Good for him. I'm sure he'll love it there
BeddieKU23
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Great story and comparison.
We have known Bill Self long enough to know what he expects from his guards. He's tough on them and we wouldn't expect anything less. I wonder if the OAD type wouldn't be able to handle his "tough love". I'd love to see a top PG come here and accept that challenge.
I also think, us fans, want stability when gushing about our roster, especially the PG position. I know that myself, I think the PG position has become even more important with how the game is evolving. I'm not sure I want to be "fishing" every spring/summer for the biggest catch at that position. We've had far too many successful PG's who've stayed 4 years to think the OAD train would be best for Self's system. There is no perfect model but when Self and his PG are on the same page life is easier. Frank made coaching a tad easier because he truly understood what Bill wanted from him. Whether a OAD type freshman can do the same is debatable, we've yet to reel in the types to find out at the position.
He could very well end up at any of his choices. If staying close to home is what he wants then if he picked Maryland or Florida that probably ends up being a big factor in his decision. He's never said distance was an issue and they have consistently said relationships were key which I think KU/Florida have done the best job in doing. But the recent talk of Arizona and how they have slime'd into this makes me believe he's looking at them hard and if he takes a visit with his family I'm worried he'll leave there committing. Arizona is just recruiting on a different level then KU right now and this wouldn't be the first time they have swooped in late to grab someone KU has invested a bunch of time on.
Quinerly is very good and I've seen some chatter that KU may get an official from him as well. These camp settings can be misleading but I think Dotson showed some things that stood out against his fellow high ranked opponent and overall over the week. He is crafty with the ball and can get to the lane and draw fouls in the manner that Frank Mason was able to consistently in his career. When he shoots the ball consistently from the perimeter he's every part of a Top 30 player. Rankings sometimes don't accurately get the full picture because Rankings are also meant to project not just for the College level but also the future. With Dotson I think you can see he'll be a very good College Guard but might not be a first round type for the NBA so I think that limits how high he can be ranked. Also, I think he's closer to reaching his potential then some other guards in this class. If KU lands him I expect he'd compete for a starting spot as a freshman because I think he's been well coached and has the game that can immediately impact an elite team.
I think the PG class in 2018 is particularly strong this season. There are easily a dozen high level guards that can play on/off the ball and most of them project to play at least a year in College which is going to be exciting to see.
That was a good decision
Kcmatt7 said:
@BeddieKU23 Matt sucks and is a bit of an asshat. Not a surprise to me he can't get any good info and clearly doesn't have a good source deep enough inside the program to hear any chatter.
He can't even take criticism on 247 without getting all upset. Not worth the money at this point. I'll probably drop my subscription soon unless they get someone else to partner with Matt.
I use mine for football, being a huge fan of Florida St. Its a 24/7 job for those guys, they are constantly updating fans on recruiting, the team etc so the money is well spent in that regard. It's really pathetic that KU with a Top 5 program doesn't have recruiting people that are connected to AAU and the team. And with how connected Duke's guys are, odds are they are recruiting the same guys so I find myself lurking (while half the time laughing at how crazy their fans are about landing every top player in the class). I suppose the same can be said about our fans but it is funny listening to others views.
I can't believe Matt has a job after the Trae Young recruitment. He literally lied to everyone for over a week. It was clear as day. They need to move on from him and let someone else get involved
mayjay said:
@BeddieKU23 I am having a senior moment: has a presumed OAD point guard won an NCAA title? If not, could this be why HCBS has seemingly eschewed some opportunities in elite PG recruits by taking Moore?
I think Self values experience with the PG position. When you get OAD you get what roughly 8 months of stability? He's certainly tried to get OAD talent at the PG position but when you don't have the reputation kids look elsewhere. I think him featuring the perimeter has helped us recruit into this class and beyond. We'll see what we get out of it. Grimes would be a homerun grab from a player who can play on/off the ball in College and transition to the modern big NBA PG.
