FarmerJayhawk said:
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Speaking of Kyree Walker, Jerry Meyer just put in a CB pick for KU.
WHOAAAA - -really? - ok , Ok , Ok - I'm not going to start getting worked up - - -I'm not - - I'm not lol
Yes, be patient on this one. We probably won't know much until July at the earliest. He still has to get all his coursework done. The good news is Hillcrest has a reputation of.. ummmm.... making it happen
Adidas version of Oak Hill? :joy:
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Speaking of Kyree Walker, Jerry Meyer just put in a CB pick for KU.
No reason for KU not to make a big push. Kid is super entrenched with Adidas as well.
Zion says HI....Never hurts that he's on the grassroots program probably being influenced to stay with Adidas though
In that case Zion was Nike and then Adidas made a play to try and recruit him for KU. Didn't work out but this is a lot different than Zion's situation.
Walker has been at one of the bigger Adidas AAU teams and been going to an Adidas prep school.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Speaking of Kyree Walker, Jerry Meyer just put in a CB pick for KU.
No reason for KU not to make a big push. Kid is super entrenched with Adidas as well.
@FarmerJayhawk At this point I'd be okay with running it back. Would rather have Walker than Grimes but ya know a bird in the hand these days.
@FarmerJayhawk Lol yep. If it's weed that doesn't change my opinion on wanting him at all.
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
Dotson was previously scheduled to do a workout for the Kings today and is no longer reported as going to be there. :pray_tone2:
So he either is coming back or got a guarantee.
REALLY NOT LIKING THE SECOND POSSIBILITY
Dotson was previously scheduled to do a workout for the Kings today and is no longer reported as going to be there. :pray_tone2:
BeddieKU23 said:
If we wanted a sit-out transfer I'd take a hard look at Arizona's Devonaire Doutrive!
Odd situation. Main Arizona insider is saying it's not basketball related. He followed up on that with more info but it's a VIP post on their board so I can't read that.
He's a good developmental prospect. I think he'd be a good take.
BigBad said:
Great coaches like Self break you down and build you up. Some players break early and build early(Dotson), some break early and take half a season(Oubre), and some break and need more than 1 season to really get it. I'd put Grimes into that last category. Of course, his mental makeup inst going to allow himself to be coached long enough to maximize his overhyped ability.
Some break entirely and never recover (Bragg).
@dylans yes
jayballer73 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
No surprise on the first
Iowa St was looking for another scoring guard for this year. Looks like they found him
would we be interested in Mack at all?
No
@jayballer73 I believe you like Kyree Walker about as much as I do. Sounding like KU will make a push to get him for next season, but it would be late, maybe even Brandon Rush late.
dylans said:
I’m kinda over kids who don’t want to be at KU. F’em. If he shows up KU will be better (and he will play hard), but DeVonte declaring he would skip the combine and return to KU was the coolest thing I can think of. Wish we could get that kind of commitment out of another player of that caliber.
Pretty rare.
dylans said:
Last years team didn’t excite. This upcoming roster doesn’t look very great either. Definitely not a championship contender without another addition and a ton of luck. And possibly a first round exit without Dotson.
There are some positives though. The unathletic guys (Lawsons, Charlie, Q) are all leaving so the defense should be able to get a lot better.
Lawson scored a lot, but was inefficient. Overall I don't think replacing him with Silvio is the end of the world.
A lot will depend on Dotson, and any potential additions. Agree that it wouldn't be pretty without Dotson. If he does return, and KU adds just one impact guard that can shoot it*, that changes things considerably.
*Wilson or Walker realistically
HighEliteMajor said:
Odd .. if Grimes thought he should be playing PG, he committed to KU after Dotson committed. Not sure what his camp thought.
This was the main reason Marquette thought they had a chance. But Bill did a great job selling Q on the program. It's too bad Grimes was just so damn slow and it was such a huge adjustment for him to play off the ball.
Gorilla72 said:
Kinda curious as to why Grimes would transfer. He would have to sit a year. He can play at KU....
His circle still firmly believes he is a PG and that Bill mis-handled him is my understanding of the situation.
Texas is going to hire Yaklich. This will hurt what chance Michigan had to retain Jalen Wilson.
HighEliteMajor said:
@Texas-Hawk-10 You make good points about Garrett. Concerns are that Garrett is slow with the ball. Plodding is the word that comes to my mind. He is zero threat scoring wise beyond driving as has been discussed many times. That said, I have no idea if McBride could handle it. Either way, we’d be in an unenviable spot.
Bill Self and a bag of rocks: a love story.
jayballer73 said:
Got more Tornado warnings firing up out to the west and then South West of Topeka
It's downright nuts right now. One moment, raining cats and dogs, within 5 minutes the sun was out and shining...
Not everyone was lucky unfortunately. Scary stuff!
@HighEliteMajor Fair, he does have a little bit of a track record.
Not that it was really in doubt but Silvio has confirmed he officially removed his name from the draft and will play for KU next year.
