Adrenaline just starting to wane from Hosmer's HR... GO ROYALS!
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@JayHawkFanToo LOL nice!
:beers: My fandom for the Royals is eclipsed only by my fandom for the Jayhawks!
Here's my favorite photo:
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@Crimsonorblue22 LOL!
The Royals are playing loose and with confidence and glee... Angels have all that talent, best record in the majors and on paper look like the dominant team. But the Royals are playing inspired baseball... the defense is spectacular. They look like they love being out there. That mentality is the x-factor so far.
They will need to fight off fatigue over the next couple of games, but taking Game 1 was critical to give them a chance.
@DoubleDD I was talking to Moose as well and thought I had the magic. Maybe our messages had some sort of cosmic harmonic convergence and determined the outcome! I'd like to think so!
props to @Statmachine for posting the link to the live press conference. very cool to watch!
Self compares Graham to Aaron Miles. Wow. That's a positive!
He says Alexander is physically the same as T-Rob.. also promising!
Self is considering pressing this year.. he thinks he has the players that can make the press work..
Self says that last years team wasn't as tough as typical KU team.. and says the staff didn't do what was necessary to toughen them up.
@JayHawkFanToo said:
Is this a sign of the times when players are more interested in scoring than quarterbacking the team and would be PGs now want to be known as SGs?
Curious question... I have no answer or educated opinion. I also wonder if bigs are born but guards are built?
@jaybate-1.0 said:
Some how I have deleted my own post and moved it to the bottom. My ineptitude has reached herculean proportions.
I've restored the lead post...
@JRyman said:
Remember when you HAD to lick stamps
Today we CHOOSE to lick stamps. This is advancement!
I hear ya.. I wish there was a way to grab those photos from the KU site (they have put them in some sort of a F!#@ing Flash gallery) and post them here... and then allow us to vote on which feature is the most impressive, most influential, and what has the potential to lead to hubris...
But whatever the upside or downside, the photos make it look beautiful. The wall photo of the field house is the thing I most want in my house.
Excellent breakdown.. I had no idea how a runner could read a pitcher before. The signs are so nuanced and subtle. The article, with the video clips, is very educational. Plus, it's fun to relive that game ;-)
This remodel is clearly aimed at recruits:
Remodeled Men's Basketball Locker Room ↗
Check out 18 photos of the facilities on the KU Athletics website.
CJ Online: KU great Wilt Chamberlain set to appear on postage stamp ↗
@Crimsonorblue22 Yeah.. I think you are referring to this one: How Jarrod Dyson Stole the Biggest Base of his Life ↗
So happy right now.. sitting in my Royals gear in Northern California ;-)
Ugh.. I don't even want to hear about the Gill hire anymore.. It's like an ugly memory from a drunken night that I want to believe didn't happen and would like to go away.
As disappointed as I am in CW, I think he did some good to the program. The Gill hire and tenure was a debacle.
Yeah, the system is flawed when winners and losers seem to be so similarly rewarded.
@JayhawkRock78 good point, and I agree with the mid-major win price. Still, that's what we've been paying for already. I'll modify the payouts below, but want to keep this idea of pay-for-performance model...
I guess a better question is: Would the pool of potential candidates (the interest in the position) change if we set up the job as pay-for-performance... $1m / conference victory. ($300k per non-conference victory.) ($1.5m / bowl victory)
That's a set up that would have cost us less than we've been paying for the current performance.
But the hope is that this model would allure the best candidates. A coach that believes in himself could make this his heaven -- making more than any other peer. Maybe we couldn't afford to go to a bowl game.. but can we afford to continue losing at this rate?
We paid CW $2.5m /year for the following victories :
- Central Michigan 2014
- SE Missouri State 2014
- West Virginia 2013
- LA Tech 2013
- South Dakota 2013
- South Dakota State 2012
TG was given a 5yr/$10m contract for the following victories:
- No Illinois 2011
- McNeese State 2011
- New Mexico St. 2010
- Georgia Tech 2010
- Colorado 2010
$1million/victory would be a salary reduction from what Turner Gill and Charlie Weiss made.
And right now, if someone came in and got 8 more wins out of this season, it would probably be worth $8 million dollars.
Do you think any coach would take the job if it was set up as pay-for-performance at a million per win?
The uniforms (any uniform) looks better when you are winning. I just wish they would use the colors that are our actual school colors.
One of these days, we'll win a big (or just win a) game in one of these novelty uniforms and it will immediately become the darling.
