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wissox said:

I pick my teams out of home town loyalty. Sox are going to be strong in a very short time. Mark my words. To be honest, I'm a fair weather Bears fan. If they get good again I'll jump on the bandwagon for sure. But a decade of mismanagement has left me embittered.

I understand I just like having fun with you. -- My dad used to get so mad at my brother and I when we ere young. I grew up being a Green Bay fan for as long a I can remember my brother to maybe to a lesser degree, but my dad would always say you need to root for your home team and the more he said that the bigger fan of Green Bay I became lol - -same with the Royals - same thing I grew up liking the Yankees the more he said we should be cheering for the Royals - I would root for the Yankees.

So I can see why now - -you like the Bears -no wonder you can't stand the Packers, although my dis-taste for the Bears isn't as strong. I have a bigger did-liking for the Vikings and Lions - -can't stand Detroit, but it's all good in the end run - just like having fun and poking. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

wrwlumpy said:

@JayHawkFanToo

He's been MITCH SLAPPED!

I like that , hey you ever been Mitch Slapped lol? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

pretty interesting article, and a rather concerning thing or lack there of that can quite possibly be yet another way that can end up costing us if we don't make strides improvement and that's - - -Free Throw attempts. I knew we were not doing a good job but didn't realize it was as bad as what the article brought out.

The article starts out that there is a trend now that in the last 4 consecutive non con seasons where KU has dropped from the previous season.

In 13-14 Ku went from shooting 30.3 attempts per game in the first 12 games of the season to the next year to 25.4 attempts and then dropped to 23.2 attempts in 15-16 then to 21.8 in 16-17 as far as attempts in the first 12 games of the season.

Self said it's not so much that they have declined as to by how much they have declined this season. -- Ku at the present after the first 12 games of the season - - - are you ready? - -after the first 12 games of the season -KU is averaging 11.8 per game - -not for a half - -but for A GAME. - Self says that is 10 fewer then last season almost half the attempts as we attempted in 15-16.

Now put this in perspective. This year there was a 4 game stretch we KU attempted 34 free throws in a 4 game stretch - - -" 34 " - - -" 34 " - that is nuts. - -you put that in comparison to where KU attempted 34 free throw attempts in a SINGLE game 8 times during the previous 4 seasons - -again " 8 " different occasions where we shot that many in one game in the previous 4 seasons - - -huge drop of.

Coach Self reason is obvious and it would be easy to fix - -BUT the question is he said who do we have that can fix it? -The answer is drive the ball, he says Devonte does it some but other then that - -we don't have a Frank Mason or Josh Jackson, he said.

Coach states that in the Nebraska and Omaha game there was a TOTAL of 17 free throws - - -17 ! ! ! - -he there have been a lot of times in the past we shot that many in a half, and with the way they are trying to emphasize keeping your hands off the body they mention you would think it would be a bigger total for sure. Coach said when is the last time a KU team in two consecutive games shot a total of 17 free throws, - - In the dam Stanford game we shot a total of TEN - -TEN for the entire game. Now he said because of how we played the Stanford game it wasn't as bad - -BUT when the shot is not falling in a closely contested game - - like he says ummm.

Going into the Omaha game Malik - - -Malik had shot a total for the season -- 11 free throws - -11 fricken free throws on the year ! ! ! - - and he stated that Dok our big man the animal had ONE - -you hear that ? - - - -ONE - -ONE free throw in the LAST FIVE GAMES - - -ONE FREE THROW from your big. - -now to me that might be a blessing in disguise because of his % but I understand for sure what the Coach is saying, you get one free throw attempt from your post man in Five games - - Come on man that is beyond ridicilious . Now all of that is not Dok's fault for sure, it can be a combination of things, it can be part Dok's fault foe not working hard enough to establish, then it can also is partly the rest of the guys fault for not looking and trying to get Dok the ball inside when he does post up - we settle a lot for the jumper.

