I know guys , you almost have to laugh when you see articles about this far in advance, but just thought what the hell I'd toss it out anyways,

See where KU has offered 2023 Baye Fall out of Senegal the # 6 player in 2023 Ku in on this one early, think they said 6-10/6'11 ? currently has offers from Georgia , Georgetown , Minnesota & KU. plus has many , many schools interested.

KU is the only school thus far that he has been to BEFORE KU offered , wasn't actually a Basketball visit as he was in KC for an AAU event. Said he liked the Campus KU was a big School , liked the Conference.

Curious wasn't there a player that was 7'6 Taco Fall - - am I imaging that? there was wasn't there ? - - Possible Relation ? - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer73

I read a few articles about Fall and neither mentioned Tacko being related to him.

@jayballer73 said in 2023 Recruiting:

I know guys , you almost have to laugh when you see articles about this far in advance, but just thought what the hell I'd toss it out anyways,

See where KU has offered 2023 Baye Fall out of Senegal the # 6 player in 2023 Ku in on this one early, think they said 6-10/6'11 ? currently has offers from Georgia , Georgetown , Minnesota & KU. plus has many , many schools interested.

KU is the only school thus far that he has been to BEFORE KU offered , wasn't actually a Basketball visit as he was in KC for an AAU event. Said he liked the Campus KU was a big School , liked the Conference.

Curious wasn't there a player that was 7'6 Taco Fall - - am I imaging that? there was wasn't there ? - - Possible Relation ? - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

No, Taco's brother is named Niagara (but he is only a 7th grader), Baye is no relation. Lol joke! But I was wondering the same thing, whether they were brothers.

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer73

I read a few articles about Fall and neither mentioned Tacko being related to him.

ya I didn't see his name mentioned but was just curious, thanks I appreciate it

@jayballer73

The only mention I saw was Fall's cousin is also on the team he plays for in Colorado.

Kansas has offered class of 2023 Shooting guard Elijah fisher per his Instagram page

Top 10 for Mikey. Kid is a freak show. 🐦 View Tweet?s=21

@FarmerJayhawk that's a WILD top 10.

He won't play in college not worried

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk that's a WILD top 10.

He's the one who started the talk about high profile recruits going to HBCU's. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he ended up at Hampton which is where his mom went to school and played softball at.

He's also going to be the first player to really put NIL rules to the test assuming they're in place by that point because this kid is a social media star who already had over 1 million Instagram followers before entering high school and now has 2.3 million followers on Instagram.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk that's a WILD top 10.

His top 10 includes several Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs). Williams' mother went to Hampton, and he has already said that when his list cuts down, he will include HBCUs (he stated this in the plural) on his list.

• North Carolina Central (top, far left)
• Alabama State (top, second from left)
• Texas State (top, second from right)
• Hampton (top, far right)
• Tennessee State (bottom, to the left of KU)

More and more top notch recruits are seriously considering HBCUs for basketball. Makur Maker (ESPN #16 recruit for 2020) picked Howard. It would not surprise me to see more high level recruits consider (and even pick) HBCUs. It wasn't that long ago that top black athletes attended HBCUs regularly.

Charles Oakley, Rick Mahorn, and Ben Wallace all went to HBCUs.

So did HOFs like Sam Jones, Willis Reed, and Earl Monroe. And that's just basketball. Football boasts the likes of Jerry Rice, Walter Payton, John Taylor, Doug Williams, and many more.

@justanotherfan said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk that's a WILD top 10.

His top 10 includes several Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs). Williams' mother went to Hampton, and he has already said that when his list cuts down, he will include HBCUs (he stated this in the plural) on his list.

• North Carolina Central (top, far left)
• Alabama State (top, second from left)
• Texas State (top, second from right)
• Hampton (top, far right)
• Tennessee State (bottom, to the left of KU)

More and more top notch recruits are seriously considering HBCUs for basketball. Makur Maker (ESPN #16 recruit for 2020) picked Howard. It would not surprise me to see more high level recruits consider (and even pick) HBCUs. It wasn't that long ago that top black athletes attended HBCUs regularly.

Charles Oakley, Rick Mahorn, and Ben Wallace all went to HBCUs.

So did HOFs like Sam Jones, Willis Reed, and Earl Monroe. And that's just basketball. Football boasts the likes of Jerry Rice, Walter Payton, John Taylor, Doug Williams, and many more.

A lot of those older players attended HBCU's because it was their only option because of segregation in recruiting, especially if they were from the south which most were since that's where HBCU's are.

Philly was a unique place for basketball back then because a lot of their playground legends (which Monroe was) chose to leave the Philly area for college. I'm sure there are plenty of similar stories from Rucker Park legends as well, but I'm more familiar with the Philly scene because of Wilt's story.

I don't know if Mikey will end up starting a trend, but that kid is a different breed and I'd be shocked if he doesn't spend a year at probably Hampton before going to the NBA.

@Texas-Hawk-10

Absolutely. I was just pointing to the overall tradition. It hasn't been recent (no real big time recruits since the 1980's in basketball, no consistent NBA player grads since the early 2000's, but those programs used to produce BIG TIME talent, in large part due to segregation. If anything, this shift could hurt some mid majors, as black student athletes may start considering HBCU's rather than midmajors like the MAC and Sun Belt. Academically, HBCUs have a long history (and even now) of producing the top black scientists, lawyers, doctors, etc.

@justanotherfan You know, I won't argue with his decision.

2023PG Robert Dillingham has received a Scholarship offer from University of Kansas

Stud

Well another offer for 2023. - -KU offered # 8 per 247 - - -6"4 pg Simeon Wilcher out of NJ , plays for the PSA Cardinals.

KU is with Miami , Iowa , Auburn , Oregon , & St Johns in the recruitment. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Ku has offer 2023 pf Justin Mcbride of oakhill/southern assaults

@JAYHAWKFAN214 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Ku has offer 2023 pf Justin Mcbride of oakhill/southern assaults

Lots of KU connections here.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@JAYHAWKFAN214 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Ku has offer 2023 pf Justin Mcbride of oakhill/southern assaults

Lots of KU connections here.

Kind of unreal.

Plays for the same AAU as Jalen/Gethro/Jossell which recently merged with Darrell Arthur's old AAU team still ran by an old friend of Bill. The cherry on top is that he is the cousin of Dajuan Harris. Almost seems destined to be a Jayhawk.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@JAYHAWKFAN214 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Ku has offer 2023 pf Justin Mcbride of oakhill/southern assaults

Lots of KU connections here.

Kind of unreal.

Plays for the same AAU as Jalen/Gethro/Jossell which recently merged with Darrell Arthur's old AAU team still ran by an old friend of Bill. The cherry on top is that he is the cousin of Dajuan Harris. Almost seems destined to be a Jayhawk.

Maybe we'll have better luck with this McBride.

Class of 2023 five star forward Omaha biliew receives offer from Kansas

KU has offered Matas Buzelis.

2023 guard kj Lewis has been offer from Kansas

@JAYHAWKFAN214

Likely to be a Top 30 kid when rankings are done for that class

Howard leading the way on Lewis. Bossi said he will debut in the Top 30. Mom is a KU fan and Lewis seems very intrigued by Self and the program. One to monitor..

2023 PG dalen davis from Whitney Young iL) have received a offer from Kansas

Cb @chuckbaily_ 16m
Blessed to say I have received another offer from the university of Kansas I want to think coach Jeremy case

Sounds like KU has a great shot at KJ Lewis if he doesn't end up in the GLeague. Lewis and Justin McBride would be nasty additions.

@BShark

Seemed like he was interested in Texas now too

Marquis cook @Marquiscookk 1h
After a great talk with @coachtownsend I am truly blessed to receive an offer from University of Kansas 💙❤ think you are the coaching staff for believing in me all glory to God

Chris Lockett Jr. @yeah_chris2 1h
After a great talk with @coachtownsend I am blessed to receive an offer from the university of Kansas ❤💙

Well , I'm just going to stick this here as I simply refuse to make up a thread on something this far out - -BUT I guess Ku has offered a kid from the class of 2025 - -which makes him an 8th grader. - -An 8th grader that has already received an offer from a P-5 school.

I think that get's a little out of hand offering that fast. - Kid must be insane to offer that early. - I'll just say his Name is Cameron Homes bout all I know about him cause like I said class of 2025 - -WOW

@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Well , I'm just going to stick this here as I simply refuse to make up a thread on something this far out - -BUT I guess Ku has offered a kid from the class of 2025 - -which makes him an 8th grader. - -An 8th grader that has already received an offer from a P-5 school.

I think that get's a little out of hand offering that fast. - Kid must be insane to offer that early. - I'll just say his Name is Cameron Homes bout all I know about him cause like I said class of 2025 - -WOW

This is nothing new ever schools have done this before

@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Well , I'm just going to stick this here as I simply refuse to make up a thread on something this far out - -BUT I guess Ku has offered a kid from the class of 2025 - -which makes him an 8th grader. - -An 8th grader that has already received an offer from a P-5 school.

I think that get's a little out of hand offering that fast. - Kid must be insane to offer that early. - I'll just say his Name is Cameron Homes bout all I know about him cause like I said class of 2025 - -WOW

Imo if they made an offer with him being that young then he must be the second- coming of Zues Jackson

@Marco said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Well , I'm just going to stick this here as I simply refuse to make up a thread on something this far out - -BUT I guess Ku has offered a kid from the class of 2025 - -which makes him an 8th grader. - -An 8th grader that has already received an offer from a P-5 school.

I think that get's a little out of hand offering that fast. - Kid must be insane to offer that early. - I'll just say his Name is Cameron Homes bout all I know about him cause like I said class of 2025 - -WOW

Imo if they made an offer with him being that young then he must be the second- coming of Zues Jackson

oh they offered

@JAYHAWKFAN214 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Well , I'm just going to stick this here as I simply refuse to make up a thread on something this far out - -BUT I guess Ku has offered a kid from the class of 2025 - -which makes him an 8th grader. - -An 8th grader that has already received an offer from a P-5 school.

I think that get's a little out of hand offering that fast. - Kid must be insane to offer that early. - I'll just say his Name is Cameron Homes bout all I know about him cause like I said class of 2025 - -WOW

This is nothing new ever schools have done this before

Didn't say it was new - - I said it was CRAZY

Just saying. Was looking , good to know we are in the conversation for some really good players in the early part of their recruiting. as of the present KU is listed as these players top 5 college choices as of this point. 6 of the top 15 players in the 2023 class has KU as one of their top 5 schools of interest they are as follows :

4 - -6"6 - -SG - -Elijah Fisher

6 - -6"8- - PF - - Omaha Biliew

8 - -6"4 - - CG - -Simeon Wilcher

9 - -6"10 - -C - -Baye Fall

12 - -6"8 - -C - - Jalen Lewis

14 - -6"6 - -SF - -Mookie Cook

Not saying we land ANY of these guys BUT glad to see we are in the hunt Early need the staff to stay on these guys finish on the one's w really want to get after. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Just saying. Was looking , good to know we are in the conversation for some really good players in the early part of their recruiting. as of the present KU is listed as these players top 5 college choices as of this point. 6 of the top 15 players in the 2023 class has KU as one of their top 5 schools of interest they are as follows :

4 - -6"6 - -SG - -Elijah Fisher

6 - -6"8- - PF - - Omaha Biliew

8 - -6"4 - - CG - -Simeon Wilcher

9 - -6"10 - -C - -Baye Fall

12 - -6"8 - -C - - Jalen Lewis

14 - -6"6 - -SF - -Mookie Cook

Not saying we land ANY of these guys BUT glad to see we are in the hunt Early need the staff to stay on these guys finish on the one's w really want to get after. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

All of our NCAA crap will be behind us at that point. We will land atleast one of those guys.

Maki Johnson @makijohnson3 3h
Blessed and thankful to have received an offer from the university of Kansas 💙❤

@JAYHAWKFAN214 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Maki Johnson @makijohnson3 3h
Blessed and thankful to have received an offer from the university of Kansas 💙❤

I’d pay close attention to this one. This is Andrew Wiggins girlfriend little brother. We should have an in here.

4 star ja'kobe Walter @ja'kobewalter1
)has picked up an offer from Kansas @kuhoops

F Amari hansberry has picked up a offer from Kansas

Big time recruit coming in to visit tomorrow. - - 6 '8 PF the # 2 PF in the Class of 2023 and the # 5 player in the class overall - - -Omaha Biliew will be visiting KU tomorrow - -some time down the road BUT good to get a visit. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer67 good thar campus visits are starting again.

@Marco said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67 good thar campus visits are starting again.

ya for sure helps. let the Campus help seal the enviroment/school

Sounds like Bryson Warren had a great visit to KU Sunday. - - A 4 * Combo Guard from Link Yr Mo Academy , transfer out of Arkansas. The # 4 Combo in the class and ranked # 32 overall

Warren said it was great getting to talk with all the Coach's , Calling KU the GOD Father of Basketball A high 3 level Scorer Some of the other Schools after him are :

Auburn , Tennessee , G Town , Vanderbilt , North Carolina , Arizona State , Wisconsin , & Arkansas plus some others. - Sounds like we made a pretty good impression we shall see.

2023 f Brandon garrison @Brandongarriso 34m
Blessed to receive an d1 offer from coch self coach case &the university of Kansas @kuhoops @coachbillself

2023 Pf Brandon Gardner @bgardner2023 40m
Today has been amazing. Iam happy to announce that l've been offered by the university of Kansas 💙❤!@kuhoops

2023 - - -4* Matas Buzells is one we are in on early , transferred to Wolfeboro NH Brewster Academy. - -They list him as a 6'9 SF - -but dangerous shooter from deep and gifted passer , ranked at present as the # 46 player Nationally.

Other schools involved at this point are : Florida , Florida State , Illinois , KU , Syracuse & Wake Forrest. - With this being the 1st day they said the interest and contacts will be going up. One to keep an eye on.

@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Sounds like Bryson Warren had a great visit to KU Sunday. - - A 4 * Combo Guard from Link Yr Mo Academy , transfer out of Arkansas. The # 4 Combo in the class and ranked # 32 overall

Warren said it was great getting to talk with all the Coach's , Calling KU the GOD Father of Basketball A high 3 level Scorer Some of the other Schools after him are :

Auburn , Tennessee , G Town , Vanderbilt , North Carolina , Arizona State , Wisconsin , & Arkansas plus some others. - Sounds like we made a pretty good impression we shall see.

Major target for the staff.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Sounds like Bryson Warren had a great visit to KU Sunday. - - A 4 * Combo Guard from Link Yr Mo Academy , transfer out of Arkansas. The # 4 Combo in the class and ranked # 32 overall

Warren said it was great getting to talk with all the Coach's , Calling KU the GOD Father of Basketball A high 3 level Scorer Some of the other Schools after him are :

Auburn , Tennessee , G Town , Vanderbilt , North Carolina , Arizona State , Wisconsin , & Arkansas plus some others. - Sounds like we made a pretty good impression we shall see.

Major target for the staff.

Sounds like anyways it would be a very nice pick up for sure

2023 guard Jackson shelstad @Jacksonshelstad50m
Blessed to receive an offer from coach Townsend and @kuhoops !

Well this morning was the 1st day of contact at 12:00 this morning. Have ome names KU has put feelers out not sure about offers but have at least made contact in some way these are one's I saw.;;

Looks like the biggest goes out to the # 10 ranked player in the Nation for this class , 6'7 SF out of Gill St Bernard's NJ : -- Mackenzie Mgbako - - So far has offers from LSU , Ohio St , & Geo Washington , however like us many texts has had contact with KU Via Text also contact from Duke - - - Villanova - - -Florida St - - -U Conn - - - - -Memphis - - -Maryland - - -Providence - - -WV - - - & others

Jeremiah Johnson 6'2 PG out of Norman Oklahoma - - - - - - Taylor Bowen - - -6'8 SF - - - - -Bryson Wann 6'2 Combo - - -& Kaleb Glenn - -getting to work looks good

2023 F Tyler Smith has Received a offer from Kansas

2023 PG layden blocker has received an offer from Kansas

2023 pg kylan Boswell @bambam_boz
Has been offers by Kansas

Brady Dunlop @11bradyd 58m
After a great talk with @coach Townsend iam honored to have received a offer to play for Kansas University thank you to the coaching staff for believing in me #rockchalk

2024 pg Ahmad nowell of Houston high school (TN) has been offered by Kansas

2023 pg Braeden green 6'3 from Southern California academy have just been offer from Kansas

https://247sports.com/player/papa-kante-46116931/ ↗

Bill sniffing around here

2023 F Gregory Jackson has been offer by Kansas

2023 4 star Jeremy fears has been offer by Kansas

Matas Buzelis visiting today. Believe he is at Brewster @BeddieKU23

@BShark

A string bean 6'9ish prospect. I'm sure my buddy will get to work with him this upcoming yr

Not sure if these kids have already been mentioned but throwing them out

4 Elijah Fisher - - -# 16 Kylan Boswell - - # 20 Rayvon Griffith - - #29 Brony James - - # 30 Chris Lockett Jr - - # 40 Jazz Gardner - -& # 43 Chris Johnson - All have received offers, some names to keep an eye on see how it plays out. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Ku has offer2023 f/c papa kante 6'9 from South kent

@JAYHAWKFAN214 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Ku has offer2023 f/c papa kante 6'9 from South kent

I can hear the chants now, "who's your daddy?!"

https://247sports.com/player/kanaan-carlyle-46085917/ ↗

4 star forward Justin McBride down to 4 including KU

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

4 star forward Justin McBride down to 4 including KU

Strong connections. Would imagine the staff could land him if he is a priority.

