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@BeddieKU23 said in Updated 2020-21 Kansas Basketball Schedule:

@BShark @jayballer67

Meh, KU can win that game.

Zags are pretty much the same as KU coming in. Experience at PG, SF & C. They will likely start a 5 star guard & Soph in the post who was injured & missed half the season. They lose 17.5, 13.6, 10.7 & 10.1 ppg from that team that averaged 87 a game. 8 of their 11 guys will be Soph/Fr.

I'll take my chances predicting KU can win this one

The 5 star guard is Jalen Suggs who's going to be their PG so they're not experienced at the PG spot, but Suggs is an elite level talent though.

@Kcmatt7 Please don't ever ask for the Mike D'Antoni system at KU. It's not a championship winning formula at any level. It also doesn't fit the strengths of this roster because KU is not an elite shooting team and KU doesn't have the rebounding to play that small for more than short stretches.

This team is set up to drive, draw fouls or kick out for an open 3, and play lockdown defense.

I think KU should actually beat Gonzaga if it ends up as the opening night game.

Yes, Gonzaga is absolutely loaded and will be on the short list of title favorites this season, but they will be starting a true freshman at PG in his first college game. Jalen Suggs will be a lottery pick in the 2021 and is by far the most high profile recruit Mark Few has ever landed, but Suggs will still be making his college debut against Marcus Garrett and we all know Garrett is going to want to make a statement against Suggs.

@BeddieKU23 said in Updated 2020-21 Kansas Basketball Schedule:

huge news.

KU will play Gonzaga on Nov 25th in Fort Myers

This isn't set in stone yet, but from Gonzaga's SBNation page, it sounds like it's going to be a 4 team event involving Kansas, Gonzaga, Auburn, and a 4th team TBD. Kansas and Gonzaga will play Nov. 25 along with Auburn vs. the 4th team that same night. Then on Nov. 27, it would be Gonzaga vs. Auburn and KU vs. TBD.

In the Athletic's article yesterday about the cancellation of the Orlando bubble, it sounded like ESPN was still trying to salvage the Champions Classic which will still happen once they find a site (Indianapolis sounds like the favorite there) and the Jimmy V Classic. Michigan State was mentioned in the Athletic article along with Kansas and Gonzaga as teams ESPN was interested in for the Jimmy V this year so it's possible Michigan St. could end up being the 4th team in Ft. Meyers.

So a couple of things about the schedule, sounds like there's a good chance the Wooden Legacy isn't happening as ESPN abandoned the idea of playing their preseason tournaments in Orlando.

Also, the Tarleton St. game was scheduled because of Self's friendship with their head coach who is former Texas A&M and Kentucky coach Billy Gillispie.

@wissox I've known about Tarleton St. for years because I've had a couple of friends go to school there. It's in a town about an hour southwest of Ft. Worth. They had been a D2 school, but apparently moved up to D1 this year as part of the WAC.

It looks like there's still 3 games to fill with 2 of them likely being the Wooden Legacy games and then looking to fill one other non-conference game between Kentucky and NDSU.

KU's website has an updated schedule for KU posted now. The only games missing are the two in Orlando for the altered Wooden Legacy over Thanksgiving.

The new schedule is as listed on KU's website.

Dec. 1: Kentucky (site TBA)

Dec. 5: North Dakota State (Lawrence)

Dec. 8: Creighton (Lawrence, B12/Big East Challenge)

Dec. 11: Omaha (Lawrence)

Dec. 13: Tarleton St. (Lawrence)

Dec. 17: @Texas Tech (Lubbock)

Dec. 22: West Virginia (Lawrence)

Jan. 2: Texas (Lawrence)

Jan. 5: @TCU (Ft. Worth)

Jan. 9: Oklahoma (Lawrence)

Jan. 12: @Oklahoma State (Stillwater)

Jan. 16: Iowa State (Lawrence)

Jan. 18: @Baylor (Waco)

Jan. 23: @Oklahoma (Norman)

Jan. 26: TCU (Lawrence)

Jan. 30: @Tennessee (Knoxville)

Feb. 2: Kansas State (Lawrence)

Feb. 6: @West Virginia (Morgantown)

Feb. 8: Oklahoma State

Feb. 13: @Iowa State (Ames)

Feb. 16: @Kansas State

Feb. 20: Texas Tech (Lawrence)

Feb. 22: @Texas (Austin)

Feb. 27: Baylor (Lawrence)

Mar. 10-13: Big 12 Tournament (Kansas City)

Comparing KU's case to Arizona's is pretty much comparing apples to oranges. There's not much in common in regards to the specifics of the violations each school is accused of.

