@Lulufulu Please do Lulufulu.
RockChalkinTexas
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@HighEliteMajor I do. A link in the chain was missing. Throughout the season I've seen him continually up and helping from the sidelines as well as during huddles taking a player aside and offering constructive criticism or offering his views.
Calling him names when you know nothing about his onetime digression is not productive and frankly a low blow. Sure we all made fun of what the charge was but I don't think anyone stooped to calling him names.
I did say it was "JMO" and if you don't like my opinion then that's your prerogative.
No one player is responsible for a team loss. I could place blame on each one. I've just never been a "woulda, coulda, shoulda" fan. I realize people need to vent and some do it better than others in substance and in length.
Not an excuse, but there was a void the whole team felt without Snacks and his energy.
Have read all the critiques good and bad. I am who will look forward to what is coming up and be ready to support the team.
JMO.
Send that to Jesse.
What was with Selden? I saw Frank's dad there.
At least they now know what to expect when WV comes to AFH.
Be safe all in this crazy weather!
Shouldn't have let Staten drive to the rim.
@brooksmd Kelly?
@brooksmd Jamari threw it in.
@brooksmd Jamari
Even though we all kinda penciled this one is as an automatic loss early in the season, WVU has been on the downside what with all the fouls they have been making. Williams rehurt his hand in Saturday's game. I see a really close one with us pulling it out on the FT line.
Don't forget that WVU has to travel back after playing at ISU so we both are travelling with a short turn around. :-)
@wrwlumpy He sure did, and at very opportune times! Need him to come up with some steals Monday.
@wrwlumpy I have heard two confess to getting that wrong - Deano Gaudo and that other ESPN anchor with the funny name - Anesh?
Do you think Gotlieb went and saw OSU get beat by TCU? HA HA HA!
Headed outside = 78 degrees.
HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY FELLOW BUCKET HEADS.
RCJGKU
Good riddance Drew.
Even with Pants on Backwards calling the game and wanting us not to win.
18 for Kelly :-)
Smoke 'em if ya got 'em.
Snacks.
I'LL SHOOT 3 TO WIN COACH!
;-)
PE
1000 point man
**SERIES HISTORY **
• Saturday is the 27th all-time series meeting between Baylor and Kansas. Baylor trails 4-22 in the series.
•Baylor is 0-12 all-time in Lawrence with an average scoring margin of -15.9 points per game.
• Baylor has defeated Kansas in two of the last six meetings, winning vs. No 4 KU in Waco in 2013 and at the 2012 Big 12 Championship against No. 3 Kansas.
• Baylor was the nation's only team to defeat Kansas in both the 2011-12 and 2012-13 seasons.
• The Bears' other two wins vs. KU were on Feb. 12, 2001 in Waco and March 12, 2009 in Oklahoma City.
• Scott Drew, Fred Hoiberg, Travis Ford and Tom Izzo are the only coaches to defeat Kansas 3 times since 2008-09
@GonzoMan15 I posted this yesterday!
@Gunman Welcome and don't just be a lurker. We all share our thoughts - good, bad and indifferent :-)
http://www.widerightnattylite.com/2015/2/11/8021445/the-joy-frustration-of-being-second-best ↗ (for reading the comments to this article - see below)
The Joy & Frustration of Being Second Best
By Bitterwhiteguy @Bitterwhiteguy on Feb 11, 2015, 3:22p 21
Dear Cyclone friends, it's happening again. For the third year in a row, the Iowa State Cyclones seem to be on pace to come up just short in your quest to unseat the Kansas Jayhawks from the top of the Big 12 Conference. For the third year in a row, fan & media expectations for a cardinal & gold-clad usurper have been squashed under the downhill boulder of the Jayhawk juggernaut. The pride & appreciation of being a relevant program after a walk through the wilderness is mixed with the envy & frustration of being just a step behind the bluest of blue blood programs.
You love Mayor McDreamy and thank him for bringing the program back from the Clockwork Orange Greg McDermott Experiment, but quietly wonder if he's got the mojo it takes to sling stones at Goliath. It sucks, I know. Everyone in Austin knows, because you've basically become what the Texas Longhorns were for most of the 2000s: The Second Best Big 12 Team. For years, fans and media alike expected Texas to knock off Kansas, and Texas got achingly close a number of times(including sharing the crown twice). Many of the ambivalent attitudes espoused about the defensive prowess of The Shirtless Wonder - even money Georges Niang is taking the picture - were being said about Rick Barnes(shirtless photo not available) and his offensive issues.
