at this stretch as critical. Tre and Tiller have really come along and Melvin had to learn and grow being the primary handler.

@RockChalkinTexas said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

I turned 70 last week. I hope we score at least that many and more today

Barely

@RockChalkinTexas said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

I turned 70 last week. I hope we score at least that many and more today

My mom turns 70 next month. I am taking her out for a nice dinner to her favorite restaurant.

Good enough to win today at least. Heavy minutes from the starters is the only concern for tomm

@BeddieKU23 said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

Good enough to win today at least. Heavy minutes from the starters is the only concern for tomm

Yeah I complain about Jamari and Elmarko but they have to play in these games. Bench gave us next to nothing. Didn't help that Dawson got hurt. Syracuse without their best player is a must win.

Kohl wasn't even a factor.

Wasn't able to watch. Just looking at the box score. Based on it, only real concern is absolutely nothing from Kohl - no points, no rebounds and three fouls in 19 minutes.

Kohl will be a great player one day. I don't know when that day is coming. It could be in a couple weeks or it could be a couple years.

@RockChalkinTexas said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

Kohl wasn't even a factor.

Kohl: 19 min, 1 missed 3, 1 asst and 3 fouls. Jeez.

Players who showed out today: Flory (duh), Tiller, except he needs to stop shooting 3's even if the announcers try telling us he's good at shooting it from out there. Tre White is surprising me with his toughness. Council has some surprising athleticism. Even the underachieving 11 and 13 guys played decently I thought and made a 3 a piece and played some nice defense at times.

ND should have stopped shooting 3's. They weren't even close on most of those. They weren't a very good looking team to be honest, but it's always good to beat Notre Dame in any sport.

Oh, and I should register my protest of playing a college game on a court that has the word bet on it. Gambling is eroding the integrity of sports and I hate to see it tempting 18 year olds who have bucketloads of money and presumably some free time during their time in Vegas.

Im going to watch the replay now, fast forward through the ads and let yall know when im caught up

@DCHawker

Didn't really do much. Self went to the bench in 2nd half

When Bidunga went coast to coast for an and 1 after stuffing their guard it should have been a clear path foul on their guard

@BShark

Bench saved their bacon in 2nd half.

@wissox said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

Players who showed out today: Flory (duh), Tiller, except he needs to stop shooting 3's even if the announcers try telling us he's good at shooting it from out there. Tre White is surprising me with his toughness. Council has some surprising athleticism. Even the underachieving 11 and 13 guys played decently I thought and made a 3 a piece and played some nice defense at times.

ND should have stopped shooting 3's. They weren't even close on most of those. They weren't a very good looking team to be honest, but it's always good to beat Notre Dame in any sport.

Bill Self toughening box! Tre has been something else since the UNC game where he played pretty soft.

I hear you on Notre Dame. I can't stand them.

@BShark We drove over to South Bend recently and walked around campus. Beautiful place, but their athletic arrogance is 2nd to none, and really hasn't been earned in the last 30 years or so.

Jalen Rose and Chris Weber in the same studio?
$$$$$

@BShark

White has been really good and stepped up his play. Plays hard all the time.

Flory Bidunga Highlights vs. Notre Dame (18 Pts, 9 Rebs, 5 Blks)

Bryson Tiller Highlights vs. Notre Dame (17 Pts, 9 Rebs, 2 Blks)

We got lazy and tired feeding the post or this was a 20 point win.

Really hope this stretch without DP is a net positive and forces some growth.

Good win though! Liked the energy.

Awesome block by Jamari on Bird

Cuse really hanging with Houston. That's worrisome for tomm

Melvin, Tre, DP, Bryson, Flory…. Feeling like a strong ass five by seasons end right now.

@BeddieKU23 I think Houston might just not be all that great from what I've seen of them a few times already this year..

