@jayballer73 Agree that Harris is not a subsitute for Romeo. I think he'd be more of a take if Doke goes.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Can't complain if he moves to 19.
I think it's hugely in KU's favor. It's basically Duke vs KU and Duke has kids slated for 19 already. Plus younger Jones should still be there.
@BeddieKU23 I was joking that Self was doing such activities at Romeo's house.
Another aspect of this move I like is it unclutters 2020 a bit. Hampton is for sure OAD and KU has a lot of strong connections to guards in the 20 class.
@FarmerJayhawk :handbag: :droplet: :eyes:
BeddieKU23 said:
| but its clear he has his eyes elsewhere right now
Yeah that was my main takeaway, that he is actively talking about who has the best chance to swipe him from KU. And look I get it KU is a dumpster fire but this is why early football commits don't mean much. Players are actively recruited while they are committed.
Sign him up!
Freaking football recruiting.
lol
dylans said:
@BShark I thought the Morri were ranked 35 to 45
I'm going with 247 composite. They might have been that high on one service.
@Kcmatt7 I can't imagine Bill winning with a player ranked merely 76th playing let alone starting.
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Frank Mason #118
Vick #81
Graham #99
Svi #239
Landen #239
Marcus Morris #113
Markieff Morris #118
Never seen it before, so I really don't see it starting now. :thinking:
@jayballer73 no malice just having fun.
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Some rumors swirling that Reaves was in a relationship with Greg's daughter and it went south. Shockernet seems divided on the matter.
ALSO THIS WILL STUN YOU BUT THERE IS A KU HATE THREAD ON THE FIRST PAGE.
Kcmatt7 said:
@Woodrow You have to read between the lines a little, but there are basically no other Blue Bloods chasing him. He is living in Kentucky, but UK won't even sniff him. That is especially concerning, considering they were desperate for bigs, he could be a possible 18 reclass, and he is a top 5 talent.
Something just doesn't smell right.
Ding fries are done.
justanotherfan said:
I'm willing to go on a limb and say that Quentin Grimes will be one of the five best players from this class.
Agree.
A second year out of him would be amazing but he has said he wants to be OAD a bunch so I'm not too hopeful.
justanotherfan said:
There's no guarantee KU can attract a better coach right now.
Beatty is the worst coach I've ever seen. I'd take an actual potato at HC.
I knew it was gonna be crazy after the obvious FU game coming from Lebron in game 2 but yeah it really shows it well.
BeddieKU23 said:
The Michael Jordan of Delaware declares for the Draft without an agent
Hope him and Spellman stay in.
I have no faith in Zendork's ability to hire a FB coach.
Next step: a competent coach
@JayHawkFanToo I'm just saying there are good options in developed countries. Agree it might be tougher to go to Japan given their culture towards outsiders.
Basketball has exploded in Europe so you are right that teams have a lot more home grown talent. Still there is money to be made for a good US player.
I have confidence that the KU staff will help outgoing players try and find the best situation for them.
JayHawkFanToo said:
Two completely different levels of recruiting. Illinois recruits or tries to recruit top tier, i.e. 3-5 Star players where KSU goes after middle level tier, i.e. 1-3 Star players and they migh now be able to go after fringe 4 Star players.
The key is knowing who you can get. Old balls at the end of his first stint at KSU started trying to recruit above his head and it cost them.
Kcmatt7 said:
@BeddieKU23 Well I'm sure it makes for a really awkward situation when Greg is in the corner watching.
KUSTEVE said:
@BShark Hey, why are all the Shlocker kids leaving? Think they're tired of seeing the shiny forehead?
Idk but my WSU fan friends kept telling me that WSU PLAYERS GRADUATE UNLIKE WHAT HAPPENS IN LAWRENCE.
I've been texting and calling them and no responses now...
@JayHawkFanToo Perry loves it in Australia and Landen is having a great time in Japan. Those would seem like two solid options depending on salary. Nice, highly developed countries. Australia has the added benefit of English being the primary language too.
And yeah the money is good in China but ugh the living conditions there.
@BeddieKU23 His SO year was extremely good. If he can return to that form with more usage he could carry them to...the NIT maybe....
McDuffie is their only good player returning. He will be really good for them if healthy but then it's a bunch of low ranked FR and some JUCOs. It will be a test.
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
There’s a connection with WKU and his guardian (Bassey is Nigerian) so he’ll be tough to land. Definitely need to check up on the guardian though.
I would figure if Self is getting involved that they think they can pull him/are willing to do what it takes. I also think it would almost have to be for 18.
I think it depends on Silvio either year. The 5 isn’t locked down for 2019 yet (if there’s issues with Silvio) and Bassey is the best option out there.
Dante would be my choice in 19.
Agree this will be a test for him. McDuffie if healthy is good but otherwise yeesh.
FarmerJayhawk said:
There’s a connection with WKU and his guardian (Bassey is Nigerian) so he’ll be tough to land. Definitely need to check up on the guardian though.