Rarely has he had to start a freshman as PG so either he recruits to get a guy to develop behind someone or he'll take a current option and give them a gut check and say learn to play PG for me. I think he's done that consistently in the last 10 years or so and for the most part has had great success.
You know what's sad?
When you have to go to the Duke page to get any KU recruiting updates!
This cannot be the best 247 can get to do KU recruiting.
jayballer54 said:
@BeddieKU23 I Think Dotson WAS sold on KU for sure at one point. Could be like you say after Moore committed had an influence, as seems about that time we started losing ground. As far as Arizona and him I think Jahvon I believe anyone who Arizona REALLY wants, which still leaves Dotson BUT having said that I do believe more likely then not we have lost him - -can't really say to who my latest feeling is chances are good he ends up in Maryland.
Then like you say it comes down to who is the more talented. - -Me I've always liked Dotson from day one, but doesn't necessarily mean he is better then Grimes. Actually feels Grimes is the better of the two - -Dotson was just my pick, don't think you can go wrong with either that's for sure. Sooo my landing spots are - - - -Quinerly to Arizona, - -- -Dotson to Maryland - - -And we land grimes. Watch that be just the complete opposite when it happens lol, that's why I'm not in the recruiting business lol. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I think Maryland is 4th in Dotson's recruitment even though his AAU teammate Wiggins and friend Smith is signed to them. They have gotten into this late with Arizona and I think he wants to end up at a bigger school then Maryland. Maryland had some buzz for a few years but that has fallen off with kids going to the draft. Florida is clearly a program back on the rise and using their most recent tournament run as momentum on the recruiting trail.
I think Florida has done just as good building a relationship with him and they are closer to home then KU/Zona would be and looking over their roster they have a clear need for an elite point guard.
I think this is a KU/Zona/Florida battle. If Grimes and Quinerly both decide before Dotson, look for him to be a Gator.
I'm worried that Dotson's talk of visiting Arizona will end his recruitment as I'm sure Miller was aware that Dotson outplayed Quinerly (who has already visited Arizona and could also visit KU in the fall). If that has any impact on how much they press for Dotson we've all seen the pipe-dream Sean Miller is selling lately and that kind of momentum on the recruiting trail can be infectious to kids. I'd hope Dotson takes all his officials and KU presses for either his 1st or last visit.
I've been pretty adamant that taking Charlie Moore would have its drawbacks to recruiting the PG position. We looked positioned to land multiple elite guard options before we took Charlie and with how kids look for the school that will offer them immediate playing time with little competition its unlikely that KU is going to convince Grimes and Dotson that playing with Charlie Moore is the best option for them.
If we did somehow land both I'd give major props to Bill Self for effectively convincing them that would work despite what's changed, it would be how Duke/Kentucky and now how Arizona are recruiting kids without any concern of depth chart. I don't think KU has been on that level in recent recruiting cycles especially hearing from recruits how they view KU's depth chart as a deciding factor in their decision and overall the schools KU has been losing recruits to lately. Josh Jackson was one recent outlier but he's was the #1 player and every coach in America is opening the red sea for that kind of talent.
I think Grimes is the better talent now but its unlikely he will be in College long enough to make the impact Dotson could make on a program. I think Dotson is that Point Guard a team builds around for 3-4 years but has limited upside for the NBA.
For KU its who pairs better with Moore and the wings we'll likely have back. When Grimes plays like he did this past week he's every part of the elite player he's been touted to be and I think that separates himself from Dotson. They are different players and there are advantages to both.
jayballer54 said:
@BeddieKU23 If I'm not mistaking isn't the Perry kid the kid that de-committed from Arkansas? - -Stating he wanted to closer to home to his sick father?