When it's all said and done there is going to come a time where our lack of free throw attempts in a game is going to cost us and it's going to cost us big unless we get it fixed. Let's just hope it's not down the line in the NCAA and the result costs us another early exit in the tourney - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

wrwlumpy said:

I re-watched the Kentucky game and Vitale said "The Big 12 is way-way down this year and KU will continue their phenominal wtreak of Consecutive conference wins." This was said very early in the season. Oklahoma had lost it's best player to injury last year and was still ahead of KU in the second half by 12 pts. until Frank took over. Anytime you have to face Huggins , Kruger, and Dixon, you better be prepared.

I've said it before and I'll say it again when the Big 12 got Jamie it really was a nice get for the Big 12 as a whole & a huge pick up for TCU - I have always thought he was a pretty good Coach and now it's starting to pay off for TCU. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

JayHawkFanToo said:

@whipperboy73

Sorry, I have not heard that for a while now. All the computer rankings have the Big 12 as the top conference and is not even close.

Hell every single time I'm watching almost any game they talk about it at one point or another - doesn't matter if it's a big 1 game they are broadcasting or not - -most of the time it's not - not really sure how you have missed it - -really prominent - every single time or really close they throw it in - -either half time report or during the game. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@wissox Ha, now I see why we have such disagreements. - -Your a fan of that farm team - -White Sox and Bears - man you have lead an abusive life - -I'm truly sorry lol.

Tell me I've been hearing a rumor that some day they said Chicago was going to have a PRO football team. - can you help me squash this is it rumor or ARE they seriously thinking about getting one lol. - - -HAPPY NEW YEAR my friend . - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

JayHawkFanToo said:

@HighEliteMajor

What @justanotherfan said and I would also add Marc Gasol, the Unibrow, Kevin Love,Jokic, Gobert and Karl Anthony-Towns right of the top of my head, although some are considered PF/C. I don’t disagree that Embiid is a very good player but before we anoint him as great we need to see more than 25 games.

Man how could I not know Gasol & Towns - - - I feel so , so, so - - I dunno - -just so lol - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Crimsonorblue22 said:

@REHawk Snyder!

LOL . - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

BeddieKU23 said:

@wissox

Could be a low scoring game unless we control the pace. We have to run Bamba off the lane, he's an elite eraser. The best shot blocker in the Big-12 since Withey by far

Read from the Texas site that Andrew Jones their leading scorer might be back for the game Friday.

I don't think we have to worry a lot about them trying to slow it down, I think they will want to try and run , quicker pace - just from what I've seen from them watching them this year they have a hard time shooting the ball, I think low 40's % wise

If Jones can't play I think the one's you have to watch for the most is not Bamba ( Offensively ) anyways he still pretty green in that area BUT on defense for sure he makes up for a lot. Offensively probably from what I've seen this year the other Big can't remember his name is pretty decent and then Roach , Roach loves to try and drive the ball and if he gets to the hole, he wants to tear the rim down - -can really jump.

I'm thinking we will probably end up winning this game somewhere like in the middle 80's - like 85 -78 somewhere in that range would be my prediction. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

HighEliteMajor said:

@JayHawkFanToo Since I'm an ignoramus when comes to the NBA, who are the better centers in the NBA compared to Embiid? Anthony Davis and who else?

Uh, no your not guy , don't feel alone that's for sure. I too don't really know either as I don't really follow that close myself. I just follow Jo, Jo and then also other KU players you know like Frank and such. - As far as a daily thing I just don't.

I hardly ever watch a game especially in the regular season , now come the playoffs I'll watch more - - it's just my personal feelings that's during the regular season seems to me they don't even try to play legit D - -I know that's probably not the case but that's just the way I've felt.

Again as far as far as the better Centers are - -hell I can't even tell you who any of the centers are little lone the better ones are, so don't feel alone lol - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

JayHawkFanToo said:

@whipperboy73

Who say the conference is down?

hearing a lot of the broadcasters talk during the game about how the Big 12 just doesn't look as strong this year and ya/da - -ya/da- -ya da - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

jaybate 1.0 said:

@whipperboy73

Was Joel matched with Kanter? If yes, then Joel doesn’t have enough defensive pride yet.

ya I think he was - -at least part of the time he was I know. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

BShark said:

Paper tiger per usual.