I would figure if Self is getting involved that they think they can pull him/are willing to do what it takes. I also think it would almost have to be for 18.
BeddieKU23 said:
Makes sense why they have had some many Juco's and under the radar recruits on campus lately. They just signed another, Dennis they think is a hidden gem
Every WSU recruit is a stud and hidden gem. Last time I interacted with a WSU fan I asked them to tell me exactly who the studs are in this class for them and who ends up being a star and what kind of numbers do they think those kids put up.
Got a bunch of silence in response.
The kid looks like a complete unknown, but also had offers from KSU, Ole Miss and Georgia Tech.
Kcmatt7 said:
What if Bassey comes? Do they not change their rankins? lol
They'd slot him in somewhere. Also BAH GAWD KU's class if that happens. Though I'd still rather avoid Bassey.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Unfortunately for us, I think there will be some lucrative offers for Doke overseas. He is a project with a huge potential payoff. But besides that, he has a bit of a "circus side show" effect going for him as well.
"Come one come all and see this giant freak Dunk everything!" He will, at the very least, sell some tickets. I think that makes him a valuable commodity for an overseas team trying to get people to gain an interest in basketball.
There may be, but they'll be more lucrative a year from now. Self and company are terrific at developing bigs (Silvio being the recent example) and this will be Doke's first healthy summer in Lawrence. Look out.
Would you rather have Doke or Bassey?
For the haters
justanotherfan said:
Wiggins has to be better than he was in Game 2 if Minnesota is going to steal a game or two this series.
Yeah I just don't see it. They kind of fired their shot game one and still lost.
Self is downright soft these days compared to Bruce and Shaka.
Brian Patrick, YOU'RE FIRED!
I'm not sure how Ochai is #118 247 composite. That's higher than his 247 or rivals rating and he doesn't have an ESPN profile.
Final 2018 247 rankings are out.
Grimes #11 up 1 spot
Dotson #18 up 1 spot
McCormack #37 up 9 spots
Ochai #165 up 142 spots
Kcmatt7 said:
Might finally be it for them.
I honestly wonder what's going on. He was in line to start.
Also something to note is that KJ will be 22 by the time KU plays its first game next season.
justanotherfan said:
KJ Lawson is probably going to be the guy that makes most of our lineups work because of his versatility. We can go big or small with KJ on the floor because he can slide up or down (and defend basically anyone but the biggest fives and quickest ones.
Against a big team, KJ plays the 3 and gives us ball handling. Imagine a lineup of Grimes-Langford-KJ-Dedric-Doke. That's a four out lineup that not many college teams can deal with. Switch Silvio or Big Dave for Doke and that's still a tough lineup to work with.
But KJ can also slide down the scale if we need him to. Imagine a small lineup with Dedric at the 5, KJ at the 4, then Grimes, Dotson and Moore. As @Kcmatt7 said, Dedric is big enough and strong enough to handle the 5 against everyone but the best 7 footers. KJ rebounds well enough to lock down the 4, and that lineup is a nightmare to guard because everyone can shoot and handle. I think we played a team like that one time... (probably too soon).
With the ability to plug KJ, Grimes and Agbaji into a variety of lineups because of their size, skill and athleticism, KU isn't locked into specific lineups. That's one benefit of KJ having been here all year. He knows the responsibilities of the different spots and will probably play almost all of those spots over the next year.
I'm with you on KJ. At first when he came here I wasn't but he was solid on the Italy trip and I've been hearing only good things. I think he's going to play, and play a lot. The kind of player that just finds minutes on a Self team.
Oh and I think you actually named the early starting line-up, provided Romeo isn't landed.
Dotson - Moore- Grimes - KJ - Dedric.
Maybe Garrett sneaks in there instead of Moore.
With Garrett it could easily be an elite defensive line-up. Moore makes it a little better offensively but probably slightly worse overall. Though, against opposing line-ups where you can try to hide Moore defensively it might be better.
That's a lot of length and disruption of passing lanes. Dedric has a freak show 7'2.5'' wingspan. KJ is no slouch either with a 7' wingspan. Grimes for a guard fooling around with a 6'7'' wingspan should be disruptive as well. In the Garrett line-up, well we know about his D already. He had some lapses but is a willing defender and is also rangy and long (though I don't know his wingspan measurement). Then you have Dotson at PG at 6'2'' with good lateral quickness and from everything I've seen he is a willing defender as well. Dotson would be the only player out there under 6'5''. That's a nightmare for opposing offenses if everybody is locked in and committed on D.
Fire sale at WSU.
jayballer73 said:
@BShark Well jumpin - -gee- -hossie--toads - -why the hell is Coach Self even messing with this train wreck then?
He's talented of course.
But um I'll just put it this way, he is a top 5 player. People think he will go to...Western Kentucky...
They don't come any sleazier than Rick Stansbury. I'd prefer KU didn't bother.