If this is the kid I was thinking of then I'm not surprised it didn't take him long at all. - -They listed the schools that was in on him Before he committed to Arkansas I think it was Georgia, Mississippi St & another. - -I hadn't really given him much of any kind of thought of all about considering us. - - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Yeah, he did mention KU as one of the schools that first contacted him after he went public. Other than that he did say he de-committed for his father but then also said he rushed his decision first time around so if you can believe anything its just that the mind of these kids changes with the breeze of the wind.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BeddieKU23 think Giles will ever pan out?
Tough call. For the hype he had out of HS pre-injury he wasn't very good at Duke and for him to land as highly as he did was a risk/reward situation.
Scouts seemed to be pleased with him during the draft process and his knee's were not red flagged during medical so that helps him. If he is able to continue to get over the injuries mentally and physically there is reason to think he can carve out a solid career. I always have concerns when an injury is the elephant in the room (like Embiid).
Probably a few years away from knowing where his career is headed. He didn't land in a good spot for developing talent..
Well that didn't take long, Reggie Perry is off the board to Miss St. Ben Howland sells a pipedream again. 2 days after saying he wanted to take his time this around with his recruiting he's off the board again. The mind of these kids is LOL
The major question I have in this George Hill deal is how motivated is he going to be if he's here to groom Fox and to some extent Mason?
This looks like a classic take the big money, play some basketball and be on the lookout for your next destination because I think both sides know the Kings are not paying Hill to be their star player of the future.
This is a bad deal for Sacremento and a great deal for Hill.
The Kings are not going to be good but they have invested heavy in young talent (Cauley-Stein, Labissiere, Giles, Malachi Richardson and established College Players like Hield, Jackson and Frank.
BShark said:
Fuggin Arizona. Just coming in swiping kids. Hopefully they get Quinerly....
They are now the West Coast version of Kentucky.
It's clear they have passed KU in the pecking order for getting recruits. Unless UCLA and Oregon keep up with the recruits there really is no competition for them for West Kids etc. KU isn't landing Cali talent consistently but we keep trying from time to time so its not like KU is threatening them for people in their backyard
From Dotson's interview it seems Arizona is going to take one of Quinerly and Dotson.. They want to run the 2 PG offense and he seems to be interested in that.
While Dotson isn't getting the national love or attention from KU fans that some get losing on him will sting because KU has recruited him as long as anyone. I think KU hurt themselves with Dotson after taking Charlie Moore IMO. The message was come here and run point from day-1. He could still run point but with Moore.. The same message is more or less being put on Grimes. If the staff continues to show Grimes as the #1 target then we might lose Dotson to Zona or Florida/Maryland.
I've been thinking this could be a "who will commit first type deal" and whoever holds out could look elsewhere.
So then the question I have is who's better and more important if the likely situation is KU only signs 1 of Grimes/Dotson?
Dotson is likely a multi year starter and you can run with a Moore/Dotson combo for years.
Grimes could be a OAD or 2 and Done which would put recruiting his position in 2019 (where KU has multiple in's back on the priority).
Much better this summer than last. Setting himself up for a big senior year.
dylans said:
No more scheduling all the hard games at home or on neutral courts to manipulate the RPI to our favor. No more taking advantage of the best home court advantage in sports to artificially inflate KU's seed. Maybe KU will play more to their seed if seeded properly. Maybe KU will become a better team by being forced to play higher quality opponents on the road. Or maybe nothing will change.
Every team does it to an extent. I really don't get the criticism. KU has consistently scheduled a non-conference slate that is among the best in the nation.
Home games generate revenue. Playing at the Sprint Center generates revenue.
Going on the road does what? Maybe a recruiting angle or getting your team ready for the Big-12 road schedule.
I don't believe this change will have any effect on KU's seeding. It will effect Power 5 teams that don't like to leave their state in non-conference play like notorious offender Syracuse or Big-12 foe TCU. This may in turn benefit smaller schools that have to consistently go on the road to get victories. A recent example would be Monmouth. This new criteria might separate them in March from the underachieving Power 5 teams that get to pad their RPI in the last month of the season.