This post is sponsored by el poyo's fried chicken. It's finger lickin good.

lol - - lol -- -lol - -you quite the comedian tonight huh Boss keep them coming big boy we got pleny Mo where that came from roflmao - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

BShark said:

@whipperboy73 Heh, I'm fine. I just think it's way too hard to extrapolate anything based on the time Sosinski got against Sisters of the Poor U. He played 4 minutes. His PER is 57
(HOWLING as @jaybate-1-0 would say), his Ortg is 207 and his net BPM is 9.4. He might have a nose for the ball, he might not, we will see if he ever plays against real competition in real minutes.

Who Sosinski? - - - lmao - because you can take it to the bank De-Sousa will. - you think DeSousa came and enrolled early and is giving up half his freshman season to sit the bench? - - lmao, come on man I know your not that thick. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Well this is suppose to be a down year for the Big 12. - -Ku is just about every one's 'pick to take yet another conference championship. - - hmmmm , 102-16 in the non-conference

I really like what another poster had to say which was :+1:

I'd be curious to see what a conference looks like that's " up " this year since the Big 12 has 60 % of it's teams in the top 25 and 80 % receiving votes in a " down " year headed into conference. - -hell ya couldn't be said any better- -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

REHawk said:

4 losses and a tie for the title. None of us had best forget about TCU.

Agreed - -I've always like Jamie, and when I seen he was headed to the Big 12, got me excited thought ya this will upgrade their program for sure - -and it has. - - They are the only Big 12 team that ended the season with a win -- winning the NIT and haven't lost this year 15 game winning streak BUT think that's about ready to come to an end. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

BShark said:

Garbage minutes aren't the same as real minutes.

roflmfao - -whatever you say boss whatever you say lmao -- I'm not buttin heads - -your not dragging into that . - oh just one minor thing though how is a rebound of the ball any different from the tip of a game to the end - would seem to me the ball bounces off the rim - -off the board the same way - -BUT your right - don't mean to rock the boat - - don't ripple your waters just curious but I'M SURE YOUR RIGHT - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

BShark said:

Jayballer why you gotta go and change your name like that? :wink: @whipperboy73
Well you see, it seems in here I rile people, hurt their feelings, take things personal - -So a lot of times they want to come back at me and try to use me as a whippin post. - So I just thought " WELL JAYBALLER" - -it this is what it takes for people in here not to get their panties all twisted up in a knot I'll change my profile to make it appropriate and let them have a yee-haw time and whip away. roflmao - ain't changing anything though I'm still gonna come right back at them they wanna talk smack with me, not any name gonna change - -I'm coming right back at them - Oodles of fun - -it's a tough business but somebody got to rile people up - -no room in here for a bunch of powder puffs lmao. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

REHawk said:

@whipperboy73 That Okie kid is gonna swoop into Lawrence and first thing we know you're gonna be chompin' on an old bath towel like that colorful dude who used ta sit on the UNLV bench! Oops! But hang on a minute. Looks as though our first meeting that kid will transpire in Norman the eve of Tuesday, 23 January. Prior to that grand event, there's lotsa hours for you to shake off your nerves by overeating or dropping to yer knees to mumble some ave marias!
Whatever you best choose to do, PLEASE DO NOT JINX OUR JAYHAWKS! (Likely, we will need that win.)