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Well seen this the other day , and saw again today off Rupp Rafters. 2023 recruit has been to KU. At the present time he is a 6'10 pg he won't end up being this in college , has decent handles but not pg handles for College. His name is Matas Buzelis out of Wolfeboro NH Brewster Academy.

If any others have more info other then what I post feel free to fill us in. Not sure why I'm wasting my time as other posters all they he is a lock for their school , so then guess there si no chance in hell for us to be involved lol.

Eric Bossi wrote him up saying they hadn't updated rankings for quite awhile but this kid currently 43rd but 32 generated composite is in line for big jump probably top 10 , right now he has unoffically been to U Conn , Depaul , Purdue , & KU and also planning on going to WF & Florida state.

Got this today of Rupp but like I said no chance cause poster from Arizona is Arizona's lock team to beat - -Another said he is a Duke lock & then Uk posters saying if Cal has been to see him and Cal wants him he is UK's - dam must be nice to just be able to lock up a kid cause people say so lmao. Don't even know why others recruit if thats the case.

He has had a huge group come see him at open gym almost all the big boys : UK - Duke - - N Carol - -Mich - -Illi - -Ariz - - Mich St - -Syra - -U Conn - -KU - -& UCLA so far
Just not sure Three Schools have him as a lock for their School and we know if they say so then so let it be written -so let it be done. - -there is only ONE problem. we have three schools saying he is a lock for their school BUT there is only ONE KEY - -dammit I hate it when that happens lol. - -Anybody have any info on the kid seriously. Does KU have any kind of shot with him ? He said he really enjoyed his visit loved the facilities let us know. - -B Shark ? - -Farmer ?

@jayballer67

I inquired about him since my buddy coaches at Brewster. A lot of interest for him and he's entertaining just about all of it. There is mutual interest from what he can read about what Matas is saying

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67

I inquired about him since my buddy coaches at Brewster. A lot of interest for him and he's entertaining just about all of it. There is mutual interest from what he can read about what Matas is saying

Thank you. - -So at least we have some interest, both ways it sounds needs to add some weight but looks like he can bury the J -not good enough handles to be a pg in P-5 College ball but decent I think he is fully aware he will not be a pg in College. Someone to keep an eye on see how it goes. Thank you.

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67

I inquired about him since my buddy coaches at Brewster. A lot of interest for him and he's entertaining just about all of it. There is mutual interest from what he can read about what Matas is saying

When I first saw his tape I was hoping against hope that KU could close early bud deep down knew it would be a war for him.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67

I inquired about him since my buddy coaches at Brewster. A lot of interest for him and he's entertaining just about all of it. There is mutual interest from what he can read about what Matas is saying

When I first saw his tape I was hoping against hope that KU could close early bud deep down knew it would be a war for him.

At least sounds like we got in early, not that it means a whole lot but he said he really liked when he was at Ku. I mean just saying he got to talk with Coach and loved the facilities - -gonna be a war ,and who knows maybe he is a lock for one of those many many other schools that all their fans say. Of UK fans say if cal is interested then it's a wrap he will be Uk always the case according to their fans. lol

UK fans are on there asking the Duke posters - -the Arizona posters what makes them such an expert as to way they think the guy is a lock for their School. I guess no one is entitled to say that other then UK.

I did see on Rivals future cast that there was one prediction and it was 100 % KU BUT we know that doesn't mean squat cause anyone can get on there and cast their vote for where a kid is going. - someone to keep an eye on though -who knows.

@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Well seen this the other day , and saw again today off Rupp Rafters. 2023 recruit has been to KU. At the present time he is a 6'10 pg he won't end up being this in college , has decent handles but not pg handles for College. His name is Matas Buzelis out of Wolfeboro NH Brewster Academy.

If any others have more info other then what I post feel free to fill us in. Not sure why I'm wasting my time as other posters all they he is a lock for their school , so then guess there si no chance in hell for us to be involved lol.

Eric Bossi wrote him up saying they hadn't updated rankings for quite awhile but this kid currently 43rd but 32 generated composite is in line for big jump probably top 10 , right now he has unoffically been to U Conn , Depaul , Purdue , & KU and also planning on going to WF & Florida state.

Got this today of Rupp but like I said no chance cause poster from Arizona is Arizona's lock team to beat - -Another said he is a Duke lock & then Uk posters saying if Cal has been to see him and Cal wants him he is UK's - dam must be nice to just be able to lock up a kid cause people say so lmao. Don't even know why others recruit if thats the case.

He has had a huge group come see him at open gym almost all the big boys : UK - Duke - - N Carol - -Mich - -Illi - -Ariz - - Mich St - -Syra - -U Conn - -KU - -& UCLA so far
Just not sure Three Schools have him as a lock for their School and we know if they say so then so let it be written -so let it be done. - -there is only ONE problem. we have three schools saying he is a lock for their school BUT there is only ONE KEY - -dammit I hate it when that happens lol. - -Anybody have any info on the kid seriously. Does KU have any kind of shot with him ? He said he really enjoyed his visit loved the facilities let us know. - -B Shark ? - -Farmer ?

Matas Buzelis, yes! Didn't know anything about this guy, but bigtime baller!

Couple of guys , not sure if mentioned for 23 but either KU is interested in or mentioned KU they are # 31 Assane Diop 6'10 Center out of Denver Colorado. - -raw in overall development - -great motor - - flashes of Ball skills -- -great frame. Other Schools are Denver , Illinois , Maryland , & Memphis.

Then the # 53 ranked player of 23 is 6'9 PF out of Duncanville Texas - -hmmm seems like w had another big boy from{ DuncanVille Texas - -who was that guy lol } - Barnes skilled face up 4 guy excellent size and length . - -Has unoffically visited - Baylor - - SMU - - & KU

Guys to keep our eyes on - - who knows

2023 guard Chris Johnson @luhchris has received an offer from Kansas

@jayballer67 Ostertag right? The Big O.

@Marco said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67 Ostertag right? The Big O.

ya I think that's right, ya I think he was the one. Who was that other big guy w had I thought he too was from Texas probably off on that but I think you are right. Ostertag from Duncanville

@jayballer67 not sure.... Remember Big O though, he went to Duncanville.

@Marco said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67 not sure.... Remember Big O though, he went to Duncanville.

Boy do I remember lol - -the other big I was thinking of was Aldrich - -probably not right

@jayballer67 yeah, the big O was from Duncunville. I think Cole was from Minnesota

@Oldmanhawk Correct on both.

@Oldmanhawk said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67 yeah, the big O was from Duncunville. I think Cole was from Minnesota

Thanks guy - - I'll blame that on old age lol - -I was sure about O couldn't remember about Cole

I loved me some Aldrich... He had a great three year(?) career. He was bigtime in our Final Four (first time that he was really used, right?) matchup against UNC. My god, Psycho T had better days - over the top, over the top,,,, rinse and repeat.

yippee. we made the FINAL 8 for 223 point guard Jeremy Fears 6'1 ranked presently # 27 according to 247. - Some about these final 10 - -final 8's just chap my ass lol. - -Let me know when we get to the final 3

@jayballer67 I heard that we made his final 18.

@Marco said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67 I heard that we made his final 18.

LMAO - - -stunning absolutely Stunning I say lol

Kansas has offer rise 2023 forward jarred hall per to his coach

Kansas was at st.bernard 's to see 2023 5 star MacKenzie mgbako

Read we made the top 5 for 6"1 Combo - -Kanaan Carlyle the Schools are : - -Auburn , Baylor , Florida , Stanford & KU . Ranked # 20 in the Nation

@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Read we made the top 5 for 6"1 Combo - -Kanaan Carlyle the Schools are : - -Auburn , Baylor , Florida , Stanford & KU . Ranked # 20 in the Nation watch for auburn

Carlyle wants to commit before the grassroots season starts in 22. Already officially visited Baylor & Georgia this fall. Going to Stanford this week. Wonder if we'll see him visit KU in-season for a big game..

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Carlyle wants to commit before the grassroots season starts in 22. Already officially visited Baylor & Georgia this fall. Going to Stanford this week. Wonder if we'll see him visit KU in-season for a big game..

hopefully It would be nice for like the Kentucky game or Texas would be sweet. Have him there when the Phog is jumpin

Class of 2024 from Huntington prep WV g/f Trenton flowers has received an offer from Kansas

2023 6'5 Combo Guard Chris Johnson #37 overall (jumped 30+ spots) in latest update will officially visit KU sometime this season it looks. We made his top 7. Jeremy Case leading the charge. Has already made officials to Arkansas/LSU. He is from Texas and also wants to see Georgia. Has Houston, Texas & Texas A&M in his Top 7 as well. Nothing noteworthy on KU here besides him wanting to official here. Seems like he's going to commit sometime this season

2023 Guard Jeremiah Johnson #38 overall- Kansas: "Bill Self and Jeremy Case has been recruiting me. I took two unofficial visits there. I like that program because it is a winning program and a main priority for me is winning. Also, they have shown a lot of loyalty by staying with me throughout all that has happened."

Johnson was shot this summer (context to his comment about them staying loyal).

@BeddieKU23 Got a shot on this one, I've heard. Believe he will stay relatively local. KU an Okie schools all over him. Not sure how much we will need a guard in that class.

Well read an article about a couple of 2023 recruits. - -One I think we might have good chance at , the other ummm probably not. Just from what he said

The one I really don't think A LOT of interest from them is # 12 Matas Buzelis - - pretty much said Duke , Kentucky & Kansas was there watching him talking about taking visits and what have you then when it came to KU he said he text's them , calls them but he just don't know

The one who at least sounds like he is interested in KU and KU Townsend was watching him the same day as Matas same Schools there watching KU- - Duke - -& Kentucky
Tayler Bol Bowen , # 23 in the class of 2023 , Bowen said : Norm is the one who offered him and Norm came to Brewster and Tayler was very excited to see him , to see him walk in the gym. Tayler said I just want KU to be part of my recruitment and it's a blessing to have them as part of my recruitment for sure.

That to me sure sounds like he is pretty interested in KU , the question is - - - is the feeling mutual it vey wll might be if Norm offered - we shall see

No chance with Buzelis. Zero, zilch, squat.

@BeddieKU23 any insight on the other kid?

@BShark

Good athlete. Offensive game needs some polish and development I was told but length and size for days. Will need weight room too.. Hard worker and good kid. KU definitely in there on him. Obviously they r recruiting Buzelis but his recruitment is already a bidding war

Kansas will be in to see 2023 5 star ja'kobe Walter in Mckinney tx tonight

@JAYHAWKFAN214 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Kansas will be in to see 2023 5 star ja'kobe Walter in Mckinney tx tonight

We got him.

Well we made the final 5 for 6'1 point guard Jeremy Fears # 27 in the Nation. Other Schools Michigan , Michigan State Illinois U Conn & KU

No chance. Illinois is all in on him.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

No chance. Illinois is all in on him.

Are we afraid of Illinois ? - -does that mean were not suppose to try ?

He's not coming to Kansas. Illinois is beating us for players lately. Have to get a better NIL game.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

He's not coming to Kansas. Illinois is beating us for players lately. Have to get a better NIL game.

The only way KU's NIL game changes is if it magically moves it's location

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

He's not coming to Kansas. Illinois is beating us for players lately. Have to get a better NIL game.

The only way KU's NIL game changes is if it magically moves it's location

I think we can do better than involving the Baty brothers.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

He's not coming to Kansas. Illinois is beating us for players lately. Have to get a better NIL game.

The only way KU's NIL game changes is if it magically moves it's location

I think we can do better than involving the Baty brothers.

Pizza Hut and White Castle started in Wichita, right? While I realize that WSU is there, I mean come on... Surely we could reach out to places such as those. Or the Sprint Center, etc.

Sprint center is a t and t. White Castle started here?

@BShark how long is that contract? Seems so weird we agreed to that. What was their cut?

@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Sprint center is a t and t. White Castle started here?

I think so, yeah. Pizza Hut too.

@Marco said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

He's not coming to Kansas. Illinois is beating us for players lately. Have to get a better NIL game.

The only way KU's NIL game changes is if it magically moves it's location

I think we can do better than involving the Baty brothers.

Pizza Hut and White Castle started in Wichita, right? While I realize that WSU is there, I mean come on, and originated in Kansas... Surely we could reach out to places such as those. Or the Sprint Center, etc.

For as much money as I spent at the Red Lyon and Pizza Shuttle back in the day I’d think they have the cash to do something

Someone get Frito-Lay on the phone. How about M&M/Mars? They've both got deep pockets. Remember the Newtek guys? They left for Austin many years back, but started here in Topeka originally. Maybe they have a sweet spot for their old stomping grounds?

@tis4tim said in 2023 Recruiting:

Someone get Frito-Lay on the phone. How about M&M/Mars? They've both got deep pockets. Remember the Newtek guys? They left for Austin many years back, but started here in Topeka originally. Maybe they have a sweet spot for their old stomping grounds?

That's what I'm saying, M&M Mars, Pizza Hut, White Castle - businesses that started right here in Kansas.

Layden Blocker and Scottie Middleton will be in this weekend for visits. Blocker is ranked #34, a pg and Middelton a SF ranked #50.

@BeddieKU23 Sunrise Christian Pipeline is NICE

Blocker has previously taken visits to Auburn, Oklahoma & Ole Miss. In October he cut his list to 7 including KU. Has taken unofficial's to Arkansas & Baylor. From Little Rock so Arkansas has to be considered a threat. I think this visit could make a big impression on him. Really looks like the kind of PG Self is looking for. 6'2, athletic, defends and functional shot.

Middleton has risen in the ranks since coming to Sunrise. Not sure how involved KU is at this point. Seems like his recruiting is going to change. Originally from FL.

Ran across three 2023 recruits today passing along. The first is the # 11 player off 247 name is Kylan Boswell made his top 7. - -Thing is with this one we were on his initial top 5 Schools of interest and we still in the game. - - a 6'1 PG from Compass prep Arizona, looking to commit sooner then later.- -Other Schools running with us for him : - -Illinois - - Arizona ( probably the favorite but never know , Michigan , Oregon , Texas Tech & USC & KU. - -Boswell says he has visited Illinois , next visit will be Arizona and said he is looking to visit the others, said sorry he could take only 5 visits but would have to see about fit and then visit

Then this kid PaPa Kante : -- 6'10 Center out of South Kent Conn , # 92 ranked player other Schols in the mix are : - -Michigan , Rutgers , Tennessee , Syracuse , Pitt , Conn , Iowa , Seton Hall & KU

The third kid is Taylor Bol Bowen 6'9 SF # 25th ranked player other schools involved are # Providence , U Conn , Duke , Arkansas , & KU -- We Shall see how things pan out. - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG

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Love this offer.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

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Love this offer.

Yupp he's been solid for Sunrise. I like him

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Love this offer.

Yupp he's been solid for Sunrise. I like him

Sunrise pipeline yes plz

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Love this offer.

Yupp he's been solid for Sunrise. I like him

Sunrise pipeline yes plz

Seems like it was a big offer. Liked Dotson and Garrett and known for his defense. His shooting ability has stuck out to me on the other side of the ball. Hope we land him

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

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Love this offer.

Yupp he's been solid for Sunrise. I like him

Sunrise pipeline yes plz

Seems like it was a big offer. Liked Dotson and Garrett and known for his defense. His shooting ability has stuck out to me on the other side of the ball. Hope we land him

Notice when he announced it on twitter he used a pic of Garrett. I'll msg you.

KU makes the Top 5 for 4-Star Shooting Guard Chris Lockett Jr. Chris is down to Arkansas, Baylor, Kansas, LSU, and Tulane with plans on committing around Christmas time this year.

Kansas: “I’ve noticed the development they do for their guys over the years. I’ve been seeing their guards play and I’ve been watching them a lot this year. I love the system they run and how they just letting their guards and wings play. It’s a blue blood school it speaks for itself. it’s history.”

