KUSTEVE said:
He would've had Dotson and Charlie ahead of him. Good kid, but it could take years for him to make an impact with us. Let's get somebody with some height who can drill it from 3 with good handles.
There is a player who you are describing. His last name is McBride. :thinking:
Well, it happened. Jacobs and KU are parting ways.
https://247sports.com/college/kansas/Article/2019-guard-Markese-Jacobs-Kansas-part-ways-121004463/ ↗
@JayHawkFanToo I'm not going off rankings with Jacobs and the kid that would possibly be replacing him is unranked. Mostly for the reasons I laid out but is a he's a hell of a player.
JayHawkFanToo said:
Jacobs is an interesting situation. All the articles I have read of him (which there are not many) seem to indicate he is playing well. The drop in the rankings is somewhat surprising and worrisome; I wonder if his height is being factored as a bigger negative than we think, particularly when ranking services appear to be gearing up to evaluate player for immediate NBA potential since that is coming in the not too distant future and Jacosbs pro potential appears very limited.
Every picture I have seen of him he is always wearing KU gear and it would be pretty tough for him not to come, at least initially, to KU.
I'm just going to c/p a post I made on the phog recently to start.
As for Jacobs I have family and friends in Chicago and the reviews are pretty mixed. He sounds like he has the pitbull mentality/right amount of crazy you need to succeed under Self and he does some nice things, but he needs to increase his skill level. He absolutely loves KU so it would be a big feel bad if KU essentially cut him and it probably wouldn't go over well with Mac Fire either.
Additional comments
So yeah Adam Miller is a stud PG that is also playing for Mac Irvin Fire. If KU/Self cuts Jacobs, and it isn't a mutual decision that would likely effect KU's chances there.
KU is well positioned for a strong guard haul in 2020 (Berry, Miller, Thompson, Strawther*), but when you start eliminating some of the options essentially, it could end poorly. For this reason I think there is a chance KU sticks it out with Jacobs. Though I believe Illinois is EXTREMELY strong with Miller and very much the favorite at this time.
From a pure basketball standpoint I would take Issac McBride. He's really good but has been under the radar for a long time. For awhile his AAU team was team Penny which had the Lawsons, James Wiseman, Zion Harmon, DJ Jeffries etc...
He got a bit more exposure, and his KU offer when he switched to Joe Johnson Arkansas Hawks this Spring/Summer iirc.
*Strawther might end up more of a forward. Very talented and loves KU. Not entirely sure of the connection there.
Been hearing good things.
kjayhawks said:
Okay idk if I’m getting old and missing it but what local station will have this content? Is a KC area only deal or like it was before on NBC or CW.
It doesn't specify. I'm thinking any local station that can get their hands on it would want to. I can get in KMCI but I am hoping WIBW or KSNT out of Topeka also carry it.
JayhawksandChill said:
lordy, about time.
You'd think this would be easy but Zenger was a nincompoop.
Already infinitely better than Zenger.
@mayjay Agree. I very much doubt Obama has a "fixer". LOL
Obama would have already been out of office in the same situation.
Michigan lost by 8....
Michigan, might lose a funsies game against KK Mega Bemax, who Kentucky absolutely dumpstered 100-64.
Last update I noticed on twitter was 54-45 Mega was ahead.
@BeddieKU23 Fair enough. Though I think he might be selling Hurt on having a starring role which he absolutely would. KJ would have to step up into a bigger role and Dotson would be bearing a heavy load as well. I'm just not sure where the star signing would come from, outside of Hurt.
Seems like a year to mostly develop from within, especially the guards.
dylans said:
Wright was under the goal posts watching Chalmers shot from the stands. I think you mean Arthur. The difference in game experience playing together is staggering in my opinion. Chalmers, Robinson, Rush, Kauhn, and Arthur started most of 2 years together. Throw in Jackson and Collins and all the main players had 2 years of game experience together.
I hope Moore’s Cal numbers are more an indication of what he’s capable of than his poor showing in Italy. I worry he’ll get abused on defense.
Dotson and Grimes are the players that need to develop quickly or a national title will rapidly slip away.
I’m counting on Dedric to be as advertised.
Last year you could really tell the guards had a lot of experience playing together.