The best comparison to what'll happen to KU is the NC State case and even that's not completely the same because NC State has some charges related to their assistant coach that was caught red-handed so NC State is going to get more severe punishment than KU.

Out the cases going to the IARP from the FBI investigation, KU has the best chance of getting off with minimal punishment because a lot of the NCAA's accusations against KU can be argued as the NCAA coercing KU in regards to the Silvio case.

I still fully expect KU to get hit with probation, loss of scholarships, and vacating games Silvio and Cheick Diallo played in, but I don't expect any postseason bans or coaches getting hit with a show-cause like some other schools are likely to get.

@FarmerJayhawk Ben Easters is a better all around QB prospect than Daniels. Jalon Daniels is a good athlete playing QB, but he's not a good QB. I'm assuming he got put a QB in HS or middle school because he was the best athlete. I view Daniels ceiling about where I always viewed Carter Stanley and that's best suited as a back up QB.

Apparently Jalon Daniels is KU's best punter.

Special teams was so bad in the first half that I forgot that KSU's only offensive TD was set up because of a Lassiter muffed punt that gave KSU a short field.

@BeddieKU23 said in Self flips to x-axis ball in AFH!:

We definitely have the personnel to run 5 out. Wonder who'd be the 5 in those looks. Could be anyone

KU has 6 guards total on the roster and if we see Garrett or Ochai at the 5, then KU is dealing with major foul issues or injuries to Dave and Mitch.

If Self's referring to having a stretch 4 like Tristan, Wilson, or TGF at the 5 at times, that's not a 5 guard line up.

34-7 at halftime and the defense has been the only decent aspect of the game for KU. Three of KSU's 4 TD's in the first half have come off a pick 6 and two punt returns including one to end the half.

The offense has been dogshit with Jalon Daniels running for his life basically being the offense today.

Holy hell the special teams today. Missed a 40 yard FG, injured punter, and gave up 2 punt returns for TD's.

I'm sorry to anyone that thinks Jalon Daniels is the future at QB, but he is absolute trash at QB. That pick six he threw was just bad. He's made one good throw today. Daniels is better than Kendrick because Daniels can somewhat scramble unlike Kendrick, but there is not a competent QB on the roster. KU's best QB is currently playing HS ball in Indiana. There is no reason Ben Easters shouldn't be the starting QB when KU opens the season in 2021.

@FarmerJayhawk said in Late Night:

Apparently this was filmed back in like July so we basically learn nothing. A Late Night tradition unlike any other.

I thought Self said during the broadcast the scrimmage was recorded from the first practice of the season last week.

@FarmerJayhawk 170 lbs. is really small even for someone of his playmaking ability at the NFL level. He's also probably going to have to change positions and improve his route running and become more of a Tyreek Hill type playmaker mostly playing at WR and return man because he won't last at his size at RB in the NFL.

So which SEC program is Pooka playing for the next 2 years?

@Marco This semester would've been his 6th semester of college, still would've been a semester short if on a non accelerated degree plan.

@jayballer67 Changing from one shit option to the next isn't going change anything. As bad as KU has been at QB this year, do really think playing someone at that spot who moved from the position is going to change anything?

If Locklin had any potential as a QB he would've been put into the line up last year and been the starter this year. Locklin was moved because he wasn't even good enough to compete with MacVittie, Daniels, or Kendrick.

@jayballer67 Torry Locklin isn't a QB anymore. He got moved to RB or WR in the off-season.

24-10 after 3 and WVU looking to score again. Defense has played very well today, but there's just no offense to help them out. Even KU's only TD today should've been a WVU interception.

Good read by the DT on that screen to get the pick.

I'm impressed that KU has kept it this competitive, but I think it's just a matter of time until the defense wears out because the offense hasn't done that much today. If WVU stops shooting themselves in the foot with penalties, this game will probably get out of hand in the 2nd half.

Damn, Feaster ejected for targeting.

@BShark There's not another option though at QB. MacVittie and Daniels are still injured.

@wissox Silvio himself was never the problem, he's merely a symptom of the issue of recruiting of African prospects and the corruption and exploitation of those kids during recruitment by their guardians who could care less about the NCAA.

