@Woodrow said in 2022 Recruiting Thread:
@BShark I saw where Duren's pro deal was 2M so FedEX really ponied up for him.
Holy cripes.
To @BShark’s point, we didn’t land Precious Achiwua because we weren’t willing to play ball with his guy. Also all but confirmed Rayjon Tucker got a big bag to commit to Memphis after being a silent commit to KU.
@jayballer67 said in 2022 Recruiting Thread:
@JAYHAWKFAN214 said in 2022 Recruiting Thread:
Jayhawkslant @Jayhawkslant 1m just talked to elite small forward and #kubball comment @mjrice_1. He's not thinking about the pros.he ready to get to Kansas and get to work.
That's an obvious statement for him to make at this particular time - Of course he is going to say that , he just verbally committed to KU. - He is gonna say whatever he thinks people want to hear right now.
A Lot of time before it's time for him to actually come. Don't feel really all that confident , not alone feeling that way, BUT however he did say he wanted to take the year and continue to work his Senior year and get better. If he comes and think it's like 50/50 probably if he come would be a really sweet get
Yeah, I'm not treating him as a member of the team until he shows up in 10 months.
@BShark noted rival of Team Chad
Watched some of Chandler Jackson’s stuff on the YouTube. Looks really good for a Self team. Coming unofficially for Late Night then officially for a game.
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@jayballer67 said in 2022 Recruiting Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2022 Recruiting Thread:
It's gonna be KU. Whether he ever wears the jersey or not is TBD
So honest sincere question here Farmer. - Is Rice that talented to consider G-League right out of high school? I've heard alot of good things about him , must be pretty good if he is one of these players that's considering that.
He is announcing tomorrow. - -The guy from Zagsblog Zagoria is predicting KU would be cool if we can get him on Campus & committed even if IT IS for one year
I think so. The other league (I forget the name) could be an option if the G League falls through.
It's gonna be KU. Whether he ever wears the jersey or not is TBD
@jayballer67 said in 2022 Recruiting Thread:
@BShark said in 2022 Recruiting Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk yup
NIL is looking like a game changer.
So it looked like NC State was suppose to be the leader for awhile. What happened there, they cool off ?
They’ve been burned badly on guys that eventually went pro so Big Brain Keatts has finally learned his lesson
Soooo I would pay attention to Rice. Think KU and Pitt are the ones to watch, with the G League also on the table.
@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:
Memphis cheats. Nuf said
Related: the national press LOVES Memphis. And I don’t see it at all. Am I missing something?
@jayballer67 we'll see! Today was exactly the 2nd day Leipold has coached this team so there's a lot to shake out before South Dakota.
@Marco said in 2021 Recruiting:
@Woodrow said in 2021 Recruiting:
Bates isn’t old enough for the 2022 draft so he basically has to make a 2 year decision. I saw a lot of speculation yesterday after he made the decision to reclassify that he might go to college for 1 year and then the G-League for 1 year.
Really? Then why reclassify? It would be safer for him to just play high school ball and then go G-League.
NIL has changed the game. Can make some dough in college now, and Bates will make A LOT
@mayjay said in OU, Texas to the SEC?:
If I didn't live in The Confederacy, I would chuckle nonstop at the idiots in other states' governments. But one difference is that you guys get a mob following several nitwits who make the news because of new stupidities. Our mob and nitwits seldom make news. An occasional intelligent person is what makes news here.
As an adopted North Carolinian, I feel this SO HARD
@Crimsonorblue22 I’m a proud member of #TeamModerna!
CJ’s piece here is great https://theathletic.com/2752799/2021/08/04/whats-the-conference-affiliation-matter-with-kansas-jayhawks-bill-self-hope-hoops-brand-ensures-soft-landing/?source=user_shared_article ↗
Money quote, “You’re going to find that Kansas and (Kentucky) are off the charts in viewers, and then there is everyone else.”
“He added that those are two programs whose numbers are actually competitive with college football.”
So why is this a big deal? The NCAA runs off the NCAA Tournament. Without it, they can’t make ends meet. We’re a key cog in a breakaway strategy. Also, what’s one of the fastest growing industries? Sports gambling. What’s one of the most gambled on sports events? The NCAA Tournament. Conferences will figure out how to monetize it. An alpha like Kansas basketball is very valuable.
