@JayHawkFanToo you talkin bout Tyrone Tanner?

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@Blown if you don't believe there is a vast difference in character between Grayson Allen and Josh Jackson then I'm not sure there's much of a point in going through the differences or lack there of as we see them, but I'll try.

Grayson trips, elbows, and pushes opposing players near every game he is in, often putting them in positions where they might seriously get injured. He throws tantrums on the bench, and walks through opposing huddles, resulting in shoving matches. He flails his arms and falls to the floor on drives routinely trying to solicit whistles. In the most clutch moments of the game, Grayson is anything but. He wilts under pressure. Grayson is universally reviled by the opposing fans and the nation. The only people in his camp are his mother, his coach, maybe a few teammates, and Ted Cruz. He is an embarrassment to Duke basketball.

Josh Jackson never plays dirty. His ONE incident involved kicking a car in support of a teammate he thought was mistreated. On the court, he is passionate but has figured out his freshman year staying under control when on the floor. In clutch moments of the game, he dunks over people, hits big shots, locks down on D and finds open teammates. He is a star and beloved by his fans, teammates and Coach. He is humble and respectful with fans off the court. All indications point to him being a good guy and solid embassador for the university.

These two kids are in most respects polar opposites.

@ralster it's hard to assess his physical talent level when he is so clearly nuts. Imagine interviewing a job candidate that you know liked to routinely trip people around the office at his last job.

@HighEliteMajor completely agree. I loved EJ. Dude was a warrior in my book, and the quick hook he got for 4 years from Self was not good for him.

He showed up big in the 2012 tournament along with the rest of the starters, and that was mostly because Self had no bench to go to and had no choice but let them play through their mistakes.

@jaybate-1.0 I do think he shares the same disability as Elizabeth Lambert, the girl soccer player that kept mauling her opponents, Mike Tyson when he entered his biting phase, and Luis Suarez, the Uraguayan soccer biter.

I don't think he can or will stop, and I don't think he should be playing sports where he is in close physical proximity with anyone else. Tennis has room for completely self-absorbed divas like him. See Serena Williams.

@BeddieKU23 I'm starting to hope.

GAME OVER

How bout 3 steps, Kennard.

What GM wants a sociopath that wilts under pressure?

@Blown that's not fair to Josh.

@brooksmd I don't think he's going to make it to the league. If he does he's not going to play enough minutes for anything meaningful to happen.

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(I know I'm reposting this but it cracks me up)

@DCHawker hopefully Svi is just deferring to the alpha dogs and will step up big when we need him like his huge 3s in the Kentucky game.

I'm so glad we recovered from our playbook getting decimated when all the starters left in 2012 and we were in OAD mode. Back to beautiful team ball.

@cragarhawk I love those baseline turn around jumpers off glass. As @globaljaybird said... Old school. So good

Underwood does know he's not gonna have a backcourt like this for a few years. Wanted this one bad I'm sure.

@BeddieKU23 we did take care of business!

@Crimsonorblue22 nm

Andrew White dropped 40 today. Good for him!

@Crimsonorblue22 Frank?

Glad we could cut away so quick to Kennards blank Beaker looking face.

"alright Juwon. See you in the league" - #BIFM

Lagerald with the Ice. Smooth!

British Institute of Facilities Management. Lol

BIFM

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And that's 20 and 5 avg for Frank. Sweet

"Joe! Joe! Joe! What did he do?" - BS

Cough on Frank's dust fellas

I am enjoying Good Lagerald.

@RockChalkinTexas agreed. Finding open shots. Frank needs those assists to get to 20 and 5 avg.

Solid footwork by Lucas this half.

Wow Evans.

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@TheDrunkenJhawk we have an answer for your question of four years ago. Yes, the best freshman PG was playing in Kansas.

@chriz Virginia's defense is as good as their offense is bad.

Reminds me of Maurice Levy from The Wire. So Sheisty.

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@jayballer54 every board has hyperbole man :smile: at least they're remaining positive.

@hawkmoon2020 he committee April 12th 2016, 324 days ago. I guess when you have guys like JJ committing 8 days after the tournament is over, the bitter offseasons arent too bad :smile:

@Crimsonorblue22 all that potential for the off season still ahead of us. Will we be basking in our teams glory or bitter disappointment for 223+ days?

@dylans me too man. Remember what the day after our tourney run is over feels like and we are waiting for the next season though?

@wissox daaaaaaamn Marcus!

@RockChalkinTexas "Surely there's another Bill Self out there...." lol.

I briefly looked at Snacks' twitter and just saw him saying goodbye to the senior managers and the senior players... Nothing stood out as indication he was going anywhere.. Did I miss something?

Josh Jackson FT % up 10 % pts in last 5 games. Landen practicing FTs after games. Lagerald (our best FT shooter) playing well enough to stay on floor for long stretches. And this tidbit from kansas.com ↗ about Frank's FTs....

I’ve never seen a basketball player who loves contact more. His specialty is driving into the lane, often without a lane, and creating contact. Mason has attempted 694 free throws in his career, the second most in KU history behind Valentine’s 754. Mason’s 446 makes are the fourth for a KU player behind Valentine (541), Manning (509) and Robisch (462).

@Bwag two things about that quote.

A. same sentiment well as what we were discussing: can't play like this in tourney and win.
B. acknowledgement that this game did not really matter ("...In a game that really matters")

Trial combat is not real combat. I believe this team will win the war.

I gotta go to bed. Work in am. Night man.

@cragarhawk lol. Those 3 treys were amazing!

@cragarhawk :smile: We ripped a good but young OU team to shreds in the last 7, a team that wanted this signature win badly to hang their hat on. Yes there was AFH. But damn if we aren't lethal. I agree with you that some of our wins have been nail biters. And that we dont want to let good teams hang around. But we won this one by 10, it wasn't close to a 1 possession game by the end. That with everything that went wrong and OU playing better than their age. So that's 3 in a row double digit wins isn't it?

@cragarhawk alright. I guess I'm taking "if we do this in the tourney, we will lose" as meaning "because we are doing this now, we are likely to do this in the tournament and lose". Isn't it implicit in your statement that you believe there to be a correlation between the performance at hand and the likely performance in the tourney? If no causation, then why mention the correlation?

@cragarhawk nothing wrong with different. I just don't think you're accounting for the fact it was senior night, or that this team has beaten plenty of good teams as well and are 27-3. You're assuming that the only predictor of tourney success is destroying everyone we play. Look at some of the UConn or Syracuse teams that went deep in the last decade. You don't have to blow everyone out to win it all.