Bryson Tiller here with the team. Not full go yet to practice but will redshirt and get a headstart for next season
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Agree I hope they continue to push the pace. Playing slow doesn't work for this group imo. 3 guard starting lineup might be the answer on offense and may lead to improved defensive efforts as well. Moore was known as a good defender and could really help shore up our perimeter defense. Too early to tell but Moore could really be the chess piece this team needs to leap back forward towards its ceiling.
New conference foe tonight in Allen. Some familiar High School targets from the last class, an old, old target @wissox Adam Miller as well.
Shak Moore to get his 2nd straight start. Says he's still a bit sore after games but getting close to 100%. Might be the defensive upgrade this team needs going forward..
As @drgnslayr likes to point out, KU played with Tempo in the UCF game and Shak might have been a good reason for it.
Didn't imagine that Storr and Griffen would both be coming off the bench in conference play but here we are. Let's see if they continue to react positively.
We need to make sure we get a 2nd year from Flory. Hunt's NIL goes to him, whatever it takes. Pairing him with DP and whoever else next year could be scary. Those highlights from yesterday are a glimpse of his future. Sure, he can't really shoot outside 4 feet right now and KU's system is absolutely setup for a guy with his attributes to flourish. He's a plus defender, plus athleticism and finishes at the rim at an elite level so far (81.6%). I don't know how draftable he is right now, as is but I'm certainly paying attention now if he strings more of these kind of games together. The lightbulb has certainly come on for him and is fun to watch.
Without looking he probably is at this point. Still very disappointed how that one ended up. Was a big fan of him in HS, thought he was a big win for Self at the time and he became a good player at Houston. It's an example of finding the right fit I suppose. He wasn't good outside a few games here as a freshman and had a lot of PT to get past the freshman wall/issues but it didn't work out.
An historic one-off type game, that's crazy. I know this UCF team is better than they showed yesterday as I've watched them play a few times and have seen a much higher level of play from them. They just seemed shellshocked by the level of activity from KU which was a 360 from our previous game.
Next opponent Arizona St has two five-star freshman KU recruited to various degrees in Joson Sanon & Jayden Quaintance. Kenpom #57 team with #34 ranked defense so we'll see how we do against a top 40 defense. Their leading scorer is a 6'9 big who can shoot the 3 (38%) and loves to get to the FT line. Hopefully we bring some of the same juice as yesterday at home this time and make another statement.
UCF seems like a roller coaster team. Have wins over Kenpom #12 and #14 teams (Texas A&M & Texas Tech) including the Tech game on the road in their previous game and then they come home and get walloped by 51. At least from the jump KU came out throwing punches and they didn't have the same juice. UCF is #81 Kenpom so the metrics don't think too highly of them so not sure what to take from this win in the bigger picture. It was a great response from the West Virginia game. Self got their attention and I hope it was the turning point to seeing this level of play more often.
Wonder if Moore getting the start was matchup based, UCF runs a 3-guard lineup so matching that could have been what they thought was the best move. Perhaps also signaling a scheme change on offense given the struggles there? What doesn't make much sense is how he played 2 minutes in the previous game then gets his first start and most minutes of the season in this one. I would say he did fine, the 6 assists were a plus including the dime he dropped into Flory for a dunk, he also made a couple 3's late in the game to show off his shooting.
I want to see "more" from Moore since he is such an unknown still. I'm still picturing this aggressive driving guard that will give us an element we don't have who can put pressure on defenses and get to the line/finish/get Hunt/Flory/KJ easy baskets. I'm hoping that's what he can provide on that side of the ball while being a pesky defender on the perimeter to go with Harris.
Wow Bidunga is a monster
Well this is refreshing to watch
Self gave an update on Clemence that didn't sound good going forward. Mentioned his injury is not good and hasn't done anything in weeks, can't practice.
Mention this because playing both Flory Hunt at the same time means we have no bigs to sub. Yikes
@DCHawker
We'd get pasted by both of them currently
A few streaks were broken and I guess they were bound to be at some point..
West Virginia was 0-11 in Allen coming in, we've certainly had some epic comebacks against them at home to keep it going and a first-year coach got them over the hump. How fitting.
33-year streak of winning the conference opener was broken. This one stings given how poorly the team played. Shocking this team didn't get up for a conference opener at home. December was a bad month for this team.
Didn't feel like AJ played that much. I remember a missed corner open 3 and then did absolutely nothing else which is why he sat I guess... 15 minutes and zero stats besides 2 missed shots. That's usually not going to work for any coach and certainly not for Self. Got the start and that's the response so yeah, not a good look. Got called out in the post-game so I'd expect Sunday to see a more engaged player?
