Vick with the ole defense.
Texas Hawk 10
9941 posts
Dotson not starting the half well.
DanR said:
Sciambi usually paired with Bill Walton. I guess Walton didn't want to travel to the little apple in February.
Sciambi does a lot of games with Fran as well.
tundrahok said:
Did Lightfoot live in KS as a kid?
Born in KC, moved to Arizona as a little kid.
DanR said:
I think I remember Chauncey scoring like 40 points in at least one game in AFH West. And lost. He seems to have blocked his college playing days from his mind, which I don't blame him for, because those CU teams were pretty bad.
Colorado finished 2nd in the Big 12 in Billups senior year.
When I saw Van Gundy announcing, I thought it was Jeff. Jeff is a very good and entertaining analyst. I don't think Billups does commentary very often which would explain why he's so awkward. I think he's usually a studio guy.
I'll take a halftime lead after that start.
Mitch, come on man!
@Crimsonorblue22 I believe they've called 3 apiece.
6 charges, wow!
Moore playing very good so far.
approxinfinity said:
Was there a foul there? Wasnt he 3 feet away?
Maybe not, but Agbaji put himself in a bad spot by reaching though.
nuleafjhawk said:
I've seen more charge calls than I've seen in a week in the NBA (ONE OF THE ANNOUNCERS)
You can go a week of college ball as well and not see this many as well.
mayjay said:
Texas Hawk 10 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Grimes is the worst defender I've seen
Here's you're original comment I responded to. You said nothing about offense. So again, Brannen Greene was worse defender than Grimes.
Hmmmmm.....could Greene actually ever have been considered a defender?
No, pretty sure it took until late sophomore year or junior year to record his first steal.
Moore needs to run the show tonight and keep Dotson off the ball as much as possible to limit turnovers and use Dotson's speed and quickness to get him going downhill.
BeddieKU23 said:
Grimes is the worst defender I've seen
Here's you're original comment I responded to. You said nothing about offense. So again, Brannen Greene was worse defender than Grimes.
BeddieKU23 said:
Grimes is the worst defender I've seen
Brannen Greene says hi.
@Kcmatt7 That doesn't mean you legalize something. It means you figure out a way to enforce your rules. As long as the NCAA considers itself amateur sports, they need to figure out a way to enforce their amateurism rules.
I think that's 3 times already for the F-KU chant. Keep it classy Silo Tech!
@Kcmatt7 Yes, enforcement is a problem because the NCAA has a history of not enforcing their own rules equally across the board. That's an issue.
Kcmatt7 said:
dylans said:
@Kcmatt7 How about just enforcing the rules on the books? Seems like that would make for an even playing field. I’m not of the opinion enough people committing a crime should make it legal.
And here begins the slippery slope of your core beliefs vs mine and I don’t want to go down that road. It likely doesn’t end cordially or belong here so that’s where I’ll leave it.
Cheers
Do you not think laws should ever change?
Legalizing something because you suck at enforcing it is a bad reason to legalize something.
HighEliteMajor said:
Who in their right mind would rather coach Texas CBB than Kansas?
Someone who is an alum of Texas like Beard. Rick Barnes also showed you can win huge at Texas so it wouldn't shock me to see Beard in Austin very soon since their new arena opens in 2021.
It's the same reason why the Self to OSU rumors were common early in Self's tenure.
@HighEliteMajor Here's the dynamic with Moore in while Garrett was out, Moore mostly ran point with Dotson off the ball. Dotson will be a very good PG as he continues to develop, but I think the reason the offense look so much better against Tech was Dotson played off the ball a lot in that game.
I think this team needs to play with Dotson off the ball as much as possible this year. Dotson's the best shooter on the team, but he can't create his own shot yet. Getting Dotson off the ball allowed him to use his quickness and athleticism to get open looks and create open looks for others. This is why Garrett needs to run point a lot more as well. Garrett and Moore are both very good at protecting the ball and Garrett at point forces defenses to guard him and not sag off of him.
West Virginia is no showing tonight at Tech.
Parker was originally committed to Texas Tech. Decommitted when Emmett Jones was let. Jones was his HS coach at South Oak Cliff where Parker went.
BShark said:
@KUSTEVE The passing seemed a lot better today, plus guys made shots. Now due to the passing many of the looks were fairly open but still...
This is the key right here regardless of Garrett's status. KU mostly made good passes today that had intent and kept moving it until someone had an open look. This is what this team needs right now and what they need to do in Manhattan to win there.
My second favorite stat today is the Dedric Lawson would've beaten NC State by himself today.
My favorite stat today was 19 assists on 27 made FG's for KU. KU was passing the ball much better than they have been today and that was a big reason for so many easy shots at the basket and open looks from 3.
NC State and Virginia Tech set college basketball back to the Stone Ages today. I thought that 47-24 score was at halftime when I saw it, not the final.
@HighEliteMajor Garrett has the lowest TO% among the guards which is why I've been advocating him running point over Dotson for awhile now. Garrett running point does two things in my opinion.
First, it forces defenses to guard him because he's running the show so it masks his poor shooting to an extent.
Second, it would allow Self to run action to get Dotson better looks, including more 3 point looks which KU desperately needs since Dotson is knocking those down at a 40% clip. I'd love to see Dotson get to where he's taking 7-8 shots from 3 per game and moving him off the ball would allow him to take advantage of his speed and quickness to get those open looks.
Among college coaches, Chris Beard would be near the top of the list right now. I agree with @wissox about Wade at LSU being worth a look. Chris Mack at Louisville would be another interesting name considering his success at Xavier. Nate Oats at Buffalo would be a name to look out for as well.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@Texas-Hawk-10 is this new about shoe reps being called boosters?
