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Kcmatt7 said:

Texas Hawk 10 said:

@Kcmatt7 Wilson and Enaruna play different positions. Wilson is a stretch 4 and Enaruna is a 3. Wilson or McBride/Harris (whichever gets the back up PG job) will be the freshman with the most minutes this year.

You might be right. But Enaruna is 6’9 and looks like a modern athletic 4 to me.

We have a winner! Enaruna is a legit 6’9 according to folks in the building. 6’9.25 or .5 depending on the time of day. And there’s a chance he’s not done. Has grown a couple inches in the last 2 years. Also close to 7’1 wingspan. Dude is large. And also just turned 18 so he’s at least a year younger than most freshmen, and in a lot of cases 2 years younger. 6’9+ 215 (I think he ends up around there) is easily big enough to guard the 4.

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We get Tennessee at AFH for the Big 12/SEC Challenge.

Twitter seems to think Butler for Russell

And Rush would be pretty close to the last one. They want the full 25 and figure out the shirt colors later, but could be a difficult thing if Jayden Russell takes a gray. We’ve already used a handful of 2020 counters from the 2019 class.

BShark said:

@Kcmatt7 Exactly. Not saying it is true but a proven fairly reliable source and there is something that is having KU hold up.

@FarmerJayhawk Oh be fair now Ryan isn't tonto, lol.

Yeah, I was talking about tonto. He’s got a weird thing about KU. Maybe Self banged his wife.

Marco said:

@FarmerJayhawk I don't see Dave playing alot of 4, either. He looked, at times, somewhat clumsy out there last (maybe just due to his motor) year. We'll see.

I think a lot of that had to do with how rapidly he’s transformed his body. Check out an Oak Hill game from his senior year vs. late in the year last year. Give Dave a ton of credit because like Tex said, he’s gone from 300+ to 260 and pretty cut.

alwaysajayhawk said:

@BShark That is so far from the truth. I heard from a very reliable source that Berry is just the opposite. Strong work ethic in the gym lifting and getting shots up , have you seen his body lately the muscle mass that he has put on since his freshman year, He is also a very good student and an exceptional person.

I usually take those with a grain of salt. It’s pretty rare to find a non-knucklehead 16 year old. The guy on the Phog who starts a lot of them has never had anything good to say about the KU program. Don’t even know why he follows it honestly.

Marco said:

@FarmerJayhawk Yeah, anything under ten doesn't count.

As far as being a rotation guy, <10 MPG with multiple DNP-CD's doesn't count.

@justanotherfan 100% agree. I watched Perry a couple times after he committed to KU and he was several notches above everyone else. Mark Mitchell will be the same (c/o '22 stud at Miege.) And a lot of times, the transition to P5 ball is rough. Perry's freshman year was a total loss until the Big 12 tournament where it all clicked.

S TJ Rush visiting this weekend. I think we get him.

@Kcmatt7 True. Ulis is the closest to Harmon's size, and is a true PG where Harmon is definitely more of a combo at this point. Frank was too when Townsend saw him first, but was also a freak athlete and a couple inches taller. Edwards is a good comp. Harmon isn't the shot maker Edwards is, but there's a time component to that.

@Texas-Hawk-10 The differences between T-Rob and Dave are pretty stark. T-Rob was always known as a really bouncy, high motor athlete and that didn't change once he put on good weight at KU. Dave is athletically challenged. Almost every scout has commented he's an absolute liability defending away from the basket, where Robinson was not. Even when he gets his body right, he still won't be even an average athlete for the 4 spot. He's much, much better in the paint. We won't be able to switch much of anything with both he and Doke out there. The one thing he would be able to do is make the entry pass in the high low. And that's it. That's all he's got as a 4 man.

I don't buy the 2012 parallel for a few reasons. First is Withey was much more mobile than Doke, and could knock down the occasional midrange jumper if need be. Doke can't hit anything from outside the paint. T-Rob was also a fierce rebounder where Withey wasn't. McCormack and Withey actually had similar percentages in 18-19 and 11-12. If anything, McCormack is more like Withey than T-Rob. Had some touch for a center, not a great rebounder, but Dave isn't really a shot blocker, he was about the same as Dedric last year in block %. If anyone on the squad this year should look at Thomas's tape and try to emulate him, it's Silvio. Both have similar builds and skillsets. Thomas and Dave are really far apart. I think Dave's ceiling is a pretty skilled but athletically limited 5 with a really good motor. Nothing like Thomas. Silvio on the other hand has an elite motor and rebounding skills to go along with very good athleticism and not a lot of skill on offense. At least not that we've seen yet, but he did have a reputation of having a developing offensive skillset at IMG.