KU got off to a hot start by forcing their first TO of the year and getting a FG and then scoring a TD on their next possession.

WVU answered with a TD of their own to make it 10-7 on a bomb and then Kendrick threw an absolutely terrible interception into quadruple coverage.

The defense despite the big play has been very impressive so far today.

Les Miles is not in Morgantown today and TE coach Josh Eargle is serving as HC today.

@jayhawks2010 I got a bridge to sell you if you think KU was in the dark about Billy Preston. He was only suspended and self reported because the car accident that led to he departure would've blown up had KU not reported Preston at that point.

Silvio's been through a lot in his 2.5 years at KU. The hoops he had to go through to get eligible midseason, all the shit with the NCAA the following year, the KSU incident last season.

Self said Silvio hadn't been himself during workouts so I'm guessing everything Silvio's been through the past 2.5 years has just worn him down and a change of scenery and a fresh start somewhere else probably is what Silvio needs personally.

Gregg Marshall is now under investigation by Wichita State due to allegations of misconduct towards his players. WSU has had six players either transfer out or decommit since the spring. Sounds like a decent chance he could be done in Wichita. Should've taken UCLA, Texas, Alabama, or NC State when he had the chance because I doubt anyone good is going to come calling now if WSU fires Marshall.

https://kuathletics.com/statements-from-les-miles-and-jeff-long/ ↗

Sounds like Les is currently asymptomatic at this point and is hopeful to be able to be on the sidelines for KU's next game against WVU on Oct. 17.

@jayhawks2010 39% in HS really isn't that good for someone who's supposed to be considered a good shooter. Shooting percentage doesn't increase when you step up a level and Jalen was terrible shooting in what action he did have in the first couple of exhibitions and games. He also had an injury that didn't really allow him to be able to do much until he was fully recovered which wasn't until the end of the season.

If Jalen Wilson's shooting isn't significantly improved, he's going to be the odd man out and I really wouldn't be surprised if he transfers out after this season.

@FarmerJayhawk said in Other bball news:

@rockchalkwyo said in Other bball news:

How will an extra year effect Mitch, Silvio, and Garrett? Will they stay for another senior year?

Early prediction. Silvio stays (claim the year the NCAA took from him, unjustly), Garrett and Mitch leave. Garrett is a pro, and Mitch will he basically done with a master’s so no reason to hang around.

Is the NCAA giving an extra year of eligibility to winter sports athletes though?

@approxinfinity Being able to drive the ball will lead to a lot of trips to the FT lime which will offset some of the 3 point shooting though. Also, this team is going to be elite defensively on the perimeter so I don't see very many teams being able to torch KU from deep next season.

@AsadZ You can't run the same plays with a 1st year player that you can with a 4th or 5th year player. Dearmon can only expand the playbook as much as Daniels can handle when Daniels is in the game.

It's pretty clear that Daniels doesn't know how to read a defense yet which is an absolute must in order to effectively run an RPO based offense like Dearmon's. That hole in Daniels game limits what Dearmon can call when Daniels is in the game.

Dearmon can use more of the playbook when Kendrick is in the game, but Kendrick just isn't good enough execute those plays consistently.

@jayballer67 said in Homecoming vs. Cowpokes:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Homecoming vs. Cowpokes:

@jayballer67 said in Homecoming vs. Cowpokes:

people say we can't drop football because it's the majority revenue maker - can't see how that's possible when it's as lousy as it is - -I would have to think Our Basketball has to be pushing the - I mean this is close to embarrassing. - Teams drool at the mouth when they see KU coming up on their schedule - -time to pad the stats - -Good GOD man

It's because of the TV contracts with ESPN/Fox. That's where the majority of the football revenue comes from.

makes sense but man can't figure out WHY ESPN and FOX would even want to broadcast such an diaster - -I would think the viewership the ratings would be really really low

Because they are contractually obligated to broadcast every B12 football game. 2:30 on ESPN is not a prime broadcast slot because it's not ABC/CBS. None of KU's 3 games so far have been in desirable broadcast spots.

@jayballer67 said in Homecoming vs. Cowpokes:

Dam , the real question is WHERE are we seeing any improvement ? - I mean this offensive line is just BAD. If you can maintain a block for more then 0ne two seconds and no create any kind of a hole for even as talented as Pooka is - - how the hell can you expect ANY kind of a running game? - - you really can't blame ANY of our QB'S when they are constantly running for their lives , can't even begin to let a play develop because the O-line can't hold a block.

