Gonzaga shot 68% that half. Doubt they repeat that in the second half. KU's not out of this yet.
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Jalen at the 5 right now.
@approxinfinity said in Gonzaga Game Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 it's less than halfway into the first game of the season against #1. If he is at the point where he's conserving energy we are in big trouble.
It wouldn't be an issue today, but if he's asked to everything all the time, Garrett will break down at some point. This is why you don't see great defense in the NBA until playoff time.
@approxinfinity said in Gonzaga Game Thread:
Why is Marcus off ball
Marcus is playing 35 minutes a game this year, he can run point and guard the best player all game. He's got to conserve energy at some point unless you want his gas tank empty by early February.
Good footwork by Dave, but gotta finish those shots at the rim.
@BShark said in Gonzaga Game Thread:
I think Gonzaga wins fairly easily due to their good bigs.
I think you're underestimating the struggles Gonzaga will have getting the ball to their bigs since their two primary ball handlers are brand new to the program. Gonzaga also isn't exactly a defensive juggernaut either so KU will be able to score against them.
Even ESPN's BPI projector has KU a slight favorite to win today.
@jayballer67 said in Here we go...:
Hmmm , got me wondering - -saw this just now. - -Dick Vitale and Shulman doing the KU/UK , Tuesday and Vitale saying 1st game be doing it from his Home Studio.
Got me to wondering how ARE they doing this with Announcers ? - are the announcers going to be doing these games Courtside o rare all games going to be done remote somehow ? - I don't know guys - -hadn't really thought about the announcers. - -What about media ? - -different reporters and such ? - - - Anyone know ?
Same way they've been doing football games all year. Some crews will be in person, some will be remote.
It should also be noted that Mark Few has two former Bill Self players on his staff at Gonzaga. Assistant coach Roger Powell played for Self at Illinois and one of Gonzaga's GAs is former KU walk-on Evan Manning.
@drgnslayr said in Here we go...:
The key is we put pressure on the ball to deny the post feeds. I'm not that familiar with the Zags, but guessing Suggs is their big play maker. If he has to contend with Marcus breathing down his neck, it could be a tough offensive night for the Zags. Marcus can disrupt a lot of offense.
Gonzaga runs a very similar system to KU where they like to play through their bigs. Jalen Suggs will be playing in his first game and with Andrew Nembhard being ruled eligible, I'm expecting Nembhard to be running point for Gonzaga most of the game over Suggs. Nembhard had the best A/TO ratio in the SEC last season at Florida so I'm fully expecting Few to trust Nembhard over Suggs tomorrow at PG. I also don't expect Nembhard to be rattled by having Garrett on him, but the chemistry and timing with his new teammates probably won't be there yet so I think that's where the mistakes are going to come from with Gonzaga more so than Garrett's defense.
@BeddieKU23 said in Here we go...:
@stoptheflop said in Here we go...:
Has there been an announcement by Coach Self on the 5 starters? I always hear coaches say that starting is of little consequence, but it's always interesting to me. Any word or will it be like KU starting QB at the beginning of each year?
Garrett, Braun, Agbaji and McCormack for sure. 5th not official but I'm expecting it to be Thompson.
I think Self will trust Braun to play the 4 allowing Thompson to be the other ball handler and shooter from the perimeter. Honestly due to Gonzaga's size wouldn't be surprised if Enaruna Wilson and TGF rotate a bunch. It may not matter so much who starts but by who stays in the game and who's playing well
Ochai is the 4 in that line up. Garrett is the lead guard, Bryce would be the off-ball guard, Braun the 3 and Ochai will do what the 4 normally does which was basically what Ochai did last season once Self switched over to the 4 guard look.
Ochai's handles are subpart for a wing player and him playing the 4 role on offense better suits his strengths of setting screens and picks and rolling to the basket for lobs or setting up in the corner for a kick out 3 or back door lob.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Here we go...:
@BShark said in Here we go...:
http://www2.kusports.com/weblogs/tale-tait/2020/nov/23/kansas-redshirt-freshman-jalen-wilsons-o/ ↗
Hope this proves to be correct.
