Maybe. Self clearly loves the kid. He just needs to stay and really drill confidence in his game
BeddieKU23
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
Och has no confidence though!
Not trying to bag on him either his defense 98% of the time is great but he is so far away offensively. I guess it stems from him not being the man in high school until Sr yr. He absolutely needs to stick around and find a shooting coach
Big response
Doke the savior
Ochai is terrible
Doke cant make free throws so it's a strategy he can use all game
That's a foul
Garrett missed moss for a 3
Agbaji should not be playing
If that's our offense. Please Self let someone else coach today
Cancel Garrett today
Woodrow said:
Iām not sure that Ochai should even be getting minutes. He brings nothing to this team right now.
And blew that defense to allow the open 3
Agbaji can find the bus
My god we suck
Dotson should draw a 1 and 1 it would be smart
Cancel this lineup
This offense really is offensive
Not going to end wel
More shit
DCHawker said:
I thought UT had one of the slower tempos in the country and struggles to score???
They do
Much needed timeout the offense looks like shit
What kind of f pass is that
Guys need to take shots. So timid
Damn
No shots yet. He is going to have to take a drive or get him a lob to get him flowing
We will take it.
Yup some nice plays
As usual OSU SUCKS
BShark said:
Shut up Fran
Diarrhea of the mouth
approxinfinity said:
Good start for Dave.
Havent said that in a month
Nice play doke
That shot is never going in so much indecision
Turnover already
This game is never ending I hate the acc
osu back up 1
Texas couldn't get the coach for KU right in the program.
Take a guess who they put
Gameday is coming to Lawrence next Saturday.
Didnt last Baylor is winning
Dotson is starting
They said first 3 minutes of the game. Not sure if mentioned on what play
Devonte is 2nd in 3's made (Harden 1st)
Devonte is 2nd in total assists (Lebron 1st)
If he's not an ALL-STAR they should cancel said game
benshawks08 said:
@BeddieKU23 I just don't think Self will go to a press. I'm trying to remember the last time I saw KU run any real press other than token full court man to man. What is a trap? I don't seem to remember seeing one! Is it that he hates the press being broken for an easy basket so much that he can't make himself do it? If that were the case though, wouldn't we score easier baskets against teams that press us (we DON'T)?
Oh I'm sure we'll never see a press unless we are losing helplessly and trying to get back in the game. It was just an idea that I've seen two teams (Duke/Nova) use this year to create havoc and turnovers/easy baskets and threw out for discussion sake. We have the personnel to run a trap or press perfectly. We have pesky guards/wings with length and a 7 foot eraser at the rim on the backend to deter easy baskets. KU's 2pt defense this season has absolutely been positively impacted by his improvement on defense this season. OU didn't even look at the hoop if he was within reaching distance. But it was a pipedream thought I think.
I have zero rebuttable for how the conference has performed in March. We could go on (and on) about why its been that way. At this point maybe its just a mindset thing, a coaching thing, a conference thing, whatever the case results have been well below average. There are several KU teams (that should have made the F4) that are not on the short list you gave. It pains me to even think about the Michigan year or the Villanova year and almost every season we fall short of expectations.
Comparing this offense to history; other KU teams & nationally it falls well short. No rebuttable there. Scoring has been on a downtrend the past month for this current squad especially against good teams. The jig is out (tape, scouting report).
The Dayton game seems to be either an outlier or what this team is capable of in a tournament setting. We did clean 90 (in OT) against a good team many think is F4 capable while being barraged with 3's. Our best players played their best and the supporting cast did their job.
Would love to see this team shoot more 3's- that goes hand in hand with playing 4/1 at least 90% of the game. The stats say turnovers go down, shooting goes up and efficiency is at its peak for this roster. We will give up some rebounding and some defensive efficiency but maybe the improvement from 4 guards gives this team a wider margin for error then it currently looks to have. Great defense, average offense (below for Self historically).
On more possessions- its actually KU's defense limiting more opportunities at least from how I'm seeing the data. As wild as that sounds, KU is actually above average in time of possession on offense (getting shots up) but the defense is actually slowing games down because teams are having a hard time getting good shots. Maybe this team would be perfect to throw in the occasional half court press (with its length) after made baskets. I see Duke/Nova do this with success in creating turnovers/easy baskets. Just spit balling an idea how to create more possessions that could be positive over time.
The downside to more possessions at least from how this roster is constructed is the heavy minutes being played by our perimeter trio of Dotson/Garrett/Agbaji. Dotson- bum hip, Garrett- bum ankles, Agbaji- back from the OU game all pumping in heavy minutes and now getting injured along the way. Also as improved as Doke's conditioning is this season you still see him getting visibly tired in games. Self went to a set heavy 2nd half as his guys got tired against OU with only 8 bodies to use. I don't know if Self has the personnel to just adjust much on that end. I did like Moss getting up double digit 3's in the last game. He has the nicest looking shot on the team so that should continue to be an emphasis. Thoughts?
Yeah I have no idea what Jossell ends up doing here, he looks a likely red-shirt candidate next season. Just pointing out he can shoot it and its a big reason he'll be here next season
Well Jones did end up at Stanford so I think you have to take into account what role Academics played into him ending up there. As far his recruitment goes, I don't remember KU ever sniffing at him.
He did address shooting in last years class with Braun/Wilson.
2020, Bryce Thompson says Hello. Jossell is known as a shooter. Muscadin is a project with range. Grant-Foster has a functional perimeter game.
I do agree though, shooting should absolutely be a big priority with each recruit going forward.
Tech did make the Finals last year.
12 offense (13th today) is a collection of many things as I'm sure you know. KU's strong 2pt FG% (9th in the country), Top 100 3pt FG% (due to low volume) and slow tempo due to the well above average defense is keeping the offense statistically in the top tier of College Basketball. It's not just Kenpom that has KU's offense in the top tier there are several other outlets saying the same..
Have you watched other teams offenses? How do they compare to KU's? KU Fans obviously have a keener eye for picking out the weaknesses on our own team.
Side note: I'm also surprised this offense is rated that highly given what we see on a nightly basis. I do try and watch a lot of other teams (especially the Top 20 or so) and there just isn't a lot of gifted offensive teams out there this season.
Gonzaga seems to have the most firepower as a team (Dayton is up there too). I have never seen offense as a whole look so average. The trickle down effect of talent leaving early for the draft, the craziness of the transfer portal decimating chemistry/team building and the 3 pt line being extended have made offense this season hard to watch. Adjustments will be made as they always are.
If he's not someone like Braun can start to push him.
I'd hate to see Dotson actually "struggling".