@justanotherfan Great point about Lebron. I don't want to get into it much and stir things up but I very much agree with you.
A great movie I watched not too long ago from the 70s called Being There touched on these subjects somewhat. Basically if you are white, wear a nice suit and speak in platitudes you can succeed in American politics, almost no matter how dumb you are...
Only the 3rd OK prep player to be offered by KU since Xavier Henry played at KU. Other two being Trae Young and Nino Jackson. Thanks to Sam Duren via twitter for this nugget, I wouldn't have thought about it. Ended up dm'ing with some old OK hoop heads about Nino. Man that kid could ball.
@BeddieKU23 Yeah doesn't take much digging tbh.
Bryce is very active on twitter and has put out the same kind of message about every offer but it does seem like this one is special for him.
It would be pretty damn cool for Self. This would have to be his first father/son combo coached. :D
I won't be surprised if Thompson pops early (for KU duh).
Dynamic duo. :O
BeddieKU23 said:
Slater with a CB pick for Achiuwa to Florida St. Wondering what the connection is there.. Probably selling the Bacon/Issac success
Interesting.
BeddieKU23 said:
Quade Green's mother says her son will return to Kentucky.
That could put a kibosh on Haggans going to 18 class
Huh. Surprising.
BeddieKU23 said:
Braxton Key transferring from Alabama. Injury sidelined his 17-18 season big time. Big body, former top 50 recruit
This is a kid worth taking. Would do well under a real coach probably.
Kcmatt7 said:
@BShark Would be funny. His pinned tweet is "In case ANYONE is confused/Doubtful, I am 300% committed to Boise State"
Yeah I don't think that means crap if he could come to KU lol.
Wondering if the mystery player might be Jaycson Bereal.
GOOD. Didn't want to dick around and offer too late.
jayballer73 said:
@BShark I've been hearing a lot about this Green kid - -people saying he is a stud.- fill me in what position does he play? - -Was he the PG ? - -just curious. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
He is a large guard/wing.
dylans said:
Now offered?
Yes he has a KU offer.
@jaybate-1.0 If he wants to, I'd be all for it. Might not need the big practice body next season though. Should be stocked more to normal Self standards.
All I'm really saying is the players have more value than what the NCAA provides.
I'm all for what statmachine suggested in letting them go straight to the NBA again.
@Kcmatt7 You are right. Once I saw KU wasn't involved in the article I skimmed it.
Obviously it doesn't really work in the delusional fantasy world the NCAA parades, because most players were getting paid one way or another.
Kcmatt7 said:
@BShark Meh, fine with that. That article made it sound like he was a Spring commit and will be waiting out everyone and seeing where he can go to start immediately. Not sure that opportunity would exist here for him.
You mean Hall? KU is definitely in on better targets. If he is really waiting until next spring he's the kind of guy you keep the fires warm on while seeing if you strike out on Achiuwa, Lawson, Jalen Wilson and Josh Green.
Hell depending on development maybe you take Sam Williamson first too. And I'm not sure where Leech is at after his bad injury or even if he is still playing basketball but if he healed up okay he is an intriguing prospect too.
http://d1vision.com/malik-hall-recent-offers/ ↗
Doesn't look like KU is going too hard after Hall.
BeddieKU23 said:
Evan Daniels put his pick on Indiana. Usually reliable sort
Yeah Daniels only puts in his pick when it's over.
Yeah @BeddieKU23 you nailed it. I like Dave long term but he is not a typical mcdaa. Hope people aren't expecting too much.
Cockburn is a project but don't mind that offer.
Makes sense. Everything associated with kufball is crap so why not the conditioning too.
Looks like it's done to Indiana. Mystery recruit time!!!
Yeah the big difference is that wasn't a hit piece. Seemed reasonable.
@Kcmatt7 Agree. Unfortunate that KU was never really a player for him but like you said it's best to be out now. Looks like KU has been prioritizing other recruits anyway.
I MEAN LOOK AT SHAKA AND BRUCE JUST SWINGING THEIR AXE.
Self is soft now. He took Mitch in the fall and took Ochai before like...June...
Kcmatt7 said:
Not mad. Glad we got cut now instead of chasing a unicorn.
Agree. Fortunately it seems like KU didn't waste a lot of time here.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Woodrow said:
@FarmerJayhawk staff prioritizing other bigs over Carey or more he’s not interested?
Some of both. Hurt and JRE have been top targets all along and never put in the work that the rest have.
Also Nike. That's the main reason I never figured he'd end up at KU.
I think KU is better with Doke but only if Self is willing to pull him in tough match-ups.
FarmerJayhawk said:
In other news, KU is out on Vernon Carey. Going to be Duke, MSU, UK, Miami, and UNC.
Unfortunate but not surprised at all.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Self watched Hurt this morning.
Almost a must get at this point.
I'll be watching this year even though USA is out. Starts up in June. Not sure if there are any other footy fans here, actually easily my #2 sport behind basketball.
Anyway I was watching some old games and I gotta say, any time someone complains about the refs the South Korea Italy game in 2002 is my new go to for showing what a fixed game really looks like. I actually root against Italy most of the time but wow that game was a complete travesty.
