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@drgnslayr said in Other games:

Even without my selfish thoughts about getting him back...

Maybe I'm just really KU and most of the players just see it as an opportunity to go pro.

When I was at KU I had access to the floor at AFH most mornings and I took it. There wasn't enough NBA money worth what I would have experienced wearing the uniform and having that experience.

It's all about the $$$ now. That is all you can say. An extra year to possibly make more. Puke!

You are projecting your priorities onto Gradey when you're not in his position. It's easy for all of us who are alums and weren't high level athletes with pro sports level potential to tell someone to hang around and enjoy the college experience because none of us were HS POY's, none of us were McDonald's All-Americans, none of us were 5 star recruits, none of were projected lottery picks.

Basketball is a business and these players make business decisions about their futures. So Gradey Dick is going to make a business decision after this season that getting a guaranteed $20-30 million on a rookie contract is life changing money, even for someone who comes from a financially stable background.

Christian Braun grew up a die hard Jayhawk fan too and that still wasn't enough to get him to come back for his senior season once he was developed enough to be an NBA prospect, and he was never a potential lottery pick. I use Braun as the example because he grew up a die hard KU fan like Gradey and came from a financially stable background like Gradey amd still made a business decision.

@drgnslayr There's a huge difference between Dick and Agbaji and Braun. Gradey Dick already has an NBA skillset which is why he's being projected as a top 10 pick in a lot of places. Agbaji and Braun each had significant holes in their games that kept them off draft boards that they had to show scouts they had addressed to be NBA caliber players.

Would I love to see Gradey come back? Absolutely, but it isn't going to happen and it would be foolish of Dick to come. The reasons to go far, far outweigh the reasons to return.

@Kcmatt7 I would say 2011 would have to huge disappointment even with UConn winning the title. 11 teams and only 2 made it past the first weekend, especially given a lot their teams that year were single digit seeds.

@drgnslayr said in Other games:

@Texas-Hawk-10

I agree it's a weak draft but whether weak or not, it's the quality of the player and how they fit into the team that determines their first contract.

I don't buy that at all... that he isn't a lock for a lottery pick next year. Aren't you seeing how much improvement he is making in his complete game since January?

He'll come back next fall and will have added considerable strength. A stronger Gradey is outright frightening. And his skills level will jump in leaps and bounds.

I think you have misjudged his potential for improvement... and the reason he would go lottery this year isn't based on his current playing status. He's still nowhere near playing on a NBA court today. If he goes as a lottery pick it will be based on his potential... which is clearly there.

A lot of reputable mock prediction sites have Dick as a top 10 pick now. His deficiencies that you pointed out are physical based ones, not skill based ones. It's much easier to develop physically in the NBA where you focus full time on development. Personal trainers, dietitians, and stuff like that year round as opposed to the restrictions the NCAA places on schools in that regard. Even going to the G-League doesn't have the stigma it once did and the level of competition there is still much better than it would be at KU. There's a reason it's almost unheard of for projected lottery picks to return to school. There's also a much higher risk of his draft stock dropping which would cost Gradey millions as opposed to jumping up a couple of spots and not significantly increasing his pay.

The risk isn't worth it for Gradey to come back and potentially jeopardize his future to be drafted a couple of spots higher.

@drgnslayr said in Other games:

@BeddieKU23

With Gradey coming on like he is, I am seeing potential as a lottery pick now... I just hope he doesn't go and values his experience in Lawrence enough to stay.

Does he necessarily make more money by leaving early? I know it means another year at NBA pay and I'm sure he won't go unless he's sure of a guaranteed contract.

As fast as he is improving... he could be a for sure Top 5 pick next year. So he's a year later but his $$$ starts much higher.

No, this is a relatively weak draft once you get past the top 5 of so. Gradey coming this year is a virtual lock to be a lottery pick, not so much next season. He absolutely should not return next season and should go play in the NBA next season.

@BShark Getting drafted in the lottery pays more than NIL deals will also.