I think Wilson is the better option as the backup 4. He's obviously much more skilled offensively than McCormack, is an above average athlete for a 4, and still has the size to not get worked by a lot of 4's. And he can space the floor to allow Dotson and Garrett to drive. It would be breaking tendency for Self to cut his big rotation to 3 if he has the bodies to play 4. I can see some Perry Ellis in Wilson's game, which Bill loves.

KUSTEVE said:

This Berry you speak of...why are so many on here gaga about him?

We love our local players until they get to KU and then we rip them to shreds.

@justanotherfan honestly if he grows into a 6'6 wing that can really shoot I'd probably take him.

BShark said:

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Overrated (clap clap clap lap clap). As a general rule, I’d prefer we didn’t offer guys my height, 5’8 on a good day.

@Texas-Hawk-10 I like Dave a lot, but there’s no way he’s a better athlete than Silvio and he’s not the defender T-Rob was. You say we don’t really know what we have in Silvio, but you’re making a lot of assumptions about Dave’s development. The coaches have also said Silvio has developed a good midrange game. And we already know what kind of athlete he is. McCormack has never shown even average athleticism for a 4. How many guys universally scouted as a center played the 4 for Self? If McCormack is different, how so?

All I said it was higher. Because I looked it up. I haven’t analyzed it to see its significance level.

@Texas-Hawk-10 Doke was still the focal point last season when he was available. Self said we still were playing through Doke and he had a higher usage rate than Dedric. Doke is what he is. He’ll be about 13/7/2 and shoot a stupid percentage. And he’ll be a frustratingly poor rebounder for his size. He and Dave have very similar career rebounding rates.

I’ll be really surprised if Dave plays much, if any 4. Self has almost never played 2 not quick bigs together. Closest parallel I can think of is Joel and Tarik, who almost never played together. Jamari got almost all the backup 4 minutes (he actually played more than Tarik that year.) He’s much preferred a guy with some skill and quickness (e.g. Shady, Perry, Billy, Dedric). So it would be a big trend break for Bill to go down that road. And I don’t think Dave can guard many 4’s. He’s just not quick enough laterally. If Bill sticks to form, he’ll play Jalen or Tristan at the backup 4. Dave exclusively at the 5.

@Texas-Hawk-10 I can’t see all 3 at 25-30. There’s only 80 available at the 4 and 5 and 25 each would leave only 5 for Wilson and/or Enaruna at the 4. I agree that Silvio could push 30 since he’s the only that can play both spots. Last year Doke was around 23, 24 the year before. I don’t think he goes over 25 given Silvio and Dave are both better FT shooters.

Marco said:

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CJ’s breakdown seems pretty reasonable to me. He assumes Mitch and Braun RS. I think Moss probably gets a few more and McBride a few less. Probably Doke a few less and Dave a few more as well. Doke probably never will be a guy that can play 27 MPG because of foul trouble and poor FT shooting.

Thank you, Farmer.... And that would be a ten man rotation.

Might be semantics, but that’s an 8 man rotation. I don’t consider anyone who averages under 10 MPG in the rotation.

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CJ’s breakdown seems pretty reasonable to me. He assumes Mitch and Braun RS. I think Moss probably gets a few more and McBride a few less. Probably Doke a few less and Dave a few more as well. Doke probably never will be a guy that can play 27 MPG because of foul trouble and poor FT shooting.

Crimsonorblue22 said:

Nobody thinks McBride will get any mins?

He’ll be around 5 MPG. He’ll have a few games with 10-15 minutes just from foul trouble but he’ll have a bunch of 1-4 minute games and DNP’s. The third PG on the depth chart won’t have many opportunities.

Crimsonorblue22 said:

@FarmerJayhawk did you say kind words about duke?🤣

If I did please call the nearest psychiatric hospital immediately.

rockchalkwyo said:

I could see Silvio giving Hurt a wedgie, and hanging him by the rim. But nothing beats what @FarmerJayhawk said in the Duke thread. I still say that it's the perfect post.

Thank you for your kind words!

JAYHAWKFAN214 said:

2021 Javonte brown has a offer from ku

A reclass to 2020 is likely here. Big kid too. 6'11 230. https://247sports.com/Player/Javonte-Brown-46085754/ ↗

KU put a release about it but the event itself was no press.