LMAO, just remember to breath deep inhale - - -exhale - - -inhale - - - exhale - - inhale. - -everything gonna be all right. - -OH YE OF LITTLE FAITH, ol wise man once say - -man who has little faith - -wets himself to much, - -you don't wet yourself to much do ya?lol - ew gonna be ok - you got the win coming in Allen. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

BeddieKU23 said:

@whipperboy73

He asked a walk on in a blowout if he could play a few minutes. Big difference in asking him to play in a big 12 game that most likely wont be a blowout don't you think. Funny stuff as always

UMM, how much different is there in rebounding in a game with 20 minutes left - - 5 minutes left - -1 minute left- - you know how to rebound -- you know how to rebound. - how much difference is there to set a high screen and roll with twenty minutes left - or one minute left - -yes very funny stuff as always indeed lmao. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Changed profile name lol, decided seein as how I get people's feathers ruffled seems to be very easily -that proverbial burr I decided to change the name as people want to try and use as a whippin post lol - -ok - -go for it. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@wissox Shooting 56 % - -from the field - - -shooting 86 % from the line - - -shooting 50 % - -from the 3 pt line - -& lading the team in blocks with 20 - - -all while playing out of position - - just sayin - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

wrwlumpy said:

I wonder how Preston feels watching Sivio in practice today? If Silvio is the monster rebounder they say he is, let him play.

Don't let BeddieKU23 hear you say that - if Silvio can rebound I said you don't need to know offense to rebound - they said the Coach would roll in their grave - -Well wonder how funny it is when Coach Self said himself - -IF you can set a high screen and roll to the basket then fine - -and that is what Silvio could do for the time being - -some can't seem to let that sink in. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

BeddieKU23 said:

jayballer54 said:

@jayballer54 -You don't need to know the offense to be able to rebound and supply fouls to give & defend - & screen and roll really simple and De-Sousa. knows how to do that right now. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

any coach would roll in their grave reading that.

Roll baby roll - -that's not me sayin that - -that's Coach Self saying that plain and simple roll baby roll - -screen and roll - -screen and roll.

You think I'm the only one that said he would be fouls to give? - - Have you read any of the other comments with people saying the same? -mercy man please - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer54 -You don't need to know the offense to be able to rebound and supply fouls to give & defend - & screen and roll really simple and De-Sousa. knows how to do that right now. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

BeddieKU23 said:

@jayballer54

If Silvio can play Friday Self will play his walk-ons. He played the football player at the end of a blowout win, not exactly throwing him out there in the fire. Now Sosinski has had more time to learn what is required of him if need be. He'll play the guys that know what they are doing. That's not Silvio yet. We are in Big-12 play, Bill Self's baby. On the road defending our streak, yeah Self isn't about to throw guys out there for the sake of it.

In due time though. I'm hoping by February he's either our 2nd big or 3rd big in the rotation

Again this why like I said it's good to have a forum to voice opinions. - -IF I were a betting man - I would have to place that wager with you that De-Sousa would see action in a conference game before walk on's - but I spend my money more wisely. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

OK, soo how many losses takes the big 12 title this year? - - I see KU with 3-4 losses and taking the title

We lose @ Oklahoma - - - We lose @ West Virginia - - -We lose @ Iowa State ( Can't say that's concrete but it's Hilton ) & - -possibly @ Baylor -- just guesses - -I may have to think about possibly @ Texas Tech - - they have 5 seniors shpould be a good game there - think we will pull it out.

Soo what's your guess? - How many does the champ lose? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

BeddieKU23 said:

jayballer54 said:

BeddieKU23 said:

@jayballer54

I don't think anyone would care really if he left

Not so sure about that. - I thin there would be enough that would care IF he did leave.

I think we are going to regret ever signing him when we reflect on the season

Well see this is what I like about this room we can give our honest opinion, give our opinions Just so happens on this one we don't agree but that's ok. - -I see where you posted above that Coach would play his walk ons before De-Sousa . - I have just got to say I just think your totally wrong on that.

Like I stated somewhere back 3 practices whatever, Coach would do Silvio just like the football walk on if nothing else. - Coach ask our walk on the 1st game he played in - -are you ready for this? - -He replied I don't know any of it. - -Which Silvio wouldn't either BUT like the Coach told him - -that's ok - -just sit a high ball screen and roll to the basket.