@Eric-san said in Alabama's Brandon Miller:

@benshawks08 The energy I get from Oats is he knows Miller is lying but has no evidence to prove otherwise and has no choice but to back his player. And now he has to double down as he didn't take appropriate action when the story first broke a month ago. Obviously this is just my opinion.

The response from Oates all along should have been that he has no comment on an active investigation and he'll let the legal process play out and any disciplinary action will be administered by the university based on the findings of the investigation.

Even Fran said Self should be getting consideration for national COY this year.

Another name I haven't heard mich in this conversation that I think would get so serious NCOY consideration is Shaka Smart.

I think the front runner at the moment should probably be Chris Collins at Northwestern. That is probably the hardest P5 job out there and he has them ranked in late February and seemingly on the verge of locking in their second ever NCAA Tournament appearance.

This is a real bad look for someone who's projected as a potential top 5 pick in the draft. If I was an NBA team, this would be enough for me to take him off the draft board completely. From a legal standpoint, thus sounds like he's an accessory to murder at minimum.

This isn't quite to a level of Dave Bliss, but this to me is arguably worse than Chris Beard as Oates sounds very tone deaf to to the severity of the situation and Alabama's administration is approaching Baylor levels of incompetence in handling this matter. At minimum, Miller should've been suspended in January pending the outcome of an investigation into his in involvement as soon as his name was brought up.

@rockchalkjayhawk said in Dajuan Harris Cooks Lizards In Fort Worth Game Thread:

U-G-L-Y! But we'll take it, right?

Anyway, very happy to pick up a road win. that helps, a lot.

That certainly wasn't pretty for either team. Defense! The perfect Self game?

I never really felt that TCU was a real threat tonight. Wasn't really sweating it, despite the score.

The challenge was simply being able to make a basket or two. Lid was closed for Jalen tonight. He was even forcing it a lot (offensive charge).

A bit surprising we won if you look at the individual play in the boxscore. If we win, and Jalen only has 7, i sure expect to see Dajuan with 12 or so. not tonight. I guess Kevin came through as our secondary scorer behind Gradey.

I only look at boxscores from KU games, so hard to say how sustainable it will be playing only 6 guys in double digit minutes. TCU played 8 guys in double digit minutes. Do other teams only play just 6 guys, too? Jalen sure didn't seem himself. Tired?

Way to go Hawks. We're still in the race for first place! Rock Chalk!

Fran actually talked about this during the game. KU is near the bottom nationally in bench minutes played and TCU is near the top nationally in bench minutes played.

@wissox said in Dajuan Harris Cooks Lizards In Fort Worth Game Thread:

@Crimsonorblue22 Yeah, but I hate to say it, I never really thought Jalen was going to be a professional even with this years strong showing.

Jalen will get his shot in the NBA. He's helped his stock enough this year that he could sneak into the late 1st round. Most mocks have him in the 25-35 range. I've said even since he signed that I didn't think he's athletic enough to stick in the NBA. He's never been a great defender or shooter (now under 35% from 3 this season) and is a below average athlete for his position. He does get shut down by athletic 4's he'll see plenty of in the NBA.

His positives are that he's not afraid of the moment and has always been willing to take the last shot, he can drive and play through contact, and he's an above average rebounder. Those are attributes that with the right team and system, could get him 15 mpg in the NBA.

Long term, I don't see him sticking past his rookie contract before ending up in the G-League and then overseas where I think he'll have a chance to be a star in a top Euro league like Spain or Greece.

@cragarhawk said in Dajuan Harris Cooks Lizards In Fort Worth Game Thread:

Reckon we'll see. That's not the context I got from it. And in years past I felt he sounded off caring more about the league race first. Not the impression I've gotten here overall

He absolutely cares about winning the regular season title and in years past has cared about it to the point of being detrimental to player development during the season, including at times this season.

KU got a little lucky tonight as well because TCU was only 13-21 from the FT line tonight.

@cragarhawk said in Dajuan Harris Cooks Lizards In Fort Worth Game Thread:

@Texas-Hawk-10 he absolutely will if he believes he can lead manage the team to an eventual win and rest/heal them for a later date. Watch his press conferences. Hes all but said so bluntly more than once

He says stuff like that every year. He won't rest them during the regular season unless the games are blowouts. The Big 12 tournament is where Self has historically given players more rest because he couldn't care less about winning the Big 12 tournament.

