@kjayhawks said in KU Offseason Chef Bill Cooking Thread:
I think Udeh and Kj could both start next season.
No.
@kjayhawks said in KU Offseason Chef Bill Cooking Thread:
I think MJ has a ton of upside if he can develop over the summer. Juan, Adams, MJ, KJ and Udeh is a good line up
YUCK. Ball handling and shooting would both be ATROCIOUS.
@kjayhawks KSU can't rebound and Kentucky sucks defensively. Interesting game.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Alpha Kevin, 2023-2024:
When the replacements get announced I think most will be pleasantly surprised
You mean the transfers in yeah? I'd agree with that. I think we are shaping up to have a rather nice roster.
Marcus Adams officially reclassing to 23.
Do NOT rule out Udeh starting at the 5 next year and KJ coming off the bench. All I will say on the matter.
@drgnslayr Word is the staff was blown away by early practices from Gradey and figured he would be a lottery pick.
@drgnslayr Recruiting is typically done with that in mind. Would assume this year they were operating as such that Kevin/Jalen/Gradey would not be back.
@approxinfinity he's gone
lol
@BeddieKU23 said in KU Offseason Chef Bill Cooking Thread:
@BShark said in KU Offseason Chef Bill Cooking Thread:
@kuballin10 said in KU Offseason Chef Bill Cooking Thread:
@BShark Portal should be Bill’s favorite thing. Proven d1 experience that can come here right away and pick it up quick
Yeah I think we add two starter level guys this offseason.
Not enough tbh
Hard to expect too much more than that. I think it gets you to where we are accustom to with a decent bench.
@kuballin10 said in KU Offseason Chef Bill Cooking Thread:
@BShark Bill gettin soft? Lol
I think coming off the title he was definitely a bit soft in terms of axing non-KU level players.
@approxinfinity said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
@dylans @BShark i agree, though have followed much less of who is involved with whom, that Norm is a good piece of the puzzle and our staff is complete and solid. I didnt feel that way after Danny left before Dooley returned. Our staff is giving Bill everything he needs right now. It was just very bad luck Bill had to be out.
And, I have enjoyed the fact we didnt have to find some fault in our head coach this year, as much as I didnt want to lose.
Bill out + Dajuan being hurt for the 2nd half were the keys to the loss.
@kuballin10 said in KU Offseason Chef Bill Cooking Thread:
@BShark Portal should be Bill’s favorite thing. Proven d1 experience that can come here right away and pick it up quick
Yeah I think we add two starter level guys this offseason.
@kuballin10 said in KU Offseason Chef Bill Cooking Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 you can’t be serious when none of those guys played big minutes. Having experience with a senior connor Teahan or Amir Jefferson who hardly play is not “experience”
Can’t believe you even attempted to argue that as 4 true freshman for Duke dominated and won it all
That was also the last time it happened. More importantly KU doesn't have the resources to pull that kind of class (3 top 10 type guys) plus you need the class to actually be good which is no guarantee as we saw this year. Outside of a few guys this year was devoid of elite play from FR.
KU tried very hard to get Jones and Okafor. Off the record, Jones may have been Bill's most wanted PG recruit ever. Duke gonna Duke though.
@dylans We are already seeing a bit of a shift to this with big programs. Bill has filled in the gaps as needed. Got his main guy in Kevin to fill a starting spot this year. Big class the year before with two real contributors on the title team. I'm counting JCL, who could have played more but was serviceable when he did. As 8th guys go, he was good. This year I feel like we need two starters, and that Self gets it done.
@dylans said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
I see folks say that Norm is a great assistant coach. What no one says is what they specifically find to be good about his coaching. What does Norm actually bring to the table? He doesn’t seem to be a big recruiter. He is certainly not head coach material - very little in game adjustments, no use of timeouts during an 11-0 run, etc. the evidence of him being a poor head coach is overwhelming by both record and eye test; what does he bring as an assistant?
I honestly never gave Norm much thought before his interim spat, but try as I might I can’t come up with what he brings to the table. Past assistants we could see what they did - Manning was good with bigs. Dooley was good at defensive principles. Snacks procured things. Townson is the bag man. Case seems to be a good recruiter and guards coach.
Kurtis in addition to recruiting is also our shot doctor iirc
Norm recruits well. Pulled Zuby (a Nike kid with offers from TX and Ark) and got our foot in the door with Elmarko for Bill to close. I think Bill's personal involvement and not banging the drum at Arrowhead to make sure we got Elmarko says a lot. Never know until they get here but I think he is starter good from the jump. The other two current 23 commits not so much. Those are just recent examples. Historically Norm was key with Embiid, Dotson, Oubre etc
Case is on his way to being an elite recruiter, potentially. Very hard worker. Was big in locking up Chris Johnson early, took McDowell away from Wake Forest at the 11th hour while slow rolling a bit previously. Doing massive work in the 24 class.
I don't have major complaints with our coaching staff. Very short list of guys I'd take and make room for. Bryan Hodgson might be the entire list and I think he is on his way to a HC job.
@Kcmatt7 said in KU Offseason Chef Bill Cooking Thread:
We could argue raw talent vs experience vs whatever all day.