You plug in DP over Rosario and we are a problem for any team. We have been calling on Tre to be as good as he was last year and he is proving to be even better I mean a big guard who can score inside and get tough rebounds. We didn't know what we were going to get in Tiller but I don't think we expected a dominating paint player like this. Over the summer pundits said Flory would be one of the most improved centers this year but his stat line today was holy smokes. So Melvin Counsel Jr comes along and asserts himself today and shows his natural gifts are under control and flourishing. Our defense is pretty darn good also.

Happy to see Flory all smiles and friendly, hugging Notre Dame players after the game. Kid is flying high right now.

Watching Bill engage with this team in the huddle I think he is really into it and likes them. And the players are having some fun and believing in themselves.

Hopefully we benefit from tired legs from Cuse going to OT. They look really tough

@BShark I will say Jamari played hard nosed and fearless today.

Houston is a great team. Some November struggles are nothing to sound alarms over

Well the Big Twelve went 4-0 in the tourney today, Ku should benefit with all these dang rules in this tourney- As we won by the biggest separation-- --we won by Ten- - Baylor won by Seven----Iowa St won by one & Houston won by like Five.

So do I have this right, if your not one of the top four teams that has played then you play again Thursday ?

Keys to beating Syracuse tomorrow :- - -Take care of the ball---Syracuse presses most of the game- - -Gotta hit the boards -- -Got to defend the three, and hope that they just don't go white hot from the line, be our luck they won't miss period after that display today , Hope they shoot FT like they did today

@BShark I don't think they are either. I mean they are good , but this is not last years team for sure

@BeddieKU23 said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

Cuse really hanging with Houston. That's worrisome for tomm

Very concerned with the zone. Expectations are low

@Jhawk69 that was partially due to our defense

Eight blocks today we are ranked 13 th in the Nation with block shots , think they said averaging 6.4 per game and we lead the big twelve in blocks

Plus we had a lot of clean blocks against Duke that were incorrectly called as fouls

@approxinfinity He played at LaLumiere right down the road from South Bend. I really should get over there and watch a game, but they charge like college prices to get in so i'll skip.

This tournament is getting ripped on social media. It's essentially killed Maui and the Bahamas thing. And while Vegas does have some good matchups the gyms are woefully uncrowded. In addition the tournament format is confusing, apparently point differential is a thing? A point differential in Vegas? Hmmm. Sounds like a kid or coach could be on the receiving end of some money....or death threats for helping or messing up someones bet.

@wissox said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

This tournament is getting ripped on social media. It's essentially killed Maui and the Bahamas thing. And while Vegas does have some good matchups the gyms are woefully uncrowded. In addition the tournament format is confusing, apparently point differential is a thing? A point differential in Vegas? Hmmm. Sounds like a kid or coach could be on the receiving end of some money....or death threats for helping or messing up someones bet.

Right an NIL tournament for money in Vegas with the point spread being the main focus. Doesn’t sound fishy at all. I miss the old days so much

For those interested in Jayden Dawson.

"X-rays are still pending," Self said. "Apparently, he hurt it dunking in warmups, so it's his right wrist. So, I bet he's doubtful for the [Players Era Festival], but I do not know that for a fact. But he went in today and then obviously said he couldn't go, so that was disappointing because we're kind of short-handed right now."

Kid can't catch a break. Need him out there.

@BeddieKU23 said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

We look terrible. Notre Dame clearly wants it more

This is why I usually don't comment during games... especially KU. We like to start slow. Seems to be a Bill thing.

I kind of understand why. Maybe it's harder when you get out fast. Then you have to live up to the expectations for the rest of the game, and it always feels like your opponent is creeping up on you.

When you are down (only a reasonable amount), you have a definite goal and motivation.

PS: having one of those days! lol

Started fast against duke

@wissox said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

This tournament is getting ripped on social media. It's essentially killed Maui and the Bahamas thing. And while Vegas does have some good matchups the gyms are woefully uncrowded. In addition the tournament format is confusing, apparently point differential is a thing? A point differential in Vegas? Hmmm. Sounds like a kid or coach could be on the receiving end of some money....or death threats for helping or messing up someones bet.