@jayballer67 said in Dajuan Harris Cooks Lizards In Fort Worth Game Thread:

@jessejayhawk said in Dajuan Harris Cooks Lizards In Fort Worth Game Thread:

Held Miles and Baugh to a combined 8 for 30. 27% = damn good defense

Dam didn't realize they shot that poor but that's awesome - -we didn't exactly scorch the netts - -Wilson had a really bad night but did a monster job on the boards with 13 so he did contribute.

Nobody shot well for KU tonight.

@cragarhawk said in Dajuan Harris Cooks Lizards In Fort Worth Game Thread:

CS still cares about the league. Look for us to win the next two home games. But not in complete blowouts. This is the only stretch where we can maybe get a lil rest, get a lil healing, get some more bench minutes, and not have to be our absolute best to do it.

Self won't rest players if the game isn't a blowout. I'd expect KU to try and build big leads really quickly to try and play some more bench minutes.

@RockChalkinTexas said in Dajuan Harris Cooks Lizards In Fort Worth Game Thread:

Now all we need is for ISU to beat UT tomorrow night.

I think Saturday is the best shot at UT losing one of their next 3 games since it's in Waco.

@kjayhawks said in Dajuan Harris Cooks Lizards In Fort Worth Game Thread:

Texas has ISU, @Baylor, @ TCU and us. That a damn rough last 4 games.

Texas has an absolutely brutal closing stretch.

@kuballin10 said in Dajuan Harris Cooks Lizards In Fort Worth Game Thread:

What a gutsy win

Team might be peaking at the right time with Udeh getting backup minutes and effecting games

Need UT loss and we hold serve at home and at UT gonna be for outright!

@UT is for the outright title for KU no matter what UT dies if KU holds serve the next two games.

@Jethro since you want to PM calling me prick about this, let me know when you're best friend has their life ruined by a false libel lawsuit because his ex-wife could afford a better lawyer than he could.

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@dylans said in Bubble Watch:

@drgnslayr You really can see how good of a coach K was after watching this crap show. (Always knew Roy was legit!)

Really? I was thinking the opposite. You put a kid who has no clue what hes doing in for K and they have about the same resume. Duke didnt get out of the first round something like 4 times under K since Self last got knocked out first round

Coach K won 5 national titles in 3 different eras of college basketball he knew how to coach and adaptto different eras. Upsets are more prone to happen with younger teams. Look at the years Self didn’t make it past the weekend and those are pretty much least experienced teams at KU. You can dislike him all you want, but to diminish his accomplishments is just plain ignorance and stupidity.

We have always paid Coach K the ultimate compliment- we hate his f***king guts. If you want to worship him, I'm sure there are better places to do that than here.

Why do you hate him? Is it because he won at an extremely high level for so long with several high profile wins over KU during that time? Acknowledging that Coach K won titles in different eras doesn't mean I'm worshipping him, it means I'm acknowledging that he was a great coach over a very long period of time and was able to successfully adapt to different eras of college basketball.

I already told you why I hate him. I don't hate him because he sucks . I hate him because he's good. Other than the rotten personality, making everything all about him all the time (especially the retirement year), the lucky break he got when Archie Marshall went down in the FF, his sanctimonious lecturing of opposing players, and the fact he looks like the most unhappiest human being on earth, I love the freaking crap out of the original Rat face. No one will ever convince me he didn't get the easiest draws in the history of the sport on several of those natties. And no one will ever convince me that Bill isn't a better coach. So, you love him, I hate him.

Wow, so much failure of reading comprehension there on your part.

Where did I say you hate him because he sucks? I literally said because he won at a high level for a long period of time so thank you for reaffirming what I said.

Tell me where at any point I said I love Coach K? All I've said was that he won multiple titles in different eras and his ability to adapt to multiple eras was part of what made him a great coach. At no point, did I ever say he was a person of high moral character, only that he won a lot.

