@justanotherfan Agree. Garrett having to play 30+ mpg in particular will limit the team. It seems highly unlikely that he improves his jumper much.
Great thread from Sam Vecenie: 🐦 View Tweet
Interesting stuff here. This could become more of a trend. Players are worth more than a scholarship, that much is clear.
Marco said:
And daddy has spoken,,, let's move on. A starting lineup of Dok, Silvio, Enaruna, Dotson (hopefully), and Agbaji with Dave, Mitch, and a combination of Braun, Garrett and McBride coming off the bench doesn't sound half bad.
I think Dotson is the difference between a 2-3 seed and staring at the NIT.
@jayballer73 @Kcmatt7 @BeddieKU23 @KirkIsMyHinrich @HighEliteMajor and whoever else...
RJ tweeted "Big bag got them big mad". It wasn't about the money though guys...definitely not...
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Let's get Dotson back.
Yesss
jayballer73 said:
I guess probably the ONE question I would really have on this would be. - IF indeed RJ truly was never really interested in going to College to play - - then WHY would you come and visit Ku 3-4 times during the recruiting process when you only get ONE paid visit? - when you have to pay for the others on your own - -and your NOT interested? - Doesn't add up
Idk but this deal was signed a long time ago, almost a month ago is what I've seen. It's a crappy thing to do I agree. His dad really led everyone on as well. I think they saw the value in marketing of college bball and used that to generate hype.
@jayballer73 Is this really a loss? Seems clear that RJ was never going to college in a million years.
Worth noting that NONE of the coaches involved were even visiting him the last few weeks. So, I think maybe they did know at least somewhat. It is unfortunate though.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
@Bosthawk A 4.0 and around a 1500 SAT score are minimum requirements to get into Stanford. And you'll probably need more than that to get accepted. When I did my undergrad in engineering, there were 4.0-GPA high school students who failed general courses. High school GPA doesn't mean much.
His dad is a joke.
Yep. Just remove the OAD rule and let RJ/Zion/Barrett types go straight to the league.
Not doing it for the money LMAO riiiight
Since Ryan isn't on here I will copy his last post from the phog because it's really good info. Remember this is the guy that had this stuff first that I had seen.
"FWIW, I was told back when I first mentioned Australia (different thread I think? maybe a locked one?) that it was already signed and the rest of this was going to be him and his dad doing a bit of a dog and pony show. He had a big offer to play in China, but they opted for UA and Australia over that."
RJ sure made it sound like he never wanted to play college ball. If that really is the case, good riddance.
@dylans That or something bitching about Adidas. Who is even on their circuit this year? :thinking:
“He’ll definitely be more prepared for NBA life than if he went to college”
@BeddieKU23 If you wanna barf, there are some great quotes for that from Rod Lavar Hampton here: https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/RJ-Hampton-pro-deal-New-Zealand-Breakers-132369179/ ↗
ESPN ending any potential suspense for sure lol.
KUSTEVE said:
If we don't get Dotson back...and Q won't come back... are we looking at Marcus running point?
That's an NIT team. Need Dot back.
jayballer73 said:
BShark said:
jayballer73 said:
KUSTEVE said:
He has his Twitter photo upside down, so I guess he means down under by that. I'd much rather have a 2nd year Dotson over him anyway. 8:30 AM Eastern is 8:30PM in Australia. Next...
P.S. What do you want to bet that Jalen either stays with Michigan, or goes to UNC now?
he will stay at Michigan
KU or UNC all the way is what I've heard and KU has a great shot regardless of RJ commiting to the NBL.
I wouldn't count on KU at all anymore at this point. - -If it was just RJ not coming would be one thing. But with the combination - Of RJ Dad pulling his crap - -and then Juwan being the hire at Michigan - -and looking like Yaklich staying at Michigan - -Wilson will reverse direction and stay put along with their other commit.
Another case of where the parents will win out -they love Michigan and named him after Jalen - -at this point with the way this fricken year has went - -like you said a couple of posts back - -you think our recruiting is done - -your right it is. - - -WITHOUT Jalen - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@Kcmatt7 Lavar Hampton needed that million.
jayballer73 said:
KUSTEVE said:
He has his Twitter photo upside down, so I guess he means down under by that. I'd much rather have a 2nd year Dotson over him anyway. 8:30 AM Eastern is 8:30PM in Australia. Next...
P.S. What do you want to bet that Jalen either stays with Michigan, or goes to UNC now?
he will stay at Michigan
KU or UNC all the way is what I've heard and KU has a great shot regardless of RJ commiting to the NBL.
@KUSTEVE That has nothing to do with it, but Hampton is going to the NBL.
@Crimsonorblue22 Yeah it's done. The New Zealand team removed and and all suspense lol.