Capitalism 🤷‍♂️

@Kcmatt7 that’s the problem there’s no basketball fans in Vegas. Supposedly the b12 has an agreement to play a number of games each season in MSG and I’m like why? No fan base is even close to the NYC and in this economy who can afford to go watch a game there? At one point they were talking about the conference tournament there. KC is the perfect spot and always has been. OKC and Dallas the place was empty 90% of the time.

Vegas has been dead for over a year!

I tell ya, that Duke game last year in Vegas was jam packed!

But yesterday's crowd was minimal for sure. I think people have the time, money and energy to see their teams play one big game in Vegas, but asking them to shell out three or four days and big bucks may be too much to ask.

That being said, i've done that for Maui a few times. Aloha!

Jamari is starting today

Signing off!

Ugly game shaping up. Both teams hold opponents below 40% and 30% shooting percentage. A slow start and trying to play catch up against teams like these makes keeping it close sounds wise.

Flory's game has improved so much.

Shut up Robbie, it was right over the top of the goal.

Jamari already in ? Wow. And draining 3s. Double wow

I'm still pissed we lost to these guys with Collison and Heinrich and Lee and langford and Miles and so many others.

Our only points are from inbound plays or offensive rebounds. Yikes.

@approxinfinity I think he started. It seems like the lightbulb is going on for him which if there's any time for it it's now because he's not on the floor if DP is healthy.

Mari over Kohl is something

Tiller got fouled on that drive.

Bindunga Bucks. Money.

@rockchalkjayhawk I was at the Duke game last year, it felt like a tournament atmosphere inside the arena. I also went to a session of the Player's Era last year because ticket prices were relatively cheap.

I had a chance to get presale tickets this year because of going to the Duke game last year and didn't. Last year I flew out on Sunday and flew home on Wednesday and was able to get heavily discounted room with my Caesar's Rewards point and only had to lay the resort fees.

Because of the schedule this year, I would've had to fly out on Sunday and fly home Friday this year to make all 3 games because of not knowing when game 3 would take place. I don't think a lot of people want to spend their Thanksgiving in Vegas. I didn't have the points to get a comped room so I would've had to pay for 5 nights this year. If you haven't been to Vegas recently, everything on the Strip has become extremely expensive. It would've cost me about triple what I spent last year to go and with Notre Dame and Syracuse being underwhelming opponents, I couldn't justify it this year.

Tre White reminds me those tough Illinois guards Self abandoned when he came to KU. Its probably the corn rows.

Flory is a DUDE

@approxinfinity Derron Williams was a stud. If White plays that well we're gonna cook this season! Dee Brown was a great guard too.

If Self had stayed at Illinois he'd have recruited the heck out of Illinois like he was doing then. I think he'd have multiple championships and maybe we'd have less. No way Sherron's coming to KU if Self had stayed in Champagn.

Score? At school

@Crimsonorblue22 16-10 good guys.

Rosario missed the switch.

Don't we have a player named justin cross? If so why hasn't he played?

Walk on

@Texas-Hawk-10 lame. Vegas on Thanksgiving reminds me of https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/a30315437/its-a-wonderful-life-pottersville-better-than-bedford-falls/ ↗

@wissox yup Luther Head as well

Kohl

@approxinfinity Forgot him. Dang they were good.

Kohl Cash!

@wissox score?

Run run run. Lets never not recruit athletes again

@Crimsonorblue22 21-14

@Crimsonorblue22. 21-14 free throws

@wissox haha took me it a second. It was dee brown not doc brown, doc brown was the doc in back to the future :)

@RockChalkinTexas Coach was cussing after we had to take timeout trapped after crossing

Time left, hoping to get home for 2nd half

@Crimsonorblue22 Slow half, 9 minutes left.

Bidunga is giving them the Hakim Warrick treatment!

There's something wrong when Council has taken as many shots as Flory

@wissox He may be Tyshawn like but he's no BIFM

Seven bench points.

Playing these guys you need to grind all game

Tr3

Council does have 4 assists

Jamari!!!!

Nice Take Jamari!