Sounds like you're just personally offended that someone can be a KU fan, but not wear crimson and blue blinders and is capable of acknowledging the accomplishments of non-KU related coaches. So grow up and realize that someone can have a different take on a matter than you without getting offended by that take.

You were very rude to Approximity, and now you're being condescending to me. It's like you have no sense of humor. Quit taking yourself so seriously.

I am being condescending to you because you're apparently deliberately misquoting me, put words in my mouth, and claiming I said shit I didn't say, I don't fucking appreciate that shit or find it funny in the context you're doing it in. Doing dumb shit like that is something I don't like regardless if it's meant to be a joke or not because doing stupid shit like does have actual repercussions.

And yes, I do believe the take of dismissing someone's accomplishments because of personal bias against the person is stupid which is evidently what made you jump into something that your name wasn't brought up in.

Because I said you "loved" the Rat. OMG. Ok, guy...I know better now than to comment on your posts.

No. You claimed I said you hated Coach K because he sucks, nowhere did I say or even imply that so that would be you intentionally claiming I said something I didn't. Then you want to twist me acknowledging K's accomplishments into loving him more than Self which again is no basis. So when people try and pull stuff like that, I will be absolutely be an asshole about that stuff every single time because I don't find it funny.

@Jethro said in Bubble Watch:

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@dylans said in Bubble Watch:

@drgnslayr You really can see how good of a coach K was after watching this crap show. (Always knew Roy was legit!)

Really? I was thinking the opposite. You put a kid who has no clue what hes doing in for K and they have about the same resume. Duke didnt get out of the first round something like 4 times under K since Self last got knocked out first round

Coach K won 5 national titles in 3 different eras of college basketball he knew how to coach and adaptto different eras. Upsets are more prone to happen with younger teams. Look at the years Self didn’t make it past the weekend and those are pretty much least experienced teams at KU. You can dislike him all you want, but to diminish his accomplishments is just plain ignorance and stupidity.

We have always paid Coach K the ultimate compliment- we hate his f***king guts. If you want to worship him, I'm sure there are better places to do that than here.

Why do you hate him? Is it because he won at an extremely high level for so long with several high profile wins over KU during that time? Acknowledging that Coach K won titles in different eras doesn't mean I'm worshipping him, it means I'm acknowledging that he was a great coach over a very long period of time and was able to successfully adapt to different eras of college basketball.

I already told you why I hate him. I don't hate him because he sucks . I hate him because he's good. Other than the rotten personality, making everything all about him all the time (especially the retirement year), the lucky break he got when Archie Marshall went down in the FF, his sanctimonious lecturing of opposing players, and the fact he looks like the most unhappiest human being on earth, I love the freaking crap out of the original Rat face. No one will ever convince me he didn't get the easiest draws in the history of the sport on several of those natties. And no one will ever convince me that Bill isn't a better coach. So, you love him, I hate him.

Wow, so much failure of reading comprehension there on your part.

Where did I say you hate him because he sucks? I literally said because he won at a high level for a long period of time so thank you for reaffirming what I said.

Tell me where at any point I said I love Coach K? All I've said was that he won multiple titles in different eras and his ability to adapt to multiple eras was part of what made him a great coach. At no point, did I ever say he was a person of high moral character, only that he won a lot.

Sounds like you're just personally offended that someone can be a KU fan, but not wear crimson and blue blinders and is capable of acknowledging the accomplishments of non-KU related coaches. So grow up and realize that someone can have a different take on a matter than you without getting offended by that take.

You were very rude to Approximity, and now you're being condescending to me. It's like you have no sense of humor. Quit taking yourself so seriously.

I am being condescending to you because you're apparently deliberately misquoting me, put words in my mouth, and claiming I said shit I didn't say, I don't fucking appreciate that shit or find it funny in the context you're doing it in. Doing dumb shit like that is something I don't like regardless if it's meant to be a joke or not because doing stupid shit like does have actual repercussions.

And yes, I do believe the take of dismissing someone's accomplishments because of personal bias against the person is stupid which is evidently what made you jump into something that your name wasn't brought up in.