Would be terrific. I still think (or hope, anyhow) TGF steps up and seizes the job because he has the highest ceiling and can be terrific off script. But Wilson’s shooting (which apparently is better now) is intriguing.
Biggest issue I keep reading about TGF from both players and coaches is that his defense is well below average still at this point. That 5th starting spot is going to end up being whichever of the 3 is the best defender right now since that's what KU is going to have to depend on to make a run this season.
@approxinfinity said in Here we go...:
A match up 21154 days in the making? Has Bill Self ever beaten Mark Few before? Who is the greatest Dec 27th 1962 Coach? There can be only one!
I believe they've only squared off once and that was to open the 2001-02 season when Self was still at Illinois and Self won that game by 18. Self also ended that season by losing to KU in the Sweet 16.
@Texas-Hawk-10 Could he have signed it before they tendered other offers though?
In theory yes, but it's not a smart business decision to do that because the qualifying offer is usually a low-ball deal for 1 year. We'll see if Frank gets an offer anywhere else, I'm sure he will at some point, but this isn't a bad thing necessarily because had Frank signed that offer sheet, he'd likely either be back on the G-League or have a bunch DNP's next season. Now he has a chance to go somewhere he can get some minutes as a back up PG and get a better deal next summer.
There's several teams still in need of a back up PG, so it's possible Frank can catch on somewhere even if it's a 2-way contract.
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Warriors get a pair of Hawks:
I'm excited about wiggs, oubre, and miles!
Don't be shocked if Golden State trades Wiggins at some point if they can. That's probably one of, if not the worst contracts in the NBA. Unless they think Wiggins can be the center piece of a rebuild starting in a couple of years when Curry, Klay, and Draymond are gone, which he's not because Wiggins has never had the alpha dog mentality to be the top 10 player he's capable of being, GS will do just about anything possible to get rid of that contract they still owe just under $100 million on.
@Kcmatt7 That's not how restricted free agency works in the NBA though. Because of their other deals after tendering the offer to Frank, they can't afford to re-sign Frank anymore even if they wanted to so Milwaukee renounced their rights to Frank and have made Mason an unrestricted free agent now.
@nuleafjhawk said in Harbaugh:
@Texas-Hawk-10 Harbaugh would never have to worry about "Big" games at KU. There are none.
It wouldn't matter who is coach. Andy Reid would never win a single game at KU. You have to have at least one or two decent players and NOBODY wants to play at KU.
Sorry for the rant. I do feel a little better now. It's not personal.
Never said Harbaugh would win a game at KU this season. But, because he's the kind of guy that uses programs as springboards until he lands where he wants, he wouldn't be at KU long and wouldn't build a foundation of HS talent like Miles is. He'd end up somewhere between Weis and later Beaty on the JuCo/transfer dependency scale based on how he's attempted to build Michigan up. Best case for KU is that he gets KU to 6 wins, bolts to a better job and leaves KU in similar shape to what Weis left for Beaty of scholarship shortages and unbalanced class sizes.
Without a doubt. Like yeah he's struggling at Michigan but it's an upgrade.
How is Harbaugh an upgrade over Les Miles at this point? Age and clock management are probably the two areas Harbaugh has an advantage over Miles. Harbaugh has a terrible record in big games at both Stanford and Michigan along with the 49ers. He hasn't beaten OSU yet and will probably be fired after this season. Les Miles on the other hand has won plenty of big games at both OSU and LSU.
Harbaugh would've been a great choice in 2009 to replace Mangino had Perkins been patient and let Harbaugh finish his season at Stanford, but that's not what KU needs now. Harbaugh has never had to build a bottomed out program before. Miles has done that before and is doing that now.
Another advantage to Miles over Harbaugh is this is likely Les Miles final job whereas Harbaugh would likely use KU as a springboard to somewhere else and not necessarily leave KU in great shape.
