Best line from Tucky fans after their horrid loss to an unranked MSU team
"CHEATIN AZZ CORKSOAKIN REFS F U IZZO"
Jethro
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Here we go...RCJHGKU...
The Rumpers are apoplectic. Hilarious! Fire Calamari!
Tucky grabbed defeat out of the jaws of victory. How sweet it is!
beautiful pick and roll...
ugh...Sparty sux...lol.
In this first game, I have become a temp Spartans fan- go Sparty!
Damn- wish MJ and Zach were playing tonight. I wish Bill was coaching this game.
@DanR said in Taking on DOOK:
I expect a great game and I think we pull away at the end with depth and speed and win by around 7. A few things I'm curious about that will set the tone for the season...
I don't want Wilson to force trying being the top scoring option in this game or any other unless teams have him covered by some unskilled defensive matador. But I HOPE he'll get 20+ in the flow tomorrow night unless Duke tries to throttle him. He should be wise enough to get a bunch of assists if they shut him down.
This will be a great game to find out if Gradey can maintain his composure under the hot spotlights (I think he'll thrive)
Best big man for the season will emerge from this game (not without future flaws and f-ups, but a good showing against Duke will forgive a lot of future sins).
Crunch time free throws
Bring it on!!
I hope Dook tries to run with us. If they do, we could blow it open.
@BeddieKU23 said in Taking on DOOK:
Lots of unhappy gamblers right around 11:30pm eastern time tonight I'm predicting
86-79 is my prediction- KU wins!
We're now 1.5 point underdogs. All the gambling money is coming in on Dook.
TCU gets beat by Northwestern St. at home 64-63. WTH?
The line is now KU -1.5.
Cuffe out 3 MONTHS:
@BeddieKU23 said in Taking on DOOK:
We'll see, I'm not diminishing that it's Duke and they have talented players. They are playing big right now because they don't have Whitehead to plug in the starting lineup. It's a significant piece missing so they are adjusting right now. Roach is their only guard playing well since he's a vet, their other prized guard has been downright awful in their 2 games so far.
We're minus Self for this matchup so Duke is extremely lucky there & perhaps that's something we need to take a bit more serious than we have. Norm has done a great job so far, but this is a whole different level of game. Kind of even since this is Scheyer's first without Daddy to take care of him.
If this game is played right, KU shouldn't have to worry about their size as much as Duke has to worry about KU's firepower in the backcourt/wing. I think we hold a significant advantage on the perimeter in this game & that should ultimately lead to a KU victory.
Agree that if we can push the tempo where we like it that would be ideal. I do wonder how our half-court offense will look against good teams (hence why I was surprised how cohesive this group has looked in warmup games) since we have so many guys stepping into bigger roles.
This emphasis on pushing tempo that started last year has been a very pleasant improvement over previous years. We used to say Billy Eugene was stuck in his ways, but the guy keeps finding ways to say hold my beer.
I'm giving Dook every benefit of the doubt. We're 4-2 in our last 6 against them. We are 11-1 in our last 12 games against the ACC. We have a huge experience advantage that should show up front and center tomorrow night. We're a faster better defensive team, and I think we win by 5-7 points. Like all ranked teams we play, it will be a challenge.
@BeddieKU23 They still have Ten ranked 3rd in adjusted defense, even though they got rocked for 88 points at home.
@BeddieKU23 said in Taking on DOOK:
Personally, I don't think this Duke team is that good without Whitehead right now. Last year's Duke team would beat them by 25+. But it's a new year and anything can happen I suppose.
I'm hopeful our vets especially Jalen, Kev & Juan will carry the rest of the team. Duke is so reliant on freshman this year. Perhaps Lively becomes a version of Banchero & they are able to anchor around that, but I don't see nearly the hype for him as there was with Banchero.
It will be interesting to see who steps up on the big stage. I know Jalen is going to and I hope the rest of the team rallies around that
I hope you're right. I think we'll be the fastest team in college bb, for us to win we have to push tempo. If we can run on them, I think we'll win w/o a sweat. If it's a half court game, it's going to be a nail biter, imo.
Here's a shocker- Tad Boyle's Buffs beat down 11th ranked Tennessee 78-66 on the Vols home floor. Funny part is Colorado lost to unranked Grambling St on Friday.
I think if JD was back, we win that game. Not taking anything away from Bean, but JD's athleticism would've got him past Tech's option defense into the gaps.Bean was just a tad slow, imo. To be fair, Tech is a hard place to play. There's nothing else to do in Lubbock, so everybody goes to the game. The other factor was we were in a letdown spot one the road after clinching the bowl game, and Tech was fighting for their lives knowing they had to win to have any chance at a bowl game. And our field goal kicker went cockeyed.
@kuballin10 said in Taking on DOOK:
@Jethro Duke to me is no doubt a top 5 team in the country. They’d smoke UK and the Zags right now.
Great test early on can our speed negate their size?
Can our defense travel and we turn over guys more athletic than us?We have to shoot it well because we will not get many easy baskets at the rim.
Tucky is the 2nd best team in the country, behind UNC. IMO.