Well stated HEM. Plus, the uniforms were RED not CRIMSON. Our colors are CRIMSON (as in Harvard Crimson) and BLUE (as in YALE Blue).
The colors are tied to the university's history - http://www.ku.edu/about/traditions/colors/ ↗ ↗
This is what Harvard Crimson looks like:
This is Yale Blue:
Sad within the context.. but let's step back and recognize that he's getting paid 400k/year and a lot of expenses are covered as well. He will be able to earn at that level for maybe a decade. But he also has a degree. He can attempt to shift from player to staff, administration or some other area and continue to earn, albeit, not at the same level, but he could have a great nest egg by then.
He didn't hit the jackpot by NBA standards. But he's earning at an Senior Executive level in the corporate world, and most of us would consider ourselves pretty successful if --after years of climbing the corporate ladder --we had even one year of earning 400k.
@approxinfinity Hilarious! This platform has some serious google juice to get a thread like this elevated that you get a stream of traffic.
Fun with web metrics!
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Steven Pinker
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@wissoxfan83 Amen!
@wissoxfan83 said:
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RCJHKU is the best of them all!
Not sure how I missed that one. ADDED!
@JayHawkFanToo I agree with what you say-- I love Roy. I was hurt when he left, but that's because he was so heroic. It's easy to lose site of what he did-- forget the way things were when he came to Lawrence.... but the program was on eggshells in the summer of 88.
Yes we had the recently minted NC, (i'll add that to the glossary) but we were still considered a fringe power. Our status could be considered flukey, credited as much to Larry Brown as to the school.. A month or two after the parades, Larry was leaving and we were going on probation.
Roy came in and did not let the program miss a step despite the sanctions. He never missed the NCAA after that first year.
Those who remember the magical run when we beat Indiana and Arkansas to go to the FF with Mark Randle (91) and then a few years later (93). Young Roy was taking down the kings (Bob Knight and Dean Smith) with his tough-nosed teams.
He was a gem of a person and a gem of a coach. We really could not have asked/dreamed for a better scenario or a better 7th coach in our history.
@jayhawkbychoice I feel like a piece of the puzzle of life was just revealed to me.. Thank you! (adding to the buckets glossary)
@brooksmd Thanks much for the musical interlude. Awesome!
One more request-- someone mentioned LAS or something like that.. I thought it was LABs (Long, Athletic, Bigs) but I can't recall.. So please share that one if you remember it.
I have been to a ton of games, but none at AFH in the Bill Self era. I have got to get that done.
I used to go frequently in the late 70s (JR HS and HS) and then in college in the 80s. I'll never forget going to some of the December games in the 70s when the Field House was about 40% empty and you could go walk around the upper sections and pick your seat -- just not the wooden ones with backs.
Anyway, here's a little prediction. After the 60th anniversary, I predict a Home and Home with UNC. Roy and Bill will do it for the tradition. Anyone think that's utterly ludicrous? I know Roy's been on record saying he wouldn't want to play KU, but, you know those things sometimes don't hold true ;-)
Ok... so does MUA mean Major Under Achievers?? I honestly don't know...
@JayhawkRock78 Yes! Adding!
@JayhawkRock78 Thanks! I'm going to add TAD to the list above.
Please help me capture the meanings of the many acronyms that frequently used on the site.
This will be a bit like a 'decoder-ring' that allows the community to continue to express itself in the shorthand that is convenient, but provides a user-friendly source of answers for newcomers to the site.
- OAD = One and Done (player that declares for NBA draft after freshmen season)
- TAD = Two and Done (player that declares for NBA draft after sophomore season)
- HCBS = Head Coach Bill Self
- HCCW = Head Coach Charlie Weis
- MUA = Match Up Advantage
- PG = Point Guard
- SG = Shooting Guard
- SF = Small Forward
- PF = Power Forward
- C = Center
- HEM = @HighEliteMajor
- JB = @jaybate-1.0
- PHOF = Post Hall of Fame
- AFH = Allen Fieldhouse
- JNC = James Naismith Court
- NC = National Championship
- FF = Final Four
- 9999 = Satirical Disclaimer (for thread titles)
- RCJHKU = If you don't know, you don't belong here
- P5 = Power 5 conference (ACC, Big10, Big12, SEC, Pac12)
- DSC = Designated Shit-Canee (player who does not get developed and leaves)
- MBMAP = Mobile Big Man Attack Platform
- LAS = Long and Strong
The rotation that KU had in 2008 with RussRob and Sherron was what I was imagining for this year.. But it's a bit different. I see CF much more like Russ (capable of shooting and passing) and FM more like Sherron (driving to make contortionist-like layups and occasionally taking 3s).