De Sousa can do just the same , until he can start picking up the offense. - -Some people seem to feel we need Silvio to produce some un Godly offensive numbers. Now I am not saying you think that but there are those that do To the contrary, that's not a must from the get go with De Sousa. He is only going to basically get spot minutes for awhile anyways, giving Dok relief when foul trouble and such. He can like Coach said sit the high ball screen and roll to the basket score some - -get some garbage 2nd chance rebounds - -put backs, we have enough scoring where it is not a must for him to score huge. At least not right off the bat.

The bigger thing we need for him is on the defensive end Rebounding giving fouls and rebounding on the offensive end - he would be fine for a bit. Again it's ok to disagree right? - -Everybody has their own opinion and this just happens to be mine that's all - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jaybate-1.0 I have total confidence that I'm sure Coach will have something for Trae. - -He Is a hell of a player for sure. - - Again the key is fine let him get his points - the key is and I think we will is not to lets others go off for a career night against us.

For one I don't give a rats ass, no matter, wanting to see how he matches up against WV all over the court trap/press and Carter and Co - hows he handles the high pressure hostile - -I mean really loud vocal hostile crowds say like 120. - - something decibal loud - hmmm where that comes from

He has YET to face a true road game with a very vocal I guess if you want you could call Wichita State vocal -- -maybe only 10,000 and some - -but high intensity vocal true road conference games - just gonna wait and see how he handles. - -Some want to anoint him as the 2nd coming already - me? -I think I'll hold off a bit to break my bottle and Crissen him. - -I know people chomping at the bit to respond & wet them selves call me crazy- -you got your opinion - -I got mine , that's all it is an opinion. Let's play it out see how it turns out. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

BeddieKU23 said:

@jayballer54

I don't think anyone would care really if he left

Not so sure about that. - I thin there would be enough that would care IF he did leave.

@jaybate-1.0 but to be fair - -Kanter who was playing against Jo, Jo had a 30 point 20 rebound night also - so Jo, Jo not toying with all - BUT still a beast

Just a marvel to watch. - - Philly/Knicks. - -Jo Jo 25 points - - - 16 rebounds - -3 blocks. - -The Process has an attitude - -love it.

Thing is , I am really afraid poor ol Jo, Jo when it is all said and done - - I'm afraid his back is going to win out and force him out of the game. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@justanotherfan Ya, very true, good points. - -I really hadn't even thought about it actually until my buddy brought this up yesterday.

I for one , and know countless others just wish this would come to a conclusion hell even one way or another at this point. - Really no strong idea personally myself about if he came back or not - -probably so , but then again you don't wanna say never say never either in this crazy world. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Hmmm, had a friend ask me yesterday, brought up a scenario , ask me and possible point, now wonder. - -He says what happens if Billy went home over the Christmas break, gets in contact with Coach asks if they had heard anything at all - -Coach says no Billy - -no we haven't. - -Billy says then I'm done sit the whole 1st semester not getting to play , just decides to hire an agent and concentrate of preparing for the NBA instead of wasting time and getting nowhere with the NCAA. - -Wonder if he is back with the team? - - Wonder if De Sousa made it? - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@wrwlumpy Man those bring back some days. - -Remembering that pair of Robinson & Chalmers - - pretty good little guards. - -Then Julian Wright - wonder what happened to him. Anyone know? - - Texas had some talented players - -Augustine - Durant some classic games. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

HighEliteMajor said:

@jayballer54 You do realize that Self signs players as development/depth players? Not everyone he signs is assumed to be an immediate rotation player.

YEP - - But thanks for enlightening me. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

BShark said:

jayballer54 said:

@HighEliteMajor Actually. - - - -the blue blood chose him. - -Yep he chose Kansas, but also Kansas was the one that extended he Scholi offer so that works both ways. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Self couldn't make him sign though. The kid picked KU. He had other offers.

If Self didn't think he was talented enough for D-21 talent - -then there wouldn't of BEEN an offer for him to decide on, nobody forced Self to offer the kid. - - I think that's why Self is where he is at - and why we are where we are at.