KUSTEVE said:
I read where the Dotson family was upset over a story a week ago saying he would be back. They adamantly denied they had made any decision at all. I mean...if Dotson doesn't come back, i'll bet we'll see Derryck Thornton's name come popping up. Ugh...
Whoever started that rumor needs to disappear...
As for Thornton, not in any universe. I'd run Garrett out at the PT over him.
Per Goodman
Here are the numbers I have compiled thus far: - 177 college underclassmen declared for the NBA Draft. - 47 Still undecided with deadline tomorrow. - 77 will stay in the draft - 53 will return to school
Already more than can be drafted staying in. Players realizing they have more value than a scholarship perhaps. The final numbers will be really intriguing.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
You guys!
TELL ME MORE CRIMS
@dylans I get the annoyance, I really do. But KU will end up landing some guys.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Especially with an absolutely gaping hole at the wing. He wants the ball in his hands as more of a guard (personally I like him more as a 3) but he can do that playing off guard at KU. Dead eye shooter too. 43 and 47 percent the last two years. 80% from the line over his career too.
Yeah he'd be great to have.
@FarmerJayhawk Yay
Oh yeah, absolutely will LOVE to see this recruiting cycle end. KU/Self will bounce back I have no doubt.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Kyree is a different kind of dude too. He popped for ASU suuuuper early. Like Markese Jacobs early. I don't get the feeling that he wants much of the attention.
I feel we do well in these spots.
@BeddieKU23 I mean at this stage if he reclasses, many schools are full up. Bill Self needs to do the shit Calipari did with Juzang. He needs to stay Adidas as @FarmerJayhawk mentioned.
BeddieKU23 said:
So who else is recruiting Walker? Hard to imagine other programs not going after him with both bags available.
Just Arkansas. If Nike were to win Memphis. But if he is reclassing KU would be the driving force since those two schools are full.
@FarmerJayhawk I have seen that (Walker RJ either/or not both) bandied about in a couple articles before, one on Rivals I think. If Arkansas isn't in the picture, it would have to be KU I'd think. Saw nothing but Arkansas or KU and he is Adidas all the way I believe.
@Woodrow Not sure, he will be 19 before the next season even starts though.
approxinfinity said:
Hyland is listed as a SG, but he's 6'3 and highlights show decent handles and ball in his hands a lot. Backup PG? I'm not sure I'm ready to see a 0 on the court yet. Unless he's a badass.
Hyland could be amazing in time but wouldn't move the needle much next year. That kinda seems odd but I think it's true.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
I heard he's w/family today, announcing tmrw. Sorry if someone already said that.
Thanks
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
HighEliteMajor said:
Say Dotson doesn't come back. So what?
NIT
Lol at this. We could run out Free State High and Self would get them to 5th in the league.
G: Garrett
G: Ochai
G: Wilson
F: Silvio
F: Doke
That's a possible Sweet 16 team.
Now do it but w/o Wilson since he is far from a lock. It's definitely worrisome and Doke can't be counted to stay healthy all year. Even if he did I think it's borderline without Dotson. That said, hopefully Dotson announces his return in the next 24 hours. Seeing lots of kids announcing they will be back today.
Big Jalen Wilson update from a guy that talked to his coach here on page 10: https://247sports.com/college/kansas/Board/103719/Contents/Jalen-Wilson-132015495/?Page=10#M132271168 ↗
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BShark I'm a lil nervous, mainly thinking about next years pt's. Love to see him go before what's his name, not to be mentioned by me again!
Me too, next year would be rough without Dot and nothing is official until it is announced.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@Kcmatt7 so you think he will stay in?
They have said first round or bust this yr
Woodrow said:
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Been in the works for 3 months!! Surely Self knew this.
Did any coach visit RJ the last three weeks? Pretty telling.
Kcmatt7 said:
HighEliteMajor said:
Say Dotson doesn't come back. So what?
My guess is that if he doesn't come back the staff will be on the phone figuring out who wants to come start at PG for us and help them get enrolled in summer classes so they can reclass by August. At least 20 guys in the top 30 would be eligible for the 2020 draft if they could finish the classes they need in time.
Duke did it twice (with Bagley and Thornton) in the past 4 years.
There would definitely be a BIG push but I want Dotson back.
Barring Bill finding a late miracle to run the point or a very high impact combo/2 guard.
HighEliteMajor said:
Say Dotson doesn't come back. So what?
NIT
@Woodrow Self should drop a big bag. Get it done.
Players like McBride and Braun will be key going forward in the new landscape.
kjayhawks said:
Does this mean Grimes will return?
no
@justanotherfan RJ had a bigger offer from China according to reports but took the Australia offer due to English language and perceived better lifestyle.
Zion already had a huge brand w/o Duke or college basketball. That said, ESPN/Duke definitely helped him to some extent.
Without knowing how much Zion and his family got to go to Duke, I was surprised he didn't go the pro route simply to sign a deal early. Like you said, it would have been millions.
We could be looking at a huge shift where even the big schools are closer to what is currently MVC level or thereabouts. There is really no reason for anyone in the top 10 minimum (maybe even expand this) to play college ball, then the rates will go up for the 2nd tier talent.