Yesterday and the two road games are just proof we need to temper expectations way back from what we've become spoiled with under Self. This group has taken a step back even from last years struggles. The offense doesn't look like it can compete, guys don't make shots they should and the way we generate offense is predictable and very easy to scheme against.
We lost to a team at home that was down 2 key starters. Yikes
I'm not sure a team has been further away from the standard then this group looks.
Zeke and Flory were real bright spots. We don't run enough offense through Zeke and Flory showed that he really can impact the game when he's on. Most impressive was watching him defend on the perimeter at that size, he's got a chance to be special.
Ball screen defense was exposed in a bad way. I can't understand why they think hunter 30 feet from the basket is a good option. There's tons of film proving otherwise. Drop coverage seems like something to explore.
Yesterday was about as bad as I've ever seen at home win/lose. Not good. Maybe in February this group will figure it out.
This Team will be lucky to make the tournament
We deserve this badly
That's the hunter we know at the line
A well deserved loss for the players and the coach
This game is on self.. same thing happens every time on defense and zero adjustments
If that's the shot you get out of a timeout it's time to call it quits
Griffen is trying to become the new Timberlake for missing the most wide open shots award
Look Self you gotta make a change at pg wtf
West Virginia with excellent defense from the announcers. All i saw was KU Bricking open shots
Shame on me for being excited for a game after a week.
I honestly can't remember the last time we played this poor at home. This is up there in the Self era
Harris can sit
Hard to believe what I've watched this half. I just don't understand it
Not even worth it
Another game unprepared.. I dont get it
This offense is pathetic
Bidunga not getting that board on that last possession is very frustrating. Did very little to win that battle
Maybe they will wake up
Starters ain't it today
Wow
Keep on brickin
Perfect shot adams
Yeah ugly
Vegas has this at -13.5..
Ol friend Yesufu on WV
@BShark said in West Virginia- a game finally:
Rumblings: AJ Storr starts in this game.
Interesting.
That sucks for him and the team. Good player, have followed him a bit at his previous spot. That's huge for this matchup then because all their big wins were with him
Anytime there is a week plus gap in games it just throws everything out of whack. I dont know about everyone else but I'm ready for this lull to end and to see what Self has been cooking up with all the practice time. This team has had a good couple weeks of practice to figure some things out. Against Brown it felt like that was a bit of improvement from NC St which was better then the previous week. I believe we are seeing slow growth.
West Virginia has been a surprise. Have a win against Gonzaga. A familiar name is leading them and will be out for blood against us in Small who leads them in scoring at 20 a game. We almost landed him at various times in the portal this past offseason but it didn't happen and of course he ends up at a conference foe. Seems to happen more often then not. Their perhaps best player Tucker Devries has been injured and not sure of his status for the game but if he's out then that's a huge boost. He is the protypical bad matchup for KU as he can really shoot it. Anyone know if Devries is out??
From what I've seen they play 4/5 out with Hansberry the lone big, an athletic big who can shoot from the perimeter as well. He gives up tons of size to Hunt but would be a good matchup for KJ to find his inner Cooper Flagg motivation and lock him down. Small is going to get his it looks by the way he's improved but Hansberry seems like the guy they need to limit otherwise. Glad this one is at home because I think this game is going to be very challenging for us to score. 27th ranked D via Kenpom isn't imposing but we have tanked against teams throwing multiple different defensive looks like zone and ball pressure and that's what this West Virginia team does well so far. Good thing we had a week to prepare.
Would love to see the Zeke Mayo hot streak continue. He's been our best player the last two games and he's our difference maker when he's on.
More minutes for Shak Moore. Having that backup for Harris is beyond vital and it sounds like he's finally getting there to be that guy. He really could be the key to the season as listening to Self talk about certain roles getting defined with Moore healthy seems like a good thing for the team overall.
When will the light bulb come on for Storr. I gather Self really wants him to be in the starting lineup but he just hasn't put it together.. he would also elevate this team's ceiling if he started to figure it out.
Looking forward to this marathon conference season
Ha yeah it feels brutal waiting for Tuesday
Wouldn't be the first time Wisconsin has been caught up in holding transfers but whatever in the wild wild west we have currently nothing surprises me anymore
Yeah Xavier Lucas.. rumored that his destination was already Miami. Some scuttle that FSU has also pushed in on an NIL deal but they are not serious with NIL like Miami is.
Bad look for the school
Just convince him everyone is Cooper Flagg. He was great that game
Zach has a groin injury and sounds like it will hold him out a while