Love these guys. question did anybody think Braun would do this well at a P-5 ? - -pretty dam solid kid can stroke the ball. Typical case maybe of being overlooked by people - -Bill found another hidden Jem ? - -what was his ranking anyways?
@BShark said in WhiskeyVU Game Thread:
@BeddieKU23 said in WhiskeyVU Game Thread:
This was a coached up win. The 3s were a bonus to this team getting 3 days of practice to lock in
Got a glimpse of the offense tonight. Do think we will have to lean on threes this year.
looks that way bud - -hopefully we can maintain decent pct
@Crimsonorblue22 said in WhiskeyVU Game Thread:
I like announcers that just do bb
Would like to find some that do that , Anybody but Walton lol
@approxinfinity said in WhiskeyVU Game Thread:
Wave the cardboard!
Lol I could of swore I saw the cut outs waving the wheat lmao. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Wonder if Coach still think 3 pt shoot still fools gold lol
@Marco said in WhiskeyVU Game Thread:
Merry Christmas everyone! Be safe.
Merry Christmas Bud stay safe we need to see you on the other side. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@nwhawkfan said in WhiskeyVU Game Thread:
Everybody have a happy and safe holiday break !
Glad to be done with 2020 !
Merry Christmas - be safe & stay Healthy my friend
David 10 points - - 11 rebounds 3 assists - -& 2 blocks - -can we get a HELL YA
@DanR said in WhiskeyVU Game Thread:
Rock chalk and have a merry one, everyone!
Rock Chalk buddy. -- Merry Christmas
@nwhawkfan said in WhiskeyVU Game Thread:
@DanR said in WhiskeyVU Game Thread:
Rock chalk and have a merry one, everyone!
Backatcha ! Merry Christmas !
Merry Christmas my friend - stay healthy - - stay safe
@tundrahok said in WhiskeyVU Game Thread:
Dave and Ochai both got a double-double.
Dave came up big tonight. I can work/take that. Don't need much more then that. -- Stood tall against WV Big's
got to say hard to find a lot to bitch about tonight. - -Oh sure there were a few , but overall really solid tonight and I mean EVERYBODY. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@BeddieKU23 said in WhiskeyVU Game Thread:
Without 22 from McNeil. Wow wvu sucks
SUCKS - - and he has had a career night. - -Normally not nearly as good at his 3 point shooting is tonight and were STILL up 20
David McCormack sighting tonight - -Really good game
got to close this out but I'm telling you overall this is the best I've seen us play this year. Big thing for me is how we are holding our own on the boards. - -Bet Huggy will be in their ass after this game. - -keeping up on the boards and surprised their bigs point wise has been really quiet
Ok got to turn it up now
One train of though on this - - with McNeil shooting the way he has this 1st half and only down 1 - - got to feel ok - -there is no way that can continue the entire 2nd half - Coach will be on somebody's ass, not sure who has him on the defensive end but they better strap it up
@approxinfinity said in WhiskeyVU Game Thread:
@jayballer67 said in WhiskeyVU Game Thread:
@BShark said in WhiskeyVU Game Thread:
Might want to have someone guard the white guy for WVU
lol white guys not suppose to be able to shoot like that lol
I think you got your racial stereotypes crossed. "white men can't jump"
well new era -- now can't shoot lmao - -cause I said so lmao
@BShark said in WhiskeyVU Game Thread:
Might want to have someone guard the white guy for WVU
lol white guys not suppose to be able to shoot like that lol
who the hell is suppose to be guarding McNeil ? 20 points in the 1st half - - -come on
@Marco said in West Virginia University Mountaineers - Tuesday - 8pm - ESPN2:
@jayballer67 I was joking you.
gotcha lol - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@BShark Like I've heard people saying , and on the local sports cast - - -PLEASE bring Tshiebwe out to defend on the outside on Wilson or anybody really - - -PLEASE
@Bosthawk said in Players eligible for next season:
Under this rule, Can Garrett come back ?
yes he could come back if he wants or him and Coach agree Just like Mitch can come back - -I don't think Marcus will but you never now how it will workout
@Kcmatt7 said in West Virginia University Mountaineers - Tuesday - 8pm - ESPN2:
I hate these games. Hate their style.
They don’t speed you up, they just foul the shit out if you for 40 minutes and hope the refs are cowards and refuse to call fouls.
My least favorite game of the year every year
Ugly ball thugs
So would like to know , what you think your predictions - -do you have WV OR KU? trying to use logic not your heart.