I just want to see Moore play at KU/under Self. I'm cautiously optimistic at this point with him.
Loads of the Dedric hype is coming out of the program itself, so that's saying something. When Bill likes the team, watch out.
BeddieKU23 said:
Welcome Back.
I can't see us taking McBride & Jacobs both, can you?.We could have 4 guys under the height of 6'2 battling for one position. Doesn't sound ideal? McBride would seem to indicate Dotson could be OAD? Concur?
I guess we could roll with two small guards again like the Frank/Devonte days. Just can't say that's ideal
I think the staff will try to get Anthony or Hampton and ultimately miss. So it's definitely not the ideal situation.
If McBride commits to KU before Anthony and Hampton announce, it would signal to me that KU and Jacobs are likely parting ways.
If the roster scenario I laid out does happen then imo
Starting line-up
Dotson
Garrett
KJ
Hurt
JRE
Strong bench contributors: McCormack, Moore, Williamson
Comfortable leads and teaching a lesson minutes: Mitch, Chandler
Development cycle: Agbaji, Jacobs, McBride.
The shooting in the starting line-up would be a bit rough w/o further development, so we will see.
It's a joke. He should have been fired. tOSU fans defending him are absolutely banal.
JayHawkFanToo said:
Actually, Blake Harris is originally from Chapel Hill, NC and he is moving to Raleigh, NC which is close to home (30 Miles) likely due to family situation for which the NCAA has granted waivers before. I take it hometown school UNC did not have room for him.
He is definitely not a UNC level player.
@Kcmatt7 Much more likely to get Chandler Lawson than Achiuwa. Also Sam Williamson is all but a Hawk at this point. I also think Zeke Nnaji is much more likely than Cockburn, but I'm not thinking either ends up at KU if things go according to plan.
@jayballer73 @BeddieKU23 The staff really likes Issac McBride. He's already been on a stealth unofficial visit and will be back for an official.
My early guess at next year's roster...
G: Dotson, Moore, McBride, Jacobs or a home run type signing ie Anthony or Hampton
G/W: Garrett, Agbaji, Williamson
W/F: KJ, Chandler
F/C: McCormack, Mitch, Hurt, JRE
I'd like jaybate to be able to read that if possible. He needs a dose of reality, instead of having his hand held.
@approxinfinity I understand. I wish I could have merged them all.
No one really appreciates jaybate. He just posts literal nonsense. He is awful and frequently brings nothing of substance. I assume it's because he is like 85 but man, he could probably do better. He's like the guy on the street corner babbling. Or anyone on crazy people forums that talk about how Taylor Swift has been replaced by a body double, probably a lizard person and she is part of a secret deep state with the pope who is trying to create a new world order.
Oh man I can be Jaybate too!
I'm going to be off of here for awhile. Seems for the best. Anyone worth contacting should already have my info.
Are you as drunk as I am right now? lol
Maybe just one thread next time?
jayballer73 said:
@BShark I read the article and saw where people were sayin hell ya so was curious if him being indited was helping us was this FBI thing - wasn't making a connection -it's Friday lol
Nah I was just being silly.
BeddieKU23 said:
same school as Achiuwa right?
Correct. He has been improving apparently and since KU had been keeping tabs on Achiuwa before that ship sailed, well, they were watching him play too. Could be a good fit. Defends well and has a mean jumper. Handles could use improvement.
jayballer73 said:
@BShark So what does any of this mean? - -I'm not sure. - - Other then looks like this bad boy gonna to prison for fraud. - -How does this or any of this help KU?
Um, what?
CAN I GET A HELL YEAH?
jayballer73 said:
have a question for you guys. - How strongly do you feel about Andrew Slater? The reason being was checking out the Kentucky board and they had a post on there where he had made his pick where he thought some guys would land. - He had Scottie Lewis probably ending up at St Johns - - -Antoine at Duke , and then he said JRE - -you would think end up at KU.
They had a response from a guy that said he thought Slater like him or not was usually pretty dead on with his picks. -True / No ? - how do you feel? I do realize that Earl transferred to IMG some were panicked that It meant bad news for us, Like I said though doesn't really mean a lot - -he just moving to be able to play against stiffer competition I think - - so how reliable do you think Slater is? - I've always thought he has been pretty decent. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Slater is as good as it gets and tied in for a national guy.
