MVC championship game tomorrow. The two good teams in that league for their season rubber match. Should be a fun watch. Now I'll just wait for Shocker jokes again...
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Might have been one of the best offensive games this team has played.
Pro-tip: avoid any KSU board that isn't goemaw.
Hey I've been predicting wins for awhile until this one. This felt like a play flat game.
@BeddieKU23 said:
Best win of the season!!!
Dunno about that but I like it. I also LOVE Forte being smothered at the end. :100:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said:
Josh Jackson had the quietest 17 and 9 ever tonight.
On 8-11 from the floor. Me gusta.
Great to see Carlton with another good game. Josh and Mason rocked out.
I was mildly wrong about this game.
Pretty good year.
Just lost to freaking Rutgers. Just when I thought he might save his job... The bell tolls for thee Mr. Groce.
Okie Lite wins in a laugher. 15+ pt win for the Pokes as KU bench gets extensive minutes.
@KUSTEVE said:
@chriz Just look at the way ESPN pimped Syracuse after they beat Dook. Every ESPN announcer declared Syracuse "in the tournament". The Orange have lost 4 out of their last 5, own a 17-13 record, and have a terrible record outside of the Carrier Dome....BUT...they're in. Sure enough, Lunardi has them as a 10 seed.
JOKE
What ESPN doesn't know could fill a library. Example: they mentioned that KU could clinch the outright Big12 title today...
I'm all for beating Cal heads up and Self has done it a bit lately. However the truth is important. You can't trust what ESPN and Rivals list for interest and offers. KU did not beat UK for Doke's services. UK saw him a couple times as a JR, he never visited and UK signed two post commitments before he announced. It was a UNC/FSU/KU decision.
lol
UK wasn't really in it for Doke. We did beat FSU (who brought him over) and Roy though. I totally spaced on Wiggs though, Cal wanted him bad.
Recently against UK: Oubre, Bragg and Vick. Can't recall if they offered Cheick or not.
Not gonna let myself get worked up about Zion. If he ends up in Lawrence for a year, then I'll have a party. Have we beat Duke head to head for a recruit in recent memory? Duke wants Zion big time.
@BeddieKU23 said:
I wonder if KU would have been interested had his grades been in order or whatever it is that has kept teams away. All the film I've seen of him looked pretty good, hes got great size for a stretch 4 and can really shoot the 3. I don't think he was an immediate contributor but we could have gone after much worse IMO. I have a feeling a few years from now he'll be playing KU and have a game against us where we ask ourselves why we never returned the interest..
Grades were probably part of it. He might even be a bigger risk than Preston (and with much less talent).
I was worried for a second that KU might get interested but once Self was scouring JUCOs, that fear subsided.
Andre Rafus to TCU provided they can get him to campus. Though it is TCU, so maybe they just get him there anyway and give him the old Jamari/Ben style academic red shirt.
Despite listing KU, KU never offered. However it's still a commitment for the B12, so I figured I'd post it.
@HighEliteMajor said:
I am not convinced of a vast conspiracy to screw the Big 12. Seemed to me that we have had many well paved paths that we've managed to screw up.
I would also say, generally, that the best players do not come for the hard streets of the inner city. That is, most of these kids are at prep schools and have already ventured away from their home towns. Different age right now.
Really, though, any efforts to explain catastrophic failures, or to make excuses for a long term epidemic is a losing proposition.
2011 comes to mind immediately. That is one that still really stings for me. Title was completely there for the taking. I firmly believe KU was the best team that year. C'est la vie.
Anybody but Virginia...
ISU running down the Hutch today. Things are heating up.
@BeddieKU23 said:
Self also watched De'Quon Lake last night. Lake visited Iowa St this week for their Senior Night.
He sure got around yesterday.
@BeddieKU23 said:
I hope we land him, high character kids don't grow on tree's. This team is losing a lot of leaders and experience. Who's going to lead the post guys night in and night out? I don't see any natural leaders on this team if Devonte leaves. Surprising KU was this late to the party, Shakur has been known for a while but maybe the timing will be just right to hopefully get him on the team.
Could be a really key piece for the team after next year.
KU will be going back out to see Juiston in game action. Soon.
@kjayhawks said:
Interesting to me that Self wants the kid from HCC with Doke, Bragg, Lightfoot and Coleby returning I'm not sure he gets a ton of minutes.
Not to mention probably Preston as well. However he's probably better than Coleby and Mitch. Mitch pretty clearly wasn't ready for post banging in the B12. It honestly wouldn't kill Mitch to take a RS next year (provided he is okay with it). From what I understand he is being potentially recruited to be the 4th post player most likely next year. In any case he is an interesting player that offers abilities that our other post players don't really have as much. He is a very good passer and ball handler. A nice Baylor zone killer in the high post.