This is not my heart BUT I DO think it will be very tough but think myself KU gonna pull this out - -I'll say some where like 70-67 take care of the ball try to compete stay close on the boards. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@Kcmatt7 said in West Virginia University Mountaineers - Tuesday - 8pm - ESPN2:
If we can get a rebound on defense we will win.
If they get two shots every time down the floor we won’t.
I could definitely see that zone come back out.
Dave needs to play not bad today.
I found it kind of hard to believe BUT we ( KU ) is rebounding the ball better then WV 43.3 to 40.0 - -if we can stay close on the boars see how this plays out. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
WV fans have been going at this since almost last weekend saying : - Well we going to lose this were playing at their place. - The refs will have both our big's with 3 fouls by the 1st TV timeout- - - -typical game against these cheaters at their place. - We should win this game cause we are clearly the better team but the refs will see to it that we lose. YaDa , YaDa . YaDa - -can someone PLEASE give these fricken cry babies a tissue and give them a HUGE sit the F - - - down an shut the hell up lol. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@approxinfinity said in Emperor Of Basketball Game Thread:
@jayballer67 I appreciate the positives you're spelling out with Marcus. My question is this: is it possible to have Marcus and Dave on the floor while telling the team that Jalen, Ochai and Braun are the primary options? I think def in Marcus case I want him on the floor if he is off ball and more a facilitator on offense. In Dave's case, he's not a good defender but he's still better on that side than O. Does anyone have an insider perspective on this other than what we seem to be observing with the offensive shot selection? And regarding how Marcus is bringing up ball when on the floor with Harris. It seems Self is letting the team decide who brings up ball and who shoots, a lot.
very true I would love to have Marcus play - -OFF the ball, but I just don't think this year that can/will happen very often, not sure why. - Let Harris take the point - let Marcus be HIS back up on the point. - nothing wrong with have t2 ball handlers on the floor but I just think Marcus is pressing playing point. - -Just does to many other things to reduce his minutes though - -just not sure what the answer is
@approxinfinity said in Coach Cal asks Cam'Ron Fletcher to "step aside.":
@jayballer67 it's time for him to take over the Knicks.
Mercy Mercy , just checked their boards again - -hoy crap looks like there is about to be a lynching. - -read an article about how their problems they are having runs really deep.. Cal in a power struggle with multiple other key players. - -talks about time for Cal to go , how Cal brought this on himself - how Cal thinks he is bigger then the program ,
People talking about how they are through with the one and done BS, talk about how this is a stain against this prestigious program ( sorry but I think it is dam funny ) - things catching up. - -Talk of Clark - - Boston - -fletcher - - -Allen -Sarr all or some leaving/transferring - -Sar can't transfer can he? - isn't he a Senior ? - -maybe not- - -stay tune my friends lol
@Marco said in Emperor Of Basketball Game Thread:
@BShark said in Emperor Of Basketball Game Thread:
Garrett unfortunately will never lose minutes. I like Garrett but him getting closer to 28 minutes a game would be better for him and the team.
More like about 23 a game, if not 20. He doesn't score, and this team needs points. Harris doesn't score either, but he atleast helps others do so. It seems that this season Garrett is too worried about getting off his own shots, and it is hurting his game and the team.
Well Marco buddy had to check on Marcus. Going off the team Stats: - You say Marcus just looks for his shot to much , worried about getting his own shot - -that's not really true, out of the starting 5 players - -he has shot the least of any. Then you say he doesn't score - well - - he is averaging 9.0 a game in reality we shouldn't really need to have him score a lot more then that, that's why we have Wilson -- Braun- - - Oachi & others for. Marcus job in reality is to run the team, which by the way Marcus has the best Asst/ To ratio on the team. Marcus has 31 assists & only 10 turnovers through 8 game - again 31-10 not to shabby. - breaks down to a 3to 1 ratio.
Marcus as a point guard is averaging 5.1 rebounds a game for a PG- - 5.1 pretty solid if you ask me. - he is the teams leading free throw shooter - dude is shooting free throws at a 86.4 % way up really really improved in that that's dam good %Coach obviously feels he is to important to take off the floor as he has the most floor minutes then anybody. - -He is leading the teams in Steals , Marcus just does so many thing Multi purpose that's a lot of responsibility things to manage , so end result I think I have to disagree just a little- -I'm fine with Marcus on the floor.