This team is really really sad. Hard to phantom this team generates any kind of revenue for the Athletic program. Hard to generate revenue wit empty stands, that's where were headed. - -I just don't see ANY improvement no signs of encourgment - just terrible play

It's not entirely on the OLine. The QB's are zero threat passing the football so defenses are stacking the box and blitzing at will. Bender and Stanley were good enough passers that defenses to respect their passing abilities and open things up for Pooka. MacVittie, Daniels, and Kendrick are all terrible passers so defenses will load up to stop the run because none of those three are good enough to win games on their own and get the ball consistently to the WR's who are actually a decent group of receivers.

@jayballer67 said in Homecoming vs. Cowpokes:

people say we can't drop football because it's the majority revenue maker - can't see how that's possible when it's as lousy as it is - -I would have to think Our Basketball has to be pushing the - I mean this is close to embarrassing. - Teams drool at the mouth when they see KU coming up on their schedule - -time to pad the stats - -Good GOD man

It's because of the TV contracts with ESPN/Fox. That's where the majority of the football revenue comes from.

And Daniels going back to the locker room so probably done for the day.

@nwhawkfan Not a voluntary QB change though. This is a QB change due to injury as Daniels hurt his leg taking a sack.

Looks like crowd is at max capacity of what's allowed.

@nwhawkfan Defense can't stay off the field because the offense can't do anything. And sounds like the depth in defense was already depleted going into this game so fatigue looks like it's setting in early.

Does KU score before OSU calls off the dogs sometime in the second half? The offense is absolute garbage.

The defense hasn't been terrible, but if the offense keeps giving OSU a short field, this game will get real ugly real fast.

The offense is going to look very different this season than last year. Last year, the offense went through Some and that won't happen this year because Dave isn't a dominant low post monster. This year's offense should be much more about motion, screens, and picks because driving to the basket is going to be the strength of the offense this year. Have Dave come up and set screens/picks for Garrett and Thompson, stick Braun in a corner and have whoever the 4 in the game at the time is clean up the offensive glass if needed.

I don't see a big drop off, if any, in offense this season, just a different looking offense. Defense is where the drop off will be and that's because Dave isn't the rim protector Doke was. That said, this team will be extremely long like some of the early 2010 teams were. KU won't have anyone under 6-5 on the floor most of the time and they have two guys that can very effectively guard 1-4 in Garrett and Agbaji.

This season may not be as elite as last season, but this is still a team more than capable of making the Final Four and being a title contender.

To me, the biggest X-factor on this team is going to be Silvio. Now that he's had an off-season of not dealing with NCAA crap, hopefully the light will come on for him this season and him and Dave can split the time at the 5 equally. We know Silvio's potential, it's just a matter of the light coming on for him to consistently be the player he was in the 2018 B12 tournament.

@jayballer67 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:

@jayballer67 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:

@jayballer67 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:

@jayballer67 So people employed by JTV, which is part of Kansas Athletics, are going to give unbiased and neutral opinions about Kansas football?

This is just some of the snippets from Les's post game conference last night and they don't really sound like an endorsement of Daniels going forward.

"While Miles stated during his postgame video press conference he wasn’t “displeased” with Daniels “in any way,” KU’s head coach didn’t commit to starting the freshman again next week..."

Curious phrasing even for Les in regards to how Daniels played last night. There's a lot of choices there to express satisfaction with someone's play and Les didn't exactly come across like Dainels earned the job going forward.

"Miles said MacVittie wasn’t actually available for the Big 12 opener in Waco, Texas..."

“Thomas wasn’t healthy at this point,” Miles admitted afterward, though the coach had said during the week leading up to the game he expected KU’s senior QB to be available and see the field.

Sounds like the staff expected MacVittie to be ready, but he still isn't and since no details were given as to what MacVittie's actual injury is, speculation is there is there at this point as to the exact nature of the injury.

The post game press conference paints more of a picture of Miles and Dearmon being forced into playing Daniels because MacVittie was still too banged up to play last night.

But what do I know, I'm not a former Kansas football player getting paid by Kansas Athletics to express opinions about Kansas football. I'm just a guy that's been involved in playing/coaching football for the better part of 15 years of my life.

Jalon Daniels is not a P5 caliber QB. It doesn't strike you as odd that a supposed 3* recruit from one the the top 5 recruiting areas nationally in the greater Los Angeles area can't even get a scholarship offer from a Mountain West team, let alone a P12 program despite being in their backyards? That's telling of what local scouts thought of his talent.