KU has always scheduled and done well on the road and I don't expect that will change as long as Bill Self is coach
bskeet said:
Agree.
Ironically, this is one place where the Big12 (with 10 teams) actually helps KU.
Our home-and-home in-conference schedule means we play every B12 opponent on their floor, unlike the other mega-conferences.
Great point!
Caught some of Wayne's game yesterday in the semi's against the Blazers. Wasn't his best of the summer. His team fell apart after going up 16 late in the 2nd qtr. Glad overall he had a great showing at Summer League which he can use as momentum for a spot in the Grizzlies rotation. I'm impressed at how hard he's worked to overcome not being drafted.
What's interesting is this package deal crap Quickley and Williamson are all of a sudden talking about this past weekend. Obviously KU would love both of them and likely KU will land neither of them.
If Quickley was visiting KU, Miami and not UK and wasn't saying UK was the favorite I'm sure we'd be sitting here feeling pretty good about our chances (like we do with Grimes for example).
Hopefully the staff did a good enough job this week with its targets.
I feel they did well catching all of Grimes games and making it known he is priority #1 at guard.
They dropped the ball on Carey after day 1 (at least from what he said and noticed). Roberts was at some of his other games but it looks like Day-2 is where KU kind of missed out when his other potential landing spots were right there.
Dotson was tracked all week and played really well. He outplayed Quinerly on Thursday. Arizona remains a real thorn in the side. He wants to visit them soon and the way he's talking about them makes it seem KU is going to lose on him. Florida and Maryland are also involved but it seems like KU has lost its edge to Arizona yet again
I don't know how that works but if your the staff and one of the top point guards wants to visit I imagine its a no brainer to let him visit.
We see it as a waste and Self see's it as an opportunity..
Anything can happen, even as unlikely as it is with what he's said about Kentucky being his favorite.
I'm sure Quickley won't be the only kid to visit this fall where its just a free trip
Quickley sets his official to Kansas for 9-1 to 9-3.
He has visits to Miami and then Kentucky where he Will commit to Calipari after.
Really good. Big guard at 6'4 who can both run the offense and play off the ball. Not the crazy elite athlete like Wiggins or Jackson, I would say comparable to Wayne Selden.
He seems like a good kid and has a good motor on the court which I think would help him become a starter as a freshman. He's one of the top 3 guards in the class IMO
I'd like to believe we are getting Grimes but I just can't put much faith in these kids.
From what we know It looks like KU has a great chance with him and we just need to get him on campus
Grimes dropped 41 last night, he looked great. Self was there and he mentioned he's excited to get on the hawks campus for a visit
Perry said he decommitted to be closer to home, his dad is sick?
Until we know how all the pieces are going to fit and what the rotation looks like this is hardly a better team then the 08-09 teams. There is tremendous upside for this team, more then last years squad but we need everything to go perfectly for it to happen. The most important part of this years team is keeping its big men healthy. Every season in recent memory has been derailed by post injuries/eligibility issues.
jayballer54 said:
Well just to follow up with this thread I started, just read on Williams, HA he says he received a call from Coach K about a month ago and I quote. - - " Williams says getting a call from Coach K off his cell was like talking to GOD " - - -Being able to talk to the " Best Coach In the World " - - -to that I say HUH - - is this another waste of time? - - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Playing the recruiting game well.
Duke insiders are now saying they don't think Williams is an option for Duke. Duke has a bunch of people getting interviews and talking with people around Peach Jam and they are not talking confidently about landing him. A few have even sited the "other stuff" in recruiting as I mentioned Emmitt has a handler controlling his fate.
At least the staff has been active after Emmitt Williams and Moses Brown which are 2 more logical targets.
For example I believe Self watched Jalen Carey yesterday morning who had a monster game and then played again later and Self wasn't there meanwhile Syracuse, Uconn, Rutgers and Seton Hall were all front and center. All the local schools that are pursuing him. If you want to get a kid away from the East Coast you gotta keep on him. If he missed Carey's game to watch Bagley I would be mad. Can't confirm but that would be a perfect example of wasted recruiting.