Now could he do more? - -I'm sure he could yes he is struggling some - just like some others are struggling, his biggest problem i see right now at this minute is he is struggling when he drives the ball kind of forcing other then that as things point out - - hard to argue, it's all good though you still my bud lol - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@Marco said in West Virginia University Mountaineers - Tuesday - 8pm - ESPN2:
@jayballer67 so, you put your money on WV huh?
not quite sure where you got that at, BUT it wouldn't shock me if they did. wouldn't shock me if we won. - If WV did it wouldn't be like WOW didn't see that coming.
Ku has a lot of work to do , this is not one of Coach's better shooting teams he has had in the past. We have tendencies of going through stretch's of turning the ball over , a lot of un-forced at that , we have extended periods of scoring droughts - so plenty reason there where I could see WV winning. Won't have our normal home Court advantage WV has 2 big boys that COULD and I say again COULD just have a field day against us inside. - -Now WILL that happen ? who knows - -could happen , maybe not
But it's not like we have no chance either just like us WV has their share of problems too. - They still have scoring droughts , don't think they have seen defensive pressure like we CAN bring , they too having problems shooting just like previous years for them at times - -their a little beter, Two key outside players we have to control - -Matthews & McBride , just more worried about their interior could be a rough night. - -Still think if we work hard and bring it - I still like our chances in the phog. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@Woodrow said in Coach Cal asks Cam'Ron Fletcher to "step aside.":
This could be a all time epic meltdown by UK and Cal. Luckily they play in the SEC that only has two decent teams ( one being Mizzou) so if they keep their sh*t halfway together they should win some games, but I honestly don’t think they make the tournament.
I doubt this will affect recruiting but Kyle Tucker of the Athletic reported yesterday that there is a “power struggle” going on between Cal and the players. That’s not great... wonder if some players will just flat out quit...
Some of the Kentucky fans have said Cal has lost control of the team. - -Some of them have said they are so sick of these one and done's. Many and i mean a lot are ready for the NEXT coach
OK guys , sit back and absorb these numbers for a minute. - You have to go back WAY BACK since the last time KU lost a league opener. It has been 10,938 days since KU lost in a league opener Jan 8 , 1991 - -right at THIRTY YEARS since we lost a league opener. Jan 8 , 1991 was the last time against Oklahoma , those numbers are insane.
Even more crazy during that time, the most impressive part is that during that span 60 % of those wins came on the road AND 33 % against ranked teams during that span.
The ranked teams we beat during this 30 year span : - -# 13 Missouri , # 17 Missouri , # 24 TCU , # 9 Oklahoma State , # 23 K-state , # 21 Baylor , # 23 Baylor , # 23 Oklahoma , # 16 West Virginia , & # 14 Texas Tech - -Stop and think about that for awhile. - -don't think ANYONE else in Americas cna come close to those numbers. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@drgnslayr said in West Virginia University Mountaineers - Tuesday - 8pm - ESPN2:
I think a lot of it will depend on how the game is called. I expect WV to play physical. This is were guys like Lightfoot and Harris can draw lots of charges. Look how are game flipped with TT... and suddenly they were getting all the offensive boards and TT is small. We need to hold our own on position. This will be a good test and we should come out of this game with an education. Just glad we aren't facing a packed house in Morgantown!
well by the time w play them in Morgantown - -who knows what they will allow there - -gonna be another real test for sure
@BeddieKU23 said in Non-KU Games Thread:
That kid is as good as gone.
I think so - - maybe not such a bad thing for him
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Non-KU Games Thread:
How bad of a team cancer has Fletcher been for Cal to publicly throw him under the bus. Say what you want about Cal, but he's not someone that has the reputation of throwing his players under the unlike some other coaches we know. Because of that history, Fletcher has to have done a bunch of really dumb/bad stuff for Cal to throw him under the bus.
from what I was reading after their last game Fletcher made some kind of statement. - -Haven't seen what he said or anything but must have been pretty bad , he went on twitter and apologized to the Big Blue Nation saying he was sorry. - -He played two minutes in the game , not sure if he was upset about playing time or what , may have made negative statement about other players or what.
They said he was visably upset towards the end of the game. Cal asked him to step away , not leave or anything although I think in the end he will probably transfer out - I am not sure how long he is to be away from the team , will be interesting to see how it plays out
OK guys I bleed crimson & Blue BUT they have us ranked 3rd in the Nation today , I'm sorry to say we are not the 3rd best team in the nation - at least not right now - - can't quite figure why.