I have no idea and I haven't seen anything about why the NCAA considers Gassnola a booster.
I have no idea who I would run as the second PG today. I would honestly lean towards Moore because he has the second lowest TO% among the guards just behind Garrett at 13.2%. This is likely going to be a low possession game so that would be the edge I would give for this game. In a faster game, I would go with Grimes because TO's wouldn't be as big. In a low possession game like this figures to be, limiting TO's is going to be hugely important and protecting the ball is one thing Moore is good at.
@Crimsonorblue22 The NCAA isn't a court room or the legal system. Due process doesn't apply to them when investigating schools and athletes. With the NCAA, it's guilty until proven innocent. It would be up to KU to prove what did or did not happen. Gassnola's testimony about the $60,000 payment from Under Armour and his attempting to pay $20,000 to get out from that deal are pretty damning pieces of evidence against Silvio's eligibility.
The Cam rule absolutely sucks, but it's the current rules of the NCAA.
The part that's troubling for KU is Gassnola being labeled a KU booster. That's what KU is going to be fighting at this point because that's where the serious NCAA sanctions would come from. If Silvio's punishment gets reduced as a result, that's great, but KU's focus in fighting this will be on Gassnola and his label as a booster.
kjayhawks said:
@Texas-Hawk-10 you could be right but if this case goes to court, you have to prove it. If the NCAA cant prove it, they look silly
Why would KU sue though at this point? By the time a jury reached a verdict, Silvio would be long gone from KU. If the NCAA hands out further punishment to KU, then KU could possibly sue the NCAA over those penalties, but it won't happen to get Silvio reinstated because Silvio wouldn't benefit from it unless he's planning on sticking around which is extremely unlikely at this point.
@Crimsonorblue22 None of those transactions he received are going to be through traditional methods of receiving payments. Fenny knew what he was doing was against NCAA rules and so the money would likely be paid to him through methods that are not traceable by the NCAA like wire transfers under different names that don't directly tie Fenny to that money. Fenny then has the ability to tell the NCAA they can check all his accounts and they'll never find the $60,000 because it's likely in a secret account under a different name.
@Crimsonorblue22 I think he's full of half truths and trying to cover his own ass. He doesn't genuinely care about Silvio or any other kids he's "mentored". He's only about what he can get out of those arrangements.
@jayhawkcsg Fenny is the one full of crap in this case. He's not stupid enough to leave a paper trail of the money he got from Under Armour.
@Crimsonorblue22 The NCAA isn't a court of law though and they only need enough circumstantial evidence to suspect something happened to issue a punishment.
@nwhawkfan Louisville and UConn haven't been in the same conference for 5 years. UConn is still undefeated in AAC play.
McCormack still fouls at a pretty high rate. Playing him more minutes isn't going to help yet because of that. He picks up a couple quick fouls and is out of the game 4 minutes in, if that.
I'm also willing to be Dave still looks pretty sped up in practice which is why Self hasn't played him more in games yet. If that light comes on for Dave and he slows it down, then we'll probably see his minutes increase because his rebounding is desperately needed.
I will say that at this time last year, nobody was really expecting much from KU either. They were 18-4 and 7-2 in league play and were getting ready to drop 2 of 3 to bad OSU and Baylor teams.
It's possible this team turns it around like last year did, but that was a different group of kids that were much more mature, experienced, and higher IQ's than this group.
I still think Sweet 16 is the ceiling for this team because there's just too many weaknesses on this team this year. Nkw we're fatigue and the inability to score become issues as well as rebounding, passing, and shooting.
The Big 12 is just bad overall this year. Tech went on a mini losing streak, KSU lost to a really bad TAMU team with Wade playing so they could lose to anyone as well and probably will drop a couple they shouldn't as well.
Scott Drew and Baylor are probably playing the best of anybody in the league right now winning 6 in a row after dropping their first two B12 games.
This is just a very low BBIQ team.
Why is Lawson taking that shot?
KU's press is garbage. There should only be one open guy, not three. A d Lawson has to stay back to keep that from happening.
Kcmatt7 said:
Texas Hawk 10 said:
BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
BShark said:
approxinfinity said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Woodrow said:
approxinfinity said:
Who were we recruitng still when LV decided to come back?
Romeo Langford
Who wouldn’t have helped this team other than he drives the ball and can actually finish
Ok. So we would have had one less 3 point shooter. Puzzling. I guess we were all in on playing inside out? Also puzzling.
Well, the assumption was that Grimes and Moore could shoot.
And KJ and Dedric would at least be good enough shooters to spread the floor
I was always suspicious about this.
Why suspicious. They were both bad shooters at Memphis. The sub 30% from Dedric wasn't a fluke.
Well in theory they’d both have a year off to improve and they would get better looks playing with better players than being the only two who shot.
Neither were good shooters to begin with. They're both Garrett levels of bad from deep.
BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
BShark said:
approxinfinity said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Woodrow said:
approxinfinity said:
Who were we recruitng still when LV decided to come back?
Romeo Langford
Who wouldn’t have helped this team other than he drives the ball and can actually finish
Ok. So we would have had one less 3 point shooter. Puzzling. I guess we were all in on playing inside out? Also puzzling.
Well, the assumption was that Grimes and Moore could shoot.
And KJ and Dedric would at least be good enough shooters to spread the floor
I was always suspicious about this.
Why suspicious. They were both bad shooters at Memphis. The sub 30% from Dedric wasn't a fluke.
truehawk93 said:
kjayhawks said:
Wow, I'm just gonna be honest I've been watching KU for over 25 years. This maybe the worst game we have ever played in that span.
By way far the worst
Topeka YMCA game against TCU was worse than this. ISU this year was also worse than this.