@dylans said in Bubble Watch:

Coach Ks secret lover is upset or in self denial. not sure which

Neither actually, but next time actually have the balls to not be cryptic about who you're talking about. kthanxbye!

@Jethro said in Bubble Watch:

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@dylans said in Bubble Watch:

@drgnslayr You really can see how good of a coach K was after watching this crap show. (Always knew Roy was legit!)

Really? I was thinking the opposite. You put a kid who has no clue what hes doing in for K and they have about the same resume. Duke didnt get out of the first round something like 4 times under K since Self last got knocked out first round

Coach K won 5 national titles in 3 different eras of college basketball he knew how to coach and adaptto different eras. Upsets are more prone to happen with younger teams. Look at the years Self didn’t make it past the weekend and those are pretty much least experienced teams at KU. You can dislike him all you want, but to diminish his accomplishments is just plain ignorance and stupidity.

We have always paid Coach K the ultimate compliment- we hate his f***king guts. If you want to worship him, I'm sure there are better places to do that than here.

Why do you hate him? Is it because he won at an extremely high level for so long with several high profile wins over KU during that time? Acknowledging that Coach K won titles in different eras doesn't mean I'm worshipping him, it means I'm acknowledging that he was a great coach over a very long period of time and was able to successfully adapt to different eras of college basketball.

I already told you why I hate him. I don't hate him because he sucks . I hate him because he's good. Other than the rotten personality, making everything all about him all the time (especially the retirement year), the lucky break he got when Archie Marshall went down in the FF, his sanctimonious lecturing of opposing players, and the fact he looks like the most unhappiest human being on earth, I love the freaking crap out of the original Rat face. No one will ever convince me he didn't get the easiest draws in the history of the sport on several of those natties. And no one will ever convince me that Bill isn't a better coach. So, you love him, I hate him.

Wow, so much failure of reading comprehension there on your part.

Where did I say you hate him because he sucks? I literally said because he won at a high level for a long period of time so thank you for reaffirming what I said.

Tell me where at any point I said I love Coach K? All I've said was that he won multiple titles in different eras and his ability to adapt to multiple eras was part of what made him a great coach. At no point, did I ever say he was a person of high moral character, only that he won a lot.

Sounds like you're just personally offended that someone can be a KU fan, but not wear crimson and blue blinders and is capable of acknowledging the accomplishments of non-KU related coaches. So grow up and realize that someone can have a different take on a matter than you without getting offended by that take.

@drgnslayr said in What was that? "MOJO TRANSFER!":

@Crimsonorblue22

No.... did now! What stuck out was his comment about TCU playing 40 minutes of what Baylor did in 20. My fear exactly about Monday!

What I want to know.... did Self instruct his guys to pick up their guards at halfcourt going into the second half? Or did they just do that with their mojo? When you add that with our extra energy, we completely took Baylor out of their offense. Finally.

Yes, that was the adjustment Self made on defense at halftime. He told McCullar and Harris to stay on Crier and Flagler no matter what and have Adams and Udeh hedge instead of switching on the screens. He also said that he didn't do it sooner because he didn't think they had the energy to do that for 40 minutes.

@mayjay said in Bubble Watch:

He did great at times, he did poorly at times. A Tale of Two Dukes.

Once he got Duke rolling, he arguably had 2 bad seasons in about 35 years, and by bad, I mean miss the NCAA Tournament.

@approxinfinity said in Bubble Watch:

@Texas-Hawk-10 if he knew how to adapt to different eras, and you want to argue he was great throughout his time at Duke, why are you making excuses for him not having success with young teams?

I consider the Nike funneling + OAD + sit out a year on transfer situation to be the last era. He went out limping out of that era, and I think others suggested that Scheyer was taking over some of Ks coaching duties the last few years, but you wouldn’t know it, because the results are the same! My point.

And my assumption is that had that era ended sooner, Coach K would have retired sooner, because over the last decade, he was rolling the dice on OAD talent and friendly whistles and not really developing anyone.