What KU lacked this year was any semblance of depth. Period.
KU needs to have 7 or 8 guys who can play basketball at this level. Idc if they are freshman or seniors. But this year was honestly unacceptable. The transfer portal and NIL should almost guarantee KU has 7 dudes who can play. We didn’t this year, and I felt like it cost us big time.
Really unfortunate. Part of it is on Bill. He kept Cam and Cuffe around after last year. If you replace them with two other guys that might contribute, it just increases the chance of having some decent guys on the bench. This ended up being important because Zach and Bob did not develop like the staff would have hoped. Zach was expected to start. It's fairly rare that the staff misses that badly, to be quite honest.
So I think they definitely expected to have a more playable bench this year. It didn't work out. Hopefully Bill is ready to cut loose the dead weight. It's a business and "contracts" with players are year to year more than ever now.
@FarmerJayhawk said in KU Offseason Chef Bill Cooking Thread:
@wissox Gradey and Kevin are 100% gone. Cuffe and Cam also out the door. TBD on the others but my guess is Zach and Yesufu are gone as well.
This is a very good guess. MJ and Joe have decisions to make. Could see Joe wanting to go to a level where he gets to shine a bit more.
If 4 leave it lets you bring in two starter level guys. Then boom, contender again.
@cragarhawk Would expect Zuby to return as well.
@jayballer67 said in KU Offseason Chef Bill Cooking Thread:
@Kcmatt7 said in KU Offseason Chef Bill Cooking Thread:
Let’s start churning. 8 new faces next season would be my guess
Jalen - - Kevin - - Grady - - Cam - - MJ - - Bobby - -who else ?
Cuffe gone. Zach gone.
I think most of the board will like the guy I expect we are getting.
@kjayhawks said in KU Offseason Chef Bill Cooking Thread:
Im honestly worried we will be a average next season but that’s gonna happen at one point here
Bill's floor is pretty high but let's see who he portals for the starters. :)
@dylans said in KU Offseason Chef Bill Cooking Thread:
@BShark Joe gets some run, but the freshmen may show him the door? I think Bobby loves Bill, would about have to push him out (just my perception).
Tend to agree with this and don't think Bob will get pushed out.
@dylans said in KU Offseason Chef Bill Cooking Thread:
@BShark 7 in would be 8 out. Who all is staying - Harris, KJ, Udeh, Zuby, Bobby that it?
First four you mentioned and then Bob or Joe is my guess.
@Kcmatt7 said in KU Offseason Chef Bill Cooking Thread:
Let’s start churning. 8 new faces next season would be my guess
Going with 7 personally.
@dylans said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
@jayballer67 Free agency time.
Good news soon. I also made a thread for just KU moves.
@Kcmatt7 said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
@BShark said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
How many points do we think Self was worth here? At least 10?
You can tell that the initial game plan worked great. But then they adjusted and Norm never did
Ding ding ding.
SOON
How many points do we think Self was worth here? At least 10?
Insane from Norm
Choked no way around it.
@cragarhawk said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
Jesus. Do we even want to win
Obviously yes, next question.
Missouri fans trolling KU fans while they are losing to Princeton is SOOOO Missouri.
@wissox said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
This game changed once KJ came back in.
He's pretty important for sure. Shame he couldn't play more.
@benshawks08 said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
Imagine kj only had the two fouls he actually committed this game.
Was about to say something along these lines...
@Kcmatt7 said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
@BShark still if we blow this one, we deserved it. We had every chance to put this one away in the 1st half
Norm etc
@jayballer67 said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
@BShark said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
We got to re group ---- oh shit Zach coming in
Zach about to cook. Don't question it lol.
question is cook whtat
Fresh three pointers right off the grill.
@Kcmatt7 said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
@benshawks08 probably 8 minute mark you put Udeh back in. 4 minutes KJ
Nice of the refs to have such a massive effect on this game. Personally I love it.
@benshawks08 said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
@BShark said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
We got to re group ---- oh shit Zach coming in
Zach about to cook. Don't question it lol.
We know he will shoot it. Not scared of the moment.
Exactly.
@jayballer67 said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
We got to re group ---- oh shit Zach coming in
Zach about to cook. Don't question it lol.
Vols please I beg. Won't find me cheering for Ricky often.
Awesome Juan stat here.
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
I don't feel good about coach! Drs released him. Mind over matter. Said he did a lot of sitting at practice, he can do the same at the game. Maybe he's done coaching, period, that worried. We really need him today. I'm bummed.
Lots of people overreacting wow.
He is a week removed from invasive surgery. I don't think he should coach next week if we win today.
Might not be on much for this one.
@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Kowacie Reeves in the Portal for Florida, formely a 4 star prospect. I have been intrigued with this one for a bit. So Athletic, can shoot a bit. Hasn't had a coach to put it all together but a kid with high upside I think still.
Kowacie mentions interest from KU among a million others. Knew he'd be in demand
Big no for me. Also have to think Georgia is the favorite there.
Tang 2 the final four
@jayballer67 I hope they do it. I dare them.