I do think he might have just a little more knowledge about evaluating talent then you or I do - probably why he is the Coach. They didn't have to offer if they didn't think he would be beneficial in some form or another. - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@HighEliteMajor Actually. - - - -the blue blood chose him. - -Yep he chose Kansas, but also Kansas was the one that extended he Scholi offer so that works both ways. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

DoubleDD said:

You cats should be praising this kid You should be buying his jersey. Every time you post something about KU basketballs, it should include a shout out of love for old Mitch.

Thank You Mitch for deciding to be a Jayhawk. Thank you sir for giving your love, heart, body for the team I love so much. Thank you Mitch. Keep trying to hold down the fort until help arrives. I know I love you.

Mitch's love for the school - KU can never be challenged, he gives his all. - - He gives it his all when he is in. - -He is playing out of position, BUT yet he leads the team in blocks - -he dives to the floor - -a lot he TRIES wish that was the case with some of the others - -seems like their is some that take breaks - -takes the night off - -not connected.

Is Mitch super talented - - umm no, - Does Mitch have the physique to match up with other 5's - - umm no - well then what DOES Mitch have? - - Mitch has heart - Mitch tries, I would be willing to bet because of Mitch NOT being as talented - that he works twice as hard to try to help. - I've been just as guilty as some probably , the thing I have about Mitch is just he is forced to play out of position & he does not have the bulk to match up inside.

That's the reason I say with what is coming in next year would be a perfect time for Mitch to red shirt and dedicate the yr to Hudy. I think Mitch in his final two yrs will be very solid for us . - -I love Mitch, you sure can't fault his energy - -he tries so hard to do right. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

BShark said:

I'm convinced in Trae Young. Wish he was at KU.

Looks like to me actually we would of been his 3rd choice in the end run which I had seen earlier in the recruiting of him. - -He made the statement that early in his recruitment he really liked Kentucky, Trae said he thought he was going to go to Kentucky - but they wanted him to sign but he wasn't ready to sign. - - They went their way Trae went another.

So then after that it came down to KU and Oklahoma and well - - - we see how that worked out - -it's ok so in reality it would of went Kentucky - -Oklahoma and THEN KU - -so be it - -just like any other big time prize recruit - -just like Williamson same with Young - - If for some reason Williamson comes - -Great - if not - - Great - We were fine before Zion - -We will be fine after Zion - -Same with Trae --We were fine before Trae - -We will be fine after Trae - MERRY CHRISTMAS - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Lulufulu said:

@jayballer54 yah man, on the threat of upset scale for OU, I got them at a 5.5 of 10. Its pretty much just Trae and then everyone else. Lattin still there. He's good. Everyone else, ehhhh. Not enough to beat KU. That said, I'm psyched to see both games!!
Til anyone proves other wise, the Big 12 runs through Kansas!!
Rock Chalk!
Runs long - - runs deep - - not impressed with Mcneese - -Not impressed with Renik - -like you said - then the OTHERS - -ROCK CHALK

BShark said:

I'm convinced in Trae Young. Wish he was at KU.

Psssssssssssssssssssssssssst - - -guess what. - - -He is not lmao. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

approxinfinity said:

@jayballer54 you too buddy. Be safe and wish our burnt orange friends well for me, and whatever other exotic message boards you might wander to this holiday season. Merry Christmas!

LOL - - well do Captain. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Merry Christmas all my fellow Crimson & Blue, here wishing all a very Merry Christmas - - enjoy all the goodies, family friends, most of all wishing all a safe journey - you traveling - be safe and look out for the other guy - maybe you do good behind the wheel but them - -- Maybe not so much. - Need you here on the other side - to converse , debate , agree whatever - Jayhawk Nation needs you all ,so MERRY CHRISTMAS - and may father be with your, our lord , our savior. - -and oh ya - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Well I know I'm in the minority with Young, that's ok - -I don't care. We all have heard how he is the 2nd wonder, & hell ya really , really good -extremely good. I'm just not ready to sale the farm on him and Oklahoma being the team that breaks our streak of Conference championships

We have had our share of really good players/teams thinking THEY were going to be the one to end the streak , Trae thinks they will this year. Good for him , thats the way he should think , that's the way he better think , as a Coach I wouldn't want my player thinking any other way. I know several think that I'm missing 3 screws out of a 4 screw cover plate for thinking this with Trae, people say well Trae has a supporting cast , he makes them look better. - -Great Buddy had what I feel was a better supporting cast when he was there -they didn't take it from us, - people say well Buddy wasn't as good as Trae, quite possibly so, seems to me though is doing just fine thank you. His supporting cast was better.