The Big 12 has 4 teams ranked in the top 10 - -5 in the top 15. - - -( Baylor ) 2nd- - - ( KU ) 3rd -- ( WV ) 7th - - ( Texas 10th ) - -& ( Texas Tech 15th ) - -tough league
boy these games and scheduling for this year has been crazy , I'm guessing because of the COVID. - -K-State playing today at 1 against Jacksonville - - ESPN PLUS
@tis4tim said in Emperor Of Basketball Game Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Emperor Of Basketball Game Thread:
Again sorry didn’t mean to imply anything about you. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
No worries, @jayballer67 . I wasn't sure if your comment was in response to mine, so I may have jumped the gun there. All good. I agree Garrett has earned Bill's trust. But, there's no denying there may be some situational moments in games where having him in may not be the best option. I think that's where the advanced metrics help - putting guys in the best positions based on the situation.
BTW, perhaps I missed the update, but I think you mentioned your wife was getting a test of some sort a few weeks back and you were going to have to wait for the results. Hope everything turned out okay.
oh ya nothing huge - -big enough but - - it is MRI on her leg probably having to have surgery thanks for asking. she went through theraphy now just had the MRI going in to talk with the specialist on the 29th. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@BShark said in Non-KU Games Thread:
Calipari's rotation this year
Center that averaged 13/9 in the ACC, two top 10 guards, 4 PG, 2 top 30 post recruits off the bench, 5th year SR PG...various other 4s on the bench.
Self's rotation this year
Fancy Walk-on, JUCO, unranked wing (best player too), ex MO STATE commit, 3* white boy from OP, Jalen, a PG that can't shoot, Dave and Bryce.
One coach is 7-1 the other is 1-5.
Hmmm go figure lol, things getting pretty toasty thee too. Love reading their board , they looking who could be the next Coach. - How Cal has lost control of this team yada , yada, yada ho hmm lol
@drgnslayr said in West Virginia University Mountaineers - Tuesday - 8pm - ESPN2:
I think WVU is our toughest match up all year. We better have eaten our Wheaties because this will be a game for men. Huggy Bear did a great job of reloading!
THEY have their obvious advantages , but then you can turn that around and say so do we. - -I'll take my chances with them brining their big's out to defend us in open space. In their game the other night was brought up they are not really big in the shot blocking area like their last big guy was - -their strength is in the rebounding - got to break even in that area not get demolished on the boards.
Iowa State stayed with them on the boards pretty much - -played them well in WV only losing by 5. They still have some problems of shooting from the outside at times can go stale, - they shoot some better then in previous years but still far from great unless they just happen to have one of those nights. Yet as a hole their outside game doesn't scare me. McBride pretty decent , their big men scare me more then any - we shall see. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@tis4tim said in Emperor Of Basketball Game Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Emperor Of Basketball Game Thread:
It’s crazy how people still wanna keep bagging on Garretts playing
I'm certainly not bagging on Garrett. Bill loves defense and Garrett will get run on that alone. And we know Bill is stubborn with his hi/low thing and McCormack will get his. But, I think is was @BShark who posted the other day about how good the team was down the stretch with Garrett on the bench. Not reading tea leaves from that, but was an interesting observation and bears watching. There are only so many minutes to go around and if one guy earns more PT, someone will lose some accordingly. Was just speculating on who that would be based on some of the stats and comments I've read on this board.
At some level modern basketball requires paying attention to advanced metrics and if trends are spotted it would be foolishness not to make adjustments based on the evidence.
na wasn't really trying to come across that you were sorry about that. But there are people here that do and other sites to. Thing is there more to the game then just scoring- it is very multi faucted /multiple aspects.
Like you said elite on defense - if he wasn't our not just going to get that award handed to you - you earn it. I think he is looking not as good this year cause he has taken on a different role and has struggled to a degree , never has been that good of shooter , although his three point shot is better- -not saying great but better. His FT % his went way up i think mentioned he was like 67 %- this year shooting over 80 % - does a good job rebounding the ball for a guard and then of course he just gonna strip you blind - -we have all seen that at work. For me you just can't diminish minutes much from a kid such as him to vital - - Senior leadership/experie4nce have to have those things
Again sorry didn't mean to imply anything about you. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@tis4tim said in Emperor Of Basketball Game Thread:
@BeddieKU23 said in Emperor Of Basketball Game Thread:
He’s struggled for sure and the lack of consistent minutes hasn’t helped him. He needs that one game where he plays well so he gets more PT and maybe some good will with Self. If he locked in defensively that’s his way to getting time.