The one team I didn't want to see Doke go to. I f'ing hate the Jazz more than any other team in the league.
@jayballer67 The game isn't cancelled, it's been postponed to Dec. 12.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 March Madness:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2021 March Madness:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 March Madness:
@mayjay said in 2021 March Madness:
@BeddieKU23 Well, yeah, but they have to play in the big bad ACC tourney, so the Dookiebabies need a weekend to recuperate from all that trauma!
They have to go so far from home for that too!!
(Context: Greensboro is about 50 miles from Durham)
It's not in Greensboro this year, it's in DC this season.
Wow that’s as far as K will go from Durham.
Only if Duke's skipping out on the 2022 ACC Tournament in Brooklyn. They won't be back to Greensboro until 2023.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 March Madness:
@mayjay said in 2021 March Madness:
@BeddieKU23 Well, yeah, but they have to play in the big bad ACC tourney, so the Dookiebabies need a weekend to recuperate from all that trauma!
They have to go so far from home for that too!!
(Context: Greensboro is about 50 miles from Durham)
It's not in Greensboro this year, it's in DC this season.
@Kcmatt7 I doubt the stadium has enough locker rooms to accommodate that many teams playing at once though
@nwhawkfan There'd have to be multiple venues in use to accommodate every game. You could probably split Lucas Oil in half and play two games there. The NCAA would probably have to use the Pacers arena for games and they might have to use Hinkle as a 4th venue to accommodate 1st weekend games.
I could definitely see that happening.
KU basketball is in a pretty good spot for minimizing their exposure because of McCarthy Hall. The players have their meals delivered so they don't have to go to the dining hall. They pretty much only have online classes to minimize interaction with the student body and the players pretty much only go between McCarthy and Allen Fieldhouse right now. Even within McCarthy, each player has their own room this year to minimize interaction further.
KU is set up as well as anyone in the country to have their own bubble type environment on campus. Obviously not 100% able to protect everything because of the coaches, trainers, and support staff not being isolated, but nobody else has anything definitively better than what KU has to minimize exposure and risk.
@stoptheflop Liberty's level of competition is much inferior to KU's and they're in a recruiting hotbed so it's easier for them to find players overlooked by the ACC.
All of their upperclassmen that are the biggest reason they are in the position they're in now we're brought in by former KU coach Turner Gill.
I still believe KU royally screwed up by firing Gill after two seasons. Gill was mostly recruiting HS kids, he had 2-3 JuCo's per class which wasn't going to hurt much had they flamed out and had his QB of the future signed in 2012 in Seth Russell before he was fired.
I do believe that KU probably would've bottomed out in 2012 under Gill while the Mangino supporters filtered out of the program, but I do believe that we would've seen KU turn the corner in 2013-14 as Gill's culture took over and his recruits stepped up into leadership roles within the program and changed the culture of KU football.
I will always believe that Sheahon Zenger did more damage to Kansas football than anybody else associated with the program, more than Lew, more than Weis (who I put a close second for destroying the depth and class balance), and more than Beaty.
Also just saw KU added Washburn as the final non-conference game on Dec. 3.
KU has 12 of 27 games against preseason top 20 teams and 4 of 9 non-conference games against preseason top 12 teams.
That's a pretty stacked schedule.
@jayballer67 said in 2020-21 Non-conference Schedule:
I read that ESPN had mentioned or entertained the idea but guess not that seriously and not sure how much influence they would of had - -BUT guess it had at least been mentioned about Kentucky playing at the Phog for a minute - -but we see who has MORE pull lol
The MSU/Duke game has nothing to do with how pull Duke has. They played each other at MSU last season in the ACC/B10 Challenge so logic would dictate the next on campus game between the two should be in Durham at Duke.
The reason they're playing on campus instead of in Indy with KU/Kentucky is because of the ACC and B10 Covid protocols not matching what the B12/SEC have in place in regards to neutral court games sontte ACC/B10 couldn't come to an agreement to play their game in Indy as well.