Bagley's deal is probably just a rumor but who knows with that kid.
Hall plays for Mokan, he's played well this week but we all know the growing Mokan curse we have going on.
Thompson hit a bunch of 3's in front of Self. Bet we keep on him if he continues to progress.
Agree on Wiseman. Interesting enough he said he'd visit this summer..
Wayne had 33 points against the Suns. Josh had 13 and 8.
Zion plans to take an official visit to KU.
James Wiseman a top 10 2019 post will visit KU and Kentucky he said yesterday.
There is also chatter Bagley could move into 2017 and sign with USC.. He will visit Duke after Peach Jam and then visit Arizona and USC and see where it goes from there. No Mention of KU even though Self has been at all his games.. Perfect example of wasting your time.
Staff movements yesterday:
Self watched Bryce Thompson a 2020 prospect. His father played for Self at Tulsa.
Self watched Moses Brown a top 10 2018 7 footer, Emmitt Williams again who had a monster game and Bagley.
Kurtis watched 2019 SF Malik Hall who unofficial visited in June.
Assistants have tracked Jalen Johnson a top 20 2020 kid at UA event
mayjay said:
If Zion is an adidas player who attends adidas camps, then if he goes to Duke how does that fit into the oft-cited-but-unproven shoe-company-is-destiny theory?
Good question. I think once you get to the status of Zion its less about the shoe although I'm sure Adidas is probably going to try and push him to an Adidas school if they have any control.
I'm unfamiliar who's the primary contact in his recruitment (dad?) so that can always make a difference as well. They have been pretty tight lipped since the early spring..
Notice almost all of the schools that Zion is considering are Nike (Duke, UK, UNC, Clemson). KU is the only Adidas school recruiting him and South Carolina is UA. So unless KU lands him at this point it seems shoe affiliation won't be a major factor for this prospect
Would love to land Emmitt Williams, he's one of the top 5 players in the class in my opinion.
If he was 6'9-6'10 with his elite athletic ability, character and versatility he would probably be in the top 3 and pushing for #1. But he's 6'7 and is going to be a bit undersized going forward so he's probably ranked where he should be.
He more than makes up for his size by being an explosive leaper and he plays with a great motor and mentality to the game. He reminds me of a cross between Jordan Bell and Robert Williams (Soph at Texas A&M that turned down the draft this yr). He has nice touch and can shoot the 3 rather well as he's shown all spring.
As far as his recruitment goes a few things stand out. He's got a handler, he's a Nike kid, and he probably will be a spring signee.
What does that mean for KU? A lot. The handler that is involved with Williams was also involved with Duval going to Duke. And now Duke is recruiting Williams and was front and center for his game (while also there for Bagley). Duke insiders seem fairly confident that if they press for Williams they could get him. They might look to him after missing on Cole Swider and if Zion Williamson doesn't commit to Duke. With Carter likely being a OAD Duke will have a starting spot for him, something KU doesn't have.
Which brings me back to KU's situation in the post. Right now KU has Preston and Lightfoot at the 4. Lawson in the waiting (although he can also play the 5 with his length) if KU wanted to play smaller. Even if Preston leaves Williams is competing with a possible All-American and developing talent in Lightfoot for a starting spot. I think its unrealistic to expect Williams is going to come to KU with players standing in his way.
I love how Matt Scott puts in CB's but then never explains the information he might have received about the player. Meanwhile the Duke board lets out every piece of information they get to their paying fans.
We'll see how this plays out, if he waits until the Spring maybe KU gets lucky. He's going to be an awesome talent for whatever school lands him
Interestingly Matt put in a CB for Emmitt Williams to KU after that game. And par for the course didn't explain why to any of his paying followers.
BShark said:
Thanks @BeddieKU23 I don't remember reading that from Grimes. But I was awol for a bit due to being really busy.