Name a coach that was/is highly successful in the NCAA Tournament with very young teams? Even Self isn't immune to that, but since you chose to ignore that part of my comment, presumably because it didn't fit your narrative, tell me the years Self took very young teams on deep tournament runs? Youth was a big factor for KU in 2021, 2019, 2015, 2014, and 2006 amd not making it past the weekend in those seasons. So don't pretend that Self is immune from that issue either because he definitely is not.

The OAD era ended a few years ago, in which Coach K won 2 titles, so he did just fine in that era. The current transfer portal era is when he slipped a little bit, but based on his final season, he seemed to be getting a grasp on how to navigate and build a roster in this current era as well. I also don't expect Jon Scheyer to duplicate Coach K's success because he's not Coach K. I also don't expect whoever follows Self to duplicate Self's success because they won't be Bill Self.

@Jethro said in Bubble Watch:

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@dylans said in Bubble Watch:

@drgnslayr You really can see how good of a coach K was after watching this crap show. (Always knew Roy was legit!)

Really? I was thinking the opposite. You put a kid who has no clue what hes doing in for K and they have about the same resume. Duke didnt get out of the first round something like 4 times under K since Self last got knocked out first round

Coach K won 5 national titles in 3 different eras of college basketball he knew how to coach and adaptto different eras. Upsets are more prone to happen with younger teams. Look at the years Self didn’t make it past the weekend and those are pretty much least experienced teams at KU. You can dislike him all you want, but to diminish his accomplishments is just plain ignorance and stupidity.

We have always paid Coach K the ultimate compliment- we hate his f***king guts. If you want to worship him, I'm sure there are better places to do that than here.

Why do you hate him? Is it because he won at an extremely high level for so long with several high profile wins over KU during that time? Acknowledging that Coach K won titles in different eras doesn't mean I'm worshipping him, it means I'm acknowledging that he was a great coach over a very long period of time and was able to successfully adapt to different eras of college basketball.

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@dylans said in Bubble Watch:

@drgnslayr You really can see how good of a coach K was after watching this crap show. (Always knew Roy was legit!)

Really? I was thinking the opposite. You put a kid who has no clue what hes doing in for K and they have about the same resume. Duke didnt get out of the first round something like 4 times under K since Self last got knocked out first round

Coach K won 5 national titles in 3 different eras of college basketball he knew how to coach and adaptto different eras. Upsets are more prone to happen with younger teams. Look at the years Self didn’t make it past the weekend and those are pretty much least experienced teams at KU. You can dislike him all you want, but to diminish his accomplishments is just plain ignorance and stupidity.

@dylans said in Thoughts on the Baylor Game:

@BeddieKU23 said in Thoughts on the Baylor Game:

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@Jethro

The statistics keep getting crazier

350 now. I wonder what happened 351 games ago? - crappy mid-major over Christmas break, while no students were on campus would be my best guess.

I believe it was Pitt St. when KU still played the in-state D2 schools in the regular season and it was a winter storm that was the culprit in tge game not being a sellout.

This team goes as Dejuan goes. He is by far the MVP of KU and possibly the most valuable player to any team in the country. I don't know if I've ever seen a Self team so dependent on one player to be successful, but that's the case this year with Harris.

@kjayhawks said in Other games:

Huge game In Morgantown this morning. Everyone said Tech was forsure out of the NCAA conversation with 12 losses but WV sits with 11 currently. I feel like this a must win WV getting in the dance a win Tech makes me think they can still get an at large bid if other cards fall right.

I don't think either team makes the dance. I think those two and OU miss out and Big 12 sends 7 to the NCAA Tournament.

@kjayhawks said in Bubble Watch:

@Texas-Hawk-10 they can’t lose out for sure but I bet they are project in after today.

They're already projected in on most brackets either as a last 4 in or last 4 byes before today. If they hold on, it'll be a big win resume boost to have a season sweep of a potential 1-2 seed, but they still need to win 2 of 3 against Florida, Auburn, and Arkansas along with at least 1 SEC Tournament win to feel safe about being in because they currently don't have the Quad 1 wins or NET ranking to feel good about anything right now.