Who's the short guy who tried to shoot amoung the trees?

We are making it hard for them! Loving it

Mari being a +9 when he was in yesterday was good to see

Gee Ngyia @wissox

Jamari is showing some serious heart.

This team is improving the way I have come to expect Self's teams to gel as the season progresses. I feel like we're back.

Flory stay in your lane!

@Crimsonorblue22 30 - 20

Our defense against guard oriented teams has been very good.

Sidenote: enjoying Pluribus on Apple TV.

Their D thrives on TO's.

@approxinfinity I don't know what that means.

@wissox its a tv show

@approxinfinity Aging boomer question!

Not sure about that travel tbh

Who identified tre white and melvin council as targets?

Too many turnovers.

@BShark Streaming service replay capabilities seriously are lacking compared to what I used to have with DirectTV

Good pass Flory

Air Ball

Flory's post game interview yesterday at the desk with the studio guys was great. he's got a great personality, smiles a lot.

@wissox gave him his props

Finally caught up. VERY pleased thus far. 7 bench points this half a nice surprise.

Two 0 second on the shot clock threes is so funny

I'm outraged that as physical as Syracuse is they're not over the limit on fouls.

Cuse having to play OT later than us yesterday is going to be a factor 2nd half and the physicality of Houston too on them.

We're killing them on the boards 26-11, but we have 7 turnovers and they have 0 along with 9 points off of KU TOs.

So... pretty much the score you'd expect. I think Mari has done decent enough

The good, Flory near a double double already. The bad he has 4 turnovers because he became a really tall guard the last half of the half.

The good. Tiller 4-6.

The good, i mean the bad. Council 0-7, has taken the most shots amongst anyone. Sometimes that's a misleading stat but today he's earned that halo by missing shots at the rim.

The goodish Jamari is figuring it out. The bad, El Marko isn't.

The great: 26 rebounds to 11 for them.

The really bad: We're not getting to see this develop with DP.

More White and Flory, less Council is what I'd council.

@wissox actually it's counsel

@RockChalkinTexas I knew it didn't look right!

Mari 3

@RockChalkinTexas said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

Mari 3

Jam3!

@wissox said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

@RockChalkinTexas I knew it didn't look right!

The KUBuckets Supreme Council counsels Council to take fewer perimeter shots and feed the bigs...

@BShark 11

Flory hasn't scored in a long while

@stoptheflop We're not trying to get it inside to him.

What a bogus whistle.

pretty sure he took a couple extra steps too

@wissox said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

@stoptheflop We're not trying to get it inside to him.

For some reason the team seems to get bored with that

need to drive and dish to Flo

Tre going one on four LOL

You can bloody a guys nose and not get a foul called if you're a Jayhawk White proved yesterday.

Elmarko that's why it says 4 under minutes played by your name.

I've seen enough Elmarko for a lifetime

How about calling it a foul on syracuse instead.

Yeah, calling a foul would have avoided some confusion. But Syracuse doesn't foul.

@DanR said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

Yeah, calling a foul would have avoided some confusion. But Syracuse doesn't foul.

Or turn it over...

Very bad line-up in right now

I'm getting a bit pissed at these refs. They committed 3 fouls to burn fouls at the end of the half. Take those away and it's only 6 on them all game.

Elmarko has commited 6 or 7 fouls though, and the refs are letting those slide, so we're even.

@BShark said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

Very bad line-up in right now

Got off of it VERY quickly. Thanks Bill.

Yesterday ND was like 4-25 on 3's against us. Today orange is 4-19.

Odd game. We're not forcing any TOs, but committing bad ones. If we took better care of the ball, we could be up close to 20. On the other hand, Cuse is getting into the lane pretty easily, but missing shots, are we are not letting them get many second chances...

That was a foul?

Just grab Tiller and throw him around and it's no foul.

tiller got pulled down in the paint

Replay just showed of long hair dude just throwing jamari aside for the loose ball.

Why can't we handle the press better?

Siiiiigh, good time out Bill.