From the comments seemed like Baylor/Arkansas battle.

Scottie Middleton updated his recruitment. Only played basketball for 3 years. Here's what he said about KU. Xavier involved as well now but their coach just got fired. Ohio St got him on an official as well recently.

Kansas: "It was good to get the offer. Norm Roberts came to a few of my games this year and he offered me. He told me that he loves my versatility, energy, and love for the game. I started liking the school two years ago and eventually, I feel that could be a school I can take an official visit to.

@BeddieKU23 Bill would love him. Garrett type.

20223 Chris Lockett has KU in his 5 finalists , said he wants to makes his decision by Christmas. Other Schools Baylor , Tulane , LSU , & Arkansas besides KU:

Talked about LSU now not having a head Coach might kind of put LSU out of the loop , talked about coming to KU for a visit believe he is 6'5 or 6'6 SG # 56 in 247 at present

@BShark

Better shooter imo

Whadya think? Any shot we land Dillingham after NC State decommitment?

Or Kensucky-bound?

@webjay Top 10 players are generally too expensive. Guess you never know though.

Marvel Allen is a very interesting decommit that KU was on hot and heavy before LSU procured his services.

@BShark

Yeah. Talented kid. Just don't see it.. Kids that commit to LSU, we are probably better off avoiding if you catch my drift

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BShark

Yeah. Talented kid. Just don't see it.. Kids that commit to LSU, we are probably better off avoiding if you catch my drift

I know we have no shot at Traore and don't want to get involved in that kind of a recruitment currently but not even all LSU commits are the same.

@BShark

We just have no need for Traore with what we have signed and what might return (Dave).

I know little about Allen besides he was interested in KU one day and committed to LSU the next. I just started grouping all these high rated kids going to LSU to lose and win nothing as caring about "other" things more then basketball..

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BShark

We just have no need for Traore with what we have signed and what might return (Dave).

I know little about Allen besides he was interested in KU one day and committed to LSU the next. I just started grouping all these high rated kids going to LSU to lose and win nothing as caring about "other" things more then basketball..

Allen is good, worth taking. We made a decent offer but LSU was big balling.

Agree on Traore. He will cost a lot and we already have studs coming in. I'm torn on Dave, he would be our best big but on the other hand I'm excited for the new guys.

@BShark

Yeah the film on Allen is good and rated appropriately.

Agree I'm torn on Dave but if he returns I'm okay with it at this point. We know what we are getting from him and expecting any of the returning bigs/newcomers to provide what he can when fully healthy, even hobbled is unrealistic in Self's system. Dave could mentor Zach/KJ another year and the two giants coming another season. I think its important we keep Dave if he wants to stay and get his masters finished. He has his limitations but I respect how hard he's playing with that bum foot. We shall see

FYI KU hasn't been one of the programs to contact Allen yet. Probably due to the fact we are still playing LOL

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BShark

Yeah the film on Allen is good and rated appropriately.

Agree I'm torn on Dave but if he returns I'm okay with it at this point. We know what we are getting from him and expecting any of the returning bigs/newcomers to provide what he can when fully healthy, even hobbled is unrealistic in Self's system. Dave could mentor Zach/KJ another year and the two giants coming another season. I think its important we keep Dave if he wants to stay and get his masters finished. He has his limitations but I respect how hard he's playing with that bum foot. We shall see

For me it wouldn't bother me at all if he did come back , hard to replace experience , the only thing I kind of worry some is IF Dave does return then with what we already have here plus with what is coming in I worry about possibly being a factor about someone transferring OR someone not coming because limited playing time because of Dave's presence

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

FYI KU hasn't been one of the programs to contact Allen yet. Probably due to the fact we are still playing LOL

Calipari has a lot of time on his hands these days.

@BShark

Been a theme for him lately.

@BShark could they fire him?

@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BShark could they fire him?

They always can because it is Kentucky but it would hurt big time financially.

Would love to get Scotty Middleton.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

Would love to get Scotty Middleton.

For real he should be a top priority

@BeddieKU23 yeah agree

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 yeah agree

Middleton looks sweet

Staff likes him and he seems very interested. Time to get it done.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

Staff likes him and he seems very interested. Time to get it done.

would be a solid addition from what I've seen

4 star guard Chris Johnson mentions KU as one of 3 programs recruiting him the hardest. Arkansas & Tennessee being the others

Kansas: "I talk to Jeremy Case. I was going to take an official visit earlier this year but my high school schedule could never align with the dates. We are still figuring out a set date where I can go."

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

4 star guard Chris Johnson mentions KU as one of 3 programs recruiting him the hardest.

Kansas: "I talk to Jeremy Case. I was going to take an official visit earlier this year but my high school schedule could never align with the dates. We are still figuring out a set date where I can go."

Case is doing work. Recruiting and coaching.

@BShark

Case also involved with 4 star guard RJ Jones. Regarded as one of the best shooters in the class. Same town as Jalen Wilson

Kansas: "They have been active. I talk to Jeremy Case and Kurtis Townsend. They want me to play the position of Remy Martin but with the offensive skill of Ochai Agbaji. It has been pretty good conversations with their staff and they have visited my school plenty of times. They have not offered but we talk here and there and I would like to receive an offer from them."

@BeddieKU23 sweet sweet recruiting music “be like our current champions”!

Duke with another 5 star in the 23 class. puke commence. This time its Mackenzie Mgbako the #3 ranked prospect. Now 5 of the top 30 for 2023

4 star guard Rayvon Griffith cut his list to 5 including KU. The #42 ranked prospect has a final 5 of Alabama, Cincinnati, Kansas, Ohio State, and UCLA. He's from Ohio. Hello!

Kansas: "Bill Self recruits me. They are a big time school and I feel I am a big time player so I like the way the have been recruiting me. They play with a chip on their shoulder every time they go out and play."

When discussing what he is looking for out of a program when visit season arrives, Griffith said, "I am looking for a brotherhood that values winning and has an up and down playing style."

Currently ranked No. 45 nationally in 2023, Midwest Basketball Club wing Rayvon Griffith was pretty impressive on Saturday. He’s a big wing that can play at the two or as a small forward and he can get hot from deep in a hurry. His athleticism is budding, he plays fast and his game appears to be headed in a very positive direction

Ku offered 5 star Justin Roberts from Philly. Norm watched him all weekend. 6'7 SF. Has visited UK & Tennessee so far

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

4 star guard Rayvon Griffith cut his list to 5 including KU. The #42 ranked prospect has a final 5 of Alabama, Cincinnati, Kansas, Ohio State, and UCLA. He's from Ohio. Hello!

Kansas: "Bill Self recruits me. They are a big time school and I feel I am a big time player so I like the way the have been recruiting me. They play with a chip on their shoulder every time they go out and play."

When discussing what he is looking for out of a program when visit season arrives, Griffith said, "I am looking for a brotherhood that values winning and has an up and down playing style."

Currently ranked No. 45 nationally in 2023, Midwest Basketball Club wing Rayvon Griffith was pretty impressive on Saturday. He’s a big wing that can play at the two or as a small forward and he can get hot from deep in a hurry. His athleticism is budding, he plays fast and his game appears to be headed in a very positive direction

hmmm -- sound familier ? - - Big Wing ? - - hot from deep in a hurry ? -- - - Playing with a chip ?Kinda sounds like a Christan Braun version 2 to me . Seen this earlier today. Don't think we could go wrong with him looks pretty nice. - - Looking for brotherhood ? -- umm HELLO . - - He plays fast ? - - Can you say KU transition game ? - - NEXT -- LOL

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THINGS ARE SCORCHING HOT HERE FOLKS

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

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THINGS ARE SCORCHING HOT HERE FOLKS

Could you be hinting that maybe finally might be some good news possibly ? - Sure would be nice we could use some.

@jayballer67 Would consider KU the leader at this pt

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67 Would consider KU the leader at this pt

that would be nice. Hopefully it might stay this way

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This kid is better than his ranking. Peja's kid. Absolute bucket. We should prioritize him.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

This kid is better than his ranking. Peja's kid. Absolute bucket. We should prioritize him.

@BShark I was just watching video on him.

He would KILL at the 4 for us. Get him and Middleton. Whew that's a duo.

That makes me feel old

hmmmm, it's a sign I'm telling you - - it's a sign lol - - Our BOY Christan - what # does he wear / - # 2 yes indeed. - And umm just by chance what # does Andrej wear ? -YES - you guessed it - - # 2. - -STOP THE PRESSES it's a wrap what else do you need - -he is a LOCK lmao

We got great shots at Maki Johnson,Chris Lockett and Chris Johnson.Good shots at Omaha Biliew and Taylor Bowen. Hopefully Rayvon Griffith come to us April 1st his commitment date.

@NormRoberts said in 2023 Recruiting:

We got great shots at Maki Johnson,Chris Lockett and Chris Johnson.Good shots at Omaha Biliew and Taylor Bowen. Hopefully Rayvon Griffith come to us April 1st his commitment date.

Strong first post, Coach 😉

@Jethro aww little Stinky! Looks like a beast! Lets get him!

KU recruiting 4 star Point Guard Trey Greene. The #67 ranked prospect had this to say

Virginia Tech, Cincinnati are recruiting me hard, and a little bit of Kansas, Tennessee, UCF, and USF. It's been a lot of reaching out and showing love the past couple weeks. In terms of who I saw at my games, Kansas, Tennessee, Virginia Tech, Cincinnati, and UCF were there watching, making sure I'm staying up to date with everything.”

Plans to announce in August

Latest update on Layden Blocker.. Not promising for KU

One of the top performers from last weekend's Nike Eybl session one Layden Blocker has reportedly started to set up some official visits according to Hog Sports the 6-foot-2 point guard has set up visits to Arkansas June 6-8, Kansas State May 6-8, and Maryland May 13-15th.

K-St & Maryland were not apart of his Top 7 he released

@BeddieKU23 we are not getting him period. Knew this for awhile should have shared. LOCKED IN 100% to Nike.

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Latest update on Layden Blocker.. Not promising for KU

One of the top performers from last weekend's Nike Eybl session one Layden Blocker has reportedly started to set up some official visits according to Hog Sports the 6-foot-2 point guard has set up visits to Arkansas June 6-8, Kansas State May 6-8, and Maryland May 13-15th.

K-St & Maryland were not apart of his Top 7 he released

They wasn't a part of his ORIGINAL 7 - -he ha since added K/State since the tang hiring

@jayballer67

Yes both schools he's visiting upcoming saw coach changes after his list was released in Oct

How do we like our chances for Rayvon Griffith? Makes announcement on 5/1. Final 5 of Ohio State, Alabama, Kansas, Cincy, UCLA.

@RockkChalkk said in 2023 Recruiting:

How do we like our chances for Rayvon Griffith? Makes announcement on 5/1. Final 5 of Ohio State, Alabama, Kansas, Cincy, UCLA.

Don't like them I think he ends up elsewhere

Seeing more and more about Omaha Biliew and KU linked

@RockkChalkk said in 2023 Recruiting:

How do we like our chances for Rayvon Griffith? Makes announcement on 5/1. Final 5 of Ohio State, Alabama, Kansas, Cincy, UCLA.

Bearcat

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Not saying this kid is KU level but he intrigues me a lot. Some tools are there. Get him in the right system and he is a P5 guy imo.

20234🤍 @kaden580 21m
After a great conversation with coach self i'am Blessed to say I've received an offer from the university of Kansas #agtg @coachbillself @tsfprephs @boogclay @teamtraeyoungmb@treyscotti @kuhoops

Scotty Middleton dropping his top 5 in an hour. Would be a shock if KU isn't on it.

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As expected. Believe Ohio State and Seton Hall are the front runners however.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

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As expected. Believe Ohio State and Seton Hall are the front runners however.

Seems like he's way under the radar. Has a SMOOTH stroke and is bouncy.

@BShark was he the kid going to Baylor?

no

PLEASE ADIDAS I BEG

Kaden Cooper is a lot of fun too.

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Cooper looks big time. Hopefully we get into that.

Recent 23 offer Andrej Stojakovic didn't mention KU as a school he intends to visit. Bummed there

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BShark

Cooper looks big time. Hopefully we get into that.

Bill offered a few days ago. Still a checks notes 3* #190 recruit.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BShark

Cooper looks big time. Hopefully we get into that.

Bill offered a few days ago. Still a checks notes 3* #190 recruit.

Yeah that's about to change big time.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

Bill going in home with him today. Expect an offer.

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BShark

Cooper looks big time. Hopefully we get into that.

Bill offered a few days ago. Still a checks notes 3* #190 recruit.

Yeah that's about to change big time.

Top 50 easily in a weak class. Lots of raw talent there.

@BShark

For sure this class is a tread carefully one but man his tape was exciting and oozing with more potential.

@BeddieKU23 I only want top 50 kids in this class and no bigs outside of Omaha if we can swing that one.

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Recent 23 offer Andrej Stojakovic didn't mention KU as a school he intends to visit. Bummed there

ya I saw that too. Well just move on and don't waste anymore time - -plenty of big time players , we will be fine. would of been nice though

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

Bill going in home with him today. Expect an offer.

As foretold

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2023 4 star Brandon garrison will have a an home visit with Bill Self tomorrow per @endless_motor

Chatman has a real nice jump shot. Not a tremendous athlete but good size guard that can get his shot off and the release is money. That step back he has is big time

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Chatman has a real nice jump shot. Not a tremendous athlete but good size guard that can get his shot off and the release is money. That step back he has is big time

Yeah he gets really interesting if he can become more of a PG at that size. Bossi said they will re-label him a CG next update so he might be getting there.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Chatman has a real nice jump shot. Not a tremendous athlete but good size guard that can get his shot off and the release is money. That step back he has is big time

Yeah he gets really interesting if he can become more of a PG at that size. Bossi said they will re-label him a CG next update so he might be getting there.

Some highlights of play making off pick and roll. The jump shot pops though & that's good enough to get him in and figure out the rest

Kansas ac norm Robert was at imhotep charter PA tonight to see 2023 5 star Justin Edward's
Kansas has made his top 7

KU is in a great spot

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2023 Recruiting:

KU is in a great spot

I was surprised but yep.

Did we post this?

Layden Blocker will take an official to KU June 10-12. Last of 4 visits he has set up. Sunrise kid so teammate of incoming stud Gradey. Took an unofficial here in January. Fan of this one so interested to see what happens here

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Did we post this?

Layden Blocker will take an official to KU June 10-12. Last of 4 visits he has set up. Sunrise kid so teammate of incoming stud Gradey. Took an unofficial here in January. Fan of this one so interested to see what happens here

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Rayvon Griffith picked Cincinnati FYI

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Love this offer.

Good lord I don't think we need a center in the 23 class but this kid is...whew...mercy...

7'5'' wingspan??!

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

Good lord I don't think we need a center in the 23 class but this kid is...whew...mercy...

7'5'' wingspan??!

Be kind of hard to not offer I think - -ya I agree really don't need BUT top 25 recruit - -how can we not offer, really no different then getting recruited over like what's happening with Joe & Sam

Woo - Hoo we made the final 8 for the top shooting guard they say -6'5 SG JaKobe Walker out of Mckinney Texas list :

Alabama , Auburn , Baylor , Gonzaga , Seton Hall , Texas , UCLA , & KU as his final 8. -what ever happened to the final 3 - now it's final 10 - - -8 - - -5 lol - well we made the final 8. - He is rnaked by 247 sports as the 23 rd ranked player we shall see

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This is good for us.

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What does “want him on campus in July” mean? Visitor signed?

@Gorilla72 Want to get him in for an official visit this summer. Looking at his tape, I could see Bill trying to close the deal this summer before other heavies get involved.

Hmm, found this interesting . Just read where KU was the latest to offer this week , offered Xavier Brooks a 6"11 guy Currently ranked # 91 in the Nation out of Indianapolis Indiana BUT huge jump in the rankings expected when the updated come out at the end of the Month.

During the 2 live periods in April has been very impressive/Coach's impressed with the Combo of his size , length , ball handling ability , shot blocking , and the ability to score in the post or from deep. He can shoot the three , finish the lob , swat shots , and is a WELL ABOVE ball handler.

He now has over 20 offers , KU just offered this week , - -he has the entire Big Ten chasing hard after him - - Norte Dame , chasing hard after him - -& Duke and Kentucky now showing more interest.

Xavier had this to say about the KU offer : He was excited to get the offer , like he is with all offers, BUT he has been watching KU for awhile as he use to watch guys like Wiggins & Embiid , Xavier said it meant a lot to me they offered me a Scholarship and they are taking the time to really recruit me.