Still, they never delivered the kill-shot that would have truly opened up the conference crown for other schools So here we are, a pair of skinny-fat women standing around at last call, wondering how we missed hooking up with Tom Hardy when he walked through the bar two hours ago. Sure, we're judging each other, running our own internal monologues about how the other obviously didn't deserve a chance and we should be the one combing his mustache with our hip flexors, but the reality is we're both at the bar together, and yet alone.
So what do we do about our common foe? How can we leverage our frenemy status to take out Basketball Voldemort? It's not like we could capture & burn alive a Jayhawk in some sort of ritual sacrifice because I MEAN WHO DOES THAT, THAT'S PATENTLY RIDICULOUS AND ONLY THE IDEA OF A CRAZY PERSON WITHOUT MORALS OR INTERNALIZED ETHICS also because the bird doesn't even exist, I checked. Allow me to throw around a few ideas.
1.Send the FBI an anonymous tip that Bill Self invented Silk Road.
2.Get GamerGate defenders to SWAT Bill Self's house on game day.
3 We could beat them on a basketball court multiple times in a season. (this was stricken through on the site but can't make it do it here). Right, sorry.
4.Fly Rick Barnes, Fred Hoiberg, & Pat Summit to England to create a 3-person coach baby capable of taking out the Kansas Jayhawks.
5.Stitch together a suit so Barnes & Hoiberg are literally joined at the hip, let them each coach one end of the floor.
6.Paint a dead pigeon blue, set it on fire. If a bucket of fried chicken worked in Major League, maybe this will work for us.
7.Create a clone army consisting of 3 Isaiah Taylors, 3 Jameel McKays, 3 Myles Turners, and 1 Georges Niang(because he can't be duplicated, am I right?).
8.Clone a dozen copies of Anna Kendrick, just because.
9.Destroy cloning machine before Kansas finds it.
10.Seriously, we don't need Self duplicating Mario Chalmers for the next 25 years.
11.On second thought, maybe the cloning machine is too powerful for any one person to have.
12.(I'm still keeping the Anna Kendrick clones.)
I'm open to suggestions, guys.
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From Twitter - Jason King @JasonKingBR · 13m13 minutes ago
Kansas fans are lucky to have @jessenewell of the Topeka CJ on the beat.
Dude just won THREE APSE awards. Unheard of.
@Crimsonorblue22 Suppose there will be lots of former Jayhawks there to see Perry get his 1000 points? I saw were BMac and Nick Collison were going to be there vs. Baylor.
@HighEliteMajor How many times did BOTH Miles Simon and Dave Flemming talk about Coach not liking the way the team was playing but that it was the way the team needed to play because that was a winning %? They repeatedly talked about this being a team that didn't have a rim protector and mentioned all the ones in the past. I must have heard that 3 times if not more. Miles even talked about Gundy and Jackson speaking of Brannen's shot being so pure and his game translating to the NBA when Dave Flemming admitted to have a "bromance" on Brannen because his shot was so pure.
From FoxSports.com on this very subject:
Memo to Bill Self: With this KU roster, it ain't fool's gold when it works
Sean Keeler
FOX Sports Kansas City
FEB 11, 2015 1:06a ET
So is it winning if your coach absolutely despises how you're doing it?
"It's fool's gold," Kansas patriach Bill Self told reporters late Tuesday night after his No. 8 Jayhawks rolled Texas Tech in Lubbock, 73-51. "You can't bank on making 55 percent or 50 percent of your threes."
He's right.
You can bank on 52.2 percent.
Over its past three league road games -- all wins -- KU (20-4, 9-2 Big 12) is 24-for-46 from beyond the arc.
In that same span, the Jayhawks are 47-106 inside the arc ... a rate of 44.3 percent.
Fool's gold works.
Self doesn't want to hear it.
"No matter what, you can score inside off the bounce, you can score off the pass, you can score it in transition or whatever," the coach continued. "But you've got to be able to score close to the basket. That's the name of the game, in my opinion, is getting easy baskets, and eliminating easy baskets. And we're not doing near a good enough job of doing that inside."