@stoptheflop said in Taking on DOOK:
Just because only Duke can, wouldn't you put all the centers in a game at one time: 7', 7', 7'1", 7'1" & 6'10". Play zone defense and put the four best shooters outside the arc on offense. It sure would get fans talking.
I'll note that. I'll put that in my Perry Ellis at the 3 file.
As a test, this is more of a pop quiz than the final exam. We're still finding out who we are, and what we're about. Overall, I think we're ahead of last year at the same time, but I think Dook looks like they've been practicing everyday for 6 months. Our bigs might have the biggest challenge they'll see all year, which is a good thing. If they succeed, then great. If not, they know what they have to work on going forward. Dook might be the only team in the country with the athletes that can keep up with our team speed. Both teams try to turn over their opponent, so it's going to be interesting to see who wins the turnover battle. This game is far more interesting than Sparty/Sucky, imo.
First big test of the season. I was hoping our speed would negate their size advantage, but their game last night leads me to believe we're facing quite an elite team. They scored 40 points off turnovers against SC Upstate, turning them over 23 times. They had 15 steals, and 7 blocks. They really spread the court, and have really talented guys that can take folks one on one. Roach drives into the defense, and whips out passes to shooters on the perimeter who bury the shot. Mitchell is simply a beast driving to the basket. I see why we wanted him so bad. Fillipowski is a high bb iq guy, and has quick hands for a big. He had two steals where he took the ball away, drove the length of the court, and dunked. We're going to have our hands full:
Fastest team in the Bill Self era? Smartest team since 2008? Bill found a new way to beat teams in the tournament last year, and he's "running" with it. This is a really great thread- great points by numerous posters. My only add is I am hesitant to anoint MJ quite yet. Saw some talented moves, but also saw some glaring rookie mistakes. I hope he stays humble and teachable, even if only for the one year he's here.
How are they going to slow us down? We don't need height- we need SPEED. Dook won't see a faster team all year. The NDSU coach was right- you can't practice for that kind of speed. We look like a Roy offense on steroids. We don't have to change our style one bit. No lumberjack wrestling matches with footers. Those footer's tongues are going to be hanging out. RCJHGKU.
@wissox said in Other games:
Badgers stifle Stanford. 60-50. Tyler Wahl's a nice player. Potential matchup with the Badgers up coming for KU.
That would be fun. I like our chances ...
@kuballin10 said in Ernest Udeh:
Honestly wish we’d give up on the Z train and let Zuby play more. With our wings we have enough scoring and Zuby will at least look at the rim when he catches it or rebounds it under the basket.
In limited minutes last year, Z had some great moments but he looks all out of sorts and actually slower than before. It’s as if the game hasn’t slowed down for him mentally but sped up which makes no sense his second year in the system.
This team looks much better than last year's team at this stage of the game, imo.
I found this:
NEUT # 5 Duke +0.75 0.527
Translated, it means this guy expects KU to win by 3/4 of a point, with a 52% level of accuracy. He picked KU to win last night's game by...23. So, it could certainly be a pic em or a KU -1 to open. Of course, the betting public could move that line quick.
@Woodrow said in Let’s talk duke:
@Jethro said in Let’s talk duke:
Just guessing here, but I think we'll be 4 to 5 point favorites.
I would be shocked if that is the spread. I would guess Duke -2 or 3
We'll find out soon. Great to have you back, though. It's nice to see people crawl out of the woodwork and post.
Just guessing here, but I think we'll be 4 to 5 point favorites.
Zach was not playing within the flow of the game, and looked out of control. He's pressing, and it shows. You could see the stress in his face.
11 minutes last night. He needs 20 a game minimum. Let him make mistakes and screw up- he'll learn!
KU was favored by 24.5. Bettors that backed us got hosed on that last 3 by the Bison.
Zach...
@wissox said in Fargo Game Thread:
@Jethro Despite my inane rants don't forget Pettiford is doing this against low unelite non majors. Dejuan started in a national championship game for our team. I really don't think the case can be made for Pettiford based on these two games only.
I don't think anyone is asking Juan to take a lesser role. Admiring Pettiford's breakout doesn't detract from Juando. We all love Juando, and recognize his value to the team.
Immediately Bobby makes an amazing play.
I want to see us take control of the 2nd half. Let's go on a run.
This is a smart, fast team with tons of weapons. This is a team that defends very well. Lots to like...
McCullar and Grady's BB IQ is off the charts!
ND State was losing to Arkansas 34-26 at the half in their game.
I'm watching some elite qualities. The speed, the defensive toughness- it's rare we have this much turnover, and look this good this early. We might be on to sumthin'...
JALEN
Let's see some more MJ Rice...
Juan has picked up the energy, folks
By the end of the year, we'll be one of the toughest defenses in the country.
@BeddieKU23 said in Fargo Game Thread:
This defense really swarms. We have a lot of potential on that end
Dooley's back...
skunberg. how did he survive childhood with a name like that?
We don't look nearly as offensively challenged as it looked like preseason. Of course, we're not playing UNC.
McCullar has to quit waiting so long to get going.