And yep I like Carey. I'll be paying close attention to updates on who KU is watching.
Self watched Jalen Carey last night. Looks like that settles our question there
After that watched Bagley vs Emmitt Williams with Kurtis
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
So looks like Self and the staff will be rotating in and out of the 3 major AAU tournaments that start this week. Peach Jam, UA & Adidas as well as Peach State for Ayo.
Nike EYBL Peach Jam - starts on Wednesday. Some of the KU targets EYBL has - Emmitt Williams, Bagley, Bol, Louis King, Jalen Carey and more.
Ayo will be playing in the tourney for the teams that didn't make Peach Jam
Under Armour is in the ATL - Moses Brown, Naz Reid and more
Adidas -Zion, Langford, Quickley, Grimes, Devon Dotson, Jordan Brown to name some.
Looks like the staff should predominately be at Adidas if I were them. See Ayo and some of Peach Jam as well. I'm sure it will be the opposite..
Extremely busy time now. I'd love to see a couple fall or earlier commitments for KU. Hell just one even, get Grimes signed.
I get the feeling Grimes might be one to hold out til spring.
I'd be pressing Dotson/Carey for fall. Carey just visited Syracuse with his family which is never a good thing for everyone else..
Ugh, I hope not.
And damn, I hope the staff isn't trying to slow roll Carey.
I don't think they are slow rolling Carey but if they are we know we won't land him. He's visited schools in his area (Rutgers, Syracuse, Uconn, Seton Hall). He said he'd have to use an official to make it to Kansas which from what he said earlier this summer would happen.
I don't know if he's brought his family on any other trips but Syracuse has turned up the heat on him and view him as one of their major guard targets. I'm just connecting the dots that if he was to commit this summer before official visits happened Syracuse could be the team.
I see he moved up Rivals and 247's rankings which we've said all along would happen.
Hopefully the staff is watching his games at Peach Jam. That will tell us quick.
As far as Grimes, he said this last month in June.
Maybe I'll cut it down to three or four schools before the start of my senior year and then look to take official visits," said Grimes. "I'm not sure when I'll decide yet, maybe in the winter between signing periods because I don't want to rush it."
I'd love to know who he think's #5 and #6 are. If they are Preston/Doke and not Vick then we should see the staff following some of the elite bigs pretty closely.
If Barrett holds out til spring which is likely that's KU's best chance.
The roster situation will have to open up to entice him if he's all about that. We did land Jackson when we had other wings so its not impossible. But if we still have Vick, Cunliffe, Lawson & Garrett as wings on the roster its going to be a tough sell. After what he did at U19 the bidding war went up a notch
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
So looks like Self and the staff will be rotating in and out of the 3 major AAU tournaments that start this week. Peach Jam, UA & Adidas as well as Peach State for Ayo.
Nike EYBL Peach Jam - starts on Wednesday. Some of the KU targets EYBL has - Emmitt Williams, Bagley, Bol, Louis King, Jalen Carey and more.
Ayo will be playing in the tourney for the teams that didn't make Peach Jam
Under Armour is in the ATL - Moses Brown, Naz Reid and more
Adidas -Zion, Langford, Quickley, Grimes, Devon Dotson, Jordan Brown to name some.
Looks like the staff should predominately be at Adidas if I were them. See Ayo and some of Peach Jam as well. I'm sure it will be the opposite..
Extremely busy time now. I'd love to see a couple fall or earlier commitments for KU. Hell just one even, get Grimes signed.
I get the feeling Grimes might be one to hold out til spring.
I'd be pressing Dotson/Carey for fall. Carey just visited Syracuse with his family which is never a good thing for everyone else..
A bit of luck I think after Ayton choose Arizona. Preston jumped to KU pretty much after that. Recruiting him for a long time payed off
I thought about making the comparison to Diallo but what's the point, the NCAA doesn't do anything consistent with these cases of benefits.