Self has 10 more Big 12 titles than the rest of us, and the man is quickly closing in on No. 11. He prefers method to madness, and if you don't like it, well, he'll just point to the banners hanging at Allen Fieldhouse. (Similar to calling "scoreboard," in any disagreement with coaches, pointing at the banners generally ends the debate.)
But here's the thing: His team -- which drained 11 of 18 treys in Lubbock and is 21-for-38 in its past two tilts from beyond the arc -- has him in a philosophical pickle. The Jayhawk Way -- proven, tested, true -- is to work from paint to perimeter, inside to out. The run sets up the pass.
Which is fine except, if we could stretch the football analogy a bit, this KU team can't run the ball for squat.
Coming in to Tuesday, the Jayhawks ranked 259th nationally in 2-point shooting percentage (45.5), 137th in effective field-goal percentage (49.eight), 249th in 3-point attempts per game (16.eight) ... and 14th in 3-point percentage (40.2).
Self has seven players among the top nine in his rotation who are completely comfortable with the 3-point shot, and six of those seven went to Texas Tech having made more than 34 percent of their attempts from beyond the arc, and six with at least a dozen makes through the season's first 23 games.
These Jayhawks defend as a unit, scrap as a unit, better than each of Self's past two KU teams. He likes that. But they're also the worst finishing squad under the rim that he's had in ages, maybe the worst over a venerated 12 seasons in Lawrence, a red-headed stepchild that he loves but can't quite tame.
Imagine Whitey Herzog content to sit on his backside, just waiting to be bailed out by the 3-run homer. Or another football analogy, if you like: KU is the anti-Chiefs. Imagine handing Andy Reid a roster with Andrew Luck in his prime under center, four or five stud wideouts and a solid, but unspectacular, tailback. Even if Big Red wanted to run 33 times a game, if he did, he'd be out of work by Week 11.
That's the Jayhawks. Self is Vince Lombardi, and the idea of using slants and jailbreak screens and dinks and dunks to set up the run game gives him a 10-ton migraine.
He is what he is. And they are what they are.
Of the Jayhawks' first four field goals of the contest Tuesday, three were treys. 13-4, KU.
Of the Jayhawks' first four field goals in the second half, three were treys. 40-27, KU.
Fool's good works.
"Forty-one percent of our attempts (were) threes," Self continued. "Which is too many."
He's right, and in a perfect world, there's a balance, multiple dimensions, multiple threats from multiple corners of the floor.
But this isn't a perfect world. And this is far from a perfect roster. We already know the internal debate, the one eating at hole in his gut, the one question no coach wants to have to answer for in the postgame news conference. What happens when we come out and whiff on our first six from beyond the arc?
That's easy: Keep shooting.
John Gasaway
On hoops and lesser matters
Bill Self cares not for your paeans to stylistic flexibility
Big 12
W-L Pace PPP Opp. PPP EM
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Oklahoma 8-4 66.9 1.07 0.94 +0.13
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Kansas 8-2 68.2 1.08 0.96 +0.12
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Baylor 6-5 63.1 1.07 1.01 +0.06
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Iowa State 7-4 70.0 1.11 1.05 +0.06
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Oklahoma State 7-5 62.9 0.99 0.96 +0.03
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West Virginia 6-4 72.1 0.99 0.98 +0.01
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Texas 4-6 63.6 1.01 1.04 -0.03
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Kansas State 5-6 60.3 0.96 1.01 -0.05
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TCU 1-9 65.8 0.92 1.03 -0.11
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Texas Tech 2-9 63.0 0.85 1.11 -0.26
AVG. 65.6 1.01
This season Jesse Newell of the Topeka Capital Journal has posed an interesting question: Why doesn’t Kansas shoot more threes? In Big 12 play the Jayhawks lead the league in three-point accuracy while clocking in at a solid but by no means dazzling No. 3 in terms of success inside the arc. Yet despite those two numbers, Kansas ranks No. 8 in the conference in the share of field goal attempts it launches from beyond the arc. Only Kansas State and TCU are less likely to shoot a three.
Self says this is simply a matter of “game situations.” Well, over the last five years those game situations sure have been remarkably uniform whenever he shows up to coach….
Staying the course
3FGA/FGA
Variation
Bill Self 1.31
Bob Huggins 1.35
Fran McCaffery 1.56
Leonard Hamilton 1.66
Tad Boyle 1.74
Average 3.66
Major-conference games only, 2011-15
By my count there are 38 coaches who have been in their present major-conference gigs now for five seasons, and of those guys Self ranks No. 1 in three-point stylistic consistency. (Bob Huggins is so close behind on this measure he might fairly be called 1a, and before the season is out he may overtake Self.) Come what may Kansas will devote 30 percent of its shots to tries from beyond the arc. No more, no less.
Self has won 10 Big 12 titles in a row, so maybe he’s on to something with this shot selection auto-pilot. Or perhaps not fretting about his team’s shot mix frees him up to concentrate on weightier matters. There is also the small fact that KU has a very good offense, currently ranked No. 2 (behind only Iowa State) in the league in terms of points scored per possession.
I’m not saying Self is wrong to shoot so few threes. I am saying that Self quite plainly challenges our habit of praising coaches for being flexible, for changing to meet new conditions, and for adapting to the players they have on hand. In this one instance, at least, Self is the antithesis of all those qualities. And it works for him.
Article here from Rustin Dodd, KC Star (the tables got lost in copying but posted link at bottom):
How Kansas remade itself into the Big 12 favorite again
By RUSTIN DODDThe Kansas City Star
02/03/2015 3:03 PM 02/03/2015 3:09 PM
“Basketball can be summed up very easily: If you’re good, you get easy baskets.” — Bill Self
This is Bill Self talking about basketball. These particular words came in the middle of October. Self sat at a table at Big 12 media day in Kansas City. Somebody asked him about his offensive philosophy, why he takes so much pride in pounding the ball inside and scoring at the rim. Self paused for a moment, like the question had been set up on tee. Then he answered.
Self talks about basketball a lot, of course. When you are a future Hall of Fame coach with two Final Fours and 10 Big 12 titles on your resume, people are always asking you to reveal little parts of the machine, to explain this adjustment or that philosophy, to break down this deficiency or that strength.
For the past 10 seasons, the Kansas Jayhawks have won the Big 12 regular season championship, and if you ask Self to explain the Streak, you’ll probably hear him describe the last decade with one word: Toughness.
In some ways, it’s a pretty vague way to describe the relentless winning that has taken place in Lawrence over the last 10 seasons. Toughness? What does that mean anyway. In another way, it makes perfect sense. If you are a tough team, Self believes, you will find a way to score easy baskets. If you are a tough team, you will find a way to stop other teams from scoring those easy baskets against you.
This is the way Self has coached for more than a decade in Lawrence. It’s also the reason why this Kansas basketball season has been so fascinating, this season so intriguing. The coach that thrives on easy baskets has a basketball team that is not particularly good at scoring them. The Jayhawks are shooting just 45.9 percent from inside the three-point line, which ranks 239th in the country and is the worst mark under Self by a substantial amount. (The previous low from two-point range was 50.8 in 2005-06.)
So for most of November and December, the question hung over the Kansas program. Could Bill Self adjust? Could the Jayhawks win an 11th straight Big 12 title without a consistent low-post scoring threat? Could Kansas be Kansas — without the easy baskets?
“We’re kind of a weird team,” Self says. “We have to score points on the block by driving it. We don’t score it by throwing it inside and guys scoring it.”
By now, you know most of this story. No. 8 Kansas is 19-3 overall and 8-1 in the Big 12 after an 89-76 victory over Iowa State on Monday night. The Jayhawks have a 1 ½-game lead in the Big 12 race, barreling toward another Big 12 title, and the conventional wisdom would be to assume that Self has found a way to adapt and evolve; that the Jayhawks have remade themselves as the machine rolls on, moving toward another high seed in the NCAA tournament.
Here’s the thing: It’s only partially true. The Jayhawks are not pounding the ball inside as they have in the past. They are not scoring at the rim and overwhelming opponents with size and strength. But in other ways, Kansas isn’t too far away from its template of success — a template created by some of Self’s best teams at Kansas.