There's a reason why after all of the practices leading up to the CC games, Miles and Dearmon had evaluated Daniels as being the third best option. I think Daniels is abetter option than Miles Kendrick, but that's not saying much because I doubt Kendrick is still in a KU uniform next season with Easters coming in.

It'd be one thing if Les and/or Dearmon were out saying that Daniels was the future at QB and they were looking towards developing the future, but that's not the message being sent by Miles. The message we got last night was Miles was expecting MacVittie to be healthy enough to play last night, but wasn't and was forced to play a true freshman at QB who isn't ready to play big snaps yet.

well get ready sparky , cause your going to see a WHOLE LOT more of that freshman QB who isn't ready to take snaps. - oh ya and thanks for the info but I hear Les post game and he was satisified,

Ya your right your not a former Kansas football player getting paid by Kansas athletics - GOD can work miracles lol , - - those same former football players you trying to say is biased - -could be saying the same biased things about MacVittie but guess what - - they didn't hmmmmm, wonder why still the same amount of money - -you think Daniels might be paying them off to have them talk positive about him ? - - ya that's it.

gotcha your the only person tha'ts been involved in football Coaching and play football lmao - - - you are so dam funny it's pathetic

MacVittle just swarmed with P-5 offers right? - -please list all his Colleges at the P-5 that wanted him canya - -impressive list I'm sure & he was soo dam sweet he transferred out to a Juco and still couldn't do crap right? - -you got the guys mixed up - - MacVittie sure the hell is no P-5 QB.

But you wearing me out don't have time to keep talking with a wall so now this is going to close as I don't want to drag this out and have people saying we need to stop - -so we agree and stop. You have your view and others will have theirs - -COACH , have a great day. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Please tell me where the hell I said MacVittie was a great QB? All I've claimed is he's better than Jalon Daniels which isn't saying much. The JTV guys talked about Daniels because he's the one who played last night because MacVittie was still injured in case that fact still hasn't sunk in for you yet.

The actual numbers that rate QB still same the same thing they said before the game, Thomas MacVittie is the better QB over Jalon Daniels. Les Miles was pretty
much asked point blank of Jalon Daniels would be the starter going forward and basically gave an answer that strongly implied that MacVittie would be back under center once MacVittie gets healthy.

didn't I say I'm done with this - -do you have a reading comprehension problem? - -

You say you're done a lot, but keep responding so apparently you're not done, at least based on your actions. You said you were done posting at least 3 times last night to stuff not even related to anything I said yet you kept coming back and posting more. I also never said I was done so unless someone is forcing you to keep responding, that sounds like it's you're own problem and you can't stop yourself from responding.

see you just felt the need to respond AGAIN RIGHT - -roflmmfao - -you wear me out OK you win umm Coach ? - I'm done no wait what ? lmao - ok so now I'm telling you I'm done so let it go - do you need for me to slow it down for you so you can comprehend - -DO NOT RESPOND TO MY LAAST RESPONSE

Nobody is forcing you to respond to my posts except yourself. If you truly want to be done, then just stop responding instead of saying you're done, but keep responding to me. If you're going to keep responding after you say you're done, I'm going to keep responding and calling out your own hypocrisy. Are you capable of doing what you say you're going to do, or are you going to keep responding to me and I keep doing what I'm telling you I'm going to do?

@jayballer67 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:

@jayballer67 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:

@jayballer67 So people employed by JTV, which is part of Kansas Athletics, are going to give unbiased and neutral opinions about Kansas football?

This is just some of the snippets from Les's post game conference last night and they don't really sound like an endorsement of Daniels going forward.

"While Miles stated during his postgame video press conference he wasn’t “displeased” with Daniels “in any way,” KU’s head coach didn’t commit to starting the freshman again next week..."

Curious phrasing even for Les in regards to how Daniels played last night. There's a lot of choices there to express satisfaction with someone's play and Les didn't exactly come across like Dainels earned the job going forward.

"Miles said MacVittie wasn’t actually available for the Big 12 opener in Waco, Texas..."

“Thomas wasn’t healthy at this point,” Miles admitted afterward, though the coach had said during the week leading up to the game he expected KU’s senior QB to be available and see the field.

Sounds like the staff expected MacVittie to be ready, but he still isn't and since no details were given as to what MacVittie's actual injury is, speculation is there is there at this point as to the exact nature of the injury.