@kjayhawks said in Bubble Watch:

May have jinxed the vols could be the win that get UK in

UK would still have plenty of work to do to get in. This would only be their second Quad 1 win this year with the other being their first win over Tennessee in Knoxville.

@kjayhawks said in GAME DAY #ROCKCHALK:

@Texas-Hawk-10 the all-star events have turned into a complete joke IMO. Turned into a popularity contest rather than whom deserves to be there.

I don't believe that's how the Rising Stars game rosters have ever been determined. And of course the starters are a popularity contest, they're determined by fan voting so it should be a popularity contest. The All-Star game has never been purely merit based because it has always been an event for the fans since its origin back in the 50's.

If you want something merit based, then wait for the All-NBA teams and post season honors to be announced because those are merit based. Or if you want a merit based All-Star game, then don't give the fans any say in the matter. But, as long as fan voting is part of the process for the All-Star game itself, I have zero issues with who becomes a starter because it is a popularity contest because those are the players the fans want to see play.

@stoptheflop said in Other games:

The Tenn at Kentucky game at noon will help a little to kill time until our game. The drama between Kentucky fans, Calipari and this year's team is fun to watch from a distance. Fun matchup and I don't care who wins. Well, yes I'll be rooting for Ten for sure.

Kentucky winning is better for KU's seeding.

@AsadZ said in Chris Beard Arrested:

How about he goes to UK.

I'd put money on Louisville over Kentucky. I don't see Kentucky being willing to deal with Beard's baggage at this point. Louisville has always been more willing to sacrifice in that area in regards to coaches.

@RockChalkinTexas said in GAME DAY #ROCKCHALK:

Morning ☕☕☕

Ready to go.

CB and Ochai are there!!

Kinda bummed neither was playing in the Rising Stars game last night. I thought Braun had done enough this season to get a roster spot.

@dylans said in Bubble Watch:

Defenses are harder to see change in than offensive sets. I’m sure there are tons of little tweaks BS makes game to game and year to year. Unfortunately I am not enlightened as to what they are. Seems to be mostly spacing and switching as the biggest differences. Bill is good at teaching the guys how to help on defense as well.

I was half expecting a box and 1 in the second half of the OSU game, but other defensive changes shut Bryce down.

The majority of the tweaks to his man defense are going to involve when to switch, going over or under screens, crashing the glass or leaking out on rebounds and stuff like that which is always going to be personnel amd match up dependent.

@BeddieKU23 said in Thoughts on the Baylor Game:

@drgnslayr

Have a feeling with the atmosphere tomorrow we'll have a good shot at forcing our tempo in this one.

I didn't realize how slow Baylor played this year because they're usually a team that likes to run and play uptempo.

@benshawks08 said in Bubble Watch:

@drgnslayr I’d add that we still haven’t seen a ton of defensive wrinkles this year as we often have in the past. How many times have we switched to a zone? Any box and 1? Or my favorite Bill self special, the triangle and two?

He’s certainly done some innovation and reinventing on the defensive side of the ball as well. We switch 5 (a thing I don’t see many other coaches doing). It seems like as you pointed out there are certain games where there’s a bigger emphasis on getting into the passing lanes. He’s also really mixed it up with bringing doubles or not against post feeds. Some determined by personnel. But when those doubles come and where they come from have also been interesting to watch. I’ve also like some small adjustments this team seems to be making within the switch five system. The communication is getting a little better to prevent the worst type of match ups with say Juan or Joe buried behind a 6-10 monster. They’ve been switching on the screen and then switching away from the ball to get one of our bigger guards into the post. Doesn’t happen all the time but something to watch. I think these situations could be contributing to the players playing on the gaps as you mentioned. Guys like Kevin and Jalen are being asked to really anticipate what’s happening and help the helpers helper type stuff. As this progresses I can see our defense really turning it up to end the year as those guys get into the passing lanes and really get a good scout on opposing teams down the stretch.

In my never coached anything more than 7th grade girls basketball mind wonder if there isn’t some box and 1 type defense that could highlight Kevin’s ridiculous anticipation ability. Like he’d be the one outside of the box but his job is just to figure out what the other teams plan is and blow it up. I know it’s not really feasible but I’d love to see what he could do in a freelance type situation.