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020-21 Non-conference Schedule:
Smh at the Duke/Sparty game in Durham
Duke and MSU played in East Lansing last season as part of the ACC/B10 challenge. Actually pretty reasonable that since the last on campus meeting was at MSU that the next one would be in Durham.
@Crimsonorblue22 Chappelle is George Carlin reincarnated even though Carlin died long after Chappelle began his ascension.
Daniels took an ugly hit, not dirty, and looked like he injured his left hip/leg. He couldn't put any weight on it as he was helped off.
@Woodrow said in 2020-21 Non-conference Schedule:
Saw today that KU and Kentucky are playing Dec 1 in Indianapolis. Not sure if Duke and Michigan State are playing there as well .
Duke and MSU are playing in Durham.
@FarmerJayhawk The AP has already called Arizona for Biden. They currently have Biden leading by about 100k votes with 84% reporting.
The only states the AP hasn't called yet are Alaska, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania.
The current totals as of about 2:30pm Central Time have Trump leading Alaska, Georgia, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania and Biden leading Michigan and Nevada.
Only chance Trump has is to hold all 4 of those states, he'll win Alaska and probably North Carolina, and flip Nevada, but Pennsylvania will almost for sure flip to Biden once the votes are in.
I think it's going to end up at 290-248 Biden with Joe taking Michigan, Nevada, and flipping Pennsylvania and Trump winning Alaska, Georgia, and North Carolina.
If the current AP tracker holds, it would end up 270-268 in favor of Biden and that's with Pennsylvania and Georgia going to Trump.
I would also expect Trump to call for a recall in Wisconsin, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Georgia if those results end up in the legal range to be able to call for a recall.
@drgnslayr Howard just got his, Jordan's been some really good teams including right now with Brooklyn so he'll have a really good shot at getting one next season. Capella had a few good shots in Houston. Drummond is the only one that's consistently been on bad teams in Detroit and still managed to make multiple All Star Games.
None of those guys have ever been considered elite offensive players because none of them are good shooters, but they're all top end rebounders and defenders which is something Doke has a chance to be as well. Dole's never going to be a good shooter, but as long as he can finish lobs and keep finishing when close to the basket on top of rebounding and his defense, he'll have a long NBA career.
@drgnslayr said in Doke. MY GOD.:
I hope he has been working as hard on his FT shooting... an area we know counts big at the pro level.
There's plenty of successful big men in the NBA currently that suck at the FT line. If Doke isn't successful in the NBA, it won't be because of his FT shooting. Dwight Howard, Andre Drummond, DeAndre Jordan, Clint Capella, just to name a few bugs who suck from the stripe.
Defense finally settled down and Hishaw with an impressive run for a TD.
Halfway through the 1st quarter and the game is going about as expected. ISU up 13-0 and KU's offense and defense have both looked completely inept so far. Fully expecting KU to either be shut out or only score once ISU starts mixing in the back ups on defense.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Whither JoJo ?:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Whither JoJo ?:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Whither JoJo ?:
Simmons for Harden. Let's get weird.
Too weird for me
What, you don’t want to go back to the 90’s when 3’s were alien life forms?
I don't want my Rockets getting rid of Harden!!!
Sounds like it will be St. Joseph's as the 4th team in Ft. Meyer's and will be KU's opponent on Nov. 27.
@Kcmatt7 said in Whither JoJo ?:
There were rumors of them moving Simmons last year. I don't think you do. Keep him and JoJo together.
What they need to do is find a way to move Horford to a bad team.
Philly has to move one of them (Embiid or Simmons) because they don't work together at all. Bad teams won't take Horford's contract because there's too much time left on it.
One interesting possibility I've seen is deal between Houston and Philly that centers around swapping Horford and Eric Gordon. Houston needs a low post threat and Horford's game would be a nice for with Harden and Westbrook and Eric Gordon would give Philly a shooter that they need.
@jayballer67 If you want fair, take your ass to the YMCA or some other fair play league. Major college sports has NEVER been about being fair and never will be about being fair.