HighEliteMajor said:
@BShark Your logic is inescapable of course ... I’m a whiner on this topic.
I mean I mostly agree with you on THIS one. This is a 3 ring circus and it's absurd.
HighEliteMajor said:
Ah how I love the presumed OAD drama. Lovely, isn’t it?
Self has zero options now basically. In this instance he did get hamstrung a bit in the early part of the cycle. We will never know but I am convinced the class is all but done at this point otherwise.
I will be very intrigued to see how 2020 goes. It will need to be a large class.
I just...I can't... wake me up in 11 hours.
BeddieKU23 said:
Oh well KU will survive without.
If the roster ends up being
Dot
Garrett
Ochai
Silvio
Doke
Bench
Wilson
Dave
McBride
Enaruna
Braun
Lightfoot
Random body
We are in for some butt clinching shooting nights but that's a real good team that wins the league and is a high seed.
@BeddieKU23 Lavar errr Rod Hampton said he was "praying Devon Dotson stays in (the draft)". I'm pretty off it.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@FarmerJayhawk but, if grimes wants to come back and play pt.....
I mean I’d take him over McBride
WE HAVE ESTABLISHED THAT DOTSON WILL BE THE PG PLEASE AND THANK YOU
@HighEliteMajor Might be wanting a big commit-able offer which could mean prep school for a year. I could see KU going for him more if it's a whiff on RJ.
@Kcmatt7 I think Self would even be interested at this point but Grimes' circle? I very much doubt it.
Woodrow said:
There is a lot of smoke suggesting R.J. is headed overseas. I wonder if Self is on the phone with Q trying to kiss and make up. Not saying he would come back , but we need another player in the back court...
Dotson is my first choice. Even if he does come back, adding another body would be preferable. It won't be Grimes, but maybe someone like Nah'Shon Hyland.
Zags hedging as well: 🐦 View Tweet
This has waaaaay more traction than I would like to see.
@Woodrow 100% need Dotson back now and next year will be fine.
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
Aaaaand it's gaining national traction
😔😔😔
Alternatively...
I think what you mentioned earlier...announcing KU tomorrow and then overseas still being an option could be very real.
Aaaaand it's gaining national traction
@Marco I need to see more of Berry. I think McBride can be a contributor eventually because his jump shot is elite. I just don't know yet if Berry appears to have any elite attributes. If anyone here has watched him play they would easily know more than the those of us that haven't.
@jayballer73 UNC is more likely than Michigan BUT I still think KU has a real shot regardless of Hampton.
@FarmerJayhawk Would take Walker tbh
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
@FarmerJayhawk Tait backing this up on twitter now 🐦 View Tweet
I know who is source is so that makes a lot of sense.
Matt is my assumption. Edit: You know who I mean I assume, the other Matt.
Another older tweet on it: 🐦 View Tweet
@FarmerJayhawk Tait backing this up on twitter now 🐦 View Tweet
FarmerJayhawk said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Is his inverted twitter picture a subtle reference to Australia?
Nah. Kids these days just like to mess with people. I just think old pops is rowing that boat south.
Guy on the phog said he did that the day his old HS hoops coach was re-assigned from Little Elm.
@FarmerJayhawk This is too intense lol, I gotta close twitter and the phog and be productive.
SMOKE SZN
Self was in fact down in Australia.
Woodrow said:
Oh boy. That would be a huge blow.
Absolutely. We definitely can't blame the coaching staff on it though.
Nervous
7:30 AM CST announcement time.
alwaysajayhawk said:
@Crimsonorblue22 I haven't heard anything solid, but I'm hearing that he is thinking about going to prep school for his senior year
I think this would be a really good idea. It's so hard to tell how good kids are against KS HS competition. Even fringe guys just crush it usually. Frankamp broke records iirc and he didn't even have a huge impact at WSU.
@Gorilla72 I don't think so.
@HighEliteMajor It's a double edged sword. Don't offer a spot/minutes and you miss guys. Recruiting is a tough balance and there is a reason that it's always a handful of coaches/programs at the top with sustained excellence.
@FarmerJayhawk I can see the point of the staff on it. I really like all the guards you listed and have mentioned them before. But also in that post I don't see a ton of harm in offering and taking Berry early if he wants to be a Jayhawk. It really boils down to how many guards KU is going to need to take.
One last thing is that I think Self has been bitten more often than not with super early commitments in the past, these are ones I can remember...
Peters: development plateaued, some weird crap went down and eventually he quit basketball
Jacobs: development plateaued and also didn't really grow at all, got recruited over (McBride) before even enrolling and ended up at Depaul
Woolridge: not sure what the deal was here, but he wasn't good
Frankamp: not really B12 level
Brannen Greene: actually one of the most successful really early commits, which says a lot
So maybe Bill wants to mainly wait to take kids until they are SRs in HS.