I'd hold your jealousy. The all night open bar was only actually open for like an hour because the hotel messed up.

I'm in DC right now to see friends and was at the Kansas Society annual banquet last night where Self was honored as Kansan of the Year. It was a really cool event. Self told the story of how Rep. Yoder and Sen. Moran were instrumental in getting Doke's mom to the states for the Final Four in 2018. She went from not having a passport or transportation to the airport to Texas in about a week. The event was sold out for the first time in a very long time. The list of attendees was absurd: the entire Congressional delegation, FCC Chair Ajit Pai (from Parsons), Sec. Pompeo, a DC circuit judge whose name escapes me, AD Long, and of course Self.

I spoke to Self and Long for just a bit. I didn't ask about any player in particular since it was just a cocktail reception and dinner, so just told Self I loved the look of the team, and he "thinks they have a chance to be pretty good." I told Long I was as excited for KU football as I've been in about a decade and he loved hearing that from an alum.

My dream class is still Nix, Thompson, Todd, Sissoko, and Jacob Love. I think all those guards can actually play together since both Nix and Thompson are around 6’5. So your lineup would be Nix, Thompson, Garrett, Todd, McCormack. Main rotation guys are Love, Harris, Wilson, and Enaruna. HAVE SOME

@BShark yessir. Possibly whole starting 5 plus Mitch.

I think Walker goes to college. When/where still TBD.

We’re going to need bodies too. Could lose 6 guys from this year’s roster. I really like Harris but he won’t be a KU caliber starter for 2-3 years. I’m not sure what we have in McBride yet. He’s never been a distributor really. Need 2 more guards to bridge us to upperclassmen Harris and McBride. I could also see one of Wilson/Enaruna as our starting 4 next year, so that opens up a spot at the wing for a different guy.

BShark said:

Can't see signing an impact wing at all. Enaruna, Wilson, Garret and to a lesser extent Braun will likely all still be on the roster.

I still can. If Kyree Walker wants to come, you take him. So we’ll see.

We still need 2 guards, possibly a wing, and 2 bigs.

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New offer. He was terrific this weekend. https://247sports.com/Player/Kerwin-Walton-46057218/ ↗

Good for Berry, not so good for KSHAA basketball.

For sure. The trailer has me riveted. The coaching search itself was absolutely nuts even though most knew it was Miles from about August.

This is going to be really, really cool. First episodes air next month. https://www.cjonline.com/sports/20190716/ku-football-espn-announce-18-part-series-documenting-les-miles-first-season ↗

Marco said:

@dylans Bold prediction, aside from what the KU staff might want @FarmerJayhawk - and I agree, Love is bigtime - we will have only McBride, Harris and Garrett as our depth point guards. So, let's move on to the frontcourt, who?

I’m watching Mady Sissoko, Dawson Garcia, Josh Hall, and Isaiah Todd.

BeddieKU23 said:

Love retweeted something about KU coaches being 4 deep for his game. Bodes well you would think.

Very much so. Get Love, Thompson, and Harris then call it good.

@Marco the staff wants at least 2 guards in 2020. If Harris doesn’t reclassify he’d be the third. They don’t want to rely on McBride as a 30 MPG guy as a sophomore. Harris won’t be ready to be the guy either. Love and Thompson are such good fits because they’re interchangeable on both ends. Both have the length to slide to the 3 in a small lineup. Chasing all these 6’0 ish guards doesn’t give us near the flexibility we want.

KU leads for Caleb Love.

nuleafjhawk said:

@FarmerJayhawk Seriously? After the Turner Gill debacle you weren't happy about the Weis hire?

Affirmative. After all the names that surfaced during that search, we ended up with front butt. Zenger went to find the best, and he found Charlie Weis. I really wanted Dave Doeren or Mike Leach then.

I wasn't, but can't speak for others.

Video:

Still surreal seeing Les f'ing Miles as KU HC.

@Kcmatt7 I think redshirt. He's not a guy that's going to leave early so having an experienced PG on the roster when OAD goes away will be a big advantage.

It's grade and course completing dependent so nobody really knows for sure.

Harris can really play. He'll be a giant pain in the ass for everyone in the league. While we may never wow you with athleticism, he just is good at basketball.

BeddieKU23 said:

FarmerJayhawk said:

Evan CB’d Harris to KU. Lock city

So it sounds done but still the question of which class right?

Yessir. I believe it’s grade dependent. If he can get all the coursework done and qualify, I think he ends up in 2019.

Evan CB’d Harris to KU. Lock city