Trae averages like 10.5 assists a game - -ungodly number. As a team they average 19 still not as good as assist average as KU as a team. That means amongst the remaining squad for Okla they only average 9 assists as a team. -KU'S - Devonte averages like 6.6 assists per game - -that means the rest of our squad is responsible for the remaining 14 a game - As a team were better sharing scoring the ball. Were better shooting the ball, KU is 4th in the Nation in Fg % - - -Okla is 18th - - KU is 3rd in the Nation in assists - - -Okla is 8th with Trae. - - KU is better in 3 pt % - -KU is 13th in the Nation - - Okla with Trae is 58th. - - Okla with Trae , turns the ball over more then KU. -- -I get it - - I get it - -I really , really , do. Trae is a stud - -no one denying that, I just feel as a team we still got this - -as a overall team - KU is the better team.

I have more concerns that IF we are to be dethroned this year it will be -- West Virginia , not Oklahoma. The Big 12 is going to be a blood bath for sure. Once again it's going to be all about protecting home court and stealing two three games on the road in conference. Who knows , maybe we have had our bad stretch earlier in the season this year instead of our typical March swoon. Gotta believe , with the addition of De Sousa and in the end which I think will happen - -Billy just got to help & help enough to brin another conference Championship.

Like the announcers said yesterday during the game going to be very very interesting how Trae holds up in the hostile enviroment of opposing Big 12 areana's - How Trae is going to hold up against that constant full court anytime anywhere pressure from West Virginia and Carter. - -Again I get it , just not ready to concede, and say Trae is taking over - he gonna face alot of big time quality players in the Big 12 and I just think we have face some prety dam good guards before - ( Tyler Ullis & De AAron Fox come to mind right off the top -we have turned away mny of really good teams that as teams we played and won. Na, I think I'll just stay put -- play it out, I'm good with who KU has - -we have better supporting players, as a team I'll take my five over Oklahoma's five 9-10 ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

REHawk said:

Will Vick, Newman, Preston and Dok hang around to play with these newcomers? If 3 of the 4 do return, O Boy!

Think you can almost take it to the bank that - - Vick & Preston will not be back/ If Vick continues to progress through out the year, just don't think he will be back. Preston, I mean ya will him sitting out so long this year - -he could come back but - -will he? - -seriously doubt it

Newman? - -there is no way at this point is he ready for the NBA, - -BUT doesn't mean he will be back here.. I think if nothing else - -he goes over sea's and plays and see in a couple of years about testing the NBA.

Thinking Dok - -who knows. A couple of weeks ago I would of leaned more of him coming back, NOW with the way he has played the last 3 games looks like he is trending upwards in his progress I know we will here from people - - well none of these guys are even on projected draft boards. Hide and watch - -before it's said and done Vick's name will be there, actually YES it is on some projected boards already, I haven't looked myself but others have said he was.

As you know, we have heard the NBA drafts a lot off potential also. With Dok's physical presence there are a lot of NBA that would take a chance if he continues to improve that will take that chance , if nothing else because of his physical stature and potential. Dok is probably the most interesting out of these four I think.