Glad this was brought up because I was wondering the same thing today after reading the story about Traylor and how he has developed. I realized our best team might require three forwards on the floor.. none are centers.
Given that the PG dilemma is well understood, I wondered: What if we don't have a PG and a center? Could we be successful with a three forward-two guard lineup? Is there some mutated offensive configuration that could give us a unique advantage?
Coach Self may find it advantageous to improvise and innovate a bit given the distribution of talent.
I want to put a plug in for this thread that could offer some answers on where the offense will come from:
Next years stat lines using stat lines from old ESPN top 100 rankings
All credit to @Statmachine who crunched the numbers.
Projected stats according to the analysis (explained in the aforementioned thread):
- Cliff Alexander ........29.9mpg.......15.1 ppg.......9.6rpg
- Kelly Oubre ..............24.5mpg.........8.5 ppg.......3.6rpg
- Conner Frankamp 32.3mpg.......10.6 ppg.......5.8apg
- Wayne Selden ........31.0mpg.......14.1 ppg.......5.2rpg
- Perry Ellis ..................30.7mpg.......16.0 ppg.......9.3rpg
both are wise.. just don't knock glass houses..
@JayHawkFanToo If that happens, then fabulous! That's a much bigger pool of potential talent, so theoretically that sounds great. However, it's pretty clear that the overwhelming majority of high-quality basketball players in the world are germinating in the US. We'll see how it plays out...
He's done pretty well finding some international talent so far without having that position... so maybe this will amplify his ability to attract foreign stars.
Ha! I'll fav your note!
Yikes! I hit the wrong button and edited your note!!!
I will say, there is something about the interface that makes it too easy to do that.. but sheesh.. I really didn't notice until you called my attention to it!
Self and KU will get some exposure, but he's using only KU players. No opportunity to recruit players to the program with that role.
Coach K has been opportunistic with his role. I think any reasonable person would have to agree that his position as the head coach provides him unique opportunities and he has seized those.
I think the question is: has he crossed some line? Has he done anything unethical? Has he violated any rules or bylaws?
To my knowledge, he's been shrewd and that's about it.
Now Calipari is also shrewd and his comments backing up Coach K appear to be self-serving -- No doubt his name is in the mix as a possible successor, so his comments come off as defending the role so that he may enjoy the same benefits.
I would fork this thread to a new one, but I am not sure what I would call it! I guess it took the ontological turn with Jaybate's missive. It sure is entertaining though!
maybe I should simply call it "Kansas"
For a moment, I thought you were a family member because my dad had both the Marty Robbins and Johnny Horton albums-- and he was a Charley Pride fan.. and we had an 8-track player... Yikes!
But to my knowledge he was not a Ricky Skaggs fan.. so maybe our dads were just separated at birth.. ;-)
mmmmm... with that soundtrack, I can close my eyes, smell the pizza wafting up from the Pyramid.. and feel the sticky floor at my feet.... and I'm there!
Yea! Basketball season!!!
I think you are on to something pretty important here. Last year we seemed to rely on athleticism and the schemes were few and far between. I also observed that last season was by far our youngest team both on the bench and on the floor. Coincidence?
The new staff has been able to recruit, and the results of that effort is very visible. But less visible is their impact in the locker room, on the bench, etc. The staff is obviously vital to the success. We all know that extends beyond the assistants to Hudy, the film crew, and so on. But the Assistants are in a pivotal position. They can bring in fresh vision, fresh ideas and can influence the culture and chemistry of the team. Or not.
It will be interesting to see if Self is a developer of coaches as well as players. If so, he would be a true master. The richness of the plays may be a key indicator of both the staff and players' maturation. That is, the type of game we try to execute and not just whether we execute.
Just finally was able to read your post and it's a brilliant way to assess the team. (sorry about the formatting... let me know if you want me to take a crack at cleaning it up.)
If these guys perform the way the stats suggest, the starters will be scoring around 64-65 pts per game. We'll need some contributions from the bench and we'll need our defense to hold opponents to 70 or fewer most nights.
Excellent post!
Welcome to the discussions!
@Crimsonorblue22 Sad but true.