Self doesn't really break out the gimmick defenses during the regular season too often. Maybe the occasional 2-3 because of foul issues, but he usually saves those for the tournament.

Ochai got another start and played 39 minutes and scored 17 points tonight in a loss against Memphis.

Christian Braun played 27 minutes and scored 6 points with 3 rebounds and 4 assists in a win over the Mavericks.

Devonte Graham had a rough shooting night going 3-12 and 1-8 to score 10 points in the Spurs loss to Charlotte where Svi scored 12 points in 25 minutes.

Embiid with 29-14 in a win over Cleveland.

@kjayhawks said in Chris Beard Arrested:

@Texas-Hawk-10 she saw the gravy train running dry. Someone else will pick him up which is ludicrous IMO. But look at a guy like Urban Meyer with his track record. I’m ok with some second chance but some of these coaches just appear to terrible human beings.

Coaching at this level is a cut throat industry and I'm sure there are many morally bankrupt people in positions that we don't hear about their transgressions.

@dylans said in Bubble Watch:

@drgnslayr You really can see how good of a coach K was after watching this crap show. (Always knew Roy was legit!)

I mean, you don't win 5 national titles in basically 3 different eras of college basketball by accident. Coach K knew how to adapt with the times in his recruiting and won titles when it was almost unheard of for anyone to leave before their junior season, he won in the era of players skipping college and he won in the OAD era.

The case was dropped because his girlfriend didn't want to lose her meal ticket so she didn't want to continue pursuing the charges against Beard.

@BShark said in Bubble Watch:

@Kcmatt7 Make or break stretch for UK, not even kidding.

After the MSU roadie they have Tennessee in Rupp, at Florida, Auburn in Rupp. Gotta think they need to go 2-2 there.

They probably need to go 5-1 realistically because they only have 1 Quad 1 win so far and they have a Quad 4 loss. They need Quad 1 wins and have 4 of those games left in their final 6. Tennessee, @Florida, Auburn, and @Arkansas so realistically Kentucky needs to go 3-1 in those games to help their NET ranking while also taking care of MSU and Vandy.

@Kcmatt7 said in 2023 Coaching Carousel:

Potential Openings:
- Texas
- Washington
- Arizona State
- Stanford
- Louisville
- Georgia Tech
- Ole Miss
- Georgetown
- Cal
- Oregon State

Known Openings:
- Notre Dame

Potential Retirements:
- Florida State

The only "Big" job that could open this offseason looks like Louisville if they want to end that experiment early. My guess is they do if they can get the guy they actually want.

Anyone know if UT is just going to promote Terry or do they go look for a replacement? Seems like it would be hard to fire a guy who's done so well in Beard's absence. At the same time, you have to believe Terry can recruit and be a program builder. Otherwise move on and go get your guy when there is little to no "big boy" competition out there.

UT essentially is the best job that could be open all offseason. They can handpick who they want. That might not be the case in a year or two if you find out Terry isn't the guy.

I could potentially see Ohio St. open up as well. They're just terrible this year and Chris Holtman has never made it past the first weekend or really been that competitive in the Big 10 outside of his first season. This is year 6 and OSU has been slightly above average when we know that's a program that can easily contend for conference titles and Final Fours. That'd be a job to look out for to me and would be up there with Texas and Louisville in terms of prestige.

Tonight was KU's best offensive performance of the year against one of the top defenses in the conference. 17 combined assists from Harris and McCullar tonight has to be the stat of the night for me this game.

@kjayhawks said in Bryce Thompson Career Game Part 2 Game Thread:

Udeh had some good moments but channeling his inner Jeff Graves with 5 fouls in 13 minutes. I still remember Graves having 2 fouls in 36 seconds one time lol

That's a pretty normal thing for big men under Self to struggle with fouls early on in their careers. Part of it is likely because of the number of bodies Self can throw out there, especially if the player doesn't have to play big minutes in that game.

Devion Harmon with 21 points at halftime including a prayer of a 3 pointer right before halftime to give Tech a 9 point lead.