The post game press conference paints more of a picture of Miles and Dearmon being forced into playing Daniels because MacVittie was still too banged up to play last night.

But what do I know, I'm not a former Kansas football player getting paid by Kansas Athletics to express opinions about Kansas football. I'm just a guy that's been involved in playing/coaching football for the better part of 15 years of my life.

Jalon Daniels is not a P5 caliber QB. It doesn't strike you as odd that a supposed 3* recruit from one the the top 5 recruiting areas nationally in the greater Los Angeles area can't even get a scholarship offer from a Mountain West team, let alone a P12 program despite being in their backyards? That's telling of what local scouts thought of his talent.

There's a reason why after all of the practices leading up to the CC games, Miles and Dearmon had evaluated Daniels as being the third best option. I think Daniels is abetter option than Miles Kendrick, but that's not saying much because I doubt Kendrick is still in a KU uniform next season with Easters coming in.

It'd be one thing if Les and/or Dearmon were out saying that Daniels was the future at QB and they were looking towards developing the future, but that's not the message being sent by Miles. The message we got last night was Miles was expecting MacVittie to be healthy enough to play last night, but wasn't and was forced to play a true freshman at QB who isn't ready to play big snaps yet.

well get ready sparky , cause your going to see a WHOLE LOT more of that freshman QB who isn't ready to take snaps. - oh ya and thanks for the info but I hear Les post game and he was satisified,

Ya your right your not a former Kansas football player getting paid by Kansas athletics - GOD can work miracles lol , - - those same former football players you trying to say is biased - -could be saying the same biased things about MacVittie but guess what - - they didn't hmmmmm, wonder why still the same amount of money - -you think Daniels might be paying them off to have them talk positive about him ? - - ya that's it.

gotcha your the only person tha'ts been involved in football Coaching and play football lmao - - - you are so dam funny it's pathetic

MacVittle just swarmed with P-5 offers right? - -please list all his Colleges at the P-5 that wanted him canya - -impressive list I'm sure & he was soo dam sweet he transferred out to a Juco and still couldn't do crap right? - -you got the guys mixed up - - MacVittie sure the hell is no P-5 QB.

But you wearing me out don't have time to keep talking with a wall so now this is going to close as I don't want to drag this out and have people saying we need to stop - -so we agree and stop. You have your view and others will have theirs - -COACH , have a great day. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Please tell me where the hell I said MacVittie was a great QB? All I've claimed is he's better than Jalon Daniels which isn't saying much. The JTV guys talked about Daniels because he's the one who played last night because MacVittie was still injured in case that fact still hasn't sunk in for you yet.

The actual numbers that rate QB still same the same thing they said before the game, Thomas MacVittie is the better QB over Jalon Daniels. Les Miles was pretty
much asked point blank of Jalon Daniels would be the starter going forward and basically gave an answer that strongly implied that MacVittie would be back under center once MacVittie gets healthy.

didn't I say I'm done with this - -do you have a reading comprehension problem? - -

You say you're done a lot, but keep responding so apparently you're not done, at least based on your actions. You said you were done posting at least 3 times last night to stuff not even related to anything I said yet you kept coming back and posting more. I also never said I was done so unless someone is forcing you to keep responding, that sounds like it's you're own problem and you can't stop yourself from responding.

@jayballer67 And as for offers MacVittie had coming out of Juco, I guess Vanderbilt is no longer a P5.

@jayballer67 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:

@jayballer67 So people employed by JTV, which is part of Kansas Athletics, are going to give unbiased and neutral opinions about Kansas football?

This is just some of the snippets from Les's post game conference last night and they don't really sound like an endorsement of Daniels going forward.

"While Miles stated during his postgame video press conference he wasn’t “displeased” with Daniels “in any way,” KU’s head coach didn’t commit to starting the freshman again next week..."

Curious phrasing even for Les in regards to how Daniels played last night. There's a lot of choices there to express satisfaction with someone's play and Les didn't exactly come across like Dainels earned the job going forward.

"Miles said MacVittie wasn’t actually available for the Big 12 opener in Waco, Texas..."

“Thomas wasn’t healthy at this point,” Miles admitted afterward, though the coach had said during the week leading up to the game he expected KU’s senior QB to be available and see the field.

Sounds like the staff expected MacVittie to be ready, but he still isn't and since no details were given as to what MacVittie's actual injury is, speculation is there is there at this point as to the exact nature of the injury.