Just have to wonder - thought we were set with our 2023 Big's , yet here we are offering another 2023 big guy how serious who knows - sounds pretty decent , I think this is just another example of players getting recruited over. - -If they are really serious somebody else gonna be shown the door

Made Omaha Biliew's final four along with Oregon, ISU and the GLeague. Nice to be in on elite talent again after 2020!

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

Made Omaha Biliew's final four along with Oregon, ISU and the GLeague. Nice to be in on elite talent again after 2020!

I would probably watch out for the gleague

New offer Dennis Evans

@BShark Do you know what his wingspan is? I only ask because that thumbnail doesn't even look real.

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BShark Do you know what his wingspan is? I only ask because that thumbnail doesn't even look real.

Something absolutely freakish, but I don't know specifically sorry.

Ugonna Kingsley had been my top big man want. Don't think we could go wrong with either of these two if we take a big in the class.

Not sure we are getting traction with Kaden Cooper who got a huge bump to #49 in the class.

Cooper has locked in an official visit to Gonzaga for June 24th and said that he’s looking to set up dates with LSU and home state Oklahoma soon

Top 5 Forward Xavier Booker says KU will get one of his official visits.

Scotty Middelton has KU in his Top 5.

Top 25 Big Ugonna Kingsley has KU among the 3 schools he's interested in right now. KU, UK, Uconn. Defense well ahead of offense but he's known as a top level rim protector.

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Top 25 Big Ugonna Kingsley has KU among the 3 schools he's interested in right now. KU, UK, Uconn. Defense well ahead of offense but he's known as a top level rim protector.

I pray

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Top 25 Big Ugonna Kingsley has KU among the 3 schools he's interested in right now. KU, UK, Uconn. Defense well ahead of offense but he's known as a top level rim protector.

I pray

Not sure he's a need but I certainly wouldn't mind him coming here. Seems like he really likes Kentucky from what he says

@BeddieKU23 Yeah definitely read that way. It's possible we just don't even take a big in this class. Dennis Evans is another I would take.

Ok guys guess I just got to play ignorant - - again. I hadn't heard squat about any kind of KU/Mikey connection. Totally out of the loop while I was out of circut while in the Nursing Home/Hospital for these two weeks.

So I guess my question is is this just all media BS hot aire , OR is there any kind of flame to go along . All I've heard is that they were saying KU is IN DEEP with him. - -Is he as good as hyped ?

OK , so here is ANOTHER situation/scenario going on , talk off TOS about this and just curious. Do you all think that KU is in any way shape or form throwing out their feelers anyways testing Bronny James ?

Bronny has KU as one of his 5 schools of interest. So let's play this out, for the purpose of conversation hear say. Let's just say there is some substance to the recruitment of Bronny & KU. Personally I don't think there is a whisper of a chance of him ever landing but here is the question that is being tossed around. Would Bronny & Dad Lebron be to much of a negative drama thing if he were to come.

Would the negative out weigh the positive ? Now IF KU was actually serious in their recruitment Me - - just me I don't think the drama would be an issue just don't see it. - -Again really don't think there is anything to even worry about-- IF you are but that's the question. - we ( KU) seems look like we are positioned in on some big time talent for 23 hope it all works out

@jayballer67 he’s Nike all the way don’t waste your thoughts on it lol

If he came here I think Self has a talk with Lebron along the lines of I’m the coach and call the shots. If you have an issue come to me and keep it out of the media. If you can’t do that go elsewhere (he ain’t coming here anyways). Self seems to handle those tough conversations well he’s an honest Okie and doesn’t bs to players on their legitimacy of playing. Probably lost some recruits because of it be at least he’s respectful and got character.

Layden Blocker on campus today. High 4 star PG from Sunrise.

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Layden Blocker on campus today. High 4 star PG from Sunrise.

He has canceled his visit and he doesn't know when or if he will reschedule

@kuballin10 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67 he’s Nike all the way don’t waste your thoughts on it lol

If he came here I think Self has a talk with Lebron along the lines of I’m the coach and call the shots. If you have an issue come to me and keep it out of the media. If you can’t do that go elsewhere (he ain’t coming here anyways). Self seems to handle those tough conversations well he’s an honest Okie and doesn’t bs to players on their legitimacy of playing. Probably lost some recruits because of it be at least he’s respectful and got character.

I have to agree and think your exactly right. Plus and this is just a scenario IF for some reason he did - -Like you said Self is not a guy that's gonna cater to some self centered parent not saying Lebron is by any means. - That's why we would of never of put up with ny of teh Ball's because of daddy. Coach makes sure they know who the Coach of the team is and how it's going to be period.

I'm sure Bronny is decent but seems like KU is in a position where we in good with some top tier players. This whole post by me was in reality for casual conversation & for sure not losing any sleep on Bronny. Thanks for your input bud

Bronny is going wherever offers the best NIL deal which will probably end up being Duke followed by Kentucky. I don't see him going the G-League route at this point because of NIL because Bronny is someone who could pull in 8 figures from NIL deals in college.

As far as actual ability, I'd absolutely take him in heartbeat if he wanted to come to KU. Skillwise, he's not a OAD and he needs to develop his PG skills to reach the NBA and he'd be playing off the ball at KU which is currently his best position. I also don't know if he'd start at KU over Harris, Pettiford, and McCullar if he came back for year two at KU. That's also on top of if Dick or Rice are around for year two, I think it's more likely Rice is than Dick.

Even though Bronny is a good player that I'd love to have, I don't know that KU would be a great fit for him and that's without factoring in NIL. I think with everything factored in, Bronny's joining the Brotherhood for a year.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Bronny is going wherever offers the best NIL deal which will probably end up being Duke followed by Kentucky. I don't see him going the G-League route at this point because of NIL because Bronny is someone who could pull in 8 figures from NIL deals in college.

As far as actual ability, I'd absolutely take him in heartbeat if he wanted to come to KU. Skillwise, he's not a OAD and he needs to develop his PG skills to reach the NBA and he'd be playing off the ball at KU which is currently his best position. I also don't know if he'd start at KU over Harris, Pettiford, and McCullar if he came back for year two at KU. That's also on top of if Dick or Rice are around for year two, I think it's more likely Rice is than Dick.

Even though Bronny is a good player that I'd love to have, I don't know that KU would be a great fit for him and that's without factoring in NIL. I think with everything factored in, Bronny's joining the Brotherhood for a year.

Not saying you are right or wrong but if true, I just don't understand. If your dad is literally a billionaire, why would money decide where you go to college? Makes no sense. I would have thought best chance of winning a title would be top attraction for him. But I'm just a dumb fan and don't know.

Blocker - -- forget about it. - -he not even sure if he is going to re-schedule. Wonder why the change of heart ?

There is no world where having a top 5 basketball player of all time near our program would be a bad thing.

@RockkChalkk Because billionaires clearly don't make decisions based on money. Also, no college basketball recruit has ever made a decision about what school to attend based on money.

Bronny will end up with the highest bidder which will probably be Duke.

Still waiting for someone to answer me and tel me if there is any chance in hell we some how could get this worked out where Mikey Williams could end up here

Does anyone know if KU is in a really solid spot to land a commit so far in 2023?- I've heard/read/seen where we have offered but not really seen where we are leading for ANYBODY .

Don't need anyone coming with the obvious statement well it's early don't worry Bil always get a good group. - To that I say - - Thanks Captain Obvious. just haven't really heard a lot of positive where it's at that almost a given kid coming , of course again going to depend on roster turnover , portals and such - -just curious.

Dam the way it looks on paper anyways you might as well just mail the trophy to Duke for 2023 , I don't get it. Sure I could see it some with K being there BUT SCHEYER ? really ?- -come on I mean dam.

Yet you look at what they got coming in - - 5 * - -Dereck Lively # 1 Center in the class - - 5 * - -Deriq Whitehead - - SF - - -5 * Kyle Felipowski C - - - -5 * Mark Mitchell - PF - -got a kid that re- classified - -was a 5 * but fell to 4 8 because of Re- Classification - -Tyrese Procter - - Jacob Grandison - -another 4 * Jaden Schutt. - -they got the top 2 Centers of the class. - -Now they also in heavy on ANOTHER CENTER JP Estrella. - -hell just call it a day - Just don't see how they get all that talent

Taisan Chatman will likely take an official visit to KU in the fall. The 4 star SG is one to watch apparently. #38 composite, #26 on 247.

Uconn, Xavier, Virginia also getting visits.

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Taisan Chatman will likely take an official visit to KU in the fall. The 4 star SG is one to watch apparently. #38 composite, #26 on 247.

Uconn, Xavier, Virginia also getting visits.

Long combo guard, decent shot. Self splooged

From Bossi

"Kansas loves Chatman. They'll be in Minnesota to watch him this weekend as part of the first of June's two scholastic periods."

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@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

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Love this offer. Kid has blew up this summer and you can still see he has another level to get to with weight training.

@TYOHawk He'd be one of my top targets if I were the staff..

@TYOHawk That's Jalen Green little brother

@NormRoberts They are not actually related per Eric Bossi. Super close though, and I think AJ's dad is Jalen's step dad or something like that.

All the highlight videos of course say JALEN GREEN'S LITTLE BROTHER. lol

Bossi thinks KU will go "all-in" here. In contention to be a 5 star prospect. Huge upside still.

Happy visit szn, Bucketeers!

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2023 Recruiting:

Happy visit szn, Bucketeers!

Chatman confirmed, maybe Mikey :eyes:

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2023 Recruiting:

Happy visit szn, Bucketeers!

Chatman confirmed, maybe Mikey :eyes:

I still have no idea what they’re doing re: Mikey but maybe there’s some pixie dust they can use to wave away all the $$ stuff

@FarmerJayhawk If Bill pulls THAT ONE off I will be entirely on my bullshit on twitter.

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2023 Recruiting:

Happy visit szn, Bucketeers!

Yay that would be nice

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2023 Recruiting:

Happy visit szn, Bucketeers!

Chatman confirmed, maybe Mikey :eyes:

mercy, what a coo that would be. if we got both some how to come would be a sweet class

Chatman OV this weekend. Nice!

AJ Johnson mentions his intentions to visit KU in the future. Recruitment is shall we say heating up

Well read where Jacobe Walter committed to Baylor. - -Considered the # 1 overall shooting guard in the class and the # 21 recruit in the Nation. Scot is becoming a real pain in the ass

@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Well read where Jacobe Walter committed to Baylor. - -Considered the # 1 overall shooting guard in the class and the # 21 recruit in the Nation. Scot is becoming a real pain in the ass

I agree he really is, but we/the conference needs the competition. The conference grind as I like to call it helped everyone out in March and April.

Well, every year I wait til the current year’s recruiting class is settled before digging into the next year’s recruiting thread.
(2023).

Somehow I still don’t feel like the team is set!

But maybe it’s time ...

Layden Blocker to Arkansas

Probably already been mentioned some where in here but Chris Johnson is going to be on Campus I think Monday - -and we all know Mikey is coming - -and remember the phrase let's get Mikey. Mikey likes everything. Soooo if Mikeys likes it then good news for KU lol

@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Probably already been mentioned some where in here but Chris Johnson is going to be on Campus I think Monday - -and we all know Mikey is coming - -and remember the phrase let's get Mikey. Mikey likes everything. Soooo if Mikeys likes it then good news for KU lol

Those two and Chatman are names I would follow.

If Bshark says it I would believe it.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Probably already been mentioned some where in here but Chris Johnson is going to be on Campus I think Monday - -and we all know Mikey is coming - -and remember the phrase let's get Mikey. Mikey likes everything. Soooo if Mikeys likes it then good news for KU lol

Those two and Chatman are names I would follow.

I could live with that. - Might sound silly /crazy but the longer this goes the more serious and the better chance I think this whole Mikey thing just might become a reality

Mikey on Campus today. - -wonder is it official or un official ?

@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Mikey on Campus today. - -wonder is it official or un official ?

Official

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Mikey on Campus today. - -wonder is it official or un official ?

Official

Thats even a little better then right ? - - I mean if he is using one of his Official visits for KU? - must be more then an eh - - ok I'll stop by. Gotta be a little more serious contention right ?

@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Mikey on Campus today. - -wonder is it official or un official ?

Official

Thats even a little better then right ? - - I mean if he is using one of his Official visits for KU? - must be more then an eh - - ok I'll stop by. Gotta be a little more serious contention right ?

Man, I've got zero feel on this whatsoever. Mikey could easily pay his own way considering how much he makes from Puma. And I doubt he uses all 5 officials, so I guess no harm here.

New offer out to 2023 unranked guard Elmarko Jackson 6'3 from South Kent CT.

Safe to say he's going to be ranked soon with a ton of new offers in the past month from Virginia, Tennessee, Minnesota, Oklahoma, Miami, Penn St, St Johns, Kansas St, Depaul. Recently visited Maryland and he's in no rush to decide

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

New offer out to 2023 unranked guard Elmarko Jackson 6'3 from South Kent CT.

Safe to say he's going to be ranked soon with a ton of new offers in the past month from Virginia, Tennessee, Minnesota, Oklahoma, Miami, Penn St, St Johns, Kansas St, Depaul. Recently visited Maryland and he's in no rush to decide

ya, sounds like he is just getting really noticed now I reckon

Reada an article where KU is recruiting 7'1 post man Dennis Evans 210 pounds - -averages nearly 7 blocks a game. - he said KU had been in contact with him - - ALOT- - # 18 according to 247 sports - seen some video - -needs to add some weight but DAM 7 blocks.

KU - -Minnesota - - Florida State - - TCU -- San Diego St. - - - KU - -San Diego State and another the ones with most contact

@jayballer67

Big upside on Evans especially at his size. I'd say he's a work in progress as far as being a complete player but his jump into the Top 20 is taking into account the long term potential he has.

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67

Big upside on Evans especially at his size. I'd say he's a work in progress as far as being a complete player but his jump into the Top 20 is taking into account the long term potential he has.

seen a little on him not to bad - -but mercy those nearly 7 blocks a game sticks out. - - He says we hitting him all the time - - you think we legit trying to get this kid - - might be a nice pickup 7'1

@jayballer67

It sounds like we are after him. Ideal rim protector/lob guy. Not sure of need especially if Udeh/Zuby/Zach are around for a while.

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67

It sounds like we are after him. Ideal rim protector/lob guy. Not sure of need especially if Udeh/Zuby/Zach are around for a while.

ya , that's my question. I mean exactly right sounds like huge rim protecter , just didn't get why with the others we got. Don't get me wrong who am I to question Bill I'd be fine if he did come

Not sure if we take a 5, but if we do he is up there on the list.

On Dennis Evans, I would drop everything to recruit this kid. At that size, with that coordination, his potential is basically unlimited.

Lots of things stand out to me, but I will only list a few.

1) he's currently listed at 7-1, 210. Just natural development will probably have him at 225 by the time he gets on campus, and once he gets into a strength program, going to 240 is easily within reach. That will change his ceiling dramatically all on its own.

2) He has a soft touch already. That is critical since it is important for big guys to be able to shoot a little to prevent getting mauled in the post.

3) He's quick enough to handle guards out away from the basket, and he's so long that even if they create some space, it's probably not enough to get up a shot that he cannot bother.

4) He's a natural lefty, but he blocks shots with either hand (or both).

Basically, he's got all of the tools already, and you can be confident that he's going to get stronger as he gets older. He isn't as far along offensively, but that is something that could happen quickly because he already can shoot. He could be a top 5 player in his class by the time November gets here.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

Not sure if we take a 5, but if we do he is up there on the list.

That's just it BShark. If Udeh , Zuby & Zach are still here which I don't see anyway they won't be - then the question becomes - - WHY is Coach even recruting a 5. - Since he is it looks like then I think this kid is for sure we could use. - -So are we intrestd seriously on this kid or what ?

@jayballer67 Zuby is not a 5, he's a 4. Zach Clemence has the skill set and ability to play the 4 in college since he can play away from the basket.

If a top 20 player who could move up further is interested in your program, you recruit him because you need talent and depth to win championships.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67 Zuby is not a 5, he's a 4. Zach Clemence has the skill set and ability to play the 4 in college since he can play away from the basket.

If a top 20 player who could move up further is interested in your program, you recruit him because you need talent and depth to win championships.

As long as Bill sticks with the 4 out (whether 2/2/1 or 1/3/1 guard/wing/big) Zuby won't play the 4 here.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67 Zuby is not a 5, he's a 4. Zach Clemence has the skill set and ability to play the 4 in college since he can play away from the basket.

If a top 20 player who could move up further is interested in your program, you recruit him because you need talent and depth to win championships.

Agree with @Texas-Hawk-10 here. If a potential top 5 recruit that could be a top 5 NBA draft pick is even remotely interested in coming to play for you, you make those phone calls and set up those visits.