Yes, the Jayhawks are more reliant on three-pointers for scoring than they have been in eight years. But stylistically, they’re still shooting about the same number of threes — percentagewise — that they have for most of Self’s tenure. In fact, even after making 10 of 21 from three-point range on Monday night, they’re only hoisting slightly more threes — again, percentagewise — than they did last season.
After 22 games, the Jayhawks have taken 29.4 percent of their shots from behind the three-point line. That ranks 289th in the country and is essentially the same as last season (28.6 percent). (In conference play, the number has increased only marginally, to 29.9 percent.)
The difference, to this point: Kansas is making 39.6 percent of its threes, and as a result, the Jayhawks are getting more than 27 percent of their scoring from behind the arc. Last year, just 20.5 percent of its scoring came from the outside.
Here’s a look at Kansas’ three-point shooting numbers over the last eight seasons:
Year 3P% 3PA% % points off 3s*
2014-15 39.629.427.2
2013-1434.128.620.5
2012-1336.429.023.3
2011-1234.529.623.2
2010-1138.232.426.4
2009-1040.430.726.8
2008-0936.730.725.0
2007-0839.729.325.1
** Percentage of Kansas’ field-goal attempts from behind the three-point line
*** Percentage of Kansas’ points off three-pointers
A couple of quick takeaways:
▪ 1. In the last eight seasons, four Kansas teams actually took a greater percentage of shots from three-point range than this current team.
▪ 2. Self, of course, has made some adjustments during conference play. The Jayhawks are playing through their guards more, letting Frank Mason and Devonte’ Graham create offense off the dribble and in Kansas’ three-man weave offense on the perimeter. The Kansas staff also has made a concerted effort to get forwards Perry Ellis and Jamari Traylor opportunities to drive from the perimeter. And perhaps most importantly, sophomore Brannen Greene has become a more permanent part of the rotation, making 62.5 percent (15 of 24) from three-point range.
The Jayhawks are making shots from three, and playing through their guards and wings, covering up for their lack of inside game. But to this point, the Jayhawks haven’t exactly started bombing away from deep. But then again, if they keep making threes at a 40-percent clip, maybe they should.
“We kind of found a way to win some games where we’ve kind of done it differently than the way we practice all the time, and what we emphasize,” Self said on Monday. “And tonight was one of those nights. If we don’t make some shots, who knows if we’d have been in the position we were in late.”
The player of the game
Brannen Greene continued his torrid stretch of outside shooting, hitting two of three from three-point range. So let’s update Greene’s run at the KU single-season record for three-point percentage. Greene needs a minimum of 60 attempts to qualify — he should get there in the next game or two — and he surged ahead of Kirk Hinrich’s record (50.5 percent) on Monday.
RankPlayerYear3PFG%Makes/attempts
1Brannen Greene2014-1550.929-57
2Kirk Hinrich2000-0150.555-109
3Aaron Miles2004-0550.040-80
4Jeff Gueldner1989-9048.669-142
5Kirk Hinrich2001-0247.866-138
6Tyrel Reed2009-1047.344-93
7Brandon Rush2005-0647.250-106
8Mario Chalmers2007-0846.873-156
9Paul Pierce1996-9746.533-71
The stat of the game
Frank Mason was in double-figures for the 19th straight game, finishing with 12 points and eight assists.
To reach Rustin Dodd, call 816-234-4937 or send email to rdodd@kcstar.com. Follow him on Twitter @rustindodd.
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/campus-corner/article9108656.html#storylink=cpy ↗
From the Austin-American Statesman this morning. I'll tell you again that fans want a change and are tired of Barnes getting all that talent and then not doing anything with it.
**By Brian Davis - American-Statesman Staff **
Since Texas officials are in a mood to try new things, they should encourage fans to skip the first half completely. Just stay in the parking lot or Burnt Orange Room.
Most of them miss the first four minutes anyway, so what’s another 16? Here lately, the first 20 minutes are just plain atrocious.
Texas followed the same script Wednesday night against Oklahoma State. Watching the Horns pile up 13 turnovers and fall behind by 15 points, you would’ve thought they had given up on coach Rick Barnes completely.
The 25th-ranked Longhorns (14 - eight) fell to a frustrating 3-6 in the Big 12 standings.
Hundreds of Texas fans couldn’t wait to bolt, turning their backs and leaving during the post-game rendition of “The Eyes of Texas.”