@jayballer67 said in Well Might as well be Empty Phog:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Well Might as well be Empty Phog:
@jayballer67 I'd rather have medical experts in each community decide what is a safe number to have inside each arena. Basketball arenas aren't football or baseball stadiums that are almost exclusively outdoor venues with much better ventilation that reduces the risk of transmission. These are indoor venues that mostly rely on recirculated air which increases the risk of transmission.
I don't want someone sitting in a corporate office in Dallas determining what is safe in Lawrence, Kansas. I want health officials in Lawrence that are familiar with the Covid situations in the Lawrence, KC, and Topeka areas determining what is safe for Allen Fieldhouse to minimize the risk of transmission. I want local health officials determining what is a safe capacity in each arena because each community has different issues and risks that determine what an appropriate capacity should be.
Even the NFL hasn't standardized the capacity of each team's stadium. They have allowed local health officials to determine what is safe and that's the way it should be.
I'm just not OK with an un fair playing field when it comes to the sports side of it. - - Again hell let's just not let or allow ANY fans in - -that way not imbalanced any where and a lot less chance of COVID if we wanna go that route.
But to allow some Colleges to allow more fans then others ? - -You can twist this around in any shape or form you want to try but you'll NEVER get me to agree with that BS when you get to the Sport aspect of it. We all know fans can help make it rougher - -we have seen it from our own PHOG when the place gets to rocking - you don't think that doesn't effect the other opposing team?
So If we are Allowing a Team like Baylor or Tech to come to the Phog and play before only 1,500 fans and thein return we have to go play in front of their packed arena's? - just because the COVID is less there? - -there is NO WAY that is a fair balanced schedule. - -in the sports aspect you talking about messing with a teams schedule - - their ranking - - and their positioning for post season and even possibly not making a post season if the fan difference makes difference which we know how it does - -there is just NO WAY in hell that's on a even field - - NOPE - - NOPE - - NOPE
So to satisify - - let's just not allow any fans in any arena's if were worried because of the COVID which we should be worried but just saying to allow otherwise - - umm no that DOES NOT work
Since when has sports ever been about being fair? Is it fair the FBI and NCAA targeted Adidas schools while not investigating Duke or Kentucky's recruiting practices?
If a 1,500 limit for AFH is what it will take to see KU play basketball this season while Baylor is at 25%, then so be it. Life and sports have never been about being fair.
@jayballer67 I'd rather have medical experts in each community decide what is a safe number to have inside each arena. Basketball arenas aren't football or baseball stadiums that are almost exclusively outdoor venues with much better ventilation that reduces the risk of transmission. These are indoor venues that mostly rely on recirculated air which increases the risk of transmission.
I don't want someone sitting in a corporate office in Dallas determining what is safe in Lawrence, Kansas. I want health officials in Lawrence that are familiar with the Covid situations in the Lawrence, KC, and Topeka areas determining what is safe for Allen Fieldhouse to minimize the risk of transmission. I want local health officials determining what is a safe capacity in each arena because each community has different issues and risks that determine what an appropriate capacity should be.
Even the NFL hasn't standardized the capacity of each team's stadium. They have allowed local health officials to determine what is safe and that's the way it should be.
@jayballer67 Why would the Big 12 set a standard capacity when not each county each school is in is the same? I'm fine with letting Douglas County officials determine what KU's capacity should be along with whichever county government there is for each school.
So Silvio beat the shit out of someone after leaving a New Year's party at one of the bars/clubs on Mass St. it sounds like.
I'm guessing Silvio was blackout drunk if he doesn't remember the incident, but I'm still wondering why it took LPD almost 9 months to investigate this incident and present the case to the DA's office?
@Kcmatt7 said in Self flips to x-axis ball in AFH!:
This team is set up to drive, draw fouls or kick out for an open 3, and play lockdown defense.
So, the Mike D'Antoni system? lol
Nope, because Self isn't going to run much iso except for the end of half. This team is suited for pick and roll, screen and roll, and pick and pop which isn't D'Antoni ball.