Even if Dennis Evans doesn't improve to his full potential, he can already help a college team right now with his size and agility. But if he does improve to his potential, look out because he could end up being the best player on a college team.

AJ or Mikey with Dennis in this class would have me elated.

@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:

WHY is Coach even recruting a 5

See Golden State Warriors. What exactly is a 5 in that system?

Everyone moves and can switch. When everyone is an outside scoring threat and athletic enough to finish at the basket it's pretty formidable.

Reading that Scotty is looking to make his College Choice by the 18th of July. - -I think if we wanted him hard - - he would be ours but I just think maybe aiming a little higher. Could be wrong have been n many times before. I wouldn't be upset if he landed here just think we have other players maybe we are after harder. - - I think Scotty lands at U Conn.

We ar one of the final 4, well it was 5 but he never visited Tex a & m - I just don't think in the end run they are in serious contention of the remaining schools

New offer https://247sports.com/player/tj-power-46103238/ ↗

@BeddieKU23 from your neck of the woods

@BShark

Yepp. Guess the 41pt effort caught their attention. Would be a "4" here. Can shoot it and has good ball skills. Looks like he's taken OV's to UVA & Iowa so far.

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I am now actually taking Tang seriously.

So guys. does anyone have a feel , any kind of inside scoop , rumor or anything on how we feel about our Chances to land : - - Taison Chatman - -and or Chris Johnson - or both. Haven't heard to much promising yet I know we will be fine just curious ?

Does anyone think we would actually get Mikey ? - -if he wanted - -do we take him ?

@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:

So guys. does anyone have a feel , any kind of inside scoop , rumor or anything on how we feel about our Chances to land : - - Taison Chatman - -and or Chris Johnson - or both. Haven't heard to much promising yet I know we will be fine just curious ?

Does anyone think we would actually get Mikey ? - -if he wanted - -do we take him ?

Mikey Williams will follow the money. Whatever option makes him the most money whether it's NIL or pro is where he'll end up. If he goes the college route and wants to come to KU, yes KU should take him because he is a very good player and plays a position of need for KU's 2023 class.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:

So guys. does anyone have a feel , any kind of inside scoop , rumor or anything on how we feel about our Chances to land : - - Taison Chatman - -and or Chris Johnson - or both. Haven't heard to much promising yet I know we will be fine just curious ?

Does anyone think we would actually get Mikey ? - -if he wanted - -do we take him ?

Mikey Williams will follow the money. Whatever option makes him the most money whether it's NIL or pro is where he'll end up. If he goes the college route and wants to come to KU, yes KU should take him because he is a very good player and plays a position of need for KU's 2023 class.

ya probably true and probably pro

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

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I am now actually taking Tang seriously.

I’m not until he wins some games. A 60th ranked player in 23 is more like a fringe top 100 in stronger years

@jayballer67 With his social media following, I think college and NIL money is where he'll end up. He has almost 4 million followers on Instagram so he's one of those guys who could potentially rake in 8 figures in NIL money in college. That's not likely to happen if he goes pro instead of college.

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

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I am now actually taking Tang seriously.

I’m not until he wins some games. A 60th ranked player in 23 is more like a fringe top 100 in stronger years

Even if he is decent as a freshman, keeping him in Manhattan for 4 years with the new rules is easier said than done.

For those who follow recruiting much more closely, why is it that KU has zero commits in the 2023 class? And, seemingly nothing more than a "warm" with anyone on the 247 list? Duke and UK each have 5-6 commits or 100% predictions in the top 50. Several other schools have multiple top 50 commits.

@Kcmatt7 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

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I am now actually taking Tang seriously.

I’m not until he wins some games. A 60th ranked player in 23 is more like a fringe top 100 in stronger years

Even if he is decent as a freshman, keeping him in Manhattan for 4 years with the new rules is easier said than done.

This is fair.

@DCHawker said in 2023 Recruiting:

For those who follow recruiting much more closely, why is it that KU has zero commits in the 2023 class? And, seemingly nothing more than a "warm" with anyone on the 247 list? Duke and UK each have 5-6 commits or 100% predictions in the top 50. Several other schools have multiple top 50 commits.

My guess is KU only ends needing to fill 2-4 slots and will be highly selective. TECHNICALLY only Cam Martin will be coming off the books but I would bank on Jalen leaving, and probably McCullar as well. As mentioned it is a weak class, so outside of landing someone like a Mikey Williams, I could see the staff wanting experienced talent.

In addition to Mikey, some names to know: Chris Johnson, Taison Chatman and Kaden Cooper. Wings is where we will likely need to add some guys and 3/4 here are wings. Bigs are basically set. Dennis Evans is very interesting but I could see not adding a big at all. I think you take Evans if he wants to come and figure it out.

@FarmerJayhawk might have some more insight.

@DCHawker

Not sure the staff has pushed for a commitment from anyone. They have had plenty of visitors but all of them are still going through the process. It's a down class as well so I think that adds to being selective. Personally I hope we turn the heat up. I think we will see enough turnover to need 3/4 guys. Take 1-2 guys early and then focus on best available in portal and late signing guys.

I know a lot of guys are coming off the board early so I get the concern.

Chris Johnson taking an official on June 25th. Perhaps that will be one to seriously watch!

@BeddieKU23 yes

It's still early yet, so not a ton to report. If I had to wager, I'd say there will be 4-5 spots open (Martin, McCullar, Wilson, a wing, maayyybe Yesufu since he'll graduate). So based on that, you take a big, a wing, and 2-3 other skill guys. The line gets fuzzy between wing and combo guard, so it might be useful just to categorize as big, wing, PG. Mikey is a take anytime. I believe they'd take Chatman or Johnson right now too. TJ Power is kind of a mystery right now since he went supernova. If we get Mikey I think you'll see us go back to two guards, two wings, and a big.

Don't think Kaden Cooper is a target. He visited Gonzaga & is looking to set up visits to LSU, Texas & Alabama.

Dennis Evans is coming for Late Night. Will be one to watch for sure.

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2023 Recruiting:

Dennis Evans is coming for Late Night. Will be one to watch for sure.

I think this s a no lose situation. We have plenty of inside presence coming up But if Evans still wanted to come - - - -- hell ya with his rim protection and other things he has got goin I'd take him

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Don't think Kaden Cooper is a target. He visited Gonzaga & is looking to set up visits to LSU, Texas & Alabama.

Yeah writing is kinda on the wall. Compare how it progressed with him and how the Chatman and CJ ones are going.

Chris Johnson in the house now - - w got a legit shot with him I think right ? --- - --

Chris Johnson... wow! Watch his clips here:

https://www2.kusports.com/news/mens_basketball/ ↗

He's as gifted as I've seen in combo guards. He shows about every quality to the game in these clips.

I'd hope he would stick around for a couple of seasons though because OADs aren't the best ticket to a NC.

My question... does he play well with others? Team player? I think we've all come to learn a huge lesson from Och. That kid was 100% team player and totally supported his teammates... and without that attitude, no way we win it all!

@drgnslayr

His scouting report from 247 was interesting.

Johnson is a big guard with size and strength alike. He changes speeds, protects the ball at a high level going through the lane, and can score the ball in numerous ways inside the arc. He needs to keep progressing as a three-point threat with both inconsistent mechanics and a bit of a hard ball. Defensively, he has tools that should eventually be able to translate at a high level, although he has yet to make that end of the floor a consistent priority. Overall, he is confident, physical, and plays with an edge, that can be either a competitive advantage or disadvantage depending on how it is impacting him.

One common theme through C/O 23 scouts is language like “needs to keep progressing” and “has the tools” because these kids (through no fault of their own) are way behind.

@drgnslayr said in 2023 Recruiting:

Chris Johnson... wow! Watch his clips here:

https://www2.kusports.com/news/mens_basketball/ ↗

He's as gifted as I've seen in combo guards. He shows about every quality to the game in these clips.

I'd hope he would stick around for a couple of seasons though because OADs aren't the best ticket to a NC.

My question... does he play well with others? Team player? I think we've all come to learn a huge lesson from Och. That kid was 100% team player and totally supported his teammates... and without that attitude, no way we win it all!

That little mid range jumper reminds me of McCullar.

Hey guys have to apologize in advance for this lengthy post I'm getting ready to post but just wanted to share a few snippet's & some thoughts here. Ok 1st thing here is my opinion I fully realize that we are pretty loaded in big coming up right? - - yet Just saying if this kid wants to come your a fool not to take him aren't you ?

Dennis Evans 7'1 & 210 lbs and currently # 12 in the Nation. The # 2 ranked center in the class this kid is jumping the scales left and right. Evans has jumped 129 spots in the latest rivals. He has went from being unrnnked- -to the # 141 player - - -to the 12th ranked player. People saying he for sure a top 10 ranked player. , the big thing about his ranking reason took longer is stayed playing at a public School instead of going to play for a shoe company. .Elvert Perry has been Coaching him since he was 10. Perry said they just played in the States and he averaged a triple double in Scoring , blocks & rebounds. - Saying he avraged around 13-14 blocks per game.

He can score in the paint - - and yet step outside far from a one dimensional player. He can score with either hand , he can up & under--- he is 7'2 with a 7'7 wing span. 37 inch vertical. - he really likes KU they said even though other schools have entered the picture , Evans says Ku & Minnesota & TCU have seperated themselves.

They also said the deal with Coach Self & Townsend doesn't bother them, - -saying Dennis really doesn't care about blue blood schools or not even though he really likes KU. He says him and Townsend have developed a great relationship. This guy that has been his Coach said that HE had been to KU before and the reason for late night was hewanted Dennis to be able to see the culture of KU. Other things I wanted to mentioned but the story just got knocked off.

All I'm saying is if Dennis Evans is sold on KU , I don't car how amny big's we have these things have a way to work themselves out - - he wants to come then -- we need to find a way for him on this roster

@jayballer67 On top of that, Evans looks like a dead ringer for David Ruffin of The Temptations ! (Hope he turns out better than David did.)

https://www.kansas.rivals.com/news/five-star-big-man-dennis-evans-has-scheduled-an-official-visit-to-kansas/ ↗

https://www.udiscovermusic.com/stories/best-david-ruffin-songs/ ↗

https://www.247sports.com/Player/Dennis-Evans-46117498/ ↗

@nwhawkfan said in 2023 Recruiting:

https://www.247sports.com/Player/Dennis-Evans-46117498/ ↗

Ya was reading off Jayhawk Slant. I just don't see how we WOULD NOT take this kid if he wanted to commit. - super upside. has a really sweet left jump hook, beast rim defender , and the article keeps talking about how he likes Ku and a relationshi with townsend. - say people say he is like Jo Jo - obviously not s big in bulk - -for me I'm hoping - -Although have heard some about Minnesota bein good shape

@BeddieKU23

Of course, the clips are "best of" so tend not to show "work in progress." But I saw a lot in those clips... great vision for passing, basketball EQ, crossover capable, competitive and communicator, size and quickness... the guy is smooth and scores in various ways including while guarded he created scoring space.

He looks like he could become a quality defender.

I just can't recall seeing so many gifts in a few minutes of tape. I'm sure he is like most young players and needs time to adapt to D1, but he has a big toolset going in!

Does anyone know... is there a list already started for Late Night attendees?

@drgnslayr

Playing at Montverde as well which is one of the premiere schools. I'm hopeful here. I really like his game.

KU made AJ Johnson's top 8 (plus he's considering G-League). No visit to KU set up although he mentions possibly setting something up. Doesn't seem to know much about KU at this stage. I'd consider this one an extreme longshot

@BeddieKU23

If he's contemplating turning pro out of HS maybe he's not a great catch. I'd rather steer clear of OADs. We score big on him sticking around more than one year.

Sounds like KU did a really good job with Johnson on his visit. 247 guy is close to putting in a CB. Jeremy Case leading the recruitment here. Sounds very, very promising!

@BeddieKU23 !alt text ↗

KU is actually really well positioned. C/O '23 looks to be a bit of a down class. That's not surprising since those kids missed half a year of development when they were freshmen. That's a huge loss in court time and coaching.

But KU will have a fairly experienced group returning in Fall of '23. Harris will be back. I'm guessing Cuffe will still be on the roster. Yesufu, Pettiford, Clemence, Adams, Ejifor and Udeh are more or less locks to return as well. I figure either Rice or Dick is back (probably both). You can make a very strong 8 man rotation out of that group without adding a single player. If KU brings in two guys that can fit into that rotation, they are a contender for a #1 seed, deep tournament run, etc.

The quality of the current roster means KU doesn't need tons of help in 2023. Dennis Evans is so talented, he's an obvious addition if he wants to join up. Chris Johnson could be an interesting fit. I don't love his shooting stroke, but I do love his vision and athleticism. The challenge for KU is finding minutes for any additions considering that it's doubtful Self takes minutes away from a RS-junior Harris, RS-sophomores Pettiford and Cuffe, sophomores Dick, Rice, junior Yesufu - that's six perimeter guys. Even if someone in that group isn't getting minutes this season anyway, or leaves due to attrition, finding minutes for more than one more perimeter guy is going to be tough unless at least two of those guys are gone.

In the post, minutes are even tighter. Clemence, Ejifor, Udeh, and possibly Adams (although I think he plays both the 3 and 4 this year) are all likely to be back for the 23/24 season. Playing more than 4 interior guys is tough, and even if Adams splits time on the perimeter (a tough ask given how loaded the perimeter rotation is this year), there's just not much room. Evans is reason to make room, but even if they do that, someone is the odd man out

There just isn't roster space for KU to grab a ton of guys in 2023. These things have a way of sorting themselves out, but KU only needs to add 2 or maybe 3 players, and even then, the rotation is probably pretty crowded, especially inside.

@justanotherfan 2 wings and a guard probably. 1 wing for sure. Of course if you can get it done for Evans, you do it. I could see looking at the portal for most spots. Especially since most departures could be up in the air.

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Sounds like KU did a really good job with Johnson on his visit. 247 guy is close to putting in a CB. Jeremy Case leading the recruitment here. Sounds very, very promising!

I think Johnson would be a very sweet catch - -very solid

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@justanotherfan 2 wings and a guard probably. 1 wing for sure. Of course if you can get it done for Evans, you do it. I could see looking at the portal for most spots. Especially since most departures could be up in the air.

I prefer 2 wings and a thigh when i order from El Pollo Loco. Mmm, El Pollo Loco...

Would be more than fine with just taking Mikey, Evans and Chris Johnson as the class.

@TYOHawk

About as good of a trio as is realistically possible.

TJ Power would be other one I'd want but doesn't feel like we are in a great position there currently.

@BeddieKU23 He wanted to schedule only 2 blue blood visits He decided on visiting Duke who already have 10 5 stars for the class and UNC who offered him after they lost GG Jackson. He have have relatives who went to UNC most likely he goes there.

Chris Johnson will be announce his college decision on Tuesday August 2nd

@JAYHAWKFAN214 Election Day

@Crimsonorblue22 Bit of a big one on the ballot this time too...

If he lands here and commits on the 2nd - - Will be a great Birthday present for me. - - Birthday on the 2nd - - Wedding Anniversary on the 2nd. What more could I ask for lol

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@Crimsonorblue22 Bit of a big one on the ballot this time too...

Man that 109th House primary is a BARN BURNER

Also Chris Johnson is good and we should be happy he’s a Jayhawk

@FarmerJayhawk LOL

What I learned from Arkansas fans (as they were hot on Johnson as well)- they think their home arena is better then Allen Fieldhouse. You can't make this stuff up

@BeddieKU23 lol!

@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 lol!

Yes they do think that

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

What I learned from Arkansas fans (as they were hot on Johnson as well)- they think their home arena is better then Allen Fieldhouse. You can't make this stuff up

Their thread about this on the 247 board is solid gold. Musselman is better than Self! LOL

Elijah Gertrude a 6'3 Guard out of Huson NJ. 1st time heard anything about him , talking about working on relationship with KU looking to visit , probably he said after School starts - -he is all about Dense , defense , defense it was said. - -Don't think really anything serious but who kows'

I guess we are still in on JP Estrella also just visited Iowa and planned trip to Syracuse , another one I knew we were after early but don't know how serious we are still persuing this kid now

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

What I learned from Arkansas fans (as they were hot on Johnson as well)- they think their home arena is better then Allen Fieldhouse. You can't make this stuff up

Their thread about this on the 247 board is solid gold. Musselman is better than Self! LOL

Talk about a fanbase drinking some serious Kool aid from a pond in the Ozarks

@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 lol!