Gotta run some offense at some point

Flory still scoreless this half. Kyle is doing a good job on him.

Us forcing a single turnover is wild

Vintage Bill Self would have an alley oop play out of the time out

@kjayhawks said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

Us forcing a single turnover is wild

It’s really crazy, but doesn’t tell the whole story. Our length is really bothering them at the rim

@RockChalkinTexas said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

Why can't we handle the press better?

Lack of true PG?

That's what happens when you don't call any fouls on orange. You call one and the guy is just shocked, shocked I'm telling you, as shocked as a Franklin Kite in a thunderstorm.

Council is bound to start finishing some of those slashes. Maybe playing primary ball handler affects his shooting bandwidth.

Brutal loss, disgusting

THIS is where DP would be so important. Your go to bucket guy late like this

@BShark said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

Brutal loss, disgusting

Who? Us? I remember you typing that in early April 2022!!

Wow that's an ugly FT

He shoots FT worse than Doke

Trey White was always meant to be a Jayhawk.

Ha ha Melo

Upset over Kansas? We have the worse record! Playing without our superstar.

We need Tr3. He's got 3 fouls

I guess they called a foul on Council while Kohl was getting stomped on

AIR BALL

I have not seen that in a long long time with missing the front rim on a FT.

Baylor down

Man if Council starts finishing, she will be great

@patoh3 said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

I have not seen that in a long long time with missing the front rim on a FT.

I sure enjoyed it though!

Yes that was a foul

Council has half court moves.

What’s the word on Dawson’s wrist?

Very good win. McDowell earning more minutes

@Crimsonorblue22 hurt it in warmups yesterday

Yeah, but how bad is it

@Kcmatt7 How far am I behind on my stream? Got 1:47 left

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

Yeah, but how bad is it

I thought I saw xray was negative but could be wrong

@DanR said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

@Kcmatt7 How far am I behind on my stream? Got 1:47 left

It’s not over but it’s over

@Kcmatt7 I haven't recovered from the Michigan game in 2013 or whatever

Clock is our friend!

@DanR you aren’t far

@Kcmatt7 said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

@DanR said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

@Kcmatt7 How far am I behind on my stream? Got 1:47 left

It’s not over but it’s over

You have more confidence than I do in our ability to inbound the ball against pressure...

We’ve been there.Houston. 🤮🤮🤮

FLAGRANT ORANGE

Boo

Kind of an obvious yank IMO

@Crimsonorblue22 same

If that’s not a hook and hold wtf is?

Wtf that’s why the rule is in place what a fucking joke

@DanR pulled his arm out

@wissox said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

@BShark said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

Brutal loss, disgusting

Who? Us? I remember you typing that in early April 2022!!

Doing my usual jinxing XD

Council at least makes FTs

@wissox said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

Wow that's an ugly FT

Kyle kid might have the worst ft shot I have ever seen

@Kcmatt7 said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

Trey White was always meant to be a Jayhawk.

Love him

I think we actually got a useful pair with Council and White. I like both of those guys, and I hate transfers in general.

Ridiculous this is even a game, piss poor officiating. They just throwing up crap from distance but yet have way more freethrows than us going to the rim and they’re fouling on purpose the last 3 trips.

Who taught him to shoot FT’s?

Dawson has a bandaid under wrap?

Rosario is a beast

Heck of a win all things considered

@Crimsonorblue22 I never heard what happened to Dawson, but he had a weird bump on his hand when he was going to the locker yesterday.

They literally tried to foul us 4 times on that trip and they still wouldn’t call it, wonder what the alternative spread was?

@kjayhawks said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

Ridiculous this is even a game, piss poor officiating. They just throwing up crap from distance but yet have way more freethrows than us going to the rim and they’re fouling on purpose the last 3 trips.

They missed a couple earlier that were just insane. One where Tiller got hammered and another where Jamari was discarded to the ground.

Love the group interview. This team seems like, uh, an actual team...

I'll appreciate every win we get without DP

Nice to see some JOY in the players. Now work on inbounding the ball and breaking the press.

When do we find out when next game is?

Mari unsung hero - unexpected 34 minutes - zero TOs and a couple of key buckets...

My apologies to Jamari he was fine today

Tre White 8.4 rebounds a game after the UNC game. #noticing

@BShark

Dawg

Seems like we got a good shot at top 4. Kohl's garbage time dunk pushed us ahead of Iowa State

@RockChalkinTexas said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

When do we find out when next game is?

Going to be a later one

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"Final is 9:30 ET, third place game is 7 ET. Think Kansas is guaranteed in one of those"

Who you rooting for Cougars or Vols?

I hate how it’s not a true tournament and we could miss out from the title game by only winning both games by double digits lol

Nice to see Jamari doing well with some extended run time. Seems to be a real Jayhawk. Took a redshirt year knowing he will likely always be recruited over. Bet he’ll be Kohl’s loudest supporter when Kohl regains the starting lineup. Don’t see much of that in this NIL era.

Jamari>Elmarko by a wide margin at this point.

@wissox said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

I'm still pissed we lost to these guys with Collison and Heinrich and Lee and langford and Miles and so many others.

Two teams ND and Cuse kept coming at us over and over and they'd get it to five or seven but we fought them off with a team that has only played a few games together. Impressive. These types of games probably will pay dividends. Flory what the heck you are playing like a top AA and turn it over seven times.

@kjayhawks said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

Jamari>Elmarko by a wide margin at this point.

30+ DP minutes to distribute and Elmarko gets only 8. Speaks volumes at this point...

Vols and we handled Syracuse better than Houston.

@ImmunoHawk He showed up on both ends. Tough

@kjayhawks said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

Jamari>Elmarko by a wide margin at this point.

Yep, not close. Would much rather see Jamari out there. Once Darryn and JD are healthy we could ideally see Elmarko not play...

Tre White Highlights vs. Syracuse (15 Pts, 10 Rebs, 3 Asts)

Tiller makes a ton of difference for Flory as teams cannot fudge because Tiller requires a lot of attention. Tre White's size advantage when he gets to the rim is score or foul him and fouling him is a bad idea and he can bang and board and will do that. Melvin is going to start hitting threes better than now. Plus he plays hard and unselfishly. Tiller can be a 20 and 10 guy can he not? What will we be with DP? Damn good that's what. Chemistry is evident. Who of these has made the most difference? Doesn't matter.

@Zabudda does not matter at all. Hope the bench doesnt get complacent and stays sharp. Steel sharpens steel.

@approxinfinity Tre White was someone KU recruited out of high school and I believe committed to KU at one point before going his odyssey. With Council, KU was initially looking at a different player at St. Bonnie's, but ended up loving Council more.

@BShark said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

@wissox said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

Wow that's an ugly FT

Kyle kid might have the worst ft shot I have ever seen

I can make em with my eyes closed. Muscle memory

@Texas-Hawk-10 two really great gets, good chemistry + talent guys

@kjayhawks said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

I hate how it’s not a true tournament and we could miss out from the title game by only winning both games by double digits lol

I don't care about the championship here, I want KU to play a good team because Notre Dame and Syracuse are unlikely to make the NCAA Tournament. I'd much rather see KU play Michigan, Gonzaga, or Auburn to close it out and get another game against a really good team to help Flory and Tiller play without fouling.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

@approxinfinity Tre White was someone KU recruited out of high school and I believe committed to KU at one point before going his odyssey. With Council, KU was initially looking at a different player at St. Bonnie's, but ended up loving Council more.

Correct he committed to KU very early on in high school and it didn't stick.

The staff received a recommendation on Lajae Jones (ended up at FSU, KU passed) and Council really stood out when they watched. I do actually know the guy that passed along with Lajae rec, not sure if I'd say friend but we are cordial with each other.

@approxinfinity said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

@Texas-Hawk-10 two really great gets, good chemistry + talent guys

The portal has been a positive this time I'd say. Two very good players and there is still a chance with JD. His wrist/hand injury was really unfortunate as I felt he was coming along a bit.

@Zabudda said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

Two teams ND and Cuse kept coming at us over and over and they'd get it to five or seven but we fought them off with a team that has only played a few games together. Impressive. These types of games probably will pay dividends. Flory what the heck you are playing like a top AA and turn it over seven times.

While Flory did have 7 turnovers, he only had 2 fouls. I'll take that trade. Keeps him on the floor.

14 rebounds is pretty good too.

@DCHawker nice pNR pass too

@sabramo19 needs a bandaid!

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

@kjayhawks said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

I hate how it’s not a true tournament and we could miss out from the title game by only winning both games by double digits lol

I don't care about the championship here, I want KU to play a good team because Notre Dame and Syracuse are unlikely to make the NCAA Tournament. I'd much rather see KU play Michigan, Gonzaga, or Auburn to close it out and get another game against a really good team to help Flory and Tiller play without fouling.

For sure this tournament means very little in the big picture but as Self would say “We gotta play so we may as well win”

@BeddieKU23 Yes he is , he really has done more then I expected, didn't think h would be that much of aa scorer. I love the way he takes the ball to the hole, and plays through contact- --really scraps for rebounds just complete player, has become one of my favorite players

I’ll take beating a power 4 team by double digits down a starter all day on a neutral floor. Thats the thing with this group, they are improving and haven’t came close to their ceiling. Last two years we were who we were in November so we beat teams like UConn and Duke with experience over 18 and 19 year olds. But we never got any better, Hunt couldn’t guard anyone, Juan refused to shoot and we had no threat from 3 point land. This years team would spank and the last two teams by 20 plus prob right now but without question by seasons end. Nice to actually enjoy watching KU basketball.

Thought they were gonna keep conference teams apart? Could it be tennesse?

@Crimsonorblue22 don’t think it can be Houston with them losing

I think there is an outside chance we could play ISU, Baylor and Houston with loses won’t be in the top 2

I think it’s the 2-0 teams plus points

Michigan zags win?

Michigan probably gonna be top, 28 pts ahead at half

Right now I believe it would be Michigan #1 and us 2 from what I’m seeing not sure tho

Okay looking at an update looks like it’s most likely Gonzaga vs Michigan for the title and us versus Tennessee for third unless something crazy happens.

we've played Tennessee in Maui, Atlantis and now probably Vegas all within the last 5 years

@rcjhdraft seems like they have kicked our butts a lot of memory serves me right

@kjayhawks yeah we've lost to them both times. Third time's the charm?

Zags are ahead of us in pts. Their game isn’t over.

So we play Tennessee next? Confusing. Oh, and AI sucks. I’ve seen like three different, opposing summaries of who is in the championship game. Weird.

Fans of other teams and journalists getting mad when everyone knew the rules beforehand is very stupid. Teams were leaving in their starters late BECAUSE margin mattered...

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/players-era-format-needs-to-be-tweaked-in-order-for-event-to-reach-its-full-potential-in-2026-and-beyond/ ↗

I don't care whether we are in the "championship game" or not. I just want us to win.

Agreed, and don't get why fans/journalists are getting mad about the rules now. Maybe casual fans hear that a team was crowned the players era champ and that carries some marketing weight, but that is going to be a small set of people. Difference between the teams that go 3-0 really doesn't mean anything in the long run. I was also under the impression that the current players are the ones that miss out on the prize money, so not like this goes into NIL budget for you to recruit for next year.

I would understand if the players missing out on money are a little upset about though.

Money!

@kjayhawks Selective memory! We actually played them in Hawaii I think in the Maui two seasons ago. It says Honolulu, but I think that was after the fires. We beat them by nine. The two previous meetings were ugly, but we're 5-3 in the series this century. That's a lot of meetings for a team that's not in our conference but we can expect another tough one today and wouldn't be surprised to see us lose nor would I be surprised to see us win.