The post game press conference paints more of a picture of Miles and Dearmon being forced into playing Daniels because MacVittie was still too banged up to play last night.

But what do I know, I'm not a former Kansas football player getting paid by Kansas Athletics to express opinions about Kansas football. I'm just a guy that's been involved in playing/coaching football for the better part of 15 years of my life.

Jalon Daniels is not a P5 caliber QB. It doesn't strike you as odd that a supposed 3* recruit from one the the top 5 recruiting areas nationally in the greater Los Angeles area can't even get a scholarship offer from a Mountain West team, let alone a P12 program despite being in their backyards? That's telling of what local scouts thought of his talent.

There's a reason why after all of the practices leading up to the CC games, Miles and Dearmon had evaluated Daniels as being the third best option. I think Daniels is abetter option than Miles Kendrick, but that's not saying much because I doubt Kendrick is still in a KU uniform next season with Easters coming in.

It'd be one thing if Les and/or Dearmon were out saying that Daniels was the future at QB and they were looking towards developing the future, but that's not the message being sent by Miles. The message we got last night was Miles was expecting MacVittie to be healthy enough to play last night, but wasn't and was forced to play a true freshman at QB who isn't ready to play big snaps yet.

well get ready sparky , cause your going to see a WHOLE LOT more of that freshman QB who isn't ready to take snaps. - oh ya and thanks for the info but I hear Les post game and he was satisified,

Ya your right your not a former Kansas football player getting paid by Kansas athletics - GOD can work miracles lol , - - those same former football players you trying to say is biased - -could be saying the same biased things about MacVittie but guess what - - they didn't hmmmmm, wonder why still the same amount of money - -you think Daniels might be paying them off to have them talk positive about him ? - - ya that's it.

gotcha your the only person tha'ts been involved in football Coaching and play football lmao - - - you are so dam funny it's pathetic

MacVittle just swarmed with P-5 offers right? - -please list all his Colleges at the P-5 that wanted him canya - -impressive list I'm sure & he was soo dam sweet he transferred out to a Juco and still couldn't do crap right? - -you got the guys mixed up - - MacVittie sure the hell is no P-5 QB.

But you wearing me out don't have time to keep talking with a wall so now this is going to close as I don't want to drag this out and have people saying we need to stop - -so we agree and stop. You have your view and others will have theirs - -COACH , have a great day. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Please tell me where the hell I said MacVittie was a great QB? All I've claimed is he's better than Jalon Daniels which isn't saying much. The JTV guys talked about Daniels because he's the one who played last night because MacVittie was still injured in case that fact still hasn't sunk in for you yet.

The actual numbers that rate QB still same the same thing they said before the game, Thomas MacVittie is the better QB over Jalon Daniels. Les Miles was pretty
much asked point blank of Jalon Daniels would be the starter going forward and basically gave an answer that strongly implied that MacVittie would be back under center once MacVittie gets healthy.

@jayhawks2010 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:

@Texas-Hawk-10 honestly like what’s the upside of MacVittie. At least playing Daniels you have the ability to see if the kid has it, and if he doesn’t show progression you know recruiting wise to move on. This team won’t make a bowl game!!!! MacVittie had his chance week one and blew it against a mid major team. Daniels has D1 athleticism and arm strength. Maybe he will be a cozart and struggle with field vision. But I’d rather sit and watch to see if he progresses then the alternative.

Only problem with that philosophy is that isn't what the coaching has said their goal is though. They've been implying their goal to win now in which case Jalon Daniels isn't the best QB to reach that goal. Analytics say MacVittie is the best QB KU has right now when healthy. Jalon Dainels has QBR of 22 right now while MacVittie has a QBR of 33. Neither number is very good since 50 is average.

Jon Daniels does have a cannon for an arm, by far the strongest of any of the 3 in the mix to start right now. That doesn't address that Daniels is also the least accurate of the three. I lost track of how many overthrows Daniels had last night. The analyst, who was a former QB, also spent some time pointing out how Daniels lack of touch and placement on short passes that prevented his receivers from having a chance to break plays open because they had to stop or ow down to adjust to Daniels throws which gave defenders a chance to stop the receivers then and there.

Daniels arm strength also isn't that relevant this year because the OLine isn't good enough to give receivers a chance to get deep. KU needs a QB who is accurate on short and intermediate passes to help open up the running game and Jalon Daniels lacks the touch to make those throws.