I wish I was kidding. Methzu and K St level crazy

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

What I learned from Arkansas fans (as they were hot on Johnson as well)- they think their home arena is better then Allen Fieldhouse. You can't make this stuff up

Their thread about this on the 247 board is solid gold. Musselman is better than Self! LOL

Talk about a fanbase drinking some serious Kool aid from a pond in the Ozarks

Arkansas borders Missouri. Rly makes u think.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

What I learned from Arkansas fans (as they were hot on Johnson as well)- they think their home arena is better then Allen Fieldhouse. You can't make this stuff up

Their thread about this on the 247 board is solid gold. Musselman is better than Self! LOL

Talk about a fanbase drinking some serious Kool aid from a pond in the Ozarks

Arkansas borders Missouri. Rly makes u think.

I should have known. My geography was slipping today

I'll take some Mr Johnson for my birthday present tomorrow & Thank you lol

Well today's the day

Chris Johnson has committed to Kansas

Welcome Chris you made the right choice.

Rock Chalk

For your viewing pleasure. One of the best highlight tapes I’ve seen in a while. Shows off his court awareness, ability to change pace, make quick decisions, and finish at and away from the rim.

Johnson was quoted as saying from the 1st minute he stepped onto the KU campus he knew this is where he belonged , where he wanted to go , even the School wasn't in session. Loved the Campus, talked about his relationship with Case and talking with Coach Self. - -good to hear

The thing I like best about Chris Johnson is the suddenness that he plays with. When you watch him, his moves are all very sudden. I'm not sure how quick he is, but the suddenness that everything happens with makes his first step seem even more dangerous.

That shot delivery uncurls a bit slower than I am comfortable with, but he can make shots, so cleaning up form is always possible. I'd be more worried if he were a poor shooter. He's more of an average shooter, but there is potential there.

Johnson could be the athletic combo guard we have been missing. He's a point that could slide to the wing, so I think he could fit into a variety of lineups (especially if the shooting improves). I'm still not 100% sure what the depth chart will look like, but when you can add talent, you add talent.

@justanotherfan yep, that change of pace. I suppose if he can be sudden enough to create space for his shot then he'll be fine.

That change of pace is why Frank Mason was so good at getting to the basket. He wasn't just blazing through the paint, he changed it up, kept people off balance, was prepared with floaters, etc. I love that kind of play.

I think Evans actually has some serious interest in KU. , question is does KU have Serious interest in Evans ? - -I hope so - -I think we would be in good shape is we show some love for the kid. - You can nevre have enough good quality big men - the bonus here is Evans is a serious rim protector. - - Whay ya think ?

@jayballer67 your last sentence is exactly why we should offer.

Bills D with a legit rim protector is borderline unfair.

I can’t say if Gertrude is a KU level guy or not. But I do think we could see a situation where the only two guards we have for sure on next years roster are Bobby and Dajuan. In this scenario I’m counting MJ and Gradey as wings obviously.

I could see us taking Mikey and then going after a transfer in the portal.

Well I know not our recruiting ( KU ) But just saw where K/State Coach Tang landed another 4 * SG today. - -RJ Jones - - Looks like this Tang guy is no joke, he has a pretty dang good class sitting up , he keeps going gonna make me mad lol. trying to make them into something

I know you guys might have stronger sentiments, but my dislike was always for Bruce and not for K. State. I enjoyed the Huggins and Martin years.

@TYOHawk All the Guards are taken for this class Never say someone isn't a KU guy.We give out scholarships like candy but because Coach Self believes he can develop anyone definitely proved me wrong with a 2 star in Och and Cb becoming First rounders but we had to take those players because recruiting was at our lowest But if a guy wants to Commit they'll take him on the spot Mikey would be great but can't wait on his decision he could announce next spring if he wants to. I really want Taison for the last guard commit the Adidas Scoring leader at 24 ppg over the summer. But if we can't have either those 2 than Jamari then Gertrude the last option. I also see Cuffe transferring after this year because of no minutes in the future so portal player for us

@approxinfinity said in 2023 Recruiting:

I know you guys might have stronger sentiments, but my dislike was always for Bruce and not for K. State. I enjoyed the Huggins and Martin years.

Actually in all honesty maybe they will be better, just that much better for the strength of the conference , just that much tougher , no cake walks

@approxinfinity said in 2023 Recruiting:

I know you guys might have stronger sentiments, but my dislike was always for Bruce and not for K. State. I enjoyed the Huggins and Martin years.

KState is the annoying little brother. Missouri is the one I hate.

@KirkIsMyHinrich this exactly.

one time target Scottie Middleton commits to Ohio St

Article on 247 this morning mentioned Gertrude being very similar to Jaden Ivey when Ivey was a prep prospect. I’m intrigued…

@TYOHawk said in 2023 Recruiting:

Article on 247 this morning mentioned Gertrude being very similar to Jaden Ivey when Ivey was a prep prospect. I’m intrigued…

Watched some youtube and he is intriguing. Athleticism and length are there for sure.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@TYOHawk said in 2023 Recruiting:

Article on 247 this morning mentioned Gertrude being very similar to Jaden Ivey when Ivey was a prep prospect. I’m intrigued…

Watched some youtube and he is intriguing. Athleticism and length are there for sure.

I think you and I both may have missed the boat on this guy man. - The Anylsts that he is talking about talks about how he might end up making the biggest jump of any player in rankings. - -Scored from all 3 levels long arms and explosive athletic to quote the article , Saying behind the scene's he has been one of the hottest names all Spring & Summer - -having said that I just don't think there is room for him - -I mean I know we are losing 2 after the year but other then that - -then we have other possibilities like Mikey - - & Dennis to use any available on- - I don't know man

FYI. - - some early numbers of composite score of 23 team rankings : - - - Iowa State # 4 - - - -Kansas State # 8 - - -Baylor # 9 - - - Texas Tech # 13 - - -KU # 27 - - -Oklahoma State # 32 - - -Oklahoma # 35 - - - & TCU # 53.

We know this will change but just where things are at the present

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@TYOHawk said in 2023 Recruiting:

Article on 247 this morning mentioned Gertrude being very similar to Jaden Ivey when Ivey was a prep prospect. I’m intrigued…

Watched some youtube and he is intriguing. Athleticism and length are there for sure.

Sounds like he is going to see a major bump in rankings soon. If he sets a visit here I'm very intrigued to see if they press, they seem legitimately interested in him

KU did not make TJ Power's Top 5. Definitely was trending that way. He's bound for one end or the other end of tobacco road if I had to guess

@BeddieKU23 Correct. KU had no shot.

Didn't he have family who went to UNC? I'd guess he probably ends up there.

I think I’m getting a sense of our 2023 strategy. Take raw tools and develop. None of the more recent targets are close to finished products or really even going to help as freshmen.

@FarmerJayhawk Bill telling them they can play right away. Wink wink. :goat:

Elmarko Jackson blurb. No wonder why Self is after him, Frank Mason mentioned vibes

If his resume from last month did not speak enough volumes, Elmarko Jackson once again has completely taken advantage of the platform presented to him.

The biggest thing that blew me away when watching him play was his ability to get wherever he needed to with a combination of elite burst and physicality. He brings Frank Mason vibes due to his strength, athleticism, and high evolving skill level.

The month of July was great to him as he collected in eye-opening offers from the likes of Kansas, UCLA, and Villanova. Add in schools such as Miami, Maryland, and Texas in the picture, and we are talking about a point guard who is bound to make a leap in the rankings because of his ability to immediately help each of those programs win in some form or fashion.*

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Elmarko Jackson blurb. No wonder why Self is after him, Frank Mason mentioned vibes

If his resume from last month did not speak enough volumes, Elmarko Jackson once again has completely taken advantage of the platform presented to him.

The biggest thing that blew me away when watching him play was his ability to get wherever he needed to with a combination of elite burst and physicality. He brings Frank Mason vibes due to his strength, athleticism, and high evolving skill level.

The month of July was great to him as he collected in eye-opening offers from the likes of Kansas, UCLA, and Villanova. Add in schools such as Miami, Maryland, and Texas in the picture, and we are talking about a point guard who is bound to make a leap in the rankings because of his ability to immediately help each of those programs win in some form or fashion.*

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Elmarko Jackson blurb. No wonder why Self is after him, Frank Mason mentioned vibes

If his resume from last month did not speak enough volumes, Elmarko Jackson once again has completely taken advantage of the platform presented to him.

The biggest thing that blew me away when watching him play was his ability to get wherever he needed to with a combination of elite burst and physicality. He brings Frank Mason vibes due to his strength, athleticism, and high evolving skill level.

The month of July was great to him as he collected in eye-opening offers from the likes of Kansas, UCLA, and Villanova. Add in schools such as Miami, Maryland, and Texas in the picture, and we are talking about a point guard who is bound to make a leap in the rankings because of his ability to immediately help each of those programs win in some form or fashion.*

OK, so I got lost , who is this ElMarko Jackson's blurb talking about here that we are recruiting ? Wit the Frank Mason mention.

Elmarco Jackson is the recruit/player

@RockkChalkk said in 2023 Recruiting:

Elmarco Jackson is the recruit/player

1st time ever heard his name mentioned

@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Elmarko Jackson blurb. No wonder why Self is after him, Frank Mason mentioned vibes

If his resume from last month did not speak enough volumes, Elmarko Jackson once again has completely taken advantage of the platform presented to him.

The biggest thing that blew me away when watching him play was his ability to get wherever he needed to with a combination of elite burst and physicality. He brings Frank Mason vibes due to his strength, athleticism, and high evolving skill level.

The month of July was great to him as he collected in eye-opening offers from the likes of Kansas, UCLA, and Villanova. Add in schools such as Miami, Maryland, and Texas in the picture, and we are talking about a point guard who is bound to make a leap in the rankings because of his ability to immediately help each of those programs win in some form or fashion.*

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Elmarko Jackson blurb. No wonder why Self is after him, Frank Mason mentioned vibes

If his resume from last month did not speak enough volumes, Elmarko Jackson once again has completely taken advantage of the platform presented to him.

The biggest thing that blew me away when watching him play was his ability to get wherever he needed to with a combination of elite burst and physicality. He brings Frank Mason vibes due to his strength, athleticism, and high evolving skill level.

The month of July was great to him as he collected in eye-opening offers from the likes of Kansas, UCLA, and Villanova. Add in schools such as Miami, Maryland, and Texas in the picture, and we are talking about a point guard who is bound to make a leap in the rankings because of his ability to immediately help each of those programs win in some form or fashion.*

OK, so I got lost , who is this ElMarko Jackson's blurb talking about here that we are recruiting ? Wit the Frank Mason mention.

PG target. Looks like he will be seeing a bump in his rank and he reminds one of the 247 guys of Mason. Already a 4 star prospect

@BeddieKU23 My most wanted in terms of guards/wings we are in on.

Read an article on this kid yesterday, we are not even an option for this kid. he listed his Schools and we are not one of them he is considering now. - Werre gonna be just fine

@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@RockkChalkk said in 2023 Recruiting:

Elmarco Jackson is the recruit/player

1st time ever heard his name mentioned

Won't be the last. A PG with that combo of size, speed and skill will be a big time recruit for somebody.

@justanotherfan said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@RockkChalkk said in 2023 Recruiting:

Elmarco Jackson is the recruit/player

1st time ever heard his name mentioned

Won't be the last. A PG with that combo of size, speed and skill will be a big time recruit for somebody.

ya he listed his five - -oh well there will be others

Dennis Evans mentions KU, TCU & Minnesota as programs in his recruitment & wanting to visit them.

If Self really wants this kid there shouldn't be any issue getting this 7'2 behemoth here

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

If Self really wants this kid there shouldn't be any issue getting this 7'2 behemoth here

Agree but not convinced that we will put the hammer down here.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

If Self really wants this kid there shouldn't be any issue getting this 7'2 behemoth here

Agree but not convinced that we will put the hammer down here.

His ranking seems to be heavily based on potential down the line. There's certainly intrigue and his size/athleticism/defensive ability stick out but I do agree there seems to be a bit of treading water here from us. And I think with who's also involved in his recruitment (lack of other blue bloods) or high level P5 schools we can assume enough.

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Dennis Evans mentions KU, TCU & Minnesota as programs in his recruitment & wanting to visit them.

If Self really wants this kid there shouldn't be any issue getting this 7'2 behemoth here

7'2 height and 7'7 I think they said wing span and avg of 11 blocks a game -- must get I would think. - - I've read a couple of articles where it seems he is really interested in KU BUT watch Minnesota might be trouble -- I'd take a shot on the kid for if nothing else his inside presence defensively alone for the moment. - -Get him in the program and let them develop him have a pretty good history of developing Bigs. - -example Doke his freshman year , - -Doke his Sr yr. - - David his freshman Yr - - David his Sr year - -progression - I don't think you can over appreciate the presence of an inside force/rim protector enough

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

If Self really wants this kid there shouldn't be any issue getting this 7'2 behemoth here

Agree but not convinced that we will put the hammer down here.

His ranking seems to be heavily based on potential down the line. There's certainly intrigue and his size/athleticism/defensive ability stick out but I do agree there seems to be a bit of treading water here from us. And I think with who's also involved in his recruitment (lack of other blue bloods) or high level P5 schools we can assume enough.

I have some intel on this one. I don't want to use aggressive terms with it but yeah, one side is more interested than the other.

We are loaded down low. If we were to take him, then I don't think all our current guys would be staying. Zach is really good, but everyone will see that soon enough.

Dennis Evans is very difficult to evaluate at the HS level because of his size and length. He's so tall that he blocks shots with so much ease, but you can't tell if that's skill, or just the fact that he is so big, an advantage that will diminish in college.

He's very raw offensively, but most kids that size are very raw offensively because they haven't developed fluidity, and, honestly, most coaches at the HS level don't know how to actually coach big men.

Dennis Evans has a really high floor, though. He will, at a minimum, be a very good defensive player in college. He could anchor a top 10 defense with his rim protection. And because he doesn't have to jump for a lot of his blocks, it's hard to get him out of place.

His shooting stroke looks solid, but he doesn't have a ton in his bag yet as far as offensive moves. His hands are probably just average, and you would prefer a guy that size to have above average hands because he's going to have guys swiping at the ball constantly. He could be a below average offensive player in college.

He could also develop an offensive game, get stronger and suddenly we're talking about an elite recruit. That's not a guarantee, obviously, but it's not that far fetched, either.

Evans is definitely a take. You figure out the numbers later. He’s got a lot of Withey to him

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2023 Recruiting:

Evans is definitely a take. You figure out the numbers later. He’s got a lot of Withey to him

I agree you have a kid like this that is showing strong interest in you - - you return the interest , the others guys just have to compete to earn minutes and or spot on roster - if they transfer out then best of luck to them The only ones I wouldn't want to transfer out because of Evans would be Zac or Udeh. -- -Zuby wants to go - then so be it. We would still have three Udeh Zach and Evans at that point, again agree with you Farmer

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2023 Recruiting:

Evans is definitely a take. You figure out the numbers later. He’s got a lot of Withey to him

I think Minny or TCU are better choices for him to get immediate PT.

FYI Yates set an official to Texas

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

FYI Yates set an official to Texas

We are officially not in this one not sure if you saw.

Our good ol Boy down the inner State trying to gather a decent recruiting class. - He got Johnson and the guards. Now is in Baye Fall's finalists - If he lands fall like the article said that would be a huge commit for then a legit 7 footer crazy rim protector things could get interesting. Tang showing pretty decent recruiter.

Has to have a hell of a sales pitch to get a kid to Manhattan. Texas Rutgers K State can't remember the others his list keep an eye on

@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Our good ol Boy down the inner State trying to gather a decent recruiting class. - He got Johnson and the guards. Now is in Baye Fall's finalists - If he lands fall like the article said that would be a huge commit for then a legit 7 footer crazy rim protector things could get interesting. Tang showing pretty decent recruiter.

Has to have a hell of a sales pitch to get a kid to Manhattan. Texas Rutgers K State can't remember the others his list keep an eye on

Tang is worlds better than Bruce as a recruiter. Whether he can keep guys in Manhattan is to be determined, but if he can get them there, K-State could put together a very solid team fairly quick. I wouldn't be surprised to see him turn KSU around in short order.

@justanotherfan said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Our good ol Boy down the inner State trying to gather a decent recruiting class. - He got Johnson and the guards. Now is in Baye Fall's finalists - If he lands fall like the article said that would be a huge commit for then a legit 7 footer crazy rim protector things could get interesting. Tang showing pretty decent recruiter.

Has to have a hell of a sales pitch to get a kid to Manhattan. Texas Rutgers K State can't remember the others his list keep an eye on

Tang is worlds better than Bruce as a recruiter. Whether he can keep guys in Manhattan is to be determined, but if he can get them there, K-State could put together a very solid team fairly quick. I wouldn't be surprised to see him turn KSU around in short order.