The thing is even in I guess perfect scenario if you wanna call it that, there is no way ALL 4 of these guys would/could return, there just is not enough room available on the roster with the guys we have coming in and what we have returning. Just got to believe and he has made mention about how many we could be possibly be losing after this year - -but you just got to believe this was in the pitch when Coach Self was on the recruiting trail this year to some kind of degree anyways, I'm sure he was asked even a little about his thoughts on returning players from this squad. You just got to think possible this was brought pup when the recruitment of McCormack & De Sousa - - If they thought Dok was coming back it could of very well discouraged them with signing - - with him coming back and the Lawson's the front court is going to be deep. -- Both Lawson's - -De Sousa - -McCormick -- Lightfoot. - -There is a chance for Dok - -not saying there is not for sure.

I just think almost sure bets is Newman & Preston for sure will not be back - & Vick not to far behind that - - Dok is probably the best shot of any of the four coming back I think - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

HighEliteMajor said:

@BeddieKU23 I just looked, Newman has only shot 11 free throws all season, and he is shooting 100% (11 for 11). Mason shot more than 11 free throws in a game at least 7 times last season.

This team as a whole is not getting to the line, I can't remember the stat now but has been mentioned several times which it should. I know that we are really low I think we are the lowest in the big 12 at free throw attempts.

HighEliteMajor said:

Initially, I think Garrett is really deferring on offense. He's a freshman, he's not shooting well from 3, and we have other scorers. So he should. His defense last night was really good. In the first half, he was on the floor for our run when we stretched the lead. I saw someone comment something to the effect of, what use is it to have a good defender when your team isn't good one defense -- meaning, why have Garrett on the floor. The defense part is critical. What I didn't see from Garrett last night was aggressive rebounding. There were a couple of times he kind of stood there without attacking the glass.

I will say that I thought Cunliffe looked pretty good defensively last night, as well. I would be interested if anyone else thought that.

I noticed Newman really blocking out; maybe a coaching point heading in.

What almost puzzles me most about Newman is that the guy does not attack the rim. He rarely shoots free throws. He's got a quick first step. Seems like he should look to attack the rim much more than he does.

We only shot 18 three pointers last night. Makes me wonder.

The Self-speak on Preston continues to be entertaining. He finds new ways to say the same thing, which is really nothing.

Then on Silvio SammyDeSosa (per @wissox), Self injects the word "appeal" in the equation last night, saying the plan would be he could be here on the 26th, and then references and "appeal."

Here's what was stated at kusports.com - Self said he continued to believe the final word about De Sousa's eligibility at Kansas would come Friday — “We think by tomorrow,” he said — before adding, “Unless there's some hiccup and then we may have to appeal something, but we feel by tomorrow.”

I agree with you about Sam's defense. Looks to me the times I've seen when he is on the floor he is a pretty good defender. Seems to have pretty good footwork - -slides his feet really well.

Just personal thinking, believe pretty safe bet Billy won't be on board for Texas so thinking maybe I'm thinking probably would be the week after Jan 6th might be his 1st game against Texas Tech , I just wish as I'm sure he does to that there could just be some closure and move on one way or the other. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

YA for sure, our dogs/pets do become just like family - spoil to a point. I had a little min-pin name of Shadow she was so cute,

Poor lil girl she jumped down off our couch and injured her spine and she lost the use of her back legs, she would just drag herself when she had to go do her chores we took her to the vet, he gave us some medication - she slowly recovered and I'll be dang if she didn't do it again.

Doctor came in the room - looked at her from across the room an said YEP back injury - -put her down, didn't even try. - We would allow them to do that She needed surgery unlike quite a few people - -hell maybe even here - -I'm just not in a position financially to have the surgery done.

So we checked around found a refuge - -a no kill center especially for min pins - - like a foster home , they would take care of her, look out after her an possibly someone would adopt them, - -she was a very lucky lil girl, a family adopted her could afford to have the surgery, she is good to go now. - Lives out in the country on a 5 acre place - has a little partner to play with, they built some stairs she goes up and down on - -sleeps with them - great care for her. - I'm so glad - I am still hurt that there wasn't anything WE could do to keep her, but at least she wasn't but down

Miss her terribly, sorry I got carried away about my little buddy This is about someone's little partner sorry. - - Anyways bottom line I'm so sorry for the loss of your lil buddy. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY