South Carolina showing they are by far the best team in the country as they are absolutely destroying LSU today.
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Great women's game today as the last two undefeated teams in D1 (men or women) meet up in Columbia, SC as #3 LSU takes on #1 South Carolina. Aliyah Boston and Angel Reese are probably the two best players in women's basketball this year. Do yourselves a favor and watch this game.
@BShark said in Bubble Watch:
Was Duke a one coach "program"?
My column:
They were a pretty strong program even before Ratface. 4 Final Fours in 15 years during the 60's and 70's.
@kjayhawks said in Other games:
Fizzou hits a half court shot at the buzzer to beat Tennessee
Back to back games Tennessee has lost by 1 because the opponent hit a 3 at the buzzer.
@BeddieKU23 said in Other games:
Duke loses in OT
And got screwed at the end of regulation. Filipowski got fouled on a drive to the basket, but refs ruled the foul happened after the buzzer when it actually happened before the clock expired. Not complaining because it's to see Duke actually get screwed by the refs for once.
KU women got an 11 point win in Lubbock today to get back to .500 in Big 12 play. Looking good for the women to get another at large bid this year.
@stoptheflop said in Chef Dick vs Conference Traitors Game Thread:
KU only shot 10 3s and made 5. Is that enough 3s? I watched at a sports bar, so I didn't/couldn't pay attention to OU's defense. Why so few 3s?
Yes, because the style of play today wasn't suited for KU jacking 3's all game. OU's defense was terrible today and KU was pretty much able to get whatever they wanted at the rim after the slow start. If you're getting a bunch of easy baskets at the rim, there's not much reason to shoot a lot of 3's. KU was probably near 70% from the field from 2 after the slow start. To be that efficient from 3, you'd have to make over 45% and that's very rarely ever going to happen at a high volume.
KU took what the defense gave them and that's how it should be every game.
@Jethro said in Chef Dick vs Conference Traitors Game Thread:
Ok, I officially love Jay Wright. Speaks so highly of coach and our program. contrast that with the little know it all Frannie.
Jay Wright has always been a class act. There's a reason he was always at the top of a lot people's list to replace Self if Self ever went to the NBA. We also ended his career too.
Jank!!!
Looks like I missed a good one today. Not disappointed though since it was because my 8th grade team won a district championship today! This has been a good day so far!
Can we win by more than Texas today?
@Kcmatt7 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Hoop Math has him at 49% on 2 pt jumpers. 72% on shots at the rim matching "he dunks a lot".
This is pretty good.
I also don’t think you can discount his ability to get to the rim. He’s a freak athlete so getting to the rim is something he’s going to be able to do at the 4 or the 5.
The issue with KJ at the 4 is he has no range so playing him next to Udeh takes away pretty much all of KJ's offensive strengths because he won't have the room to drive or run Pick and Roll. If you play a 2 big line up with KJ, the other player has to have range to space the floor and open up the paint. This is how Self was able to play KJ and Zach Clemence together in the KSU for a short stretch. Clemence has tge range that defenses have to cover him on the perimeter compared to Udeh or Ejiofor who don't have that kind of range.
If KU were to have a line up with Harris, McCullar, Adams, and Udeh next year, Self would need to go buy a playmaker at the 2 spot, otherwise defenses would just pack the paint and dare KU to make a 3.
@kjayhawks said in Bubble Watch:
@Kcmatt7 I agree with you assessment. I hope the ACC doesn’t get more than 6 or 7 teams. That conference is headed down hill. I thought the same thing last year before Duke and UNC made the final four. Could you imagine KU having a schedule break like playing Louisville, Georgia Tech, Notre Dame or Florida State right now.
Based on NET rankings, the ACC only deserves 3 teams. Current 1st place teams Clemson and Pitt are ranked 70th and 52nd respectively. UVA, Miami, and Duke are the only 3 ranked high enough to merit an at large bid historically. NC State and UNC are 43rd and 44th so they could move up into at large range, but are in an area that's usually on the outside of the bubble.
The ACC is really bad this year. UVA and Miami look like the only two teams right now I'd even consider getting past the 1st weekend in a bracket. Calling the bottom of the ACC garbage is in insult to garbage and those are teams that historically do pretty well too.
@rockchalkjayhawk said in Christian Braun:
@AsadZ said in Christian Braun:
Trade to Denver could not have been better for CB.
Same cannot be said for Och tho, he got $crwd
Oddly everything i read right after the Och trade said he was in a more favorable position for PT in Utah. hasn't worked out that way so far.
Ochai has played 16+ minutes in all but 3 games since New Year's so he's starting to get more consistent minutes now.
How sure are we that McCullar will move on? Obviously he'll at least declare and go through the draft process again like he should, but if he doesn't like his feedback (probably going to be the case), does he return since he'd likely make more in NIL money than on a G-League or international contract? This is another area where NIL is a game changer, especially at a program like KU, where NIL deals can be pretty lucrative.
@COHawk said in Triage Hawks vs Fightin Rodney Terrys Game Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 If we win out, we at least tie for the title since that means we beat Texas in Austin, and as of now we are one game back of them.
Tell me how KU shares the Big 12 title if Iowa St. somehow wins out? That's why KU doesn't control their destiny at this point since KU is a game back of ISU in the loss column and we don't play them again in the regular season.
@jayballer67 said in Triage Hawks vs Fightin Rodney Terrys Game Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Triage Hawks vs Fightin Rodney Terrys Game Thread:
After all that we control our own destiny
Texas Hawk disa agree with you about that Farmer
I did because it was a factually inaccurate statement. It seems like you don't understand what the concept of controlling your own destiny means. There is a scenario, regardless of how small the chances of it actually happening are, where KU can win out and still not win even a share of the Big 12 title which means that KU does not control their own destiny in the Big 12 race.
@jayballer67 said in Triage Hawks vs Fightin Rodney Terrys Game Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Triage Hawks vs Fightin Rodney Terrys Game Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Triage Hawks vs Fightin Rodney Terrys Game Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Triage Hawks vs Fightin Rodney Terrys Game Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Triage Hawks vs Fightin Rodney Terrys Game Thread:
After all that we control our own destiny
KU doesn't control their destiny in the Big 12. ISU is a game up on KU and we've already played them twice.
They gonna lose again maybe more then one. - Like I said before this game - -6 losses is gonna be the best - -more likely then not gonna be shared
Point is KU is dependent on others losing in order to win the Big 12 even if KU wins out which means KU does not control their own destiny in the Big 12 race.
Well hell the other teams are counting on others too - this race is WIDE OPEN INCLUDING KU
Tonight did keep KU in the race, but not everyone is dependent on others to lose to win the Big 12. If Texas, Iowa St., TCU, or Baylor win out, they all win at least a share of the Big 12. Even of KU or KSU win out, they are dependent on others losing to have any chance of even sharing the Big 12 because KU can't catch ISU on their own and KSU can't catch Texas on their own.
@jayballer67 said in Triage Hawks vs Fightin Rodney Terrys Game Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Triage Hawks vs Fightin Rodney Terrys Game Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Triage Hawks vs Fightin Rodney Terrys Game Thread:
After all that we control our own destiny
KU doesn't control their destiny in the Big 12. ISU is a game up on KU and we've already played them twice.
They gonna lose again maybe more then one. - Like I said before this game - -6 losses is gonna be the best - -more likely then not gonna be shared
Point is KU is dependent on others losing in order to win the Big 12 (shared or outright) even if KU wins out which means KU does not control their own destiny in the Big 12 race.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Triage Hawks vs Fightin Rodney Terrys Game Thread:
After all that we control our own destiny
KU doesn't control their destiny in the Big 12. ISU is a game up on KU and we've already played them twice.
How the hell did Harris get that pass through?!?!?
That looked like some middle school stuff.
@Kcmatt7 said in Fran Hate Us game chat:
@BeddieKU23 Yea I totally forgot about the guard post ups. Maybe we need to go back to that with Kev early to get him engaged.
The offense has definitely gotten stale.
This is what happens when you get into league play. Everyone has a lot more familiarity with the sets everyone runs which makes it more difficult to prepare for.
@jayballer67 said in Tonight's Game vs Texas:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Tonight's Game vs Texas:
In order for KU to remain in the Big 12 race, they have to win tonight. With a loss, KU would fall 3 games back of Texas with 7 games to play and Texas probably wouldn't lose 3 games with their remaining schedule.
I think they have a very legit chance to lose that. - - They still have KU twice - - -@ Baylor they have ISU - -Iowas State has already beat them - -ya , ya it's at Texas - -I still think ISU defense gives them hell - -This title still wide open
I'm specifically talking about KU's chances of winning the Big 12 are basically over if they lose tonight. In order for KU win the Big 12, they can probably only lose one more time to still share. And with the way this team has played away from home this year, I don't trust them to sweep the games in Norman, Stillwater, Ft. Worth, and Austin. So tonight is a must win for KU if they want to have any chance at sharing the Big 12 title. With a loss, KU falls 3 back of Texas with each team having 7 games left and UT doesn't have 3 obvious losses after tonight. And that doesn't factor in the results of the other 4 teams currently between Texas and Kansas in the standings.
In order for KU to remain in the Big 12 race, they have to win tonight. With a loss, KU would fall 3 games back of Texas with 7 games to play and Texas probably wouldn't lose 3 games with their remaining schedule.
@drgnslayr said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:
I don't see Dick being anywhere near a 1st round pick in this draft. He shows potential... but he's not physically at all near playing in the NBA. He's struggling still in college.
It would be a huge mistake... like it was if JWil left last year, or Och the year before.
Dick is gone and ain't coming back after this season. His deficiencies aren't things that get corrected as quickly as they do in the NBA. Physical development comes with age and time and he'll have a lot more time in the NBA than at KU to keep developing. The NBA is also fast paced enough that his shooting is what's going to keep him in the league for awhile. If he has the work ethic to develop other areas of his game as a pro, then he could become a star in the NBA. Other than selfishness in wanting to see him in a KU uniform next year, there's not a great reason to advise him not to go. He's a projected lottery pick in one of the stronger drafts in recent history, he needs to go make that money.
@Kcmatt7 said in Fran Hate Us game chat:
You’re just not going to win when your opponent shoots 17 more shots than you do. Rebounding was bad. Defense was bad. Offensively we pass the ball too much while in the air and try to make the “extra” pass too much.
If you’re open shoot the ball.
Would have like to see Bill go with a “big” lineup today for a bit with KJ at the 4 and Udeh at the 5. I think it lets you post KJ up and offers a better rebound and defensive matchup.
This was always going to be a tough game. Was an L on the books already. Show up Monday. I actually like the matchup against UT.
Part of the shot differential was with FT's attempted. I don't believe a team gets credited with a shot attempt on a foul unless the player makes the shot and KU shot 9 more FT's than ISU did. Obviously that doesn't fully account for the shot differential, but that's likely a few of them. Turnovers were definitely the biggest single issue today as you rarely beat a top 15 team on the road being -10 in turnovers for the game.
@mayjay said in Other games:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Other games:
it’s something a QB can play through
Jack Youngblood found Mahomes' toughness a bit more exceptional than you did...pretty much unique in Jack's eyes.
I am trying to remember another time a QB excelled on a high ankle sprain, but maybe you have seen it more than I have.
https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/02/03/hall-of-famer-on-what-it-means-to-play-injured-in-the-nfl ↗
I didn't say Mahomes isn't tough, just that it's easier for a QB to play with a high ankle sprain than a basketball player or other positions in football because of how that particular injury impacts player performance. Mahomes isn't reliant on his running ability to be a great QB, so that made it easier for him to deal with, manage, and play with that injury than it would've been for someone like Jalen Hurts who is dependent on his running ability to excel as a QB.
@cragarhawk said in Other games:
It's actually crazy how much of a defensive juggernaut they claim ISU is when TT hangs 80 on them
ISU might not quite be a defensive juggernaut, but they are a really damn good defense. The Tech game was only the second time they've given up 70+ in regulation and 3rd time total this season.
The Big 12 is just a beast of a league this year. We're in February and nobody in the league has an overall record below .500 yet. We're probably getting 7 teams in the tournament with likely 6 teams getting tip 4 seeds. 13-5 or 12-6 likely wins the league this year. More than any other season, winning home games will be vital to winning or sharing the conference title. The TCU loss has been the most damaging to KU's Big 12 chances. KU has to hold serve at home in their last 4 home games. They also have win both games in Oklahoma on the 11th and 14th and split the road games at TCU and Texas.
Can KU do that? Absolutely they can do that, but will they do that is another story. I'll feel a lot better about KU's chances if they can beat Texas on Monday. To do that, they need to focus on playing elite defense because that's where their offense is going to come from. There's no help on the bench unless the light suddenly comes on for MJ Rice or Yesufu goes on a run like he had his last year at Drake.