Glad to see someone else who can see this, .Tang looks to be a really good recruiter, and now with the even the possibility when Weber was Coach he wouldn't of sniffed K/State , looks like he is putting together a decent team and they going to turn some heads and they gonna step up and beat some people - -Not saying they are in a title contending role yet - -but they are not gonna win their share. Also seen that are in the finalist for a kid named I think McDowell 4 * 6'8 we shall see but good luck to them

Maybe this can become a rivalry again because there is no way that's what it is right now. Can't be a rivalry when we a kicking their ass yr after yr , after yr like a tin can down the road.

@justanotherfan Agree. We saw they were not able to hold on to Pack who took more money to go to Miami.

The big thing we need to see is how Tang is as a coach. It's interesting that he is just now getting a chance.

Self's eye for talent strikes again. The new 247 rankings have a lot of our targets going supernova. Chris Johnson might be one of our lowest rated commits

@FarmerJayhawk Some near triple digit jumps on a couple of these guys and Elmarko unsurprisingly into the top 20.

Not sure KU is the favorite to land any of these guys though.

@BShark I always thought Tang was the brains behind Baylor, after last year I think Adams is pretty dang close too. I had no idea, he was so unassuming to me. My only thing with him is that he subs to much. Wonder where Bruce is? I did hear Remy is going to try out for the G league.

@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BShark I always thought Tang was the brains behind Baylor, after last year I think Adams is pretty dang close too. I had no idea, he was so unassuming to me. My only thing with him is that he subs to much. Wonder where Bruce is? I did hear Remy is going to try out for the G league.

Would not compare Tang/Drew to Adams/Beard. Tang is just a recruiter. Everyone had been saying Adams was the brains. No one says that about Tang.

Elmarko Jackson and Kaden Cooper are names I'd watch.

At this rate we’re just gonna have a team of combo guards in 2025

perfect the Combo 5 out

Updated 247 ranks for those that missed. Their rankings not the composite.
KU targets

Elmarko Jackson #18 (big jump)

Mikey Williams #19

Jamari McDowell #42 (big jump)

Dennis Evans #27

Taishon Chatman #31

Elijah Gertrude #36 (big jump)

Half of a college coach's job is recruiting. You cannot be a great coach if you are a below average recruiter. You just can't.

Tang is clearly a good recruiter. He came to a school that had nothing returning. Absolutely nothing. I assumed he would have maybe 10 or 11 scholarship players. He has a full group, and not only that, he got some real players in that class. Now, is he good with X's and O's. Hard to say. You can't really judge assistants on that because they only have a partial voice on those type of things. He may be more skilled than we realize. He may be less skill. We won't really know that until January or February.

@BShark just me!

@justanotherfan If KState wins 6+ games in conference play I'll be impressed. I do think it's possible, if the coaching is good.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@justanotherfan If KState wins 6+ games in conference play I'll be impressed. I do think it's possible, if the coaching is good.

Talent upgrade should be worth 4 wins by itself.

KSU’s schedule seems soft prior to league play. Butler and Florida look to be the toughest. They also play in the Cayman Island Classic which may have some decent teams. They should have a good W/L record going into Big 12 play.

They have a bottom 5 roster in all of Power 5. No idea how he's making lemons into lemonade with 1, 1 big-12 level player on his roster

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

They have a bottom 5 roster in all of Power 5. No idea how he's making lemons into lemonade with 1, 1 big-12 level player on his roster

Not sure KSU's roster is bottom 5 in Power 5.

I'll start with Keyontae Johnson. He was, once upon a time, a top 70 recruit, and the preseason SEC player of the year. He collapsed during an early season game a couple of years ago, and hasn't played since, but if he is healthy and at or near his previous level, he's a guy that could play at just about any P5 school. He's sight unseen, but he's a sleeper that could lift KSU from okay to good.

Anthony Thomas was one of the top juco players in the country. I doubt he's a star, but he will probably be an okay rotation piece. Nae'Qwan Tomlin was another good juco player. Probably another rotation piece.

Ismael Massoud was a three year rotation guy at Wake Forest. David N'guessan was a two year rotation guy at Virginia Tech. Desi Sills was a three year rotation guy at Arkansas.

That's five guys that are legitimate P5 rotation guys that Tang brought in, plus a guy that could be an all conference level talent if he is healthy.

Tykei Greene was second team all conference at Stony Brook. That probably translates to a decent P5 starter. Iyiola was a decent player at Hofstra.

Nowell returns for them and should start. He was solid last year as a starter.

That's 9 guys that can probably play at the P5 level, and that assumes that they don't get anything from Cam Carter (rarely used at Mississippi State last year) or Jerrell Colbert (barely played at LSU last year).

That also assumes they get little or nothing from any of their freshmen.

This team is decent. Easily the best looking roster KSU has had since Barry Brown and Dean Wade left. They should be on the bubble for the tournament, maybe even in easily if Johnson returns to form.

By my count Tang has 5 definite P5 level starters on this roster in Nowell, Johnson, N'guessan, Massoud and Sills. I could see Greene maybe being a starter, but those other 5 guys all started at the P5 level before, so I give them the edge.

This team is MUCH better than before. I wouldn't label them as good yet, but the improvement in the roster is pretty clear. With an easy early schedule, they could be confident coming into conference play. A 9 or 10 see in the tournament seems within reach.

@justanotherfan I look at you listing N'Guessan and Massoud as starters and realize just how spoiled Kansas fans have been. Because you are right, but they are not good starters to have.

Where did you get N'Guessan starting before though? He had 0 starts at VT according to sports reference: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/david-nguessan-1.html ↗

The biggest thing KSU did was they got athletes and some size. That goes a long way. League will be an absolute blood bath for them imo though.

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

They have a bottom 5 roster in all of Power 5. No idea how he's making lemons into lemonade with 1, 1 big-12 level player on his roster

oh I don't think they have a bottom 5 roster, I believe they will be better then what your giving credit for. They can still be in lower half of big 12 and still be better then a bottom P-5 roster. - Big 12 is just gonna chew one another up incredible conference the best conference yet again , just more balance

Read some dates for KU 23 recruits visiting. - -Jamari McDowell 6'5 Combo this weekend. - Finalist of KU - -Texas A & M - -Xavier - - -& WF - -Ranked # 141 by 247 sports.

Kaden Cooper : - 6"5 SF - - Sept 24th - - # 36 by Rivals - -38th by On 3. com - - 45th by 247

Elijah Gertrude -6'4 - -SG - Sept 23rd - -25th - - - #136 by 247 sports wants to decide in Sept - -Ku , St Johns , Rutgers , Seton Hall & Virginia - -made 43 % of his 3's.

@BShark oooh nice left hand!

@approxinfinity Lagerald vibes in general here. He wants to visit Kansas, no offer yet.

Per the Slant, Evans plans to visit KU, TCU, Minnesota and San Diego State. Bizarre mix.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@justanotherfan I look at you listing N'Guessan and Massoud as starters and realize just how spoiled Kansas fans have been. Because you are right, but they are not good starters to have.

Where did you get N'Guessan starting before though? He had 0 starts at VT according to sports reference: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/david-nguessan-1.html ↗

The biggest thing KSU did was they got athletes and some size. That goes a long way. League will be an absolute blood bath for them imo though.

That was a mistake on my part. I had said earlier that he was a rotation guy, which was correct, but then lumped him in with Massoud and Sills, both of whom had started before in saying that they were all starters before. I think he could start for KSU this year, though.

@justanotherfan I think he will start for sure just going off of how much guys played before. He was getting real minutes for VT. A good defensive piece.

@BShark

Silas Demary looks very interesting to me. Potential high level defender from what I am seeing in the video. The 2 on 1 stop he makes at the 1:24 or so mark is exceptional defensive ability, awareness and discipline, along with the athleticism to actually pull it off. I'm not sold, but I am intrigued.

McDowell announcing on the 24th. Would be very surprised if it's Kansas.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

McDowell announcing on the 24th. Would be very surprised if it's Kansas.

How so

Bossi thinks KU or Wake for McDowell.. Interesting

Gertrude & Jackson visiting for the Duke FB game.

Kaden Cooper took his official here but isn't talking..

Self on the HUNT for guards

Short term target TJ Power to Puke Town.

Bossi mentions Chatman leaning Ohio St.. Weird. Sounds like Jackson might be the top target and interested to see how it plays out with him

*Obviously, Kansas has already landed four-star guard Chris Johnson and word out of Lawrence is that Bill Self and his staff are pretty excited about the Houston native’s combination of size and athleticism in the backcourt. They’d like to keep getting more athletic in the backcourt. They’ve already hosted another four-star guard from Texas in Jamari McDowell and super athletic four-star wing Kaden Cooper was on campus over the weekend. Five-star guard Mikey Williams visited during June as did four-star Taison Chatman (who looks to be leaning towards Ohio State). In a few weeks, four-star Elijah Gertrude and top 20 Elmarko Jackson will be on campus. Big man Dennis Evans is among the others in the mix.

While Self will never turn down a quality big man, the priority for the Jayhawks appears to be adding athletic and versatile perimeter players. Jackson – who visits Miami – this weekend looks to be right at the top of their wish list and they’d be more than happy with any of Cooper, Gertrude and McDowell to go along with him.

It is hard to imagine that they would whiff on the entire group coming off of a National Championship but at the same time it is tough to say that they are the clearcut favorite for any of those guys either. Sorry I can’t give a clearer answer, but I do think their next commit comes from somebody within the group of their most recent and upcoming September visitors.*

Don't think Gertrude is an option. Lot's of CB's to UVA to play in that exciting offense!

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Don't think Gertrude is an option. Lot's of CB's to UVA to play in that exciting offense!

Yes he goning to end up there

2023 4star Ashton Hardaway has picked up an offer from Bill self and Kansas

Puttin this here, Season getting closer. - - Boot Camp starts today - -welcome fella's lol

Little FYI for some , Teams with the most wins over top 25 teams in the past 5 seasons. - -# 1 - - KU - -( 36 ) - -# 2 - - Mich St - - ( 31 ) - - # 3 - - Baylor - - ( 27 ) - - # 4 - - Mich - - ( 27 ) - - # 5 - -Tex Tech- - ( 26 )

-6 - - Villa - - ( 26 ) - - # 7 - - Purdue - - ( 25 ) - - # 8- - Duke- - ( 24 ) - - # 9- -Iowa - -( 22 ) - - # 10 - -Virg- -( 22 ) - - # 11 N Carol - - ( 21 ) - -# 12 - - Ohio St - - ( 25 ) - - # 13- - Okla St - - ( 25 ). - -Just something KU at the top on. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Kansas is in to see aj johnson

Gertrude to Virginia

Really hoping we land Elmarko.

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Really hoping we land Elmarko.

So what you think our chances are. Things have been pretty slow again. Yet not worried seems like this every year, only 1 commit but we always end up just fine

@jayballer67

Think we are sitting in a good spot. Really like his game and it fits exactly what Self is looking for in a point guard.

It sounds like they are tight on numbers.

KU was in to see Bronny James recently as well. Bossi quick to say basically no shot

Won't be for lack of want or numbers with Elmarko. Hope they get him.

@BShark

Watched some recent film on him and was a bit surprised how good he is compared to where he was ranked/now ranked. Still think he's being undervalued, certainly appears to have the talent of a Top 20 player and has size and athleticism for the PG/CG position that projects forward as well. I think he'd contribute day 1 at KU, a bold prediction but his film popped

Staff visited Mikey yesterday.

Flurry of CB's coming in for Chatman to Ohio St.

Who's our next commitment going to be? Any bucketeers crystal ball projections?

@RockkChalkk Too soon. If the staff has their way, Elmarko/Mikey but either one will be a tough pull.

Maybe one of McDowell/Cooper.

Bossi mentions that Mikey really likes KU.

Have a lot of mixed feelings with this one.

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Bossi mentions that Mikey really likes KU.

Have a lot of mixed feelings with this one.

I too might have some mixed emotions - -but if he ended up here I wouldn't be sad

@jayballer67

Yeah I'm interested to see how his sr season goes. I think he needs to prove he is more then a big name. Talented for sure but I wonder about his ceiling.

I'm higher on Elmarko Jackson if I had to choose between the 2. Dynamic play making that reminds me so much of Dotson

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67

Yeah I'm interested to see how his sr season goes. I think he needs to prove he is more then a big name. Talented for sure but I wonder about his ceiling.

I'm higher on Elmarko Jackson if I had to choose between the 2. Dynamic play making that reminds me so much of Dotson

ya true, either one would be fine with me. - -Jackson is visiting right ?- - -when is that happening ?
- -I know his dad says he wants to play college ball at least for the year.

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Bossi mentions that Mikey really likes KU.

Have a lot of mixed feelings with this one.

A lot of work to be done before he would even play college ball imo.

@jayballer67

This weekend. Could be a good thing with the football game

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67

This weekend. Could be a good thing with the football game

Ya if we could get a pretty full stadium - - play well le him see how the place can be stokes - -would be awesome, let him see the KU atmosphere

@jayballer67

Never hurts when the football team isn't doo doo as part of the experience for him. Picked a good weekend & hopefully Self can close here

@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67

This weekend. Could be a good thing with the football game

Ya if we could get a pretty full stadium - - play well le him see how the place can be stokes - -would be awesome, let him see the KU atmosphere

Memorial is gonna be BUMPIN on Saturday. Huge bonus for the visit.

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67

This weekend. Could be a good thing with the football game

Ya if we could get a pretty full stadium - - play well le him see how the place can be stokes - -would be awesome, let him see the KU atmosphere

Memorial is gonna be BUMPIN on Saturday. Huge bonus for the visit.

oh ya been long time since the Booth has been jumpin - -wish I was physically able to go - but be watchin for sur. - -I hope we rock the place

KU recruiting 3 players for 2023 from the Same School. -It is the same School that the Flowers kid goes to - -they either recruiting or showing interest

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Bossi mentions that Mikey really likes KU.

Have a lot of mixed feelings with this one.

Kid can play and would be our biggest high profile recruit probably since Josh or Wiggins.

@TYOHawk

Yeah he certainly would be high profile. He just told the world he wanted to be a billionaire by 25.. If Self believes in his game then that's good enough for me. I have my concerns about the kind of baggage that comes with someone such as him. We'll see. I'm very interested to see how his Sr season goes as well.

Jackson did a video interview and cut his list to 7 with KU in it.

Certainly seemed complimentary of some other schools, especially Texas & Villanova who he's taken unofficial visits to. Will visit Notre Dame officially after KU at some point. Seems very focused on how guards are used/freedom/style of play.

He's looking to decide just after the signing period in Nov and sign in the spring.

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@TYOHawk

Yeah he certainly would be high profile. He just told the world he wanted to be a billionaire by 25.. If Self believes in his game then that's good enough for me. I have my concerns about the kind of baggage that comes with someone such as him. We'll see. I'm very interested to see how his Sr season goes as well.

who knows maybe he REALLY does want to play some College ball , like you said If Bill thinks he wants him - - - good enough for me, and it seems like KU has high interest and he sems pretty interested in us

@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@TYOHawk

Yeah he certainly would be high profile. He just told the world he wanted to be a billionaire by 25.. If Self believes in his game then that's good enough for me. I have my concerns about the kind of baggage that comes with someone such as him. We'll see. I'm very interested to see how his Sr season goes as well.

who knows maybe he REALLY does want to play some College ball , like you said If Bill thinks he wants him - - - good enough for me, and it seems like KU has high interest and he sems pretty interested in us

With NIL, he'll make a lot more money going to college through NIL deals than going pro overseas or G-League, or going straight to the NBA if that's in place for next draft.

@jayballer67

I'm actually surprised we are in this recruitment tbh.

@BeddieKU23 Crootin is BACK.

Oh boy, a surprise!

Jamari McDowell to Kansas

Shocker

@TYOHawk said in 2023 Recruiting:

Shocker

Jeremy Case: closer.

@BShark Land Elmarko or Mikey and I’m content.

@TYOHawk said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BShark Land Elmarko or Mikey and I’m content.

I would greatly prefer Elmarko, but if they whiff there then they can press for Mikey in the spring.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

Jamari McDowell to Kansas

I will have to go watch him. He's 15 minutes away.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@TYOHawk said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BShark Land Elmarko or Mikey and I’m content.

I would greatly prefer Elmarko, but if they whiff there then they can press for Mikey in the spring.

We’re on the same page. Think Elmarko would be the most physically gifted lead guard we’ve had since Tyshawn if he commits.

@Jethro I'm trying to squint and see it with him, I need encouragement lol

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@Jethro I'm trying to squint and see it with him, I need encouragement lol

I drive by Manvel High School everyday in my commute. I truly have never heard of him, so I understand the squint...lol.