Guys, this is getting tougher. My own mom is very vaccine hesitant. I think the worst thing for her long term was getting a mild covid case last year. She’s seeing rumors of local folks in rural Kansas having strokes right after getting the vaccine. Which, is there a connection? I guess it’s possible. Likely? The data don’t bear it out. So do I tell my grandparents (mid 80’s, lots of comorbidities) to not see her until she gets the vaccine? What do we do about holidays?
This is the big psychological with this situation; not only is it literally tearing families apart with people dying needlessly, it’s needlessly separating families by forcing us to make this stupid, needless decisions. There’s a non-zero chance I’ll get to see my grandparents (we’re all vaccinated) but not my own mom (we might create a bubble since it’s a low vaccine take up county).
Tl;dr: anti-vaxxers make me cranky
@Crimsonorblue22 said in OU, Texas to the SEC?:
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Roger Marshall wants a federal investigation
What a clown. Glad Senator Karen wants to talk to the manager at Disney instead of doing his actual job.
@Marco I think we take the first power offer to come. Can't risk getting left in the cold.
Ok this has gone from a wisp of smoke to a full brush fire in the last day+ (while I'm grading finals! A holes) and we're gonna be fine. I expect at minimum KU announcing we're not going to sign an extended GoR. At most we announce we're headed to the B1G in 2025.
@Crimsonorblue22 yes. Theory being the more teams that leave or at least accept invites to other leagues, the faster the Big 12 goes belly up and schools can have a cleaner break. Now is that 2022? 23? I don't know, but that seems to be where things are headed.
@Texas-Hawk-10 I'd think it depends on if they go to 16 immediately and who #16 is. If it's Colorado or Virginia, pods make a lot of sense. If they stay at 15, just add us to the West and be done with it.
@jayballer67 I would be floored if either OSU or ISU ended up in the B1G. OSU isn't an AAU member, and I think probably Notre Dame is the only non-AAU school that the B1G would invite as of now. ISU doesn't really add much. Iowa would hate it and they don't add a lot in terms of consistent success to the league.
@jayballer67 agree on all points. The B1G West games would be fun: Minnesota, Iowa, Nebraska(!), Wisconsin, etc.
@Crimsonorblue22 I haven't! I did the Cosmosphere a couple times which was really cool. It's on my bucket list though!
Some scuttlebutt KU to the B1G will be done by the end of the week. I'm taking it with a Hutch Salt Mine sized grain of salt.
This is what Girod was talking about re: the future of the NCAA. Decentralizing power to the leagues sets the stage for an eventual breakaway. 🐦 View Tweet?s=21
Garrett is the type that can steal the show in the summer league.
@jayballer67 said in OU, Texas to the SEC?:
@FarmerJayhawk said in OU, Texas to the SEC?:
@jayballer67 said in OU, Texas to the SEC?:
@FarmerJayhawk said in OU, Texas to the SEC?:
Also, Strong Hall feels VERY good they'll land in either the B1G or ACC. If I were a betting man, I'd put a couple bucks on the ACC. But scenarios definitely exist for both depending on TV deals.
Who we talking here Farmer ? - -We talking about possibly KU to the ACC OR B1G - or are we talking West Virginia ?
Your Kansas Jayhawks! 0% chance WVU gets even a sniff from the B1G. Academics are not good
You still thinking the Big 10 for KU ?
ACC or Big Ten. I believe whichever decides to jump in the expansion pool first invites KU.
@jayballer67 said in OU, Texas to the SEC?:
@FarmerJayhawk said in OU, Texas to the SEC?:
Also, Strong Hall feels VERY good they'll land in either the B1G or ACC. If I were a betting man, I'd put a couple bucks on the ACC. But scenarios definitely exist for both depending on TV deals.
Who we talking here Farmer ? - -We talking about possibly KU to the ACC OR B1G - or are we talking West Virginia ?
Your Kansas Jayhawks! 0% chance WVU gets even a sniff from the B1G. Academics are not good
Also, Strong Hall feels VERY good they'll land in either the B1G or ACC. If I were a betting man, I'd put a couple bucks on the ACC. But scenarios definitely exist for both depending on TV deals.
@jayballer67 said in OU, Texas to the SEC?:
they say start in 2025. - - I don't think other memebers now that we know for sure , I don't think the remaining Schools are going to wait until 2025. I think the league dissolves BEFORE then.
UNLESS the remaining members go out aggressively and try to add 2 teams 4 teams BEFORE OU & Texas leaves - whatever the case I just can't see these others staying pat.We know if W Virginia gets any interest from the ACC - - their gone. - can't even be sure that if some of these other Schools get invites that they won't both - -this is now a lame Duck league. I'd rather get this over with /setteled sooner then later. -Our AD and who ever needs to get aggressive and not sit on their hands and get caught with their pants down
They absolutely will not wait until 2025 to leave. Just saying the right things until they can get away for really cheap.
@Oldmanhawk thank you!
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@RockkChalkk said in Self Has Covid:
"The vaccine is safe." How do you know? You don't know that for certain because nobody does. If its so safe, why do the manufacturers need immunity? Are we just supposed to take the word of the people that first blamed the origins of this on a bat, then a snake, then a pangolin, but vehemently dismissed anyone questioning whether it came from the Coronavirus Gain of Function research lab 2 blocks from the wet market? 6,000+ people have died in the US directly after getting the shot based on data reported to VAERS thus far, not counting the tens of thousands of adverse effects.
"The vaccine is effective AF" So what are you so worried about if others choose not to take it? It shouldn't impact you at all. Sure, government is making it impact you but its not the non-vaxers fault, blame government. No matter how many get the shot, they will move the goalpost even farther. Remember "two weeks to stop the spread"? It will never end.
This pandemic has been a jackpot for so many people, there 40 new Billionaires in 2020 alone directly resulting from COVID! I'm sure the DC lobbyists aren't using any of this money to buy government influence. :face_with_rolling_eyes:
Point 1: the mRNA vaccines are among the safest vaccines ever developed when tested in trials. Multiple vaccines have been through phase 3 without many issues at all. In a broader context they did find some instance of blood clots after vaccination. However, it's worth noting the risk of blood clots is much higher with covid, "While the rate of VTE after vaccination was, for example, around 1.3 fold higher than background rates, it was 8-fold higher after a diagnosis of COVID-19." (https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3886421) ↗
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/is-the-covid19-vaccine-safe ↗
Point 2: vaccines are nearly 100% effective at preventing severe disease. We know this. However, it does not provide 100% sterilizing immunity, meaning you can still pass the virus onto others. We expected this. If family members to refuse vaccination and get very sick because of me, that affects me A LOT. Virginia does this nice thing where they separate outbreaks by vaccination status. From May 1 to July 22, 97.28% of cases were in those not fully vaccinated. Among those fully vaccinated, .016% became infected with covid (breakthrough cases). Also among the fully vaccinated, .0013% were hospitalized. That's 61 out of more than 4.5 million people. https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/coronavirus/covid-19-data-insights/covid-19-cases-by-vaccination-status/ ↗
Point 3: do not, do not, do not, do not ever use VAERS to make any judgements about vaccine safety. They're all self-reported data (i.e. not validated) and not investigated before they're in the database. Careful analysis reveals significant underlying conditions OR vaccines administered as a Hail Mary to save someone as they're dying from covid. It counts as an adverse event in VAERS, but not anything to be relied on for actual evaluation.
Point 4: I looked up the 40 billionaires claim. That's worldwide, and many were CEO's of the firms that developed vaccines (see point 3). That seems totally fine to me? I mean, not like they were ripping anyone off. If they want to lobby Congress, fine I suppose. Not sure what a test tube maker would be that interested in. https://www.forbes.com/sites/giacomotognini/2021/04/06/meet-the-40-new-billionaires-who-got-rich-fighting-covid-19/?sh=226aad3317e5 ↗
@Crimsonorblue22 said in OU, Texas to the SEC?:
@FarmerJayhawk you think we have a plan ready to go if they jump ship any time? Do you think Girod wants us to stay with the leftovers?
My strong sense is they'll jump on the first offer among ACC, PAC, or B1G. And all else equal, B1G is preferred. I think his comments about athletics budgets in G5 type money were really revealing. The Big 12's payout sans OU/UT (no matter which G5's they add) would be a fraction of our current payout, and Girod knows we have to avoid that scenario if at all possible.
@Crimsonorblue22 yeah, I thought he hit mostly the right notes. Didn't say much of anything and left the door WIDE OPEN to leaving the Big 12 as soon as we're able.
@Kcmatt7 said in OU, Texas to the SEC?:
Id be lying if I said I wasn’t nervous…
Anyone who isn’t is either ignorant or lying 😳
Really smart on their part. Get the rest of the teams for cheap in the AAC, plus burn the Big 12 to the ground allowing you to avoid exit fees. The worldwide leader indeed.
Unanimous. 🐦 View Tweet?s=21
A&M a week ago, “WE’RE GOING TO KILL THIS!!”
A&M today, “lol jk we like monies” https://247sports.com/Article/Texas-AM-Board-of-Regents-votes-to-support-SEC-expansion-Oklahoma-Sooners-Longhorns-big-12-168412847/ ↗
@BShark said in 2022 Recruiting Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2022 Recruiting Thread:
Makes me glad we probably won't play him in college
I'm listening. :popcorn:
Pretty sure we won’t be in the same league come 22-23
Worth noting Girod opposed (or at least had significant concerns) at the time.
Makes me glad we probably won't play him in college
It's a bummer. I've been researching methods to nudge vaccine hesitant folks (remember, vaccine hesitant != vaccine resistant) into getting it and it's tough. Lots of psychological obstacles to get through and my natural language (empiricism, reason) doesn't get the job done. You can send all the studies, data, and articles you want but that won't do much good. Have to meet people where they're at.
@Marco said in 2022 Crootin:
Thoughts anyone? Is Leipold a good fit? If not, is Mangino in decent health and not busy?
I’m a huge, huge Leipold fan. Think he’s going to do very well here.
@Crimsonorblue22 said in OU, Texas to the SEC?:
@FarmerJayhawk won’t tie us to KSU?
Absolutely not. KBOR will let each school do what’s best.
@Crimsonorblue22 said in OU, Texas to the SEC?:
I read in the hutch paper the board of regents has to agree.
This is correct. And they will; just a rubber stamp.
@ICTJayhawk said in OU, Texas to the SEC?:
Well, we are "out"....the question is just where we are going to be "in". If it is the "Big XII" (or other non-P conference) we are going to be on the stepping stone to death....be it slow or fast depending on where we land. If we don't make the B1G or the SEC our athletic programs are going to take a MAJOR hit.....to the tune of as much as $30M PER YEAR!! I certainly can't write a check to cover that! Can you? The people over on KU Sports seem to think that we're going to be "OK".......I don't know if they are in denial or really just don't understand what college sports have become.....a BIG BUSINESS. And, in BIG BUSINESS, the "little guy" (read: Non P Conferences) really doesn't seem to have much of a chance. Not only would we not have a plate at the table, we wouldn't have a table!! Not trying to be an alarmist, but with I think no more than a 50-50 chance for landing in the B1G and even less for the SEC, I hope our new AD is in 24/7 mode!
Goff isn’t really on this issue. Girod however…
There’s significant interest from B1G Presidents in adding KU. Nobody knows if it’ll happen or not, but looks good as of 9:54 PM 7/26
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@jayballer67 said in OU, Texas to the SEC?:
@FarmerJayhawk said in OU, Texas to the SEC?:
@jayballer67 said in OU, Texas to the SEC?:
@FarmerJayhawk said in OU, Texas to the SEC?:
Can confirm KU has no interest in extending its GoR with the Big 12 at this time.
What is GoR Farmer ? - -little thick here lol
Lol no worries my dude. It’s the grant of rights, so us signing over our tv deals to the league because we’re all more valuable together than individually
So I guess what your saying then is that KU also has no intention or want to renew after current runs out. More or less just dissolve the Big 12 and look elsewhere ? - -Is that right ? Or no saying they want the Big 12 to band together ? - this crap is just I dunnoa. Personally I almost feel like saying screw it and everyone ttry and find new desginations
My impression from KU is plan A) B1G plan B) ACC plan C) pray
@jayballer67 said in OU, Texas to the SEC?:
@FarmerJayhawk said in OU, Texas to the SEC?:
Can confirm KU has no interest in extending its GoR with the Big 12 at this time.
What is GoR Farmer ? - -little thick here lol
Lol no worries my dude. It’s the grant of rights, so us signing over our tv deals to the league because we’re all more valuable together than individually
Can confirm KU has no interest in extending its GoR with the Big 12 at this time.
@BeddieKU23 said in OU, Texas to the SEC?:
Its over OU, Texas pulling out. Whether it happens before 2025 is going to be hotly decided
I think it’s inevitable. They can’t say they’re leaving now or they’re on the hook for any damages, but I’d be really surprised if they’re in the league a year from now.