@benshawks08 said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:
@Texas-Hawk-10 does Kevin have eligibility?
I believe he has his covid year if he wants it.
@BeddieKU23 said in 2022-23 stats-PER, Kenpom etc:
I'm perfectly fine with how Self is attacking recruiting and roster management these days, avoiding the sure-fire 1-year HS guys and targeting those guys likely to stick around a few years. We know what works here and what doesn't. I mean he's had success with 1-year dudes too but it's just not his bread and butter.
Self might be a hard coach to play for but I've yet to really hear of a player that didn't benefit from his coaching. In fact, the opposite tends to happen.
We used to worry so much about Duke or UK's recruiting classes and now it's like why bother, those teams aren't winning anything with freshman. The transfer portal completely leveled the playing field and made experienced players more valuable. Guys from lower levels are not at a disadvantage anymore it seems when leveling up. Things have changed so fast
I'd pause to say Self has completely avoided the OAD's. When the Rice recruitment started, we didn’t know if he'd ever make it to Lawrence and Gradey Dick was also a projected 1st round pick for quite awhile before he committed, but he's also a local kid who wanted to play here so that may be an exception.
@kuballin10 said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:
@Zabudda exactly and all can shoot!
Need that 1 more guard who’s 6-7 to 6-9 and athletic whether jwill or Josh Jackson something
Kj and udeh/Zuby at the 5 plus maybe a transfer and we are set
I thin Gradey stays but even though he’s 6-8 he’s not able to guard a 4 man
Dick is going to be a lottery pick this year, he ain't coming back, nor should he return because he'll be making a lot more in the NBA than he would with NIL money next season. McCullar would be the one to keep an eye on returning as he's a fringe NBA pick and would likely make more in NIL than whatever pro league he'd be in next year, but even then I'mnot sure he'll be back.
@mayjay said in Other games:
@BeddieKU23 said in Other games:
High ankle sprain seems to be taking a while to heal.
Tells you even more about Mahomes, eh?
This isn't meant to rip on Mahomes toughness playing with his high ankle sprain, but it's two different sports with different stress loads on the ankle. Basketball is a much more difficult sport to play with a high ankle sprain than QB is. A high ankle sprain is damage to the ligaments that connect the ankle to the tibia and fibula and affects jumping and vertical load more than horizontal load like a low ankle sprain. Both can limit mobility both ways, but each one affects mobility more in a different way if that makes sense.
We Mahomes struggle to push off amd get the zip on his passes he normally does because of his injury, but it's something a QB can play through. With a basketball player, all the jumping and sprinting make it very difficult to play with a high ankle sprain because that's where a lot of the pressure is directed in the body.
This was a really good win tonight!
This is a typical John Higgins game. They are always clunky because his Crews almost always call very tight games.
KJ's hand
Pettiford tweaked a hamstring on the blow by
Both teams in the bonus already, Higgins and company are winning this game.
@DanR said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:
Are we sure Kelce is rooting for KU or just here for a competivie in-state rivalry game. Lots of Chiefs fans in kstate land
He's a Cincy Bearcat, probably doesn't care too much who wins, just there because it's a big game and he had the time to make it.
@BShark Bilas absolutely chose to call this game. I'm assuming he can basically pick whichever games he wants to call at this point.
Going through the Wooden Award finalists, Jalen is probably the runner up as of right now to Edey at Purdue.
@Kcmatt7 I don't see 10-2. The defense is going to have make major strides to do that. I could see 7 or 8 wins next season assuming Daniels stays healthy.
Feels like we should be up by 20 right now.
@BeddieKU23 said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:
The 2nd half will be awful from the refs
It's John Higgins, do you really expect anything different from him?
@DanR said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:
what the hell is that foul
Yesufu flopped trying to draw a foul on that 3.
@DanR said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:
Zach is messing them up on D for sure... got at least 2 turnovers with his active hands
This is why I was such an advocate of his during the off-season. His ability to make 3's can spread the defense out and give driving lanes to Wilson, Harris, and McCullar which is their strengths.
This version of Zach Clemence is what I've wanted to see from him all season and probably would've beaten Adams out for the 5 spot in camp.
@BeddieKU23 said in Other games:
Mike Miles of TCU has a hyperextended knee, no ACL/MCL issue. Will miss today's game against WVU & perhaps more.
That's good news for TCU because it looked bad when it happened.