Total minutes next year probably wouldn't be high though like you say. The year after though, the post looks to be likely pretty barren so it would be a nice situation to have a SR w/ a year in the program going into 2018-19.
He needed this win.
Doesn't appear to be up yet, but should be on this page eventually: http://jimrome.com/category/guests/ ↗
On the other hand he hasn't committed yet despite having good offers. Might have been waiting for a big time program. I can understand why they are mad though, it sucks getting punked on a recruitment if that ends up happening.
Pays tribute to his brother who was senselessly shot and killed after every made bucket. Would love to see Juiston end up at KU. Extremely high character.
ASU plays at Kansas on 12/10/17. Kansas will play in Tempe on 12/22/18.
Should be fun for Cunliffe when he returns to Tempe in 2018.
Sounds like a Bill Self dream. I found a couple twitter accounts that tweet about Hutch CC games. One tweet said a player for an opposing team was daring him to shoot wide open from 15 feet, so I'd guess his range is less than that.
@BeddieKU23 said:
Agreed!
I will add I think we've seen enough of how KU recruits lately that we will chase some guys we probably have no point in chasing (Zion etc) because they are elites of their positions etc. It seems like we could be possibly all over the place recruiting bigs besides maybe the one known in Williams. Will be interesting to see if they shadow Gordon at all. I don't know a tremendous amount about the 18 class outside the top kids we've mentioned already.
Sadly I agree.
I think we know Grimes and Dotson are priority targets (hell Dotson visited KU this year, his jr year) but outside of those two, I think it's a waiting game to see who KU is really in on.
Speaking of Norm I believe he is running point on 7 foot BEAST Moses Brown.
The thing about Doke is FSU essentially BROUGHT HIM OVER FROM AFRICA with the help of Nike iirc. So it was believed that he would show loyalty to if not FSU then at least Nike on some level. Getting him was pretty impressive, but of course Norm was the lead assistant on Doke. Never doubt Norm.
No doubt Cal is already working on spinning this. He wouldn't have been injured if he picked UK. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
KU also had no chance at Doke according to Ryan soooooooo. And I get it, things change and he is just passing on info. But that's the point, things change. KU can at the very least offer and position themselves to be involved.
I've heard though, that Self really likes athletic 6'7'' power forwards. Heard he will play them over 5 stars.... Just a rumour though. :smirk:
Self is going down to Hutch today. Guess we will find out how serious KU's interest is pretty quickly.
As usual Shay is clueless. Saw that post from Ryan as well. Also said Hamilton isn't leaving NC.
@BeddieKU23 said:
Hurt is a good one. The Big-10 will be tough to beat for him but at least KU has really put in the leg work early.
Well, we have done work in Minnesota before. :relaxed:
@BeddieKU23 said:
Interesting, they would be salty as well as Seton Hall and others that have been in on him longer. He's skilled, can score on the block and rebound. Small though, Jamari's size..
I honestly think it would be a bad decision for the kid. KU likely has 5 post players already on the roster, whereas ISU has a black hole void for post minutes.
Referring to Hurt?
Hurt dropped 47 tonight with KU watching. :+1:
I believe he has a pretty big in conference buy out. KSU likely isn't in a position to want to pay that, Bruce to not coach there and Underwood's salary.
Poster on the phog says KU has called Hutch CC about Shakar Juiston. Could you imagine the cyclone salt if we come in and swoop him away?
Jeez Missouri
Fun fact: we haven't lost to Duke since 2011.
Could loop that all day. Sooooo nasty.
No worries. It was frustrating to watch the old Self offense when it plodded and clogged.
An exact quote for you re Duval
"He's not going to Baylor. He's not going to Kansas either."
From that Duke writer.
Can't really disagree. I love the offense as it is currently constructed.
What I was trying to get at earlier is that at this point I feel Self is pretty good at letting the roster dictate the situation. If the roster ends up being Mystery non-elite PG/Newman/Garrett/Vick/Cunliffe as the guards and Bragg/Preston/Coleby/Doke and the 9 guys that get run, I bet we see 3 guards 2 posts the majority of next season. One of the two posts on the floor will likely be pretty skilled though in Preston or Bragg. This assume Bragg gets it together and improves in the off season.
That post sounds more negative than I meant I think. I just don't think Self going back to running some high low will hurt that much.
Anyway, some news: Jerrance will be checking in on Matt Hurt tonight. Good to see we are still recruiting him with some vigor.
It's not like high profile guards are lining up right now. A lot of misses in this class. The incoming players for the class as things stand are two transfers and a kid that was 100% to KU if KU wanted due to personal relationships (and to the credit of the staff they took him early). Looks to change in 18 and 19 (we will see) but I tend to believe KU will be generally fine recruiting as long as Self is here.