@approxinfinity At the time Udoka, Dave and Silvio were all on the roster is part of it.
BShark
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I love Mitch, it isn't his fault he was the only back-up big man.
We would feel differently about Timme if he got the KU offer that his dad was hoping for ngl.
I would love for Ochai to come back. It's also an incredible success story if he is drafted and I would be thrilled for him.
He was our best player last year, with Dave being #2. I was looking at a couple different interesting advanced stats and they basically said the same thing. Our starting 5 were clearly our best guys (with Ochai/Dave being 1/2) and then Harris was the only okay-ish bench player though Bryce improved in conference play. Mitch was atrocious. Like insanely negative.
If he doesn't plan to be around 5 years I would say redshirting doesn't make sense. We don't often have redshirt guys under Self as we know. So he could just as easily not redshirt but hardly get off the bench.
We don't know what players are going to do though. No one would have expected Drew Timme to be THIS good. Sometimes players surprise.
Ochai would be going pro, not transferring. I would rather he be back as long as Bill isn't going to keep starting a wing at the 2.
I would imagine Bill is going back to playing 2 bigs all the time with these moves. Zach needs a RS year imo, not sure Adams moves the needle. Taking some bridge guys does make sense if you want to be moving back to two bigs.
I will, however, be surprised if Bill doesn't add 2 PGs, he has already added one. Whether the second is TyTy or a transfer I do not know. TyTy would be my first preference after watching Geico Nationals but the Yesufu kid is nice.
Hard to add starting level bigs when you one are not trying to and two wouldn't promise they would start over Jalen and Dave. Might be the wrong approach but it's the one they are taking. Bishop is immediately the 2nd best big on the roster BTW but I think we would need to continue to start Jalen for his shooting.
If we don't get TyTy I am very interested in the Yesufu kid from Drake and KU has reached out to him.
Officiating has been blatant in this game, and I don't really care who wins.
UCLA making Timme play defense is very smart.
@Crimsonorblue22 More departures soon. Bill cleaning house.
@BeddieKU23 said in Today's Games Thread:
Ku recruited most of their roster
REALLY DON'T WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@BShark said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
I would prepare for him to be a Jayhawk, fwiw.
So ends Jalen at the 5.
Bill is fully back on that 2 big life.
I would prepare for him to be a Jayhawk, fwiw.
Would imagine it will be Turg's best team at Maryland.
Sherron just misses this. Last season for him was 09-10.
Otherwise I do think people would have him and maybe Cole.
@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
Dajuan Gordon to Methzu. Kid has made bad decisions his college career
Missouri came out ahead in their trade.
@approxinfinity said in KU 2010-2020 Decade Team:
9 man rotation : Mario, Frank, Devonte, Brandon, Svi, Tom Rob, Withey, Embiid
No 08 guys, starts with 10-11 season.
Rush was so damn good though, absolutely.
@Jhawk69 Perry was SO smart, there were times where, in conference, he knew the opposing team's sets better than their own players.
@Jhawk69 Sherron just misses the cut off. Starts with the 10-11 season. Sherron was real damn good though for sure.
@KirkIsMyHinrich I'd say do w/e you want but by taking Embiid I think it's clear that I was just going with them as players overall. Though his one year was good when healthy.
Pretty happy with where I ended up. Fastest PG to play under Bill, mobile bigs, three point shooting etc
Fun thing I saw pop up on twitter.
My 9 man rotation is
Dotson
Graham
Josh
Marcus
Embiid
Frank
Svisus
BMac
Markieff
TyTy is soooo good. Gotta give him the keys to the program.
@Kcmatt7 said in Coach Hot Seat and Players to Poach:
Really thought Moser could get a better job
OU is a better job than Texas submit post
We all just want the best for Dave. He never should have been put in the position of being the sole big on the roster. He will be able to play this upcoming season with less pressure.
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Bill Self Emperor of Kansas:
Mark Turgeon getting an extension with Maryland to the delight of Terps fans lol
Live look-in at their board
I guess the main difference is I don't think Harris is capable of being that kind of scorer. I would agree that Bill's best teams have a scoring PG.
I think next year is very likely a bridge year for KU anyway. One reason I like the Martin addition is it lets us take the pressure off other bigs having to contribute right away. Zach needs a year in our s&c program.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in So- with all these players coming and going, what is next years team gonna look like?:
The second thing Harris needs to do is up his aggressive and look to score a lot more. Harris showed an ability to score and shoot very well. Harris can absolutely be a guy that be a 15-5 type player while shooting 40%+ from 3.
Strongly disagree unless that 40% on on low volume. His shots are wide open if he is guarded his numbers will be bad. I would love to be wrong about Harris but I don't see KU being any good if he is a major player.
Harris needs to, but he is so small I don't know how much we should expect.
@Texas-Hawk-10 justanotherfan was saying to NOT move Jalen to the 3.
@FarmerJayhawk guy on 247 that is pretty tied in says they are still feeling great about TyTy. It's gonna be a circus that's for sure.
@justanotherfan Can't see Self moving Jalen to the 3.
@FarmerJayhawk EXPAND THE BUDGET. :face_with_tears_of_joy:
@KirkIsMyHinrich A KU commitment would have been really surprising given the offer was pulled.
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Bill Self Emperor of Kansas:
Porter Moser considering a 6-year offer from OU.
Would take the OU game from a shoot out (Kruger) to an absolute meat grinder.
@Texas-Hawk-10 a bit of semantics then. I just don't think they are looking for a 3 type unless Ochai leaves. Needs to be an actual guard.
@Kcmatt7 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@BShark With the idea of a heavy 2-guard rotation I would think.
Two guards with the ability to guard to guard lob again. Yes please.
The biggest issue imo is that he had no back-up. We've thrown enough numbers at it that I'm confident Bill will figure something out.
He talked to a lot of D2 coaches he trusts before taking Cam. Lots of former KU guys coaching that level not just Boschee at his school but he played against Ballard's Bods and there is another I am forgetting...
It's official
Being floated out there that he is getting a lifetime contract.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
KU has one spot open as of now. We've got a PG and a big man. The current focus has to be a starting caliber 2/3 that can shoot from deep so Braun can go back to a 6th man role that he's perfect for.
Tell that to the staff who is heavily prioritizing another PG with TyTy being the top choice.
TyTy with an ass team around him beat a Nolan Hickman led team. Really hope we can pay enough to get him.
@BeddieKU23 Hmm, I don't want to see a huge increase in his minutes. If he can be in better shape that would be great though.
Hopefully Dave continues to improve. He was a lot of our issues but he had NO back-up so like...yeah...
@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
Oh so he mad Curbelo won the spot. Averaged less then 1 assist a game in 25 minutes per. Not sure what these kids hear in their head sometimes
Yeah idk, might be a case of wherever he ends up the 2nd time just works out better.
@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
Very happy that worked out the way it did. Pettiford is way better
Yeah and multiple years.
@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
McKissic announcing not for Kansas tomorrow
Any thoughts? Probably methzu or Kst just to troll us right?
Believe we took Bobby over him.
@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@BShark said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@FarmerJayhawk yeah sure w/e GIVE ME ADAM MILLER SNACKS
Snacks betta be on this
Apparently he wants to be on the ball. I'd take him but I'm not sure how we could spin that. :face_with_tears_of_joy: