I'll take Gillispie switching onto Dotson every time in the PnR
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Any word on why Tristan hasn't played today? Injury or just been so bad lately he's unplayable right now?
Baylor can't stop the pick and roll with Doke today.
Court awareness Braun! One more inch and it's a 3.
Glad they didn't call that flop
Hack a Doke has begun
I like this, two quickies on Vital.
Refs also need to even out the calls. That was 8 on 5 most of the half. Vital should've had several more fouls called on him.
How the refs call the second half probably dictates who wins today.
Bill wanted to go 2-1 at the end and KU didn't do it. Self kept screaming GO to Dotson with 45 seconds left and Dotson just held it. Villanova end game Dotson made an appearance at the end of this half.
Damn Doke!
That wasn't goal tending.
How did Dave get called and Doke hasn't been yet?
Doke is getting everyone a lot of good looks with his screens and picks today so far.
Momma Garrett was going crazy after that 3
Moss starting over Braun today.
Michael Jankovich also no longer in his walking boot and is warming up along with the other walk ons.
Brace is off Mitch's wrist and he and Jalen are the first two out getting some shots up.
@nuleafjhawk said in More than we can BEARS...:
@Texas-Hawk-10 It's really not. It could be saying they're OK. They decent. Maybe I should have said "Great" instead of "Good". Would we be having this conversation now if I had done that? Is anyone willing to step out into the abyss and say he's a Great coach?
Then most people would say that coach was okay or decent if they meant that instead of not good. I don't ever recall using the phrase "not good" to describe okay, decent, average or anything along those lines. Every time I've used that phrase or heard other's use "not good", it was to say whatever was being talked about was bad without saying it was bad.
@nuleafjhawk Saying someone is not a good coach is pretty strongly implying that they are a bad coach.
Scott Drew is a good coach. He has a .603 career winning percentage at Baylor, including those first 3 years when he was dealing with the aftermath of the Dave Bliss scandal. In Drew's third season at Baylor, they were banned from playing a non-conference schedule because of that fallout. Year 4 is when Drew started to have any hope of success at Baylor because that's when harshest sanctions were over with and he could begin actually building a program.
Most programs would be thrilled with a coach that makes the NCAA tournament essentially 70% of the time.
Scott Drew wouldn't be near the top of my wishlist for Self replacement's, but there's also plenty of worse options out there. I would consider him to be in the 20-25 range for top coaches. He's definitely not an elite coach because the consistency isn't there, but he's by no means a bad coach.
@BeddieKU23 said in Doke Doke Doke Doke Doke:
If Dotson ends the season as Big 12 POY, 1st team All American and final 4 MVP, delivers a title do you think he gets up there if he expectedly left after the season?
Final Four MOP was an original criteria and consensus 1st team All-American is part of the expanded criteria. Since Marcus just went up, I'm guessing conference POY is now part of the criteria as well now.
I'm torn on that one because Marcus would've been the only KU player to win Big 8/12 POY and not be in the rafters. KU has had a surprisingly low number of conference POY's from what I've found.
1956-57 was the first year the Big 8/12 POY was given and was not awarded between the 1959-60 to 1966-67 season's. Here is the list of KU players to win the award:
Dave Robisch x2 (1970, 1971)
Bud Stallworth (1972)
Danny Manning x3 (1986-1988)
Jacque Vaughn (1996)
Raef LaFrentz x2 (1997, 1998)
Drew Gooden (2002)
Nick Collision (2003)
Wayne Simien (2005)
Marcus Morris (2011)
Thomas Robinson (2012)
Frank Mason (2017)
Devonte Graham (2018)
That's only 12 different KU players to win conference POY so I would consider that a big achievement considering KU's history and some names that never won the award like Paul Pierce or Sherron Collins that a lot of people would probably assume won that award at some point. All those other names besides Marcus are either already in the rafters or will go up one day so I don't have a huge issue with it, but get the argument against him.
@Bwag said in WeatherWAXED Game Thread:
So #1 v #3 is an ESPN 11:00 am slot game. Yeah, makes sense.
Unlike college football where the schedule is made 2-3 weeks out, the college basketball TV schedule is pretty much set before the season starts.
@kjayhawks said in Better from behind?:
It will be interesting to see if Self starts Moss or Braun. I think Moss will continue to start going forward because he had more experience and seems better on the defensive end. But we need a Braun to aggressive like he was tonight from here on out.
I like the current rotation of starting Braun to open the game and starting Moss in the second half.
I cannot wait for Saturday. I love Waco and I'm driving up Friday night for the game. I need to find out the Gameday info, but I'm assuming it'll be a packed house inside Ferrell Center for Gameday because of the tip time.
Ginger for 3!!!!
Walk ons coming in!
@FarmerJayhawk said in WeatherWAXED Game Thread:
Enaruna is also just like 18 and a half. Just a pup.
And not American. It's an adjustment from the European style to American basketball.
@BeddieKU23 said in WeatherWAXED Game Thread:
@BShark said in WeatherWAXED Game Thread:
Enaruna tries very hard, the problem is he just has no idea what he is doing. I hope he sticks it out at KU because once everything clicks he will be good.
He really does give effort just seems sped up from lack of pt. Just needs time in the lab working on skill development and bbq
It's the same issue as McCormack last season.
@chriz said in WeatherWAXED Game Thread:
Pat's been to a game hasn't he?
Pretty sure he was at the Tech game sitting behind the Tech bench of course.
@BShark said in WeatherWAXED Game Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I think he has it in him.
Also in regards to your other post, I don't think he is a McD in most classes but obviously, he has some skills.
I'm thinking he was added late after a couple of injuries or pull outs. But yeah, he's probably one of the lowest rates players to play in that game.
@Bwag said in WeatherWAXED Game Thread:
@approxinfinity said in WeatherWAXED Game Thread:
Enaruna looks fired up and ready to go.
Went to ground fast to get that one
His motor has never been his issue this season fortunately.
@DanR said in WeatherWAXED Game Thread:
if big Dave can do all the little things Lucas did, plus not miss layups, he'll he fun to watch
He needs to be a bigger scoring threat than Lucas though. Ideally McCormack is the 2nd or 3rd leading scorer next season.
@wissox said in WeatherWAXED Game Thread:
@BShark We're going to depend on him a lot next year. He does have a good shot. He was a 5 star I think, so he should know how to shoot!
I think he was a 4 star, but he was a McDonald's All-American so a highly regarded player either way.
That crash was scary as hell. Newman got hit on the driver's side while his car was upside down. 20 years ago and he would've been killed by that crash, it's crazy how far the safety of racecars have come. Probably the biggest legacy of Dale Earnhardt's death was the push for safety improvement in auto racing.
@BeddieKU23 said in WeatherWAXED Game Thread:
David never saw a ball he didnt watch to shoot
I'd rather deal with that than someone who's too passive when it comes to shooting.
Where does the twins mom live now?
@BShark said in WeatherWAXED Game Thread:
@Crimsonorblue22 said in WeatherWAXED Game Thread:
Wish we could've seen half time
If this pops up on youtube or anywhere I will be sure to post it. Will be looking.
Probably can find it on Twitter now. I'm sure KU's social media will have the videos as well.
@DanR said in WeatherWAXED Game Thread:
I guess we're not going to come out flat tonight as people worried
At least offensively.
Damn Doke!!!
Heat check🔥🔥🔥
I'm glad we're getting our defensive clunker out of the way against a team we can still beat when playing our D game.
@DanR said in WeatherWAXED Game Thread:
Drew is due for his usual meltdown
That meltdown should happen Saturday and not tomorrow.
9-12 from 3 in the 1st half and down double digits, that's crazy.
@chriz said in WeatherWAXED Game Thread:
@DanR said in WeatherWAXED Game Thread:
What the hell does "hands of a safe cracker" even mean?
lol who said that?!
Fran after Garrett's last steal.
@wissox said in WeatherWAXED Game Thread:
Doke has missed more FT's than shots from the field this year.
To be fair to Doke, FT's are deeper shots than what he shoots from the field so it's not surprising.
ISU was inspired by Garrett's offensive performance from Saturday.
@chriz said in WeatherWAXED Game Thread:
love the energy on the offensive side, not sure why it's not showing up on D
It is, ISU is just hitting shots right now. Doubtful they stay that hot all night.
Get you some frosh!