“Why do I worry? I don’t even know if I’m going to live tomorrow,” a philosophical Barnes said. “So why am I going to worry? I’ve got to worry about one day at a time. Can’t think about a month down the road.”
After last week's loss to Baylor by 23, they didn't even post an article on TexasSports.com about it.
Take the Spurs in San Antonio. No major state college. They are the only game in town. Austin is just 1-1/2 hours away while Houston is 3 hours away. They have ticket packages so a family of 4 can afford some of the cheaper seats that would otherwise go unsold. Lots of people in Austin are season ticket holders for the Spurs and they get the added bonus of seeing their farm team too here in Austin. Factor in the Spurs and the Rockets drawing fans and then add the Mavericks. All successful. However, Texas is unusual because of its size and population that rivals maybe the NY/Boston/Phily/NJ areas.
All that said, UT basketball sits way behind UT football - always has and always will. I believe that to be based on the product that is produced. Even with Durant here that one year they never sold out. Fans go to the games here to be seen and not really watch and participate in the games like the fans do for KU, UNC and Dookies.
@KUSTEVE ESPN didn't even have our win over ISU as the lead on the BBALL website. They premiered the Virginia win. So different than the over the top crap they had when ISU beat us.
@Crimsonorblue22 Laughable. Rupp wasn't even sold out last night.
Today on Katz Korner at 1 pm on @ESPNU: @KUAthletics Self, @UCLAAthletics Alford, @PCAthletics Cooley, @TexasMBB Barnes, @UKCoachCalipari.
So what does Andy Katz ask Rick Barnes and why waste the time with him?
Katz: Rick, tell us how it feels to be Bill Self's *#TCH.
Barnes. Andy, let me tell you. I've gotten used to it these last eight years. Maybe that is a better question for Bruce Weber.
All Fun -- No Malice.
Audio of Bob Davis & Greg Gurley--fun to hear them call the highlights!
https://soundcloud.com/img-audio/jayhawk-img-bob-davis-ku-isu-mbb-highlights-2-2-15 ↗
3 Things:
PASSION: Give the whole team credit for really wanting this game and putting in the hard work after the quick turn-around from the kitties. :-)
EFFORT: All the players gave everything they had and got to it on both ends. Held ISU far below its Big 12-leading 49.1 field goal % on the season. :-)
SHOTS: 5 players in double-figures for the 5th time this season. 4th game of the year over 50% shooting. :-)
Now they will get some well-deserved rest and have plenty of time to get ready for Okie State.
Great Game Jayhawks!
Also loved some of the signs in the crowd --
Hilton Magic Show with CANCELLED written across it was a classic.
I think it will be a closer game throughout with us taking it 76-71.
Hawk to Rock Frank Mason. Believe he gets around Foster and gets the drives to the hoops.
Jamari seemed way taller than Cliff to me after UT game.
@wrwlumpy
Frank Mason Jr. is how he signed my picture.
@wrwlumpy Are you going to post some of them here on the board? Feel free to.
@wrwlumpy Yes live here. Will send when I get back from my lunch.
@drgnslayr Texas A & M has that. Rick (Gov. Ooops) Perry got a D in the class he took on that if I remember correctly.
P.S. About 30 some tomato seedlings have sprouted this past week with the temps up in the high 70's.
@wrwlumpy I said b/4 that if you emailed me I could send you some pictures I took at the UT game so you could post them.
@wrwlumpy And notice my boyfriend is wearing glasses!
@wrwlumpy Thanks. I missed the whole first half after downing some Nyquil. Fighting a bad cold myself. I must have picked it up at the game. Know how he feels. Sucks to be sick.
@wrwlumpy We that don't have a subscription to the KC Star can't view that article. I briefly saw the headline. Can you paste in here for us?
When did Bruce Weber start wearing a fur coat? ;-)
@wrwlumpy Yes. Something wrong with that? Everyone fawned all over the red head longhorn girl last week.
I wouldn't mind seeing Kelly in those shorty shorts:-)
The Austin paper has a weekly power poll. Here's what they put about us and Texas.
No 1. Jayhawks rule roost again after dealing out capital punishment to Longhorns in Austin.
No. 5. Guess we will have to wait another year, or 10, for the Longhorns to unseat King Kansas.
ROCK CHALK!