It's good for Texas that his situation is not in limbo headed towards the season like Diallo's which-hunt was. For that I give the NCAA credit for not putting this kids immediate future on eggshells
NCAA cleared him already. I guess they didn't believe the bat**** crazy brother
Your absolutely right they sign a deal. If I'm wrong please correct me but I have the understanding that athletic scholarships are not 4 year deals, they are 1 year deals that are either renewed or not every year?
The Cameron Johnson issue I brought up was unique to the graduate transfer phenomena. He has 2 years of athletic eligibility left with a College degree which is rare for a grad transfer. He also wanted to transfer within conference. Usually for a player to do this they would lose a years worth of eligibility as well as sitting the upcoming year (if it's allowed at all).
Pitt tried to levy the same restriction to him without having the right to do so, remember the transfer rules are NCAA rules and in this case that didn't apply to Johnson as a graduate transfer. Pitt tried to argue it was an athletic department policy. So who's right? The NCAA rules or the University trying to enforce an athletic department policy in an attempt to keep him from transferring within conference without restriction?
Jackson had his best game last night. 20 pts 6 boards, 2 ast, 1 blk including 2-4 from 3 which had been a major stuggle for him in the first 2 games.
Diallo had 9 pts 8 boards last night as well.
So far:
Jackson - 17.7 pts, 7.7 boards, 2 ast, 1 stl per game. About what he averaged in College.
Mason- 11.3 pts, 4 boards, 3 ast. Big bounce back game last night.
Diallo- 19.7 pts, 9.3 boards, 1.7 blks. Having a big summer.
Selden- 24.5 pts, 4 boards, 3 ast, 3 stls. Wayne has looked great and definitely taking advantage of his new contract
Definitely was a cop out injury to not get embarrassed by Fox again
So looks like Self and the staff will be rotating in and out of the 3 major AAU tournaments that start this week. Peach Jam, UA & Adidas as well as Peach State for Ayo.
Nike EYBL Peach Jam - starts on Wednesday. Some of the KU targets EYBL has - Emmitt Williams, Bagley, Bol, Louis King, Jalen Carey and more.
Ayo will be playing in the tourney for the teams that didn't make Peach Jam
Under Armour is in the ATL - Moses Brown, Naz Reid and more
Adidas -Zion, Langford, Quickley, Grimes, Devon Dotson, Jordan Brown to name some.
Looks like the staff should predominately be at Adidas if I were them. See Ayo and some of Peach Jam as well. I'm sure it will be the opposite..
Sure seems like Lonzo ducked playing against Fox last night with a fake injury..
Really?
We never would have Tarik Black as a beloved Hawk..
The graduate transfer rule should not be taken away but maybe there are things that can be done to make it better. It's only a big issue in Basketball, Football and Baseball and why is that? Money$$$
The mess with Cameron Johnson transferring from Pitt to UNC this spring is a prime example of the issue. Johnson had already graduated from Pitt and wanted to go to UNC which is in the same conference. Pitt tried everything to restrict him and finally succumbed to public pressure in the end. But it took months for Johnson to get his release from Pitt even though he had already fulfilled his academic requirement for Pitt. Had Johnson been a regular transfer that had to sit a year (another fallacy) he would have lost a year of eligibility transferring in-conference. Pitt tried everything they could to apply this restriction to him because Johnson left Pitt with 2 years of playing eligibility left.
Coaches, AD's, should NEVER have the right to restrict a kid from going anywhere. They do not own these kids like property.
The other side of the issue is that the graduate transfer option for kids is being abused by those who have no intent on finishing a masters degree at the new school they go to. I can see where schools would be upset at kids who transfer in for 1 year and don't finish their academics. That spot could have been given to a regular student who is there for academic reasons only. This part of the loophole is not fair to everyone and it makes it seem that the athlete is getting an extra benefit not available to other students.
Great game by Mason. Huge bounce back for him