This was in reference to Enaruna. My question is: let's say he gets out of the doghouse and earns more PT. Who loses minutes? McCormack? Garrett?
Enaruna never gonna take minutes from Garrett - -It's crazy how people still wanna keep bagging on Garretts playing - -last year it was his shooting, this year because him taking over the PG spot, this guy is to valuable to be trying to take minutes off. - - Nobody on the team can come close to defending the opponent as Garrett , last game against Tech I believe was just another aspect of the things he can do other then having to Score Think he had 10 rebounds so many phases to the game. - -This year taking over a new role of pg which he struggles with up to this point , but still looks like Coach feels like there isn't anyone else that's Capable of taking that spot at the present time. - Harris maybe down the road but not Starting - but Enaruna won't be taking any minutes from Garrett he has to many problems of his own and has a long ways to go to get those corrected
@BShark said in Non-KU Games Thread:
@jayballer67 yeah, he left Kentucky for Arizona and is now playing much better.
Cool. - - so he would be Grad then huh ?
@BShark said in 2022 Recruiting Thread:
Sounds like he plans to be here for awhile. "That's the next four years of my life".
OH BShark buddy/Dude - what an awesome post thread from ya buddy. I REALLY appreciate that. makes me appreciate you and the things you share that much more.
Here is my take from that. 1st I usually form an opinion pretty quick and once it's formed hard to change. The 1st thing I take from this is - -loves his family , seems like very level headed kid Seems like the whole family is just a very caring loving family
Hard work ethic , works hard loved the section of his work outs dedicated to getting better - di ya all catch the part about running steps up and down the 25 stories ? - holy jumpin -- gee - - hossie - - fats . a kid like that always wanting to work hard make something for his future - -coming out or from surrounding Harlem -just loved the whole video he put together - -very well done
Ol Coach saying he was on pins & Needles lol - -dam loved this video , might watch again lol again love his work ethic from what I saw - -not a lot of this flashy hi-lite reel where it's just a dunk fest - more down to earth family/working out/ his culture/growing up things like that - - - AND he is now a Jayhawk - - best part.
Now here is the thing call me stupid whatever but another of my 1st takes on this - you know who Kyle kind of reminds me of personality wise lighting up the room Smiling and such ? - - just my take - -kind of reminds me a little of Devonte Graham sure do , - -oh ya I think I'm gonna love this guy- - Gonna love him a lot gonna be a baller - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY - -Thanks again BShark
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2022 Recruiting Thread:
Really need him in 21.
I saw where he said he really wasn't thinking about re-classifying right now just wanted to get this announcement out of the way so he could concentrate on the Season , from things I'm seeing and hearing RIGHT NOW anyways sounds more like he is staying in 2022,
If that is true hate to hear that , that's a long time for a kid to make a verbal - lots of things can happen between now and then exp - - Ku gets hit hard for this NCAA crap - can change a kids mind real easy , seen that happen way to many times - -School is ban from a post Season or whatever they want that exposure - what better exposure then the Tourney - -Big Time Stage- -- sure hopin -he comes early
@BShark said in Non-KU Games Thread:
Freed from the shackles of Calipari: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jemarl-bakerjr-1.html ↗
guessing a transfer? - - Grad transfer ?- has to be right with Arizona/Kentucky both right ?
Has anybody heard anything on Cuffe ?
So is there anyone gonna play with Gonzaga ? - -They just make it look so easy. - I would love to see Baylor and them be able to get after it. - Although honestly I think Gonzaga takes Baylor.
I know this is going to sound crazy , and may sound Bias but I think we have played them just about as well as anybody 12 points, very true it was the 1st game of the year but I would think for fun maybe get another chance. - could be a lot worse - - OR could be closer -they look really good/smooth - -Suggs is crazy good
@Woodrow said in 2021 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
I think we have a good shot at Hawley. KU has been on him the longest and probably wants him more than any school.
KU is his only P5 offer so at this point it would be a surprise if they didn’t get him. Personally I’d rather them find someone in the portal that can play 2-4 years.
Hawley will be able to play that - - -he has great size throws the deep ball pretty decent stands 6'6 can run some - -I think he would be a good adition