Rothstein tweeted out the schedule for today and it showed KU game at 4. Everywhere else is saying 6 including KUathletics. Just highlights the confusion of this weird event.

those rothstein times are mountain time zone

@rcjhdraft No, then it would say 5 oclock.

@wissox said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

@kjayhawks Selective memory! We actually played them in Hawaii I think in the Maui two seasons ago. It says Honolulu, but I think that was after the fires. We beat them by nine. The two previous meetings were ugly, but we're 5-3 in the series this century. That's a lot of meetings for a team that's not in our conference but we can expect another tough one today and wouldn't be surprised to see us lose nor would I be surprised to see us win.

Looks like they have beaten us 2 of the last 3 and I think I’m remembering them destroying us in Knoxville a few years ago.

@BShark said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

Fans of other teams and journalists getting mad when everyone knew the rules beforehand is very stupid. Teams were leaving in their starters late BECAUSE margin mattered...

ISU fans are losing their minds on X right now. I personally don’t like the format even a little bit it’s ridiculously confusing. But as you said everyone agreed to it coming in. I be fine with never playing in this again but with the money up for grabs, I’d bet we are there a lot in the coming years.

Houston was ranked 3, they should have won. I like it, this yr! Great money!

Edit: Omg, I’ve seen three different starting times!

Ignore this for now!

Looks like a 2 pm start in Lawrence time vs Tennessee.

From the Players Era website on game time:

Third place: No. 17 Tennessee vs. Kansas, 7 p.m. Eastern time | TNT

I might be in the minority here, but I don't really care whether our players get a little richer or not. Hell, if anything them winning less money may make them hungrier to win in March when you can really make a killing off of NIL.

I assume it goes to our program. TV guide says 6

Anything new on Jayden Dawson’s wrist injury? I heard he won’t be playing any more in this tourney.

@wissox 4 is local time in Vegas.

@rcjhdraft said in Players Era Bologna Tourney:

those rothstein times are mountain time zone

Vegas is Pacific time zone, not Mountain.

Poor Syracuse. The Big XII invited them to Thanksgiving dinner and they got feasted on. If you are on the Kansas roster but not currently in the rotation there is still room for you. Say hay Samis we can use a super athletic 6'8" wing who plays above the rim.

@kjayhawks You nailed it

When was the last game we were +20 in rebounds. Nice job. We have played seven games and Tiller is already an impact player. Is there anyway he doesn't remain a starter? We can see how he handles a physical game against a Rick Barnes led team.

Two guys that concern me with Tennessee one --- Gillispie just really good,

& even bigger then him is worried about their big boy his girth pretty solid afraid he might just play bully ball and either one will give Bryson or Flory fits and get them in foul trouble, can' match his physicality

@Zabudda Yes, Tiller will remain a starter and it will likely be Rosario/McDowell coming off the bench whenever Peterson returns (hopefully against UConn).

@Texas-Hawk-10 how do they use the money? It's not split between players?

@SlimShaddy54 Ament is a 6'11" 207 freshman top recruit who had a lousy shooting game against Houston. He can score board and pass. Their roster is loaded with two more 6'11" 245 bruisers who score and board. Barnes said in the off season they would focus on getting an inside game and they did. They got their scoring down low against Houston while avenging last years loss. They have a big guard lock down defender in 6'4" Boswell. They are a much different team than Syracuse and shoot shoot FG's at 50% and 36% from three. We will learn a lot about Tiller and Flory and must make our shots better than we have been. If we can score over 35 in both halves we can keep it close and 80 would make me hopeful. An early season chance to prove we belong.

To: Video crew for KU:

Subject: KU - Iowa State game, pre-game highlight film

Please feature a clip of the dunk by Rosario at the end of the Syracuse game that pushed ISU out of the 3rd place game.

LOL. That was worth $200-300k

I can’t stand Bruce pearl

Did he run for office?

My eyes!🤮

KU starters have played a lot of minutes. I sure hope our bench plays well tonight.

I think i will henceforth refer to every ex Duke commentator as Duke, ie Duke Hill.

Should we start a new thread? Im gonna