Bham/Ryan on the Phog said to keep an eye on Lester Quinones.
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/eric-bossi-s-peach-jam-blog-thursday ↗
tl;dr Self/KU seen as slowplaying Williamson but Self called him personally and Self/Snacks were at a game recently. Hopefully KU picks up the pressure here, should be a slam dunk if they do.
@FarmerJayhawk Getting just one of them would be pretty big and good enough for KU to have a really salty team imo.
BeddieKU23 said:
If he's not mentioning us that sounds like KU isn't making him a priority.
I'm not surprised.
I still hope that Duke can't get Anthony, Hampton and James. The key for KU will be reading the situation and prioritizing who they can of those three.
@BeddieKU23 Cole Anthony would be ideal.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Bad news! Our man was flown back to Charlotte 'cause an mri showed swelling of his knee. He practiced this am, and they didn't say anything happened to hurt it. Haven't heard anymore.🙏 anyone else? Frank didn't play either, what's up? Been gone.
Graham is gonna be out for awhile.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
I watched diallo play a summer league game, he's so fun to watch! The coach or owner was being interviewed, he had a lot of nice things to say. Cheick had more opportunities w/boogie going down last season. Still working hard w/his D. Diallo is so appreciative of his time at KU, he comes back, I see pics w/coaches and he went to Selfs HOF induction. I realize I'm in the minority, but I think Self did the right think w/diallo. He needed a lot more than 6 months to help us out, I sure wish it wasn't true! I hope they continue to work w/him cause he is one cool guy who really deserves it.
Diallo definitely is not bitter at Self/KU from what I've heard.
@JayHawkFanToo I'm all for baseball talk and if he wants to talk about the Yankees that's fine. But don't make a troll thread and expect zero kickback.
Kcmatt7 said:
The biggest evidence that Self messed up with Diallo was proving that he could take a very raw player directly out of HS and turn him into an adequate player and major contributor to a FF run in 3 and a half months.
Another piece of evidence that even Self felt he messed up the Diallo situation was starting Doke, an overweight player that had even less BBIQ than Diallo, over Lucas two seasons ago. Doke would have finished the year starting if he didn't get hurt.
Self knows he screwed up. It's ok. The important thing is that he clearly learned from it and got us to another FF.
Nailed it.
@JayHawkFanToo Come on now. The fact is he is sticking around the league for now. TRob and BMac aren't exactly setting the league on fire either. Self did wonders with TRob and Diallo COULD have contributed well if Self gave him a chance. Like KC said Self has succeeded in a similar situation twice now. Deep down I think Self knows he messed up with Diallo, but he would never admit it.
Kcmatt7 said:
Just calm down my dude. You CLEARLY meant to troll everyone. The title of the thread is "THIS OUGHT TO GET YOU HATERS SOME FIRE"
I'm just trying to point out, we don't appreciate it. I know it's summer and you're probably bored, but this isn't the place to come troll. This is a place for discussion and debate and self policing.
I would have liked to discuss whether or not I think the Yankees should or shouldn't trade for Machado. Interesting topic of discussion. Or what they do with their roster if the do indeed trade for him. Where does everyone move to?
But that isn't what you did. You came onto a KU website to kick a bunch of Royals fans while they are WAY down. Full well knowing that you were trying to get a rise out of people.
I'm not sure what was expected. There has to be some give and take with a thread like this. @jayballer73 you were clearly having some fun with the OP right? So others were just having some good natured fun back.
jayballer73 said:
JayHawkFanToo said:
Considering how much the Yankees spend, there is no question they have grossly underachieved. It has nothing to do with hating, it is an objective observation that anyone that look at the number agrees... heck, probably the Yankees themselves agree.
It has everything to do with hating - -you hate because New York is in a huge money market revenue , your mad because little markets like KC can't compete money wise - -has a lot to do with the size of the market. - New York can't help it for the size of the city.