Complete badass. :(
Ultimately the WS win was great and important, but a shame they had to trade him off.
approxinfinity said:
@KUSTEVE Boogie made 2.2 threes pg this year. Davis .7 ... I agree they seem to playing better ball but I haven't watched them closely to have a good sense of it.
Holiday and Davis played better off each other in that Portland series than I've ever seen them do before.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Okongwu is almost certainly staying in California. His guy at UCLA just took another job at Cal, so they may get him. Not sure KU is that interested anyway. Lecque is an absolute stud. Love his game. He was originally a 2018 kid but went to 2019 about a year ago. He may come back to 2018, but probably not until late summer. I don't expect KU to really be involved either way. I think they should go after him if we miss on Romeo. Grimes is big enough to play the 3, and Jalen can play the 2. I think Tait is wrong on how big Jalen is too. He's nearly 6'4 now I believe. Isaiah is probably going to Duke. I like Kofi, but he's not really a need. Brown is a small ball 4 man at this stage, probably staying in the South. Hurt is the target there. Josh Green is legit, and KU has a good shot. Was pretty good at the Hoop Summit on the international team (he's Australian).
Yeah, not the best researched article. Didn't even mention Duke in the bit about Cole Anthony and he will probably end up there.
I would be stunned if Okongwu ends up anywhere besides UCLA.
Yeah zero chance at Wiseman, but like you said free to watch.
Agree on Green he is very good. Shame UK is getting involved but I'm not surprised.
Self watched JRE, Harvey, Jalen Suggs and Chandler Lawson today.
JAYHAWK214 said:
He will be back
Great first post. I like the cut of your jib.
ReggieKansas said:
@FarmerJayhawk but u said u think hes commiting 2 ku tuat doesnt make sense
He said a source told him that Self got a verbal. It's weighing that source, how much he trusts that source vs other info.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Also, the family may deny the meeting, but I heard this afternoon that Self and the family did make contact while Self was in the area. Another source told me it was to give a commitment.
:pray:
BeddieKU23 said:
Grimes mocking at #6 in next year's draft makes it seem unlikely he'll be a multi-year player. We'll see if he plays up to the lofty projections they are making for him.
He wants to be OAD. If he will be lottery he should absolutely go. Just plug in RJ Hampton for him. Boom.
Statmachine said:
Bill is clean or KU would be another OAD factory. Its really simple. Self has the resources to flip the switch and make KU another OAD playground but he has not. Miller sold his soul to the OAD devil and lost. As much as I cant stand Calipari he could be doing things the legal way? Duke maybe? The cold hard truth is that KU is just as strong a brand as any and has yet to land 3 in the top 10 like the other schools listed. I do not believe that Bill Self is involved at all! I can not say that for the other 2 schools I just listed. Yeah Pat, go f–k yourself.
Elijah Johnson walked around Lawrence with some FAT rolls. I mean, maybe they just appeared in his dorm, who knows...
Statmachine said:
Kcmatt7 said:
@Crimsonorblue22 If Bill really is clean, I don't think he cares what anyone is saying about him. Especially jealous little bitches.
Pre John Calipari UK was not an OAD factory. Pre Sean Miller Arizona was not an OAD factory. Duke is Duke and their coach has been there forever so he has either jumped on the train OR he has just been able to out recruit and land top recruits at a high rate without using dead presidents. It is well documented and speculated that Calipari is linked to WorldWide Wes and through connections he has been assisting UK with recruiting. http://www.fromthisseat.com/index.php/blog/19112-are-kentucky-s-john-calipari-and-william-worldwide-wes-wesley-cheating-the-system ↗ Now you have other schools that will hire a recruits family member to funnel a couple of guys in like the Porters. KU has used that totally legal loop hole in the past but there was MONEY involved there too (as far as someone was getting a pay raise)! It is pretty obvious that the majority of these OAD's attend a handful of schools. The OAD's are the only guys an agent or agency would take a 100k gamble on. I read somewhere that Vegas is where most of these money transfers take place. If an agent goes in and buys 100k worth of chips and places them in the hands of a top recruits handler and the handler cashes them in and claims them as winnings it is untraceable. Sounded legit? All I am saying is that IF Self wanted to purchase players then KU would also be an OAD factory. He would be landing 4-5 OAD's every year just like these other schools. If anyone should be worried it should be UK and possibly Duke. Just my opinion here guys!
Plenty of non-OADs get paid too. Angel Morris had a nice job for Doug Compton lol.
BeddieKU23 said:
Ryan seems to think if RJ joins 19 and picks KU Markese would open it back up. Not an earth shattering statement to make given RJ is a Top 10 player in whatever class he decides on but one of the more vocal KU supporters in recent memory simply might be over-recruited..
Yeah I hope we keep Markese. Take him and RJ, have Markese develop for a year before really playing. Provided KU has the room.
FarmerJayhawk said:
I think he’ll be back. He won’t get a combine invite and most seem to think he needs another year. But I get the allure of being a pro.
His wording certainly supports your take.
I lean towards him leaving.
Sounds like we are going to find out who the mystery player is.