@Jethro I've not been overly impressed with what I've seen on youtube but that doesn't mean much.

This seemed like an out of the no where commit.

@Woodrow said in 2023 Recruiting:

This seemed like an out of the no where commit.

They've been recruiting him for awhile and it sounds like the staff made a big push after UVA locked up Gertrude.

I like this take actually. If he plays like his comments suggest they may have found a very competitive dude with intriguing length. Obviously going to need the strength program here but if he also helps Chris Johnson that's a plus.
I get the feeling this one has a chip on his shoulder to prove himself on the big stage. Went from 2 star Recruit to top 50 this summer so he might be one of those late bloomers that was impacted by the covid years.
Stack talent, develop it and see what comes out the other side. This is the kind of Recruit that just helped us win a natty. No worries about leaving early unless he transfers. Hearing the staff pushed for him behind the scenes to land him makes you really think they know what potential he may have.. until otherwise I'll trust the staff here. Obviously not every player is a homerun but I wouldn't be quick to throw this one with some past takes that didn't pan out

I like taking as many guards as we are. Skill is the name of the game these days. But I’m not sure what’s happening at the 4 spot. Jalen is all but certain to leave after this year and there’s not an obvious successor. Maybe McCullar uses his Covid year? We go really small and play MJ there? There’s always the portal so that’s most likely IMO. Will be an interesting story to follow over the next 9 months.

@BeddieKU23 Bill has shown that if anything, the biggest key for his teams being successful is simply having guys here 3-4 years. Obviously Och and CB are pro guys now, but they are likely the only two from last years rotation. I think of anyone else Dajuan has the best chance which sounds insane but we will see.

So yeah just keeping guys is huge.

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2023 Recruiting:

I like taking as many guards as we are. Skill is the name of the game these days. But I’m not sure what’s happening at the 4 spot. Jalen is all but certain to leave after this year and there’s not an obvious successor. Maybe McCullar uses his Covid year? We go really small and play MJ there? There’s always the portal so that’s most likely IMO. Will be an interesting story to follow over the next 9 months.

Portal for sure. I don't think we will be too likely to run into problems filling starting spots. This last offseason we had more guys that wanted to come to KU than we had spots by quite a bit.

Wesley Yates to Washington, now there's a head-scratcher

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Wesley Yates to Washington, now there's a head-scratcher

:backhand_index_pointing_right: :money_bag:

AJ Johnson updated his recruitment and didn't include anything on KU. Safe to say he's no longer a priority target/target worth following

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

AJ Johnson updated his recruitment and didn't include anything on KU. Safe to say he's no longer a priority target/target worth following

Yeah haven't seen KU linked with him in awhile and clear we went to other targets.

@BShark

Yeah I knew we haven't been involved much here. I just thought I'd share for those who might be wondering on him

Real targets: Elmarko, Mikey, Cooper

Imagine we only take one. All should announce this month.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

Real targets: Elmarko, Mikey, Cooper

Imagine we only take one. All should announce this month.

Considering the talent in this class available it's impressive to see high level guys looking here again. Elmarko and Cooper would be a really insane haul

Thursday for Elmarko

I wouldn't be shocked if bill self got a another one

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2023 Recruiting:

Thursday for Elmarko

Whoooaaa

🤫

Do we even know how many openings we will have available , if Jackson commits tommorrow that's three

@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Do we even know how many openings we will have available , if Jackson commits tommorrow that's three

Can't imagine we'd take a 4th in the early period.

Seems like it’s starting to all leak now

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2023 Recruiting:

Seems like it’s starting to all leak now

They really tried.

Recruiting is BACK the last two years hot damn.

Billy Eugene. Get that guy a raise

If the good news does come through today we'll need to marvel at the talent and athleticism Self has assembled in the backcourt in this class. Talk about going out there and getting dudes

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

If the good news does come through today we'll need to marvel at the talent and athleticism Self has assembled in the backcourt in this class. Talk about going out there and getting dudes

It will

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Do we even know how many openings we will have available , if Jackson commits tommorrow that's three

Can't imagine we'd take a 4th in the early period.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Do we even know how many openings we will have available , if Jackson commits tommorrow that's three

Can't imagine we'd take a 4th in the early period.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Do we even know how many openings we will have available , if Jackson commits tommorrow that's three

Can't imagine we'd take a 4th in the early period.

Me neither Bud. I was just curious IF we even have the Scholi's available- -I'm not sure how many we have available. - -I know Jalen wil be one - - the other kid the one that red shirted last year , the one who came to us through the portal from smal college -that's two. - -No other big wil transfe out , I right off hand can't think of any others - -full rosstr won't we be ? - -Max given I figure would be three tops

@jayballer67 The staff recruited in the early period to fill Cam, Kevin and JWill spots. Those three will for sure be gone. Everything else is up in the air and we don't know yet. Could see a wide range of other spots being available depending how the year goes.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67 The staff recruited in the early period to fill Cam, Kevin and JWill spots. Those three will for sure be gone. Everything else is up in the air and we don't know yet. Could see a wide range of other spots being available depending how the year goes.

thanks , dum ol me forgot about Mcullars , so ya i WAS thinking three leaving, yet I just don't know about the rst, the spot I feel most confident about is I JUST DON'T see any of the 3 bigs leaving - - for sure don't see Zach leaving , pretty sure Udeh isn't going any where and then I forget the 3rd if any he might JUST NOT seeing that right at this point either though.

Right now they have us ranked 20th best recruiting, wonder how the commit of Jackson would take us ? - -I thought he was ranked a little higher - -247 has him at # 35

@jayballer67

would be 8th best class with Jackson.

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@jayballer67

would be 8th best class with Jackson.

OH OK, well that makes for a decent jump

KU FOR ELMARKO.

WOOOOO

I gotta catch up on my 2023 recruiting.
Seems like both Elmarko and Johnson are great players from the little i've seen.

Got heeeeem

He's a 5* in my heart.

@rockchalkjayhawk said in 2023 Recruiting:

I gotta catch up on my 2023 recruiting.
Seems like both Elmarko and Johnson are great players from the little i've seen.

Elite athletic guards. CJ being at a prep this year playing for a tough coach should help with his mentals. Talent wise he is a steal that we didn't have to fight that hard for.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

He's a 5* in my heart.

I believe he will end up one. I don't see how he isn't

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

He's a 5* in my heart.

I believe he will end up one. I don't see how he isn't

Yeah esp in this class

@BShark

He's ranked right where Dotson ended up

@BeddieKU23 Yep and I think he is on that level.

Excellent!!!!

So ends the class of 2023

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2023 Recruiting:

So ends the class of 2023

that's it? three dudes? At least four leaving, maybe.

@rockchalkjayhawk No one good enough we can get in the HS ranks to fill the starting 4 spot. Gonna have to portal assuming additional spots come open.

@rockchalkjayhawk yep, they’ll go portal for the rest.

This is over a year ago, he's nice.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 Yep and I think he is on that level.

He is lightning quick, and seems to have a very nice shooting touch. That 180 move he put on a defender in his highlight video you posted was sick. My ankles got sore watching it.

https://mobile.twitter.com/mikegrib8/status/1563416390245048320 ↗

Freak athlete

Dennis Evans is headed to Minnesota, eh

@TYOHawk Imagine Bill having 5 guys who could all catch a lob on the floor. He probably has been sitting on a dozen different plays that are oops to the PG waiting for a guy like this.

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Dennis Evans is headed to Minnesota, eh

I would of more then welcomed that EH in a heartbeat for the rim protection he offers. - I understand because of the big situation but just sayin - I know we were fore sure interested at one point

Lots of positive press going to Chris Johnson for his play over the last weekend. Certainly looking like he will rise the rankings. He looked a lot like a top 20 prospect then his current rank

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Lots of positive press going to Chris Johnson for his play over the last weekend. Certainly looking like he will rise the rankings. He looked a lot like a top 20 prospect then his current rank

Him and Elmarko are just beastly. We're national championship good for the next several years. Just a powerhouse of talent.

Mikey Williams will announce on 11/6. KU not a finalist here.

Just a weird final 5

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Just a weird final 5

Was this updated?

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Just a weird final 5

Was this updated?

I saw it updated on Twitter but wondering if its false since I can't find it easily.

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Just a weird final 5

Was this updated?

I saw it updated on Twitter but wondering if its false since I can't find it easily.

I haven't seen anything official yet. Don't think we are in it after taking Elmarko regardless.

@BShark

List was super weirdo, Syracuse, VCU, LSU and 2 other smaller schools. Probably fake.

Sad story all around here. Decent chance a lot of these guys don’t get eligible since Donda is… uhhh… not exactly on the NCAA green list https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/34890157/ye-donda-academy-dropped-hoops-events-amid-reports-closure ↗

Bossi says KU still an option for Mikey Williams according to his camp but he's visiting Memphis this week and logged a CB for them, given it goes well.

@BeddieKU23 Slater's tweet said it all lol

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@BShark

Good fit for Mikey, doesn't have to worry about being coached up hard

Peja Stojakovic's kid chose Stanford today.

@Texas-Hawk-10 sounds like a stay close to home kinda deal.

Does Stanford sell itself or is Haase a pretty good recruiter at times?

@BeddieKU23 yes. Honestly hard to say because the pool of kids they can really recruit is so small. But he’s landed some top flight kids recently

@FarmerJayhawk

I did not expect Stanford to win that recruitment at all. Same with the Harrison Ingram & Ziaire Williams sweepstakes before that. Haase is certainly good for 1 big fish recruit a cycle

All our guys are signing early 😊

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McDowell in as well

Great day for the Jayhawks!

So K-State missed on Cameron Carr who is going to Tennessee. You might think oh well that's not a surprise but it's a hilarious loss given that they hired his prep coach on their staff AND his dad has been coaching at KSU (women's team) for 5 years now. Massive whiff that only a school as poverty as KSU could manage. :face_with_tears_of_joy:

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

So K-State missed on Cameron Carr who is going to Tennessee. You might think oh well that's not a surprise but it's a hilarious loss given that they hired his prep coach on their staff AND his dad has been coaching at KSU (women's team) for 5 years now. Massive whiff that only a school as poverty as KSU could manage. :face_with_tears_of_joy:

Now you play nice Mister lol

@BShark Yea but At least K State better than Louisville which is crazyyy. They got 1 Pg that came from Juco who play all 40 min all 3 games so far.I know Kenny Payne wasn't there but probably wish they have Bobby on that team rn.

Oh Iowa State all up and Cocky all over themselves - -talking about their 23 recruiting class. Best recruiting class in history of School - - Ranked # 6 in the Nation

Omaha Biliew Highest rated recruit , - - -Milan Momcilovic - Averaged 18.1 and 7.7 rpg - - # 3 recruit of all time- - -Jilani Hamilton & Kayden Fish out of KC - -they think big times ahead - - we shall see I reckon

@NormRoberts

That's on the coaches. Had an entire offseason to get the roster in order.

Kaden Cooper picked Oklahoma. Surprised. Know they were the home school but he seemed like he was shopping out of state. Big 12 continues to load up on talent

Round up of some commitments from the signing period

1 2023 player (according to 247), #4 composite guard Isiah Collier picked USC.

Top 100 SG Sebastian Mack picked UCLA.

5 star C Baye Fall committed to Arkansas. Their 5th, 5 star prospect in the last 2 classes.

DJ Wagner, the #1 rated recruit in the composite picked Kentucky.

Colorado picked up a 5 star in SF Cody Williams & also landed 4 star PF Assane Diop

10 ranked 5 star PF Ron Holland picked Texas.

@BeddieKU23 Arkansas has "resources"

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 Arkansas has "resources"

Musselman will run out of money at some point.

@Jethro said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 Arkansas has "resources"

Musselman will run out of money at some point.

Dunno, Walmart has a lot lol

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 Arkansas has "resources"

Seems like the entire SEC has that network

Brutal, AJ Johnson lands at Texas.

Makes 17 blue chip recruits signed to the Big-12 in this cycle

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Brutal, AJ Johnson lands at Texas.

Makes 17 blue chip recruits signed to the Big-12 in this cycle

Good, keeps the Big 12 on top and forces Self to stay on top of his game in recruiting.

Sorry fella's know this isn't the spot but - - just saying our ladies have a HUGE GAME TONIGHT. - -two undefeated teams. - -Ku vs # 12 Arizona hoping they can pull this out - -ROCK CHALK

Awesome win!

Our # 22 Lady Jay Hawks got to 10 - - -0 with an 81 - -62 win over Tulsa. - - Franklin 25 points and Jackson 17 pts & 10 rebounds - -Way to go ladies

I know guys we are not or shouldn't compare scores - - not a good idea but just throwing this out concerning our # 22 Lady Jay Hawks.. - -

Arizona which is ranked 20th right now just got through beating Baylor which was ranked 18th. - - KU women just kicks the day lights out of Arizona when they werre ranked # 7 on Arizona's home floor by 27 points - - -77-50. - Tonight Arizona beats Baylor - -by 21 points on a neutral floor. Go figure , just saying

I know not the right area but not sure where it was - - had a question . Therre was a post or some comments here about a kid that's at Texas Tech I believe that was looking to transfer , can't remember his name but someone stated stats on his rebounding and such- -he was a big man. - -

Found out actually he could transfer and be eligible immediately -and the individual casually probably said maybe we ought to check him out or maybe if KU had any interest. - -I was just curious if there was any interest maybe. - For the life of me I can't remember his name. - - Just curious , he would be nice - -a really really long reach I know BUT doesn't hurt to wish

@jayballer67 He is staying at Texas Tech.

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@jayballer67 He is staying at Texas Tech.

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well dang- - -oh well

@BShark

So what did they do, actually pay him now?

@BeddieKU23 From the sound of it yes.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 From the sound of it yes.

Hilarious.

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 From the sound of it yes.

Hilarious.

Kids/handlers/parents gotta be careful with anyone saying "up to" in NIL.

Elmarko to rise up the ranks with rivals soon.

https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/i-ve-got-five-on-it-players-likely-to-see-a-bump-in-2023-rankings?ga_source=cm ↗

@BeddieKU23 He's been playing well lately after a rough patch.

247 updated their rankings (not the composite)

Elmarko Jackson #23

Chris Johnson #39

Jamari McDowell #70

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

247 updated their rankings (not the composite)

Elmarko Jackson #23

Chris Johnson #39

Jamari McDowell #70

Is there an article about it?

@BShark

Yep

https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/LongFormArticle/College-basketball-recruiting-Biggest-movers-in-the-updated-247Sports-top-150-for-the-class-of-2023-202715877/ ↗

@BeddieKU23 thx

Congrats Elmarko!

Made the McDonald's All American game

He's going to be terrific. I also think people are sleeping on McDowell. He's got skills that will translate right away

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Congrats Elmarko!

Made the McDonald's All American game

Awesome. Yet of course you know he won't show a lot there cause we know how the McDonalds all star game goes - usully it's first one down the court shoot -- little team in that game. - -Looking forward to his days here on the campus - -he is really moving up

Dennis Evans back on the board. I doubt KU gets back involved, but you never know.

@FarmerJayhawk

Whoa, not surprised given Minnesota's season.

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2023 Recruiting:

Dennis Evans back on the board. I doubt KU gets back involved, but you never know.

Yeah not sure how he would fit next season at all.

@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2023 Recruiting:

Dennis Evans back on the board. I doubt KU gets back involved, but you never know.

Yeah not sure how he would fit next season at all.

Sharky, you don't see how a 7-foot-1 center would fit in next season??? A top 20, shot blocking, rim-protecting big?
that's just crazy talk. :)

Evans at 7’1” is 210 lbs? How much weight can he really add?

@Gorilla72 said in 2023 Recruiting:

Evans at 7’1” is 210 lbs? How much weight can he really add?

Perhaps 230sih at most

@BShark he gets locked in the complex to eat and lift

@FarmerJayhawk - McDonalds diet?

@Gorilla72 we’re fancy at KU. We do Wendy’s 😂

@rockchalkjayhawk Let's follow his career. I am not the biggest fan. More than that, I think Udeh will be better next year. I think if they look at a big it should be a transfer that is ready to immediately contribute.

I hope we can find 2 wing scorers, that's what this team will need unless Kev returns.

@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:

I hope we can find 2 wing scorers, that's what this team will need unless Kev returns.

I was going to edit again and comment on this more.

I think it's likely the staff is pretty happy with our post situation. If Zach goes you probably portal for a guy but KJ/Udeh/Zuby is a nice group. The big thing is Jalen and Gradey are leaving so we need shot takers. With the scholarship reduction down to 12 it really is hard to find room for a developmental big. Plus Evans might want to play immediately as well. The primary focus has to be the starting 4.