If you are old enough to remember when free agency was in the infant stage KC was in on one of the first huge free agents - came down to KC & NY for all practical purposes Catfish Hunter - - -at the end of the story Catfish simply said - -wasn't about the money as much as he wanted to pay for a winner period. -- It IS all about hate/jealousy . - -I would bet your last dime if KC had the kind of money that NY has they would be doing the EXACT same thing spending mega dollars on free agents - or as the pretenders like to try and say buy championships. - You wanna try and tell me that if that was the case that your team wouldn't be dong the same thing? - You wanna try and sit there and tell me that your team would do better? --go ahead knock yourself out.
If you know anything you would know it's not by any means all about NY buying big time players. -This was just brought to light and talked about the other night when the discussion of NY going after Manny , who you think has the best farm system in the majors right now - - umm the Yankees, that works by drafting players out of College - -developing those players - so where is all the other farm systems? - doesn't every team have the opportunity to draft the same players develop the same players out of College? - Don't hate
Last time I checked NY was winning championships long before big time free agent players/signings - hmm let's see holds the most of any team in the majors I think what is it again? - -oh ya 26 - who is next? - -not even close. - -you talk about only 3 in the last however many years? - how many have others won? - - more then 1? - - maybe maybe there MIGHT be a team that has won 2---not even sure about that. - -But I knew I could get somebody's fire out of this got it - - mission accomplished. - -really just passing time through this boring summer anyways till my real pastime rolls around - - COLLEGE BASKETBALL. -but don't try and bring that here and talk about so called under achieve - -when you got so called other professional teams that are suppose to have also professional players and they have records of like 29-60 - -that's professional? - -come on now - if you have anything close to professional talent you would think you could field a team that was at least competitive . - -but I still appreciate your opinion - that's why I like this site - I hope no one takes this personal not intended for any of this to be like that. - -Have a great day my KU friend. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
But Too was just bringing up a valid point. He wasn't upset or using angry language. And he is correct, objectively speaking. The Yankees underachieve. KU has underachieved a lot under Self too, it's just the nature of the beast when the expectations are enormous.
jayballer73 said:
@kjayhawks Good for you , you keep laughing , we just keep winning but thank you like I said haters gonna hate - it's ok. MAYBE some day you can have a team too. - let me know when you do. - -thanks for the giggles though - -I needed a good laugh to start my day - your all right. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
When was the last Yankees WS title? It's been so long I don't remember. :thinking:
Just your standard KU hate hard-on today, lol.
Imagine if KU wins the tournament this year. Vick would have EE, EE, FF and a title. That would have to be the most success any player has had in the tournament while at KU.
wissox said:
I've got an idea. There's a coach who will be successful at KU. His name is Mark Mangino.
Did you see his recent twitter rampage? :joy:
BeddieKU23 said:
I'm interested to see how this hire goes with our basketball interests. I would assume Jeff Long will be in charge of finding the next Basketball Head Coach when Bill Self hangs it up. Hopefully its not anytime soon but when the day comes I hope he's the type of AD we can respect and appreciate when that time comes.
He's got his hands full with the football mess that's for sure. Fire the one in charge now, take your lumps and make the right hire
I bet Bill is involved with finding the next coach when he does step down.
approxinfinity said:
was something dumb. my fault! emojis back now.
:D ;)
Sanku
HighEliteMajor said:
@BShark I meant to post about Garrett, but there was some articles written about how he's changed his jump shot and is working hard to be a better shooter.
http://www.gctelegram.com/sports/20180702/ku-sophomore-garrett-changing-shooting-form ↗
If he gets his shooting numbers up there could be a very real chance he is one of the best couple players on the team.
@wrwlumpy Garrett is great. Some people write him off because of his jump shot but in every other way he is at worst above average at basketball.
Also I can rewatch that game rewind any day! :D
@Woodrow More info out now
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KU senior Lagerald Vick will wear No. 24 his senior season. His No. 2 had been given to Charlie Moore when Vick declared for the draft. Why No. 24? Taken from Bible's Book of Ephesians 4:22-24. Verse 24 is favorite part of passage of Vick and mom, his mom explained.
JayHawkFanToo said:
In all fairness, @KUin LA dd not ask to replace Coach Self with Turgeon, he simply stated that he hoped the "next" coach is Turgeon...at least this is how I read it.
I think KUSTEVE was referring to another post which was in the comment section of an article.
Offseason cannibalization.
Woodrow said